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(NYPost)   Shark Tank is one of the most popular shows on TV year in and year out despite being in one of the worst time slots. So... why doesn't anyone talk about it?   ( nypost.com) divider line
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2017-10-03 12:28:30 PM  
Talk about what?
 
2017-10-03 12:31:16 PM  
who?

/Seriously, it's one long new products commercial
//and I like to watch it myself, every now and then
 
2017-10-03 12:33:53 PM  
Because it's basically an hour long infomercial. We enjoy it, but it's not Must See TV or something you talk about with coworkers.

Also, stop putting people/products on there that have no sales. Sharks almost never buy into it. And stop offering $5M for 3% of your company, especially when you only have $150 in revenue in 6 months. You know it's bullshiat and so do they.
 
2017-10-03 12:35:19 PM  
A bunch of fabulously wealthy people sitting around, watching people with ideas, skill and talent come to them with some brilliant ideas, and then the wealthy people haggle with the talented people over the sale of their inventions, so that the wealthy people can become even more wealthy on the backs of others.

Yeah, gee, I don't know why I don't watch it more often.
 
2017-10-03 12:41:21 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Because it's basically an hour long infomercial. We enjoy it, but it's not Must See TV or something you talk about with coworkers.

Also, stop putting people/products on there that have no sales. Sharks almost never buy into it. And stop offering $5M for 3% of your company, especially when you only have $150 in revenue in 6 months. You know it's bullshiat and so do they.


The only ones that really get annoying to me are the Silicon Valley assholes that come in and use it as a free infomercial, like the guys that were pitching "life hack" sugar cubes for coffee asking for (Googles) $2 million for 5% last year. Stupid. 

I did take some perverse pleasure in watching Cuban bring the millenial to tears the other night.
 
2017-10-03 12:44:38 PM  
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2017-10-03 12:57:31 PM  
In the UK the show is called Dragon's Den.

Jeremy Clarkson in Dragons' Den
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2017-10-03 01:23:34 PM  

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2017-10-03 01:23:36 PM  
I'm very fond of the people who come on the show with no patents. And just expect these business people, not to mention the general public, not to just flat out steal their product/idea.
 
2017-10-03 01:23:45 PM  
I watched part of an episode once.

It's basically a really, really lame version of The Gong Show.
 
2017-10-03 01:28:36 PM  

Gubbo: I'm very fond of the people who come on the show with no patents. And just expect these business people, not to mention the general public, not to just flat out steal their product/idea.


In Canada we have Dragon's Den (same show and some of the same cast). There was an awesome episode where some women came in pitching their all-female mechanics business. They called it 'Ms. Lube'. They pitched it to Jim Treliving, who is the owner of the Mr. Lube franchise chain. They hilariously thought they could ride his coattails to fame and fortune. After each of the Dragons utterly destroyed the women for their stupidity they came to Jim for his thoughts. He said he couldn't comment and they'd be hearing from his lawyers post-haste. /csb.
 
2017-10-03 01:28:42 PM  
I enjoy it, pitchmen on discovery could have been better but Billy Mays died.
 
2017-10-03 01:32:11 PM  
I simply can't handle the sound and visual design of these shows.  Everything is designed specifically to annoy me.

Here's a dutch angle with a hard zoom followed by an ominous musical cue and a fast-pan cut to Mark Cuban.  Commercial!  Tense piano opens to the same shot of Mark Cuban, will we resolve the artificially created tension now that we're back?  NO!  HARD cut to the lady who never buys anything.  She asks questions.  Music continues to be tense but light.  ZOOM CUT TO THE CONTESTANTS!  Deep gong sound!  They answer the questions.  Lady says she's out.  Cut to the three men obviously working together to undercut the contestant rather than themselves.  Music is upbeat.  An actual offer gets made.  Another gong.  CUT TO CONTESTANTS!  "I'd like more than that please."  Ominous music ensues.

It's the cheapest, most manipulative and classless kind of editing imaginable.

I'd rather watch mid 2000s trash like Flavor of Love.  At least then, the editors were lying to us and manipulating our emotions in the interest of long form story telling.

Shark Tank is like watching a show that was edited by a computer algorithm inside a server farm.
 
2017-10-03 01:34:18 PM  
I helped a client get a top-10 $ offer in ST history...yeah, then we got a look at their contract terms beyond the fake offer. What a bunch of bullshiat. At least 75% of "deals" get canceled or modified to the detriment of the inventor.
 
2017-10-03 01:37:10 PM  

Gubbo: I'm very fond of the people who come on the show with no patents. And just expect these business people, not to mention the general public, not to just flat out steal their product/idea.


on the very slim chance you aren't trolling you get a couple years to file for a patent and being on national television with your idea would be pretty good proof that you were the inventor.
 
