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(NYPost)   Shark Tank is one of the most popular shows on TV year in and year out despite being in one of the worst time slots. So... why doesn't anyone talk about it?   ( nypost.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Mark Cuban, Shark, Shark Tank, owner Mark Cuban, competitive reality program, Structured Reality Program, 2-hour season premiere, little media attention  
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2017-10-03 12:35:19 PM  
18 votes:
A bunch of fabulously wealthy people sitting around, watching people with ideas, skill and talent come to them with some brilliant ideas, and then the wealthy people haggle with the talented people over the sale of their inventions, so that the wealthy people can become even more wealthy on the backs of others.

Yeah, gee, I don't know why I don't watch it more often.
2017-10-03 12:33:53 PM  
15 votes:
Because it's basically an hour long infomercial. We enjoy it, but it's not Must See TV or something you talk about with coworkers.

Also, stop putting people/products on there that have no sales. Sharks almost never buy into it. And stop offering $5M for 3% of your company, especially when you only have $150 in revenue in 6 months. You know it's bullshiat and so do they.
2017-10-03 01:34:18 PM  
10 votes:
I helped a client get a top-10 $ offer in ST history...yeah, then we got a look at their contract terms beyond the fake offer. What a bunch of bullshiat. At least 75% of "deals" get canceled or modified to the detriment of the inventor.
2017-10-03 01:23:36 PM  
10 votes:
I'm very fond of the people who come on the show with no patents. And just expect these business people, not to mention the general public, not to just flat out steal their product/idea.
2017-10-03 07:30:39 PM  
7 votes:
I just want to say that I'd bang Lori Greiner like a screen door in a hurricane while Mr Wonderful called me a cockroach.
2017-10-03 01:32:11 PM  
6 votes:
I simply can't handle the sound and visual design of these shows.  Everything is designed specifically to annoy me.

Here's a dutch angle with a hard zoom followed by an ominous musical cue and a fast-pan cut to Mark Cuban.  Commercial!  Tense piano opens to the same shot of Mark Cuban, will we resolve the artificially created tension now that we're back?  NO!  HARD cut to the lady who never buys anything.  She asks questions.  Music continues to be tense but light.  ZOOM CUT TO THE CONTESTANTS!  Deep gong sound!  They answer the questions.  Lady says she's out.  Cut to the three men obviously working together to undercut the contestant rather than themselves.  Music is upbeat.  An actual offer gets made.  Another gong.  CUT TO CONTESTANTS!  "I'd like more than that please."  Ominous music ensues.

It's the cheapest, most manipulative and classless kind of editing imaginable.

I'd rather watch mid 2000s trash like Flavor of Love.  At least then, the editors were lying to us and manipulating our emotions in the interest of long form story telling.

Shark Tank is like watching a show that was edited by a computer algorithm inside a server farm.
2017-10-03 01:23:45 PM  
6 votes:
I watched part of an episode once.

It's basically a really, really lame version of The Gong Show.
2017-10-03 06:50:09 PM  
5 votes:

Fano: Incorrigible Astronaut: scottydoesntknow: Because it's basically an hour long infomercial. We enjoy it, but it's not Must See TV or something you talk about with coworkers.

Also, stop putting people/products on there that have no sales. Sharks almost never buy into it. And stop offering $5M for 3% of your company, especially when you only have $150 in revenue in 6 months. You know it's bullshiat and so do they.

The only ones that really get annoying to me are the Silicon Valley assholes that come in and use it as a free infomercial, like the guys that were pitching "life hack" sugar cubes for coffee asking for (Googles) $2 million for 5% last year. Stupid. 

I did take some perverse pleasure in watching Cuban bring the millenial to tears the other night.

Those can be pretty satisfying.


