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(Syfy)   Where does the term "blade runner" come from anyway?   ( syfy.com) divider line
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2017-10-04 07:20:47 PM  
Christ! How geek am I that I knew all of that before reading TFA?
 
2017-10-04 07:23:09 PM  
I recall reading Blade Runner one summer in my grandmother's basement.
 
2017-10-04 07:29:02 PM  
And all this time I thought it was just because he say you brade runner.
 
2017-10-04 08:01:34 PM  
William S Burroughs also was responsible for the naming of the band "Steely Dan"
Which was the nick name of a steam powered dildo in the novel "The Naked Lunch"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steely_Dan
 
2017-10-04 08:24:26 PM  

Wanebo: Christ! How geek am I that I knew all of that before reading TFA?


...and that's why SyFy is trying to appropriate SF fandom, after having given up on destroying SF by inventing what I like to call "BroSF". SyFy's losing viewers to streaming channels and to folks like the BBC, so they're trying something new - actually showing old SF & pushing their SF fandom efforts hard.

Fark SyFy. Fark NBCUniversal.
 
2017-10-04 10:49:54 PM  
An incredibly overrated movie from 1982?
 
2017-10-05 12:59:03 AM  
You know those stupid kids in kindergarten the teacher yelled at to stop running with scissors?

These guys are more hardcore.
 
2017-10-05 01:16:01 AM  
I'm man enough to admit I didn't know that prior to reading TFA.

And geek enough that I was glad to learn it.
 
2017-10-05 01:28:33 AM  
That was actually cool
 
2017-10-05 01:33:06 AM  

FormlessOne: Wanebo: Christ! How geek am I that I knew all of that before reading TFA?

...and that's why SyFy is trying to appropriate SF fandom, after having given up on destroying SF by inventing what I like to call "BroSF". SyFy's losing viewers to streaming channels and to folks like the BBC, so they're trying something new - actually showing old SF & pushing their SF fandom efforts hard.

Fark SyFy. Fark NBCUniversal.


You know SyFy has actually been showing some good sci-fi lately, right? The Expanse and 12 Monkeys have both been really great series. Add in the The Magicians, which has been solid fantasy adaptation, and they seem to be getting back on track.

Sure, The Magicians technically shouldn't be on a channel called SyFy, but the genres are spiritual brothers with authors like GRRM ans Pratchett jumping back and forth between the genres that I'm not going to get too pedantic about it.
 
2017-10-05 01:35:49 AM  
Wait, I thought Deckard was a replicant (since he dreamed of the unicorn), so how's he still alive in the future? I see there are a bunch of articles on this on the googles, but I guess I'll just let the movie tell me. Except I'll have to wait to rent it because last weekend we went to see It and farking aholes were talking through the entire thing and cell phones were everywhere and we vowed never to go to the theater again. Plus we got a sweet La-Z-Boy sofa with power recliners and lumbar support. Cool story bro!
 
2017-10-05 01:39:27 AM  
I'm almost positive this is a repeat from another source, but damned if I can find it.


Mad_Radhu: FormlessOne: Wanebo: Christ! How geek am I that I knew all of that before reading TFA?

...and that's why SyFy is trying to appropriate SF fandom, after having given up on destroying SF by inventing what I like to call "BroSF". SyFy's losing viewers to streaming channels and to folks like the BBC, so they're trying something new - actually showing old SF & pushing their SF fandom efforts hard.

Fark SyFy. Fark NBCUniversal.

You know SyFy has actually been showing some good sci-fi lately, right? The Expanse and 12 Monkeys have both been really great series. Add in the The Magicians, which has been solid fantasy adaptation, and they seem to be getting back on track.

Sure, The Magicians technically shouldn't be on a channel called SyFy, but the genres are spiritual brothers with authors like GRRM ans Pratchett jumping back and forth between the genres that I'm not going to get too pedantic about it.


I'm still bummed they canceled Dark Matter. I would have prefered two more seasons of that over Killjoys. Though I enjoy that one, too.
 