2017-10-03 01:37:44 PM  
BeesNuts: I simply can't handle the sound and visual design of these shows. Everything is designed specifically to annoy me.

Yep. It's atrocious and incompetent. It's meant to serve a specific purpose that, in a better production, would be achieved through content rather than 'style'.

Replacing content with the suggestion of content is called Floyding, and it's embarrassingly bad. Every jump-scare in a horror film that has no actual creative content, every blurry jump-cut shaky-cam action scene that should have had actual choreography and camerawork, every hackneyed moment of syrup bolstered by absurd background music instead of actual drama -- that's Floyding.

And it's crap. But it's cheap and easy, whereas actual content takes some work.
 
2017-10-03 01:37:54 PM  
This pretty much expresses how these shows look and feel to me.

That Mitchell and Webb Look - Gift Shop Sketch I'm looking for a gift for my aunt
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2017-10-03 01:38:44 PM  
Just because it's popular doesn't mean it is interesting.
 
2017-10-03 01:40:01 PM  
Of course they HAD to make it into a "leftist coastal elites" VS "true Americans from the heartland" thing.

farkers.
 
2017-10-03 01:43:05 PM  
I haven't watched Shark Tank since Season 1 and then I could only watch a little bit.  How can it possibly be one of the most popular.
 
2017-10-03 01:48:48 PM  
Because we turn down the volume and make fun of everyone. I saw one guy pitching an air hardening presoaked fiberglass tape I had used circa 2000 as a new miracle product. The problem was, and is, you need gloves to handle the thing. If he'd made it skin safe or packed the gloves with the product, he'd have something new.

I need to spend some time on Alibaba. There's a novelty I want, but I think I could get a thousand people to join in on buying a pallet or two of them. Gogo kickstart financing.
 
2017-10-03 01:49:29 PM  

TNel: I haven't watched Shark Tank since Season 1 and then I could only watch a little bit.  How can it possibly be one of the most popular.


TV is becoming more prevalent in offices than homes.  The TV in homes is becoming much blurrier with content options.  TV in offices is really just meant for background noise.  TV in offices have like 4 channels and ABC usually makes an appearance.

I have a feeling that half the viewership isn't actually watching it at all.  It's just on.
 
2017-10-03 01:49:31 PM  
Coastal elites?  Fark me, so sick of that.  How about people talk about Twin Peaks because it's a show with weird stuff people want to dissect regardless of whether it's good or has huge ratings.  Shark Tank?  I watch it, I'm Coastal, elite in some circles (mainly the Star Wars miniature club at my comic shop) but what's to farking talk about?  Did one of judges bring out a random piece of cherry pie right when a contestant was showing their new, improved soppy cup?  No, and glad they didn't,  it's just an interesting , straight forward show devoid of large teleporting Bull Dogs.  Nothing to talk about, just a show to watch.

And if we're Coastal Elites does that make everyone else interior trash?  No, so shut the fark up with your Right Wing cultural eltism bantering.
 
2017-10-03 01:51:46 PM  
Just because people leave the tv on after Wheel of Fortune doesn't mean they're watching whatever's on it.
 
2017-10-03 01:51:58 PM  
My mother watches religiously, and she also loved the various shopping channels.
 
2017-10-03 01:52:14 PM  

BeesNuts: TNel: I haven't watched Shark Tank since Season 1 and then I could only watch a little bit.  How can it possibly be one of the most popular.

TV is becoming more prevalent in offices than homes.  The TV in homes is becoming much blurrier with content options.  TV in offices is really just meant for background noise.  TV in offices have like 4 channels and ABC usually makes an appearance.

I have a feeling that half the viewership isn't actually watching it at all.  It's just on.


Has to be, there's too many great things to watch on Netflix and others that I don't know how anyone can find the time to watch a mundane show like this.
 
2017-10-03 01:55:09 PM  

TNel: BeesNuts: TNel: I haven't watched Shark Tank since Season 1 and then I could only watch a little bit.  How can it possibly be one of the most popular.

TV is becoming more prevalent in offices than homes.  The TV in homes is becoming much blurrier with content options.  TV in offices is really just meant for background noise.  TV in offices have like 4 channels and ABC usually makes an appearance.

I have a feeling that half the viewership isn't actually watching it at all.  It's just on.

Has to be, there's too many great things to watch on Netflix and others that I don't know how anyone can find the time to watch a mundane show like this.


