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(Minneapolis Star Tribune)   Does anyone know what the record is for number of DWI convictions? This man just got his 28th, and his mug shot seems to support the story   ( startribune.com) divider line
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2017-10-03 08:01:11 PM  
14 votes:
How does a guy like this even have a driver's license and insurance?
2017-10-03 09:47:47 PM  
13 votes:
2017-10-04 12:52:28 AM  
9 votes:
Time to fix the law.

3rd DWIs - no driver's license for 10 years.  We can't trust you behind a wheel.
4th DWI with a valid license - no driver's license ever again.  You haven't learned your lesson.
5th DWI or 4th DWI with no license - lifetime prison sentence.

One could argue the numbers, but racking up three DWIs is a sign you're a screwup.

If you continue to drive without a license, you have demonstrated that you are a continued risk to society.  That's what life in prison is for - it ensures you'll never get behind a wheel ever again.

This man had a valid driver's license after 27 DWIs.  That's just insane.
151 [TotalFark]
2017-10-04 02:02:44 AM  
8 votes:
What really kills me is that the maximum penalty for 28 DUIs in Wisconsin is SEVEN. FARKING. YEARS.

That's it? Some of you may be aware that once upon a time, I was a retarded piece of shiat, and over 14 years racked up 4 duis. Not proud of it, ashamed of it, so save your bullshiat.

Anyway, the statutory max for my 4th was 7.5 years. I was sentenced to 1.5-7.5 years, did 27 months. For my FOURTH.

And I'm not at all complaining about my sentence, if anything mine was probably to lenient (though enough to get the point across to not be a retarded piece of shiat, which I no longer am).

Wisconsin, what the FARK?
2017-10-04 12:51:34 AM  
8 votes:

CrazyCurt: Oh. Minnesota. Pretty much explains it.

/ 3 winters. All it took. 3 winters and OUT!


Pussy.

Still going strong after 25 years in the North Woods.
2017-10-04 12:55:26 AM  
6 votes:

ChicagoKev: I don't know what the record is, but I can all but guarantee it is held by a Wisconsin resident.

When I moved to Madison, the big local scandal in the news was a State Representative arrested for DUI ... it wasn't news that a state official was driving intoxicated; what made it newsworthy was this was Rep Wood's 5th such arrest.


I can vouch for this statement.
I grew up in Madison in the 70's and 80's.
My father had 7 dui's before I turned 18 and left for Denver.
He never served more than 90 days in jail for any one of them.
Ahh, the good ole' days...

I learned a lesson from that, drink at home so you can drink without ever stressing about getting home.
You're already there!
Cheers to my Dad!
2017-10-04 12:40:18 AM  
6 votes:
I don't know what the record is, but I can all but guarantee it is held by a Wisconsin resident.

When I moved to Madison, the big local scandal in the news was a State Representative arrested for DUI ... it wasn't news that a state official was driving intoxicated; what made it newsworthy was this was Rep Wood's 5th such arrest.
2017-10-04 01:52:00 AM  
5 votes:

EmmaLou: Did he hey lenient judges? How did that even happen? How the hell did he have a valid driver's license? He's lucky he didn't kill anyone. I've had more than one cousin get DUIs here and it cost them each between $500 and $1000.


You don't need a license or insurance to drive, you just need a car and the will to.
2017-10-04 01:28:41 AM  
5 votes:
Huh.. he still looks better than Steve Bannon.
2017-10-04 12:51:05 AM  
5 votes:
"In one court filing from a previous conviction that he made challenging fines he owed the court, Bettcher revealed that he had been suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder in connection with his military service."

I'm by no way excusing his behavior, but maybe, just maybe, if the above is true, the guy needs some help?
Serious, honest-to-goodness help?
151 [TotalFark]
2017-10-04 02:15:55 AM  
4 votes:

151: What really kills me is that the maximum penalty for 28 DUIs in Wisconsin is SEVEN. FARKING. YEARS.