2017-10-05 01:50:57 AM  

gaslight: I recall reading Blade Runner one summer in my grandmother's basement.


as a ute i used to hide in our basement and read. it was a double headed escape from the biatching, moaning and yelling of my parents upstairs.
 
2017-10-05 02:14:30 AM  

spamdog: That was actually cool


Yeah, good read.

Thanks subs.
 
2017-10-05 02:14:54 AM  

optikeye: William S Burroughs also was responsible for the naming of the band "Steely Dan"
Which was the nick name of a steam powered dildo in the novel "The Naked Lunch"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steely_Dan


And two other groups, The Soft Machine and Insect Trust. And he kinda got the term "heavy metal" out there.
 
2017-10-05 02:20:28 AM  

John Buck 41: An incredibly overrated movie from 1982?


Thanks. We weren't sure about your opinion on BR. Just make sure you say it again in the next thread.

/ and the next
// say something once
/// why say it again?
 
2017-10-05 02:22:29 AM  

All Intensive Purposes: Wait, I thought Deckard was a replicant


Can we please not go there, just this once?
 
2017-10-05 02:49:25 AM  
Lol, back when I read "The Blade Runner" I wondered why the movie had scrubbed the entire plot. I couldn't even conceive of someone straight jacking the title from another scifi story.

/Now I know it's a homage.
 
2017-10-05 03:00:22 AM  
Screw SyFy. They never enable subtitles, and I cannot lip-read.

Why do they hate deaf people?
 
2017-10-05 03:07:46 AM  

Mad_Radhu: FormlessOne: Wanebo: Christ! How geek am I that I knew all of that before reading TFA?

...and that's why SyFy is trying to appropriate SF fandom, after having given up on destroying SF by inventing what I like to call "BroSF". SyFy's losing viewers to streaming channels and to folks like the BBC, so they're trying something new - actually showing old SF & pushing their SF fandom efforts hard.

Fark SyFy. Fark NBCUniversal.

You know SyFy has actually been showing some good sci-fi lately, right? The Expanse and 12 Monkeys have both been really great series. Add in the The Magicians, which has been solid fantasy adaptation, and they seem to be getting back on track.

Sure, The Magicians technically shouldn't be on a channel called SyFy, but the genres are spiritual brothers with authors like GRRM ans Pratchett jumping back and forth between the genres that I'm not going to get too pedantic about it.


I will admit, being on Syfy was a strike against The Expanse for me at first, so I put off watching it for a while. And I didn't totally love the first two episodes, but around the third and fourth one I was hooked. If anyone is still leery of watching it because it's on the syfy channel give it a try, and watch the first 3 episodes with the knowledge it takes some time to gel character-wise and plot wise.

Anyway. FTFA: "Nourse, a doctor who wrote sci-fi novels on the side, imagined a dystopian future America where healthcare is regulated to the point that sick people are sterilized if they want to get care, because the government's belief is that if they're sick they shouldn't be allowed to reproduce."

Dude. NOBODY tell Republicans about this, I'm serious. Let's not give them any more ideas.
 
2017-10-05 03:30:55 AM  

luckyeddie: Screw SyFy. They never enable subtitles, and I cannot lip-read.

Why do they hate deaf people?


I don't think they "hate" the hearing impaired, they just don't listen to your concerns.
 
2017-10-05 03:33:53 AM  
I had my own theory. Deckard's replicant chasing was akin to running on the edge of the knife. You had to tread lightly else you'd get hurt, and you couldn't tell which side he'd fall on (human/replicant) when it came time to stop.

/stupid
 
2017-10-05 04:17:02 AM  

668NeighborOfTheBeast: luckyeddie: Screw SyFy. They never enable subtitles, and I cannot lip-read.

Why do they hate deaf people?

I don't think they "hate" the hearing impaired, they just don't listen to your concerns.


Deafness has largely been eliminated in the future, so it just doesn't occur to them.
 
2017-10-05 04:29:42 AM  
I heard the new movie is AIDS Runner though
 
2017-10-05 04:59:16 AM  

sinko swimo: gaslight: I recall reading Blade Runner one summer in my grandmother's basement.

as a ute i used to hide in our basement and read. it was a double headed escape from the biatching, moaning and yelling of my parents upstairs.


img.fark.net
 
2017-10-05 06:03:32 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Sure, The Magicians technically shouldn't be on a channel called SyFy,


They changed the name to SyFy from Sci-Fi specifically to address that issue, so they could expand to areas that aren't quite science fiction.
 
2017-10-05 06:03:47 AM  

fusillade762: would have prefered two more seasons of that over Killjoys.


Killjoys is better, that's why
 
2017-10-05 06:11:22 AM  

ReaverZ: fusillade762: would have prefered two more seasons of that over Killjoys.

Killjoys is better, that's why


Hell, yes. Still not impressed that they
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killed Pawter.
 
2017-10-05 06:25:19 AM  

fusillade762: I'm almost positive this is a repeat from another source, but damned if I can find it.


Mad_Radhu: FormlessOne: Wanebo: Christ! How geek am I that I knew all of that before reading TFA?

...and that's why SyFy is trying to appropriate SF fandom, after having given up on destroying SF by inventing what I like to call "BroSF". SyFy's losing viewers to streaming channels and to folks like the BBC, so they're trying something new - actually showing old SF & pushing their SF fandom efforts hard.

Fark SyFy. Fark NBCUniversal.

You know SyFy has actually been showing some good sci-fi lately, right? The Expanse and 12 Monkeys have both been really great series. Add in the The Magicians, which has been solid fantasy adaptation, and they seem to be getting back on track.

Sure, The Magicians technically shouldn't be on a channel called SyFy, but the genres are spiritual brothers with authors like GRRM ans Pratchett jumping back and forth between the genres that I'm not going to get too pedantic about it.

I'm still bummed they canceled Dark Matter. I would have prefered two more seasons of that over Killjoys. Though I enjoy that one, too.


It got canceled again? Damn, my favorite Netflix find for the last 3 years.
 
2017-10-05 06:40:55 AM  

Mad_Radhu: You know SyFy has actually been showing some good sci-fi lately, right?

Depends on your definition of "good", I guess, but I can't pass judgement on shows I haven't watched.

But I do have a sort of policy that if you lose business because you screwed up, you deserve a chance to win it back.  If you lose business because you openly loathed and actively tried to destroy what you bought, then why should I ever believe you'd do any more than the bare minimum to keep the lights on?
 
2017-10-05 06:49:41 AM  

ol' gormsby: ReaverZ: fusillade762: would have prefered two more seasons of that over Killjoys.

Killjoys is better, that's why

Hell, yes. Still not impressed that they
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SPOILER (as it's still fairly new)
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killed Pawter.


yeah, I am more impressed they didn't magic her back to life
 
2017-10-05 07:55:39 AM  
FTFA:

"In a fascinating deep dive into the term's origin story over at The Verge."

Remember when Fark would link to the source? Heck, modmins would even correct the links per callouts in the thread. It was a part of what made Fark better than the other aggregator sites. I hope the payolla is worth it for the loss in quality.

/welcome to (nu)fark
 
2017-10-05 07:58:30 AM  
A William S Burroughs story. It even thanks him in the credits.
 
2017-10-05 08:00:05 AM  

optikeye: William S Burroughs also was responsible for the naming of the band "Steely Dan"
Which was the nick name of a steam powered dildo in the novel "The Naked Lunch"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steely_Dan


Stelly Dan mark 3 from Yokohama. Crushed between the legs of a butch lesbian.
 
2017-10-05 08:23:38 AM  
s2.quickmeme.com
 
2017-10-05 08:23:59 AM  

668NeighborOfTheBeast: luckyeddie: Screw SyFy. They never enable subtitles, and I cannot lip-read.

Why do they hate deaf people?

I don't think they "hate" the hearing impaired, they just don't listen to your concerns.


668NeighborOfTheBeast SAYS THEY JUST DON'T LISTEN TO YOUR CONCERNS

/helping
 
2017-10-05 08:28:09 AM  
So 'blade runners' are just running the shadows for some nuyen, eh chummer?
I can grok that.
 
2017-10-05 08:37:10 AM  
All I know is that the soundtrack was released as well as the new Carbon Based Lifeforms album, so I know what I will be listening to for the rest of the day.
 
2017-10-05 08:57:46 AM  

Glitchwerks: All I know is that the soundtrack was released as well as the new Carbon Based Lifeforms album, so I know what I will be listening to for the rest of the day.


That Vangelis bladerunner sound...
Youtube Fne0oIEv-WI


You can make your own Blade Runner soundtrack with any decent analogue synth.
 
2017-10-05 09:20:31 AM  
If I was a paramedic I would paint Bladerunner on my ambulance now.
 
2017-10-05 09:50:57 AM  
So TLDR, they stole the title from a book that had nothing to do with their story (other than "sci-fi") because they thought it sounded neat.
 
2017-10-05 09:55:17 AM  

Wanebo: Christ! How geek am I that I knew all of that before reading TFA?


In fairness, I read Nourse's book back in the day, because of the film, and at 13 I was a bit confused at first that it had NOTHING to do with the film. But it wasn't bad, albeit kind of pointed...
 
2017-10-05 10:37:31 AM  

browntimmy: So TLDR, they stole the title from a book that had nothing to do with their story (other than "sci-fi") because they thought it sounded neat.


ART
 
2017-10-05 11:01:48 AM  
I thought it was a guy who smuggled highly modified hockey skates to the Great White North.
 
2017-10-05 11:20:08 AM  
What a blade/runner might look like.

img.fark.net
 
2017-10-05 11:26:38 AM  

NobleHam: Mad_Radhu: Sure, The Magicians technically shouldn't be on a channel called SyFy,

They changed the name to SyFy from Sci-Fi specifically to address that issue, so they could expand to areas that aren't quite science fiction.


I think it was more if a "we can trademark 'SyFy' but not 'sci-fi'" thing.
 
2017-10-05 11:38:06 AM  

NobleHam: Mad_Radhu: Sure, The Magicians technically shouldn't be on a channel called SyFy,

They changed the name to SyFy from Sci-Fi specifically to address that issue, so they could expand to areas that aren't quite science fiction.


Like wrestling.
 
2017-10-05 12:37:17 PM  
A "blade runner" is the bloody diarrhea you get after someone hides a razor blade in your cheap Halloween candy.  People who get it generally have a four-hour life span after onset of symptoms.  But at least they get to dream of unicorns.
 
2017-10-05 12:49:51 PM  

Glitchwerks: All I know is that the soundtrack was released as well as the new Carbon Based Lifeforms album, so I know what I will be listening to for the rest of the day.


I'm still bummed that the soundtrack is not by Vangelis; it's freaking Hans Zimmer & one of his protégés.  -_-;

Vangelis had 'semi-retired' for nearly a decade ... but he did just release a new album, last year.

I would hope he'd at least been asked to compose the Blade Runner 2049 soundtrack.  His music was a major component of the original movie's celebrated 'atmosphere'.
 
2017-10-05 01:11:42 PM  

noazark: I'm still bummed that the soundtrack is not by Vangelis; it's freaking Hans Zimmer & one of his protégés.  -_-;


I only just say down to listen to it, but I've read comments and people seem pretty let down by it.

noazark: I would hope he'd at least been asked to compose the Blade Runner 2049 soundtrack.  His music was a major component of the original movie's celebrated 'atmosphere'.


IMO, it's the best soundtrack ever.

It's influence in electronic music is almost omnipresent; from samples of the dialog in the movie to samples of the score, to producers constantly trying to capture that same feel from the soundtrack in their music.

The "Esper Retirement" edition of the soundtrack adds a ton of the music that was influenced by Vangelis.

Worth a listen, although most people have heard it by now!

The extended "atmospheres" are very cool too.
 
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