I love it when people come in selling snake oil supplements or magnetic vibrator toys or organic cat farts or something and Cuban looks disgusted and tells them before they finish their pitch that he is out. Then comes back later and tells them what he really feels about their perpetual stupidity machines.
2017-10-03 01:38:44 PM  
4 votes:
Just because it's popular doesn't mean it is interesting.
2017-10-03 01:37:10 PM  
4 votes:

Gubbo: I'm very fond of the people who come on the show with no patents. And just expect these business people, not to mention the general public, not to just flat out steal their product/idea.


on the very slim chance you aren't trolling you get a couple years to file for a patent and being on national television with your idea would be pretty good proof that you were the inventor.
2017-10-03 12:41:21 PM  
4 votes:

scottydoesntknow: Because it's basically an hour long infomercial. We enjoy it, but it's not Must See TV or something you talk about with coworkers.

Also, stop putting people/products on there that have no sales. Sharks almost never buy into it. And stop offering $5M for 3% of your company, especially when you only have $150 in revenue in 6 months. You know it's bullshiat and so do they.


The only ones that really get annoying to me are the Silicon Valley assholes that come in and use it as a free infomercial, like the guys that were pitching "life hack" sugar cubes for coffee asking for (Googles) $2 million for 5% last year. Stupid. 

I did take some perverse pleasure in watching Cuban bring the millenial to tears the other night.
2017-10-03 12:28:30 PM  
4 votes:
Talk about what?
2017-10-03 10:08:14 PM  
3 votes:

BeesNuts: I simply can't handle the sound and visual design of these shows.  Everything is designed specifically to annoy me.

Here's a dutch angle with a hard zoom followed by an ominous musical cue and a fast-pan cut to Mark Cuban.  Commercial!  Tense piano opens to the same shot of Mark Cuban, will we resolve the artificially created tension now that we're back?  NO!  HARD cut to the lady who never buys anything.  She asks questions.  Music continues to be tense but light.  ZOOM CUT TO THE CONTESTANTS!  Deep gong sound!  They answer the questions.  Lady says she's out.  Cut to the three men obviously working together to undercut the contestant rather than themselves.  Music is upbeat.  An actual offer gets made.  Another gong.  CUT TO CONTESTANTS!  "I'd like more than that please."  Ominous music ensues.

It's the cheapest, most manipulative and classless kind of editing imaginable.

I'd rather watch mid 2000s trash like Flavor of Love.  At least then, the editors were lying to us and manipulating our emotions in the interest of long form story telling.

Shark Tank is like watching a show that was edited by a computer algorithm inside a server farm.


I have absolutely no idea what you do for a living, but I am absolutely sure you are perfectly suited to do it,
2017-10-03 07:12:23 PM  
3 votes:

idrow: Contrabulous Flabtraption: It's just like Big Bang Theory - millions watch but are too embarrassed to admit they love consuming actual garbage.

Translation: What you watch is garbage if I don't like it.

You do understand different people like different things, right?  Or are you just being edgy?


No, just stating a fact. It's scientifically provable that TBBT is trash.
2017-10-03 12:57:31 PM  
3 votes:
In the UK the show is called Dragon's Den.

Jeremy Clarkson in Dragons' Den
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2017-10-03 12:31:16 PM  
3 votes:
who?

/Seriously, it's one long new products commercial
//and I like to watch it myself, every now and then
2017-10-04 03:19:59 AM  
2 votes:

Persnickety: styckx: HotWingConspiracy: It's storage wars, but instead of cruddy storage lockers people are bidding on the ideas and livelihoods of people that hit that right note of hapless and greedy.

Unlike Storage Wars producers don't hide fake rating grabbing items in the Shark Tank.

No, but I do get the feeling that everything is very scripted and that any and all deals have been decided on before the cameras start rolling.  The "bidding" on shark tank is probably as real as the bidding on Storage Wars.  I would imagine that there's also a team of writers coming up with the zingers the sharks use to put the hopeful inventors in their place.


Can't stand Storage Wars.. A whole garage of shiat and magically everyone finds that ONE item that is worth thousands.