Exactly.  When I want to watch tv, I WATCH tv.  I deliberately pick a thing and I actually sit down and watch it.  But I, like many others, tend to just sort of passively leave the TV on even when I'm not really watching it.  This isn't a good habit.  But it's real.  And prevalent.
 
2017-10-03 01:56:11 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: Gubbo: I'm very fond of the people who come on the show with no patents. And just expect these business people, not to mention the general public, not to just flat out steal their product/idea.

on the very slim chance you aren't trolling you get a couple years to file for a patent and being on national television with your idea would be pretty good proof that you were the inventor.


The US is now, like the rest of the world, "first to file". You can prove you invented it a decade ago if you want. But if I filed first the patent is mine. However if you've made it public, like going on TV for example, before filing then goodbye patent, You cannot patent something that's already been made public.

/Other IP, like copyright, trade mark etc, exists.
//Not a lawyer, not legal advice.
 
2017-10-03 01:56:26 PM  
It's always playing at the gym when I get there after work, ~5;30ish.  If it weren't for that I would have never heard of it.
 
2017-10-03 01:58:20 PM  
Perhaps because there's nothing to say about it other than 'it's on TV'.  There are no storylines or characters, so what exactly is it that people would have to say about it?
 
2017-10-03 02:01:32 PM  

Lando Lincoln: A bunch of fabulously wealthy people sitting around, watching people with ideas, skill and talent come to them with some brilliant ideas, and then the wealthy people haggle with the talented people over the sale of their inventions, so that the wealthy people can become even more wealthy on the backs of others.

Yeah, gee, I don't know why I don't watch it more often.


Also a bunch of talented people who need funding from wealthy people so they can actually make their products and sell them consumers so they can become wealthy?
 
2017-10-03 02:02:38 PM  
 I've had conversations about products I would but or that I think are dumb as fark.
I'm wearing a mission belt right now and I probably won't buy another regular belt. I own 2 and both my brother and father swear by them now.

The smiley face sponge disintegrated awfully quickly.
 
2017-10-03 02:03:36 PM  

wildcardjack: Because we turn down the volume and make fun of everyone. I saw one guy pitching an air hardening presoaked fiberglass tape I had used circa 2000 as a new miracle product. The problem was, and is, you need gloves to handle the thing. If he'd made it skin safe or packed the gloves with the product, he'd have something new.


No he wouldn't. Not without going back in time and inventing fiber flex, which not only says you should be fine with bare hands but also packages gloves just in case.
 
2017-10-03 02:04:57 PM  
THE FIRST RULE OF SHARK FIGHT CLUB IS THAT YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT SHARK FIGHT CLUB!
 
2017-10-03 02:06:37 PM  
Because...

INVENTOR: This product custom-tailors tuxedos for lemurs.
HYPE MAN: It's a fast-growing industry with unlimited potential for earnings! 😀
INVENTOR: It's a patented process. I spent 25 years developing the proprietary waist-measurement apparatus.
HYPE MAN: We're asking $7 million for 5%. So are you ready to swim up and take a deal? 😀

... is amusing only in small doses, but if you get enough "Meh, nothing else is on right now" viewers spread across the country, you'll get OK ratings.
 
2017-10-03 02:09:42 PM  

The Silver Mullet: Gubbo: I'm very fond of the people who come on the show with no patents. And just expect these business people, not to mention the general public, not to just flat out steal their product/idea.

In Canada we have Dragon's Den (same show and some of the same cast). There was an awesome episode where some women came in pitching their all-female mechanics business. They called it 'Ms. Lube'. They pitched it to Jim Treliving, who is the owner of the Mr. Lube franchise chain. They hilariously thought they could ride his coattails to fame and fortune. After each of the Dragons utterly destroyed the women for their stupidity they came to Jim for his thoughts. He said he couldn't comment and they'd be hearing from his lawyers post-haste. /csb.


I quit watching DD because too many delusional idiots with no sense of company valuation or a realistic business plan, or an obviously lame product or service were allowed to pitch, and I'd be shouting at them as I do ignoramuses on Jeopardy. I know it's all about the show but I don't need it. The Ms Lube episode was another of those moments.
 
2017-10-03 02:10:46 PM  
Never seen it, barely heard of it, but then I can go weeks without watching any live TV.

/I was just finishing up the 2nd season of Daredevil at my computer.
 
2017-10-03 02:10:48 PM  

cefm: Perhaps because there's nothing to say about it other than 'it's on TV'.  There are no storylines or characters, so what exactly is it that people would have to say about it?


I had a pro bono client who went on Shark Tank.
And... well, yeah. That's about all I can say.
 
2017-10-03 02:14:30 PM  
"Popular TV show" =  "Top-selling landline phone"
 
2017-10-03 02:15:43 PM  

BKITU: Because...

INVENTOR: This product custom-tailors tuxedos for lemurs.
HYPE MAN: It's a fast-growing industry with unlimited potential for earnings! 😀
INVENTOR: It's a patented process. I spent 25 years developing the proprietary waist-measurement apparatus.
HYPE MAN: We're asking $7 million for 5%. So are you ready to swim up and take a deal? 😀

... is amusing only in small doses, but if you get enough "Meh, nothing else is on right now" viewers spread across the country, you'll get OK ratings.


You forgot the words "disrupt the market."
 
2017-10-03 02:21:22 PM  

BowtoMogul: I've had conversations about products I would but or that I think are dumb as fark.
I'm wearing a mission belt right now and I probably won't buy another regular belt. I own 2 and both my brother and father swear by them now.

The smiley face sponge disintegrated awfully quickly.


Googled the mission belt, based on your recommendation.  I like the idea, but am seriously put off at how they don't tell you what kind of leather they're using. I'm guessing it's stamped "genuine leather?"
 
2017-10-03 02:26:32 PM  
Because repeats suck.

They need to have more episodes. It would help the economy and retain viewership.

I want to see new tears not repeat tears.
 
2017-10-03 02:41:08 PM  

Where wolf: BowtoMogul: I've had conversations about products I would but or that I think are dumb as fark.
I'm wearing a mission belt right now and I probably won't buy another regular belt. I own 2 and both my brother and father swear by them now.

The smiley face sponge disintegrated awfully quickly.

Googled the mission belt, based on your recommendation.  I like the idea, but am seriously put off at how they don't tell you what kind of leather they're using. I'm guessing it's stamped "genuine leather?"


I have one too, I believe it is stamped genuine leather but I'm not taking it off in my cube to check. ;)

I'm pretty happy with it, but if you look around there are now other belts that use similar clasping systems.

Is something wrong with "genuine leather?"
 
2017-10-03 02:41:35 PM  
I like the show but I take it for what it is and not some great example of a divided America.  I always wonder how many deals really get done after all the due diligence and the contracts are drawn.  I also wonder how many are done but end in failure as they naturally like to tout the success stories.  the article claims the businesses have created 10,000 jobs since ST first aired.  That's fine, especially if you have one of those jobs, but in reality one big layoff, factory closing, or major bankruptcy costs that many jobs in one fell swoop.  They should consider a show on corporate mergers and watch the job losses.
 
2017-10-03 02:42:33 PM  
It's storage wars, but instead of cruddy storage lockers people are bidding on the ideas and livelihoods of people that hit that right note of hapless and greedy.
 
2017-10-03 02:45:13 PM  

Telos: Is something wrong with "genuine leather?"


Leather is a generic term that should make you stop and really look at the product.

https://bellatory.com/clothing/GENUINE-LEATHER
 
2017-10-03 02:51:11 PM  

Telos: Where wolf: BowtoMogul: I've had conversations about products I would but or that I think are dumb as fark.
I'm wearing a mission belt right now and I probably won't buy another regular belt. I own 2 and both my brother and father swear by them now.

The smiley face sponge disintegrated awfully quickly.

Googled the mission belt, based on your recommendation.  I like the idea, but am seriously put off at how they don't tell you what kind of leather they're using. I'm guessing it's stamped "genuine leather?"

I have one too, I believe it is stamped genuine leather but I'm not taking it off in my cube to check. ;)

I'm pretty happy with it, but if you look around there are now other belts that use similar clasping systems.

Is something wrong with "genuine leather?"


The belt buckle of my old RAF uniform was far simpler and I use the same type today.
EBay link.
They use webbing, though I see no reason they wouldn't work just as well with leather, adjust to any length, can be easily fitted to new webbing in seconds with no tools and only cost a few pounds.
 
2017-10-03 02:51:40 PM  

Telos: Where wolf: BowtoMogul: I've had conversations about products I would but or that I think are dumb as fark.
I'm wearing a mission belt right now and I probably won't buy another regular belt. I own 2 and both my brother and father swear by them now.

The smiley face sponge disintegrated awfully quickly.

Googled the mission belt, based on your recommendation.  I like the idea, but am seriously put off at how they don't tell you what kind of leather they're using. I'm guessing it's stamped "genuine leather?"

I have one too, I believe it is stamped genuine leather but I'm not taking it off in my cube to check. ;)

I'm pretty happy with it, but if you look around there are now other belts that use similar clasping systems.

Is something wrong with "genuine leather?"


I'm not at a place where I can check but what have you got against Genuine?
Ginuwine - Pony
Youtube lbnