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(Den Of Geek)   There is no win in this headline: "Jared Leto Will Play Hugh Hefner for Brett Ratner"   ( denofgeek.com) divider line
    More: Misc, director Brett Ratner, Hugh Hefner, founder Hugh Hefner, Ratner's RatPac, Christie Hefner, Playboy Enterprises, Jared Leto, Los Angeles  
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2017-10-04 10:32:43 PM  
I can only assume that subby is sh*tting on Leto because of Suicide Squad. I'll be honest: it was a terrible movie, but I found it entertaining, and I thought Leto did a good job. He made the Joker his own thing. He separated it from past performances and entered new territory. Some of that territory was of dubious value, but it was novel and interesting.

Compare to other Jokers:

Cesar Romero: utter camp, in a good way, but not quite what we're generally looking for in the modern age.

Jack Nicholson as himself as the Joker. Enough said?

Heath Ledger: very good job, but the nihilistic themes seemed overplayed (I'm a philosopher and play a lot of Old World of Darkness games, so my standards are probably ridiculous high for "dark" material compared to most), and I don't think there would have been nearly as much praise if he hadn't died. The character didn't seem to have an overall purpose, but that was the purpose, and the point, which I applaud.

Mark Hamill: the definite Joker as far as I'm concerned. Batman: The Animated Series is one of the best animated shows of all time. Hamill as the Joker, Ron Perlman as Clayface, and DAVID F*CKING WARNER as Ra's al Ghul. How can you go wrong?
 
2017-10-04 11:52:00 PM  
Apparently the original choice (probably from way back before Ratner had the rights) was Robert Downey Jr.
 
2017-10-05 12:21:42 AM  
So long as we get Stan Lee as old Hef, it'll all work out in the end.
 
2017-10-05 12:22:37 AM  
I remember a tv movie about Hef a number of years back.  Guy who played the lead did a pretty damn good job.
 
2017-10-05 12:48:35 AM  
Ther is only one solution to stop this madness.  JADEN SMITH must play JARED LETO in a BIOGRAPHY of JARED LETO.


"LETO: Bad Actor Or Worst Actor?"
 
2017-10-05 01:06:19 AM  
I don't believe in the no-win headline.
 
2017-10-05 01:09:06 AM  
How this douche keeps landing roles is beyond my comprehension.
I was almost tempted to go see BR2049 until I saw JL was in it as well.
 
2017-10-05 01:09:13 AM  

Sid_6.7: Mark Hamill: the definite Joker as far as I'm concerned. Batman: The Animated Series is one of the best animated shows of all time. Hamill as the Joker, Ron Perlman as Clayface, and DAVID F*CKING WARNER as Ra's al Ghul. How can you go wrong?


Damn straight!
 
2017-10-05 01:26:40 AM  
This is an Oglaf comic, right?
 
2017-10-05 04:46:02 AM  
Oh, good, they're casting a dude who is pretty much synonymous with inappropriate harrassing, creepy pedo behavior in everyone's mind at this point as Hefner... a man who was rather famously never any of those things despite his profession and sex life.

Guess we're rolling hard with the demonization bandwagon with this biopic.  Yay.

Sid_6.7: Jack Nicholson as himself as the Joker. Enough said?


In fairness, Jack Nicholson's "intense to the point where you start wondering about his sanity" bit that he'd injected into everything since Little Shop of Horrors fits really well with one of the most common ways the comics Joker was portrayed, at least in the better comics.

It's a little weird that they went for that when the immediate precedent was Romero, but on its own it was spot-on perfect casting that did a lot to balance out some of the more bafflingly stupid decisions the movie made (like having Joker be the murderer of the Waynes).

Also, Ledger's Joker wasn't a Nihilist, he was an anarchist.  He had a specific objection to the social contract as a whole and felt strongly that things would be improved by tearing it down, sort of a reverse-Leviathan Hobbes thing where the ideal is for every individual to submit to their basest nature.  Nihilism kind of necessarily precludes things having strongly different inherent moral values like that.
 
2017-10-05 06:27:52 AM  
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2017-10-05 06:49:09 AM  
I am sorry, but when Leo was Hugh Glass, then was handed an OSCAR for it, "he's not the right fit" goes out the window.

/sadly, Leto was better in DBC than McCougnahay
 
2017-10-05 06:50:21 AM  
And, yes, DiCaprio trying to act like he's dirtied his hands once in his life is probably as hard as watching Leto in serious roles.
 
2017-10-05 07:49:00 AM  
Let's focus here people! Who is going to play,Barbi Benton!?
 
2017-10-05 08:38:00 AM  
There is only one man that could do Hugh Hefner justice, but he quit acting to biatch about politics on teevee nearly 25 years ago.
 
2017-10-05 08:53:40 AM  
Add "in bed" to the end of the headline and it's at least got shock humor going for it.
 
2017-10-05 09:15:32 AM  
Cliff Robertson was a wonderfully creepy Hefner in Star 80.
 
2017-10-05 09:54:00 AM  
Brett Ratner is the director of X-Men: The Last Stand and there's definitely no win in that movie.
 
2017-10-05 11:31:07 AM  
That's a triple barf surprise right there.
 
2017-10-06 12:07:22 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Also, Ledger's Joker wasn't a Nihilist, he was an anarchist. He had a specific objection to the social contract as a whole and felt strongly that things would be improved by tearing it down, sort of a reverse-Leviathan Hobbes thing where the ideal is for every individual to submit to their basest nature. Nihilism kind of necessarily precludes things having strongly different inherent moral values like that.


This thread be old, but I love philosophy.

Disagree. Anarchists generally have a cause involving individual freedom and a lack of government. Ledger's Joker simply wanted to tear things down and destroy the faith of others. That is nihilism. He was a victim of what may be called cold/passive nihilism, which is when the individual has their beliefs destroyed and then concludes that nothing matters (as opposed to hot/active nihilism in which the individual goes out of their way to discard their beliefs that don't make sense for their time and place, and seek new ideals, thus avoiding the threat of passive nihilism).

Here's a good explanation:

http://www.nihil.org/nihilist/nihilism

I consider myself a nihilist, not in the sense that "we believe in nothing, Lebowski, nothing" but in the sense that every received cultural value should be questioned and reviewed for relevance under current conditions. Trying to follow a morality that has little or no application to one's life simply because someone told you to live that way is folly. To be clear: I believe in helping other people whenever I can. I believe in the value of self-sacrifice for the greater good of humanity. But I do not accept those things as given, I have a clear personal basis for believing them.
 
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