Take it for what it is: a show like Pawn Stars where you learn about unusual items.  After the finding that one weird thing, wouldntyaknow the buyer has a buddy nearby who happens to be an expert on that sort of thing and can tell us all about it.  Doesn't really matter whether it's worth $50 or $5000.  The buyers are all drawing a paycheck from the show anyway.

In other news: The American Pickers aren't making a living by driving three days and nights to nowheresville USA in order to make a $600 profit on all of four items.


Pawn shop shows are basically Antiques Roadshow for manly men who are afraid their manly male friends would call them gay.
2017-10-03 04:52:56 PM  
2 votes:

Contrabulous Flabtraption: It's just like Big Bang Theory - millions watch but are too embarrassed to admit they love consuming actual garbage.


Translation: What you watch is garbage if I don't like it.

You do understand different people like different things, right?  Or are you just being edgy?
2017-10-03 04:22:18 PM  
2 votes:
The most one ever talks about Shark Tank is when they're with their spouse in the store and you see something and are like, "Oh, hey! Remember when that was on Shark Tank and we really liked it? We should buy one."

And then you don't.
2017-10-03 04:03:47 PM  
2 votes:
The contestants are assholes.  The judges are assholes.

If I want to go see assholes interact I'll just go sit in traffic again for awhile.
2017-10-03 02:42:33 PM  
2 votes:
It's storage wars, but instead of cruddy storage lockers people are bidding on the ideas and livelihoods of people that hit that right note of hapless and greedy.
2017-10-03 02:06:37 PM  
2 votes:
Because...

INVENTOR: This product custom-tailors tuxedos for lemurs.
HYPE MAN: It's a fast-growing industry with unlimited potential for earnings! 😀
INVENTOR: It's a patented process. I spent 25 years developing the proprietary waist-measurement apparatus.
HYPE MAN: We're asking $7 million for 5%. So are you ready to swim up and take a deal? 😀

... is amusing only in small doses, but if you get enough "Meh, nothing else is on right now" viewers spread across the country, you'll get OK ratings.
2017-10-03 01:56:11 PM  
2 votes:

Plant Rights Activist: Gubbo: I'm very fond of the people who come on the show with no patents. And just expect these business people, not to mention the general public, not to just flat out steal their product/idea.

on the very slim chance you aren't trolling you get a couple years to file for a patent and being on national television with your idea would be pretty good proof that you were the inventor.


The US is now, like the rest of the world, "first to file". You can prove you invented it a decade ago if you want. But if I filed first the patent is mine. However if you've made it public, like going on TV for example, before filing then goodbye patent, You cannot patent something that's already been made public.

/Other IP, like copyright, trade mark etc, exists.
//Not a lawyer, not legal advice.
2017-10-03 01:28:42 PM  
2 votes:
I enjoy it, pitchmen on discovery could have been better but Billy Mays died.
2017-10-03 01:28:36 PM  
2 votes:

Gubbo: I'm very fond of the people who come on the show with no patents. And just expect these business people, not to mention the general public, not to just flat out steal their product/idea.


In Canada we have Dragon's Den (same show and some of the same cast). There was an awesome episode where some women came in pitching their all-female mechanics business. They called it 'Ms. Lube'. They pitched it to Jim Treliving, who is the owner of the Mr. Lube franchise chain. They hilariously thought they could ride his coattails to fame and fortune. After each of the Dragons utterly destroyed the women for their stupidity they came to Jim for his thoughts. He said he couldn't comment and they'd be hearing from his lawyers post-haste. /csb.
2017-10-04 01:42:54 PM  
1 vote:

Warrior Kermit: styckx: HotWingConspiracy: It's storage wars, but instead of cruddy storage lockers people are bidding on the ideas and livelihoods of people that hit that right note of hapless and greedy.

Unlike Storage Wars producers don't hide fake rating grabbing items in the Shark Tank.

Can't stand Storage Wars.. A whole garage of shiat and magically everyone finds that ONE item that is worth thousands.

I did a short stint at a storage company and we had those auctions, ain't nothing like storage wars, one room bags of clothes when for $2 she bought in hopes of maybe finding money in the pockets. I think the highest went for $500 had some furniture and appliances in it.   The military ones are better but it takes quite a while to let a unit rented by someone in the military to go. if they are overseas the unit is untouchable


I used to watch Storage Wars from time to time.  It kind of got ruined for me when my parents' storage company mistakenly sold their unit.  I wish I was kidding.  The company knew they had screwed up and paid them for what was in there, but there was a lot of irreplaceable stuff in that locker from 50+ years of life together.  My mother was devastated.

Somehow, I just don't enjoy that show as much any more.  I suppose I should take some comfort in the fact that it is totally fake, but I don't.
2017-10-04 04:51:16 AM  
1 vote:
Yet they rejected my idea for a show where people are half submerged in water and forcefed milk and honey. Whoever produces the most bubbles without befouling the water is the winner.

I call it Shart Tank.
2017-10-03 11:18:32 PM  
1 vote:
 As a small business guy and entrepreneurial dreamer I have binged on it a time or two on YouTube while puttering around the house.  Got into it for a while, went so far as to try and research how the show actually worked after the fact.  There are far worse shows to waste your time on, this one at least has an undercurrent of "follow your dreams" BS  that isn't entirely unneeded these days.  They certainly have the formula down pat: moron/whack job/good idea/crying wife/Sharkfight/where are they now?/hey, our left handed toilet seat comes in Mavs colors!/etc.
 TV junk food, to be sure, but  halfway interesting nonetheless.
/also agree with Lori/screen door comment above
2017-10-03 07:00:33 PM  
1 vote:
It is mindless and entertaining on a night when almost nothing else is on. Also, as someone who has tried to build a start-up and had to pitch to investors, it was a great lesson in what to do and what not to do. You could see how pitches are formulated etc. and what not to do. Company vs. product, proper protection and valuation etc. obviously not all there is to know about a good pitch obviously but it can help. It is also wish fulfillment. You see people building companies and becoming their own bosses. It is a fun, mindless reality tv show.
2017-10-03 05:34:40 PM  
1 vote:
Too many people go on that show without proper preparation.

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2017-10-03 04:28:38 PM  
1 vote:

styckx: HotWingConspiracy: It's storage wars, but instead of cruddy storage lockers people are bidding on the ideas and livelihoods of people that hit that right note of hapless and greedy.

Unlike Storage Wars producers don't hide fake rating grabbing items in the Shark Tank.


No, but I do get the feeling that everything is very scripted and that any and all deals have been decided on before the cameras start rolling.  The "bidding" on shark tank is probably as real as the bidding on Storage Wars.  I would imagine that there's also a team of writers coming up with the zingers the sharks use to put the hopeful inventors in their place.


Can't stand Storage Wars.. A whole garage of shiat and magically everyone finds that ONE item that is worth thousands.

Take it for what it is: a show like Pawn Stars where you learn about unusual items.  After the finding that one weird thing, wouldntyaknow the buyer has a buddy nearby who happens to be an expert on that sort of thing and can tell us all about it.  Doesn't really matter whether it's worth $50 or $5000.  The buyers are all drawing a paycheck from the show anyway.

In other news: The American Pickers aren't making a living by driving three days and nights to nowheresville USA in order to make a $600 profit on all of four items.
2017-10-03 04:20:09 PM  
1 vote:

The Silver Mullet: Gubbo: I'm very fond of the people who come on the show with no patents. And just expect these business people, not to mention the general public, not to just flat out steal their product/idea.

In Canada we have Dragon's Den (same show and some of the same cast). There was an awesome episode where some women came in pitching their all-female mechanics business. They called it 'Ms. Lube'. They pitched it to Jim Treliving, who is the owner of the Mr. Lube franchise chain. They hilariously thought they could ride his coattails to fame and fortune. After each of the Dragons utterly destroyed the women for their stupidity they came to Jim for his thoughts. He said he couldn't comment and they'd be hearing from his lawyers post-haste. /csb.


FTFA: "It is very representative of the machismo and the male chauvinism that exists in the trade, that they would want to do this to the very first all-female shop," Ms. Gilbank said.

Oh, fark YOU, lady. You don't get to blame men for this one, you stupid coont.
2017-10-03 04:15:09 PM  
1 vote:

styckx: HotWingConspiracy: It's storage wars, but instead of cruddy storage lockers people are bidding on the ideas and livelihoods of people that hit that right note of hapless and greedy.

Unlike Storage Wars producers don't hide fake rating grabbing items in the Shark Tank.

Can't stand Storage Wars.. A whole garage of shiat and magically everyone finds that ONE item that is worth thousands.


It's greed porn. I wonder how many poor saps pissed away all their cash trying to emulate that nonsense and ended up with a bunch of broken furniture and filthy laundry from the late 80s
2017-10-03 03:41:43 PM  
1 vote:

styckx: HotWingConspiracy: It's storage wars, but instead of cruddy storage lockers people are bidding on the ideas and livelihoods of people that hit that right note of hapless and greedy.

Unlike Storage Wars producers don't hide fake rating grabbing items in the Shark Tank.

Can't stand Storage Wars.. A whole garage of shiat and magically everyone finds that ONE item that is worth thousands.


I did a short stint at a storage company and we had those auctions, ain't nothing like storage wars, one room bags of clothes when for $2 she bought in hopes of maybe finding money in the pockets. I think the highest went for $500 had some furniture and appliances in it.   The military ones are better but it takes quite a while to let a unit rented by someone in the military to go. if they are overseas the unit is untouchable
2017-10-03 03:18:44 PM  
1 vote:

HotWingConspiracy: It's storage wars, but instead of cruddy storage lockers people are bidding on the ideas and livelihoods of people that hit that right note of hapless and greedy.


Unlike Storage Wars producers don't hide fake rating grabbing items in the Shark Tank.

Can't stand Storage Wars.. A whole garage of shiat and magically everyone finds that ONE item that is worth thousands.
2017-10-03 02:41:35 PM  
1 vote:
I like the show but I take it for what it is and not some great example of a divided America.  I always wonder how many deals really get done after all the due diligence and the contracts are drawn.  I also wonder how many are done but end in failure as they naturally like to tout the success stories.  the article claims the businesses have created 10,000 jobs since ST first aired.  That's fine, especially if you have one of those jobs, but in reality one big layoff, factory closing, or major bankruptcy costs that many jobs in one fell swoop.  They should consider a show on corporate mergers and watch the job losses.
2017-10-03 02:09:42 PM  
1 vote:

The Silver Mullet: Gubbo: I'm very fond of the people who come on the show with no patents. And just expect these business people, not to mention the general public, not to just flat out steal their product/idea.

In Canada we have Dragon's Den (same show and some of the same cast). There was an awesome episode where some women came in pitching their all-female mechanics business. They called it 'Ms. Lube'. They pitched it to Jim Treliving, who is the owner of the Mr. Lube franchise chain. They hilariously thought they could ride his coattails to fame and fortune. After each of the Dragons utterly destroyed the women for their stupidity they came to Jim for his thoughts. He said he couldn't comment and they'd be hearing from his lawyers post-haste. /csb.


I quit watching DD because too many delusional idiots with no sense of company valuation or a realistic business plan, or an obviously lame product or service were allowed to pitch, and I'd be shouting at them as I do ignoramuses on Jeopardy. I know it's all about the show but I don't need it. The Ms Lube episode was another of those moments.
2017-10-03 02:04:57 PM  
1 vote:
THE FIRST RULE OF SHARK FIGHT CLUB IS THAT YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT SHARK FIGHT CLUB!
2017-10-03 02:02:38 PM  
1 vote:
 I've had conversations about products I would but or that I think are dumb as fark.
I'm wearing a mission belt right now and I probably won't buy another regular belt. I own 2 and both my brother and father swear by them now.

The smiley face sponge disintegrated awfully quickly.
2017-10-03 02:01:32 PM  
1 vote:

Lando Lincoln: A bunch of fabulously wealthy people sitting around, watching people with ideas, skill and talent come to them with some brilliant ideas, and then the wealthy people haggle with the talented people over the sale of their inventions, so that the wealthy people can become even more wealthy on the backs of others.

Yeah, gee, I don't know why I don't watch it more often.


Also a bunch of talented people who need funding from wealthy people so they can actually make their products and sell them consumers so they can become wealthy?
2017-10-03 01:58:20 PM  
1 vote:
Perhaps because there's nothing to say about it other than 'it's on TV'.  There are no storylines or characters, so what exactly is it that people would have to say about it?
2017-10-03 01:52:14 PM  
1 vote:

BeesNuts: TNel: I haven't watched Shark Tank since Season 1 and then I could only watch a little bit.  How can it possibly be one of the most popular.

TV is becoming more prevalent in offices than homes.  The TV in homes is becoming much blurrier with content options.  TV in offices is really just meant for background noise.  TV in offices have like 4 channels and ABC usually makes an appearance.

I have a feeling that half the viewership isn't actually watching it at all.  It's just on.


Has to be, there's too many great things to watch on Netflix and others that I don't know how anyone can find the time to watch a mundane show like this.
2017-10-03 01:51:46 PM  
1 vote:
Just because people leave the tv on after Wheel of Fortune doesn't mean they're watching whatever's on it.
2017-10-03 01:49:31 PM  
1 vote:
Coastal elites?  Fark me, so sick of that.  How about people talk about Twin Peaks because it's a show with weird stuff people want to dissect regardless of whether it's good or has huge ratings.  Shark Tank?  I watch it, I'm Coastal, elite in some circles (mainly the Star Wars miniature club at my comic shop) but what's to farking talk about?  Did one of judges bring out a random piece of cherry pie right when a contestant was showing their new, improved soppy cup?  No, and glad they didn't,  it's just an interesting , straight forward show devoid of large teleporting Bull Dogs.  Nothing to talk about, just a show to watch.

And if we're Coastal Elites does that make everyone else interior trash?  No, so shut the fark up with your Right Wing cultural eltism bantering.
2017-10-03 01:49:29 PM  
1 vote:

TNel: I haven't watched Shark Tank since Season 1 and then I could only watch a little bit.  How can it possibly be one of the most popular.


TV is becoming more prevalent in offices than homes.  The TV in homes is becoming much blurrier with content options.  TV in offices is really just meant for background noise.  TV in offices have like 4 channels and ABC usually makes an appearance.

I have a feeling that half the viewership isn't actually watching it at all.  It's just on.
2017-10-03 01:40:01 PM  
1 vote:
Of course they HAD to make it into a "leftist coastal elites" VS "true Americans from the heartland" thing.

farkers.
2017-10-03 01:37:44 PM  
1 vote:
BeesNuts: I simply can't handle the sound and visual design of these shows. Everything is designed specifically to annoy me.

Yep. It's atrocious and incompetent. It's meant to serve a specific purpose that, in a better production, would be achieved through content rather than 'style'.

Replacing content with the suggestion of content is called Floyding, and it's embarrassingly bad. Every jump-scare in a horror film that has no actual creative content, every blurry jump-cut shaky-cam action scene that should have had actual choreography and camerawork, every hackneyed moment of syrup bolstered by absurd background music instead of actual drama -- that's Floyding.

And it's crap. But it's cheap and easy, whereas actual content takes some work.
 
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