That's it? Some of you may be aware that once upon a time, I was a retarded piece of shiat, and over 14 years racked up 4 duis. Not proud of it, ashamed of it, so save your bullshiat.

Anyway, the statutory max for my 4th was 7.5 years. I was sentenced to 1.5-7.5 years, did 27 months. For my FOURTH.

And I'm not at all complaining about my sentence, if anything mine was probably to lenient (though enough to get the point across to not be a retarded piece of shiat, which I no longer am).

Wisconsin, what the FARK?


Let me clarify, which I meant to in my original post but forgot: in Michigan, habitual felons max sentenced are increased exponentially.

So a third DUI, which is a first felony DUI, has a statutory max of 5 years. Your 4th, also second felony DUI, the max is increased by 50%, to 7.5 years. If I were to go out tonight and catch my 5th DUI, which would be my third habitual felony DUI, my max would increase 100% from the original, to 10 years.

After that, meaning my 6th DUI, fourth habitual felony, would be punishable by any term of years, less than life, provided that the original felony itself was not punishable by life.

This is how felonies work in Michigan, and I think how they should work everywhere. The DUI example is a bit weird because it's only a felony after the first two misdemeanor offences.

But think of it like this: home invasion, or firearm possession, heroin, etc, all felonies no matter what. You get caught with heroin 3 times, you can get sentenced to a max of 99 years.

What the fark is wrong with Wisconsin that they don't have the option to lock away a man that is so clearly a threat to the community for the rest of his foreseeable future? Something needs to change there, ffs.
WGJ [TotalFark]
2017-10-04 12:44:53 AM  
4 votes:
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2017-10-04 12:32:54 AM  
4 votes:

mr_larry: How does a guy like this even have a driver's license and insurance?


He doesn't
2017-10-04 05:36:08 AM  
3 votes:
"The officer located Bettcher's license and noted that it restricted him from drinking and driving."
I want that license that makes it legal to do both.
2017-10-04 01:33:30 AM  
3 votes:

axeeugene: CrazyCurt: Oh. Minnesota. Pretty much explains it.

/ 3 winters. All it took. 3 winters and OUT!

Pussy.

Still going strong after 25 years in the North Woods.


Amen. It's weird to me how many people are just kind of allergic to the concept of winter.

My family's lived in California, Florida, Hawaii... THAT shiat is gross and stupid. Each season is lovely and annoying in its own way. People who go out of their way to avoid any cold and live in "perma-summer" places weird me out.
2017-10-04 01:13:27 AM  
3 votes:
This man is on his 28th DUI and no one seems to want to know why he continues to self medicate?

/being from Minnesota only accounts for the first 5 or 6
2017-10-04 12:37:35 AM  
3 votes:
Oh. Minnesota. Pretty much explains it.

/ 3 winters. All it took. 3 winters and OUT!
2017-10-04 09:36:38 AM  
2 votes:

The Jami Turman Fan Club: DUI test doesn't really matter.  They pulled you over for a reason.


They don't need a reason to pull you over.
2017-10-04 09:24:31 AM  
2 votes:
How about after your 3rd DUI, you get a 20 year prison term for attempted murder.
2017-10-04 08:43:13 AM  
2 votes:
I like how it says in the article that his driver's licence forbids him from driving drunk.  I thought ALL driver's licences have a restriction on driving drunk.
2017-10-04 02:01:43 AM  
2 votes:

Mugato: To Wish Impossible Things: 5th DWI or 4th DWI with no license - lifetime prison sentence.

That's over doing it a much. Especially since the DUI tests are less than reliable.


DUI test doesn't really matter.  They pulled you over for a reason.  They suspected you were drunk for a reason.  They tested you for a reason.  By that point, you don't need the results of the test to show you're DUI.   I thought a year in jail for the second offense in 5 years would do the trick.  Minnesota legislators passed it, judges would downgrade the offense to get the person out of it.  Really sick.

