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2017-10-04 01:56:31 PM  
Google: See, we can remove basic functionality from our hardware and then sell it back to the customer at a huge markup too!

Android users:  Yes.  And we can continue using Samsung phones too.
 
2017-10-04 02:13:08 PM  
Well Fark the pixel.
I use my headphone jack. Assholes.
And bring me back the got damned ir port!
I guess I'll not be giving up my HTC m9 for a long time.
 
2017-10-04 02:23:54 PM  
This seems a tad premature, unless they've invented wireless headphones with 15 hrs of play time per charge.
 
2017-10-04 02:28:30 PM  
Meh, if I can get a USB to 3.5mm adapter to work with it then I'm good.
 
2017-10-04 03:10:04 PM  

Boo_Guy: Meh, if I can get a USB to 3.5mm adapter to work with it then I'm good.


It comes with one.

/order already placed for the P2
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2017-10-04 03:11:28 PM  

enry: Boo_Guy: Meh, if I can get a USB to 3.5mm adapter to work with it then I'm good.

It comes with one.

/order already placed for the P2
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Ok, I got no idea what's going on here.  Only this desktop does this.
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2017-10-04 04:32:03 PM  

enry: enry: Boo_Guy: Meh, if I can get a USB to 3.5mm adapter to work with it then I'm good.

It comes with one.

/order already placed for the P2
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Ok, I got no idea what's going on here.  Only this desktop does this.
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Does what?
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2017-10-04 04:33:37 PM  
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2017-10-04 04:33:43 PM  

rooftop235: Well Fark the pixel.
I use my headphone jack. Assholes.
And bring me back the got damned ir port!
I guess I'll not be giving up my HTC m9 for a long time.


I'll stick with my G3 -- headphone jack, micro sd, ir, and removable battery.  I won't buy a new phone if all y'all offer me is downgraded features with a slightly faster CPU and GPU.
 
2017-10-04 04:34:45 PM  

foo monkey: Does what?


I reckon this could be a new Fark thing.
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2017-10-04 04:35:32 PM  

enry: enry: Boo_Guy: Meh, if I can get a USB to 3.5mm adapter to work with it then I'm good.

It comes with one.

/order already placed for the P2
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Ok, I got no idea what's going on here.  Only this desktop does this.
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2017-10-04 04:36:03 PM  
So where is the farker that is going to post something about only needing a flip phone?
 
2017-10-04 04:38:11 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: This seems a tad premature, unless they've invented wireless headphones with 15 hrs of play time per charge.


Mine are pretty good.

I just want BT that doesn't cut out when I put my device in my pocket or grab it the wrong way. Until then, I want the option of a headphone jack even though I currently use BT. I want a fallback until the current tech is reliable.
 
2017-10-04 04:40:56 PM  
I don't like it, but it doesn't bother me as much as having a non-removable battery.  Battery life degrades over time and I'm not the kind of person who buys a new phone every year or two.

I'm still using a Galaxy S5 - if I notice my battery isn't lasting as long as it used to, I can just pop on Amazon and spend $10 and it's like new again.  That's impossible with most of the newer phones.
 
2017-10-04 04:43:56 PM  
I'll stick with my Moto z then
 
2017-10-04 04:45:31 PM  
Meh.  Never use it, have USB c earbuds and they sound better anyways.
 
2017-10-04 04:46:01 PM  
See, this is exactly why people complain whenever Apple does stupid stuff like this. We can all laugh at Apple screwing their customers, but other companies see them doing it and then cry "us too!".

My Nexus 6P battery is going to die someday. I don't want to buy any of the other phones that have corrupted versions of android / poor update support, so now what?
 
2017-10-04 04:49:38 PM  

ebell: I don't like it, but it doesn't bother me as much as having a non-removable battery.  Battery life degrades over time and I'm not the kind of person who buys a new phone every year or two.

I'm still using a Galaxy S5 - if I notice my battery isn't lasting as long as it used to, I can just pop on Amazon and spend $10 and it's like new again.  That's impossible with most of the newer phones.


I like my S5.  I recently had it the wrong way in my pocket and leaned on a front wheel spindle and cracked the screen.  I went to look at new phones to see if it was worth getting a new one...nope.  Curved screens are total shiat since they leave big-handed rough people no place to grab the phone without accidentally touching the screen and doing crap they didn't want to do.  Anything of equal spec to an S5 costs more than a new screen.  My S5 battery life is still great.  Everything about the phone is perfectly good.  I'd rather pay $100 for a new screen than $240 for a comparable new phone.
 
2017-10-04 04:50:47 PM  
You'll get over it.
 
2017-10-04 04:53:30 PM  

foo monkey: enry: enry: Boo_Guy: Meh, if I can get a USB to 3.5mm adapter to work with it then I'm good.

It comes with one.

/order already placed for the P2
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Ok, I got no idea what's going on here.  Only this desktop does this.
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Does what?
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2017-10-04 04:54:13 PM  
I really like my Pixel XL.  Looks like it will be my last Google phone.
 
2017-10-04 04:58:31 PM  
They've done more than copy Apple on the headphone jack, they've copied Apple's whole thing..... Exactly the same on the outside, with only minor upgrades internally.  Spec sheets between Pixel and Pixel 2 are almost identical.
 
2017-10-04 04:59:22 PM  

rooftop235: Well Fark the pixel.
I use my headphone jack. Assholes.
And bring me back the got damned ir port!
I guess I'll not be giving up my HTC m9 for a long time.


As of today, I no longer care.

I just figured out that, no, my headphones aren't farked up, the headphone jack on my year old phone is, so I'm going to have to get bluetooth headphones regardless.
 
2017-10-04 05:00:14 PM  

trialpha: See, this is exactly why people complain whenever Apple does stupid stuff like this. We can all laugh at Apple screwing their customers, but other companies see them doing it and then cry "us too!".

My Nexus 6P battery is going to die someday. I don't want to buy any of the other phones that have corrupted versions of android / poor update support, so now what?


The Xiaomi A1 may be what you are looking for.
 
2017-10-04 05:13:59 PM  

rooftop235: Well Fark the pixel.
I use my headphone jack. Assholes.
And bring me back the got damned ir port!
I guess I'll not be giving up my HTC m9 for a long time.


hashtag.acronym: rooftop235: Well Fark the pixel.
I use my headphone jack. Assholes.
And bring me back the got damned ir port!
I guess I'll not be giving up my HTC m9 for a long time.

I'll stick with my G3 -- headphone jack, micro sd, ir, and removable battery.  I won't buy a new phone if all y'all offer me is downgraded features with a slightly faster CPU and GPU.


ebell: I don't like it, but it doesn't bother me as much as having a non-removable battery.  Battery life degrades over time and I'm not the kind of person who buys a new phone every year or two.

I'm still using a Galaxy S5 - if I notice my battery isn't lasting as long as it used to, I can just pop on Amazon and spend $10 and it's like new again.  That's impossible with most of the newer phones.


MinkeyMan: trialpha: See, this is exactly why people complain whenever Apple does stupid stuff like this. We can all laugh at Apple screwing their customers, but other companies see them doing it and then cry "us too!".

My Nexus 6P battery is going to die someday. I don't want to buy any of the other phones that have corrupted versions of android / poor update support, so now what?

The Xiaomi A1 may be what you are looking for.


The LG V20 has a Removable Battery, IR Blaster, MicroSD Card Slot, And a headphone jack.  Had mine almost a year and am very happy with it.

Now that the V30 is out. (Non-Removable battery, no 2nd screen), the V20 should be pretty cheap, too.
 
2017-10-04 05:14:46 PM  

ebell: I don't like it, but it doesn't bother me as much as having a non-removable battery.  Battery life degrades over time and I'm not the kind of person who buys a new phone every year or two.

I'm still using a Galaxy S5 - if I notice my battery isn't lasting as long as it used to, I can just pop on Amazon and spend $10 and it's like new again.  That's impossible with most of the newer phones.


Always want removable batteries for that reason, but also because sometimes pulling the battery is the best way to get out of a locked up phone.

But found a new reason this week... The wife's phone is just not charging, you have to put the cables in just right, and lock the thing in a seismologically isolated room that nobody's allowed to enter, or the damn cable gets bumped. By simply opening the back and adding a card, I was able to make her phone capable of wireless charging. Without a removable battery, there would be no reason to remove the back, so I wouldn't have been able to do that. But by being able to buy all of that equipment after market, I saved a shiat ton of money, so it's better than paying for that capability up front.
 
2017-10-04 05:15:12 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: This seems a tad premature, unless they've invented wireless headphones with 15 hrs of play time per charge.


The Beats Solo 3 headphones do up to 40 hours on a charge.
 
2017-10-04 05:15:32 PM  

hybrid.divide: rooftop235: Well Fark the pixel.
I use my headphone jack. Assholes.
And bring me back the got damned ir port!
I guess I'll not be giving up my HTC m9 for a long time.

hashtag.acronym: rooftop235: Well Fark the pixel.
I use my headphone jack. Assholes.
And bring me back the got damned ir port!
I guess I'll not be giving up my HTC m9 for a long time.

I'll stick with my G3 -- headphone jack, micro sd, ir, and removable battery.  I won't buy a new phone if all y'all offer me is downgraded features with a slightly faster CPU and GPU.

ebell: I don't like it, but it doesn't bother me as much as having a non-removable battery.  Battery life degrades over time and I'm not the kind of person who buys a new phone every year or two.

I'm still using a Galaxy S5 - if I notice my battery isn't lasting as long as it used to, I can just pop on Amazon and spend $10 and it's like new again.  That's impossible with most of the newer phones.

MinkeyMan: trialpha: See, this is exactly why people complain whenever Apple does stupid stuff like this. We can all laugh at Apple screwing their customers, but other companies see them doing it and then cry "us too!".

My Nexus 6P battery is going to die someday. I don't want to buy any of the other phones that have corrupted versions of android / poor update support, so now what?

The Xiaomi A1 may be what you are looking for.

The LG V20 has a Removable Battery, IR Blaster, MicroSD Card Slot, And a headphone jack.  Had mine almost a year and am very happy with it.

Now that the V30 is out. (Non-Removable battery, no 2nd screen), the V20 should be pretty cheap, too.


Good. I have the V10 and absolutely love it. With the new one out, and the wife needing a new phone, i now have two options. :-)
 
2017-10-04 05:21:47 PM  
I am just here to boast about the fact that I can't afford bluetooth.
 
2017-10-04 05:23:21 PM  
hashtag.acronym:

I'll stick with my G3 -- headphone jack, micro sd, ir, and removable battery.  I won't buy a new phone if all y'all offer me is downgraded features with a slightly faster CPU and GPU.

The LG V20 is the last phone from LG with all those features. They're still being sold as new devices though they're a model year old. I'm a huge fan of LG because those G and V series devices prior to 2017 models are incredibly easy to work on. They'll also fix boot looping phones outside the warranty period, for the person who is invariably going to bring that up. The V20 can also run LineageOS and has a current ROM for Android O, which suggests that it will continue to work and get updates for the next few years.
 
2017-10-04 05:24:09 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Google: See, we can remove basic functionality from our hardware and then sell it back to the customer at a huge markup too!

Android users:  Yes.  And we can continue using Samsung phones too.


Yeah... I had a Galaxy Nexus and have a Tab Pro. I would rather buy i-products than deal with Samsung's garbage batteries, and finicky hardware ever again. Plus it's been a while since I've had to mess with mods, but with Cyanogen gone I wouldn't even know where to start to replace Samsung's garbage UI with stock.

Sadly, my nexus 6 is now pushing 3 years old and while it's still running great, it is time for a replacement. I will be purchasing a pixel 2xl and will miss the headphone jack. Removing it a stupid decision.
 
2017-10-04 05:27:49 PM  

Slow To Return: I am just here to boast about the fact that I can't afford bluetooth.


Bluetooth comes for free in your phone, buddy.

And for headphones? I just bought a pair of BT headphones for $35.
 
2017-10-04 05:30:17 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: So where is the farker that is going to post something about only needing a flip phone?


You called?     Nah... couldn't be.   I haven't had a call in years.  Most people just text.

/kidding
//well, kidding about not having a call in years, but most ppl do just txt.
///has a tablet so doesn't need a smartphone
 
2017-10-04 05:30:58 PM  
Courage....

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2017-10-04 05:35:03 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: So where is the farker that is going to post something about only needing a flip phone?


/only has a flip phone.
 
2017-10-04 05:46:07 PM  
I have a Nexus 5x and would buy again from Google but this is a dealbreaker.
 
2017-10-04 05:50:54 PM  
Check out our new feature of less basic stuff!!!

YES, TAKE MY MONEY!!!!
 
2017-10-04 06:01:08 PM  
About the third time my Bluetooth headphone battery died 15 minutes into my hour long workout, I swore Bluetooth off forever.  Thanks for making me trade no hassle whatsoever for minor hassle at best.
 
2017-10-04 06:01:39 PM  

dirkfunk: but with Cyanogen gone


It's called LineageOS now. Same thing though.
 
2017-10-04 06:04:38 PM  
I think it's silly to replace the jack, but the more manufacturers follow suit the easier it will be. Just so long as we're on a standard.
 
2017-10-04 06:05:04 PM  

Mad_Radhu: rzrwiresunrise: This seems a tad premature, unless they've invented wireless headphones with 15 hrs of play time per charge.

The Beats Solo 3 headphones do up to 40 hours on a charge.


There are dozens of Bluetooth headphones in can style, hang over ear, or in ear that do over 30 hours. Narrow it down to aptx codec so you get like 100m distance, and you drop it to maybe 20.

I got active noise canceling, over the ear can style with aptx for $40 on Amazon lightning deal. Regularly $100.

Cheap options include $10 ones, so cost isn't really an issue to get that minimum of 15 hours either. But I think $20 to $30 is normally the sweet spot.
 
2017-10-04 06:06:35 PM  

Quantumbunny: Mad_Radhu: rzrwiresunrise: This seems a tad premature, unless they've invented wireless headphones with 15 hrs of play time per charge.

The Beats Solo 3 headphones do up to 40 hours on a charge.

There are dozens of Bluetooth headphones in can style, hang over ear, or in ear that do over 30 hours. Narrow it down to aptx codec so you get like 100m distance, and you drop it to maybe 20.

I got active noise canceling, over the ear can style with aptx for $40 on Amazon lightning deal. Regularly $100.

Cheap options include $10 ones, so cost isn't really an issue to get that minimum of 15 hours either. But I think $20 to $30 is normally the sweet spot.


I should have clarified, deep to 20 options, not hours of play time or cost. Mine get me 34 hours. Never bothered to time, but I've use them non stop over a full day of travel just fine.
 
2017-10-04 06:09:39 PM  

trialpha: See, this is exactly why people complain whenever Apple does stupid stuff like this. We can all laugh at Apple screwing their customers, but other companies see them doing it and then cry "us too!".

My Nexus 6P battery is going to die someday. I don't want to buy any of the other phones that have corrupted versions of android / poor update support, so now what?


I've just replaced the battery in my 6p tonight because it kept dying at 15%. Man what a pain in the arse that was.

I wanted a Pixel, but now I don't know what to get, I have a rather nice pair of earbuds that I paid a decent amount for, so I refuse to go bluetooth.
 
2017-10-04 06:15:04 PM  

trialpha: See, this is exactly why people complain whenever Apple does stupid stuff like this. We can all laugh at Apple screwing their customers, but other companies see them doing it and then cry "us too!".

My Nexus 6P battery is going to die someday. I don't want to buy any of the other phones that have corrupted versions of android / poor update support, so now what?


Go to ifixit.com and learn how to replace the battery.
I'm on the original battery on my Nexus 6.
 
2017-10-04 06:18:41 PM  

ryant123: foo monkey: Does what?

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2017-10-04 06:24:36 PM  

dirkfunk: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Google: See, we can remove basic functionality from our hardware and then sell it back to the customer at a huge markup too!

Android users:  Yes.  And we can continue using Samsung phones too.

Yeah... I had a Galaxy Nexus and have a Tab Pro. I would rather buy i-products than deal with Samsung's garbage batteries, and finicky hardware ever again. Plus it's been a while since I've had to mess with mods, but with Cyanogen gone I wouldn't even know where to start to replace Samsung's garbage UI with stock.

Sadly, my nexus 6 is now pushing 3 years old and while it's still running great, it is time for a replacement. I will be purchasing a pixel 2xl and will miss the headphone jack. Removing it a stupid decision.


I can't stand the Samsung weirdness so I went from my Samsung Galaxy Pro Tab 12.2 with a permanently dead battery - even after being replaced - to a couple of Google Nexus 9s.  At least one of those is hanging with bit rot.

I loved the pure Google experience on my Nexus 5 but had to replace it with a Nexus 6 after it went through the snowblower (! I think it could still work)

I ordered the Pixel 2XL128GB during the event and also will pass my Nexus 6 on. I'll mostly miss wireless charging.

I'm glad I get to try a Google Home Mini for "free" with the purchase.  If it's more open for tying into my home automation I may shed my Amazon Echo investment.
 
2017-10-04 06:33:36 PM  

Russ1642: I have a Nexus 5x and would buy again from Google but this is a dealbreaker.


Same here....
 
2017-10-04 06:36:46 PM  
Meh, it comes with an adapter for the rare occasions I'm not on bluetooth. But I've used bluetooth headphones almost exclusively for awhile now, especially when running/working out. Just a lot easier to not have a cord to contend with.

I went for the Pixel 2 (non xl) 64GB to replace my Nexus 6. Don't need that much storage cause I'm almost always on WiFi and I have plenty of data that rolls over. And I'm kind of done with big 6" phones. I like the 6, but it is starting to show it's age and it's too damn big.
 
2017-10-04 07:17:32 PM  

scanman61: Russ1642: I have a Nexus 5x and would buy again from Google but this is a dealbreaker.

Same here....


Ditto. Looks like I'm going to be getting a OnePlus 5. Nothing revolutionary but a solid near vanilla Android phone at a price point closer to the original Nexus phones (at least the later generation Nexus phones).
 
2017-10-04 07:18:20 PM  

netringer: Go to ifixit.com and learn how to replace the battery.
I'm on the original battery on my Nexus 6.


There's two problems here:

1) The Nexus 6p has a repairability rating of 2/10. It's a mess of glue.
2) Even if it was easy to fix, getting replacement batteries will be difficult. The manufacturer stops making them with the phone, so by the time the original battery dies, all you'll be able to find are sketchy third party ones. That's what happened with my Nexus 4 - sketchy third-party replacement battery was junk.
 
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