/Does not apply to random checkpoints, or stalking a bar.
//The first was declared Unconstitutional in Minnesota, the latter has gotten thousands of complaints and they've mostly stopped.
///If the police pull you over because you didn't appear to be driving safely, you shouldn't be on the road no matter what the cause.
2017-10-04 01:22:12 AM  
2 votes:

fragMasterFlash: This man is on his 28th DUI and no one seems to want to know why he continues to self medicate?


He's still alive.
2017-10-04 01:21:39 AM  
2 votes:

EmmaLou: Did he hey lenient judges?


I've heard of drunk judges. Met a few in person.
2017-10-04 01:21:05 AM  
2 votes:

To Wish Impossible Things: Time to fix the law.

3rd DWIs - no driver's license for 10 years.  We can't trust you behind a wheel.
4th DWI with a valid license - no driver's license ever again.  You haven't learned your lesson.
5th DWI or 4th DWI with no license - lifetime prison sentence.

One could argue the numbers, but racking up three DWIs is a sign you're a screwup.

If you continue to drive without a license, you have demonstrated that you are a continued risk to society.  That's what life in prison is for - it ensures you'll never get behind a wheel ever again.

This man had a valid driver's license after 27 DWIs.  That's just insane.


Sieze the vehicle used as an apparatus used in committing a felony.
2017-10-04 01:18:53 AM  
2 votes:

ChicagoKev: I don't know what the record is, but I can all but guarantee it is held by a Wisconsin resident.

When I moved to Madison, the big local scandal in the news was a State Representative arrested for DUI ... it wasn't news that a state official was driving intoxicated; what made it newsworthy was this was Rep Wood's 5th such arrest.


Did a quick search and came up with this:

ANDERSON, Ind. -- A 74-year-old Anderson man who's been arrested at least 400 times for drunken driving was sentenced Monday to 17 years in prison for his latest drunken driving conviction. Virldeen Redmon was arrested in July for driving even though his license had been suspended for life. His latest conviction was on charges of driving while intoxicated, endangering a person and driving while suspended.
Police have been arresting Redmon since 1947, including three times since June. He's had his driver's license suspended for life five times. In 1996, a judge sentenced Redmon to 9-1/2 years in prison. That sentence was reduced in 2001 and he was released after a doctor testified that Redmon suffers from health problems.


I live in New Mexico and unfortunately it doesn't appear to be uncommon for people to be arrested for more than 20 DWIs. This one was kind of memorable for not only the number but the bac of the arrest:

In August of 2009, a New Mexico police dashboard camera captured the DUI arrest of Delano T. Vigil. The video showed no apparent sign of intoxication as Vigil was coherent and walking. However, it was later determined that Vigil's blood alcohol content was an almost five times the legal limit at 0.392 percent, enough to kill some people. Even more surprising was that the arrest marked Vigil's 22nd DUI.
2017-10-04 12:58:45 AM  
2 votes:

Satampra Zeiros: "In one court filing from a previous conviction that he made challenging fines he owed the court, Bettcher revealed that he had been suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder in connection with his military service."

I'm by no way excusing his behavior, but maybe, just maybe, if the above is true, the guy needs some help?
Serious, honest-to-goodness help?


When the president is referring to people with adverse mental conditions as "sickos," I don't hold out hope for the mental health industry seeing the funding it needs.
2017-10-04 12:57:55 AM  
2 votes:
Is he just naturally blurry?
2017-10-04 12:53:10 PM  
1 vote:
28 DWI's?  Sounds like the drunk that killed my uncle. 

4:30 in the afternoon, this guy is drunk and runs over my uncle, who was on his motorcycle and stopped at a red light.  IIRC, the guy that killed my uncle was on his 15th DWI, or so.  They finally put him away for 10-15yrs, but nothing will bring my uncle back. 

RIP Gary
2017-10-04 11:28:34 AM  
1 vote:

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Mugato: To Wish Impossible Things: 5th DWI or 4th DWI with no license - lifetime prison sentence.

That's over doing it a much. Especially since the DUI tests are less than reliable.

DUI test doesn't really matter.  They pulled you over for a reason.  They suspected you were drunk for a reason.  They tested you for a reason.  By that point, you don't need the results of the test to show you're DUI.   I thought a year in jail for the second offense in 5 years would do the trick.  Minnesota legislators passed it, judges would downgrade the offense to get the person out of it.  Really sick.

/Does not apply to random checkpoints, or stalking a bar.
//The first was declared Unconstitutional in Minnesota, the latter has gotten thousands of complaints and they've mostly stopped.
///If the police pull you over because you didn't appear to be driving safely, you shouldn't be on the road no matter what the cause.


No. "They pulled you over" because you are driving between midnight and 4 am. "You were weaving" is the most common answer they give. How can you refute that short of having a dashcam video from the cop car? Once they have you stopped, that's when they notice the glassy eyes and strong odor of alcohol "about the person". The chances you have been drinking are huge after midnight. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

I've been out at a bar drinking soda all night. Cop pulls me over a block from the bar "because I was weaving." I was fully rested, sober and wide awake. I was not weaving. After returning to my car with my license and registration, first question was "how much have you had to drink tonight?" while leaning towards me to smell for alcohol. "Nothing." He shined his flashlight into my face. Knowing he didn't have a DUI, he quickly wrapped it up saying "well, be more careful and stay in your lane. Have a safe night."

It's bullshiat, but that is how they play the game. More than likely, they pull someone over, near a bar, after midnight, the cops will have a DUI.
2017-10-04 09:26:39 AM  
1 vote:
I dunno, I always thought this was an epic DUI mugshot.

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2017-10-04 07:31:25 AM  
1 vote:
Bettcher, who had a valid yet restricted driver's license at the time of his arrest, remains jailed in lieu of $100,000 bail ahead of an Oct. 30 court appearance.

28 arrests. This is what happens when a society treats drunk driving as an inevitable nuisance, instead of a serious problem.
2017-10-04 07:17:16 AM  
1 vote:

Voodoo_Stu: Voodoo_Stu: thorpe: Henry Earl

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They reused one of the photos.

.. At least two of the photos.


There should be a Henry Earl version of Concentration.
2017-10-04 06:34:10 AM  
1 vote:

Catlenfell: They should probably start cracking down on the bars at some point.
New York Mills is a small town. I'm sure that every bar in 10 miles knows this guy.
Wanted style posters should be hung in every bar in town warning of a fine if they serve him.


Once again, find a group that didn't do anything wrong, and crack down on them. For all we know the guy goes to liquor stores.

Presumably the guy's fine driving when he's not half in the bag, I wonder how difficult it is to give DWI offenders a temporary driver's license that serves to prevent them from purchasing alcohol. All it would take is something that identifies the person as a convicted drunk driver, maybe something as simple as changing or adding a digit/letter. This would make it simple for liquor stores and grocery stores who already (at least in my state) proof everybody to identify who they're not supposed to be selling to.

Failing that, take the drunk's car, give him a bus pass and hold the car until he demonstrates he's gotten his shiat together.
2017-10-04 05:18:50 AM  
1 vote:
get an Uber you f*cking dangerous prick
2017-10-04 04:54:37 AM  
1 vote:
They should probably start cracking down on the bars at some point.
New York Mills is a small town. I'm sure that every bar in 10 miles knows this guy.
Wanted style posters should be hung in every bar in town warning of a fine if they serve him.
2017-10-04 03:18:47 AM  
1 vote:

HoratioGates: I think at that point you need an ankle bracelet that checks your blood alcohol level, AND goes off if you go faster than 5 mph.  Give the local mass transit and taxi guys a number to call the police at to let the police know he has gotten on a bus.  Any other time he goes over 5 mph you throw him in jail for a week.  Any time his blood alcohol goes over half the legal limit, you throw him in jail for a week.  Any time he gets caught in the driver's seat, even if it's just sitting in a parking space, you throw his butt in jail for a week.  Quick, immediate punishment for every infraction.  Maybe you can recondition him.


A GPS-enabled ankle monitor is a far better solution than paying to house and feed this broken man for the rest of his life. It still doesn't get him the mental health care he needs and probably won't ever accept, but neither would prison, at this point.
2017-10-04 03:11:39 AM  
1 vote:

To Wish Impossible Things: Time to fix the law.

3rd DWIs - no driver's license for 10 years.  We can't trust you behind a wheel.
4th DWI with a valid license - no driver's license ever again.  You haven't learned your lesson.
5th DWI or 4th DWI with no license - lifetime prison sentence.

One could argue the numbers, but racking up three DWIs is a sign you're a screwup.

If you continue to drive without a license, you have demonstrated that you are a continued risk to society.  That's what life in prison is for - it ensures you'll never get behind a wheel ever again.

This man had a valid driver's license after 27 DWIs.  That's just insane.


On the other hand, he's never actually hurt or killed anyone, apparently, not even himself. I'm not a DUI defender, but I don't think that calls for a life sentence?
2017-10-04 02:40:50 AM  
1 vote:

Voodoo_Stu: thorpe: Henry Earl

[img.fark.net image 750x700]

They reused one of the photos.


Two!
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https://29a.ch/photo-forensics/
2017-10-04 01:56:42 AM  
1 vote:
Is Henry Earl still alive? What's his current status?
2017-10-04 01:43:27 AM  
1 vote:
Being Fark I expected the "Hero" tag.
2017-10-04 01:40:38 AM  
1 vote:
Just a reminder, guns are less regulated than vehicles!
2017-10-04 01:32:44 AM  
1 vote:
I think at that point you need an ankle bracelet that checks your blood alcohol level, AND goes off if you go faster than 5 mph.  Give the local mass transit and taxi guys a number to call the police at to let the police know he has gotten on a bus.  Any other time he goes over 5 mph you throw him in jail for a week.  Any time his blood alcohol goes over half the legal limit, you throw him in jail for a week.  Any time he gets caught in the driver's seat, even if it's just sitting in a parking space, you throw his butt in jail for a week.  Quick, immediate punishment for every infraction.  Maybe you can recondition him.
2017-10-04 01:19:37 AM  
1 vote:
Did he hey lenient judges? How did that even happen? How the hell did he have a valid driver's license? He's lucky he didn't kill anyone. I've had more than one cousin get DUIs here and it cost them each between $500 and $1000.
2017-10-04 01:07:29 AM  
1 vote:

To Wish Impossible Things: 5th DWI or 4th DWI with no license - lifetime prison sentence.


That's over doing it a much. Especially since the DUI tests are less than reliable.
2017-10-04 12:56:09 AM  
1 vote:
The expression on his face is that of a man who just found out his last drunken drive reulted in a crash that killed a three year old, put her daddy in a coma and her momma in the emergency room and the sound he's hearing is being made by the momma just after hearing her baby is dead.

 I've no pity for that rat faced turd, killing him now would be a premptive act of self defense.
2017-10-04 12:50:18 AM  
1 vote:
Wisconsin needs to step up their game losing to Minnesota like that.
2017-10-04 12:34:42 AM  
1 vote:

cmb53208: mr_larry: How does a guy like this even have a driver's license and insurance?

He doesn't


Wait, WTF, he didhave a license
2017-10-04 12:09:57 AM  
1 vote:
Oh, it's you.  You, Bettcher.
2017-10-03 09:31:22 PM  
1 vote:
Also, I could be wrong, but I think he has a can of beer hidden in one of his chins.
2017-10-03 08:12:59 PM  
1 vote:

FrancoFile: Jim Gaffigan's fallen on hard times.


Actually, Drew might look like that in another 10 years.
2017-10-03 07:42:26 PM  
1 vote:
Jim Gaffigan's fallen on hard times.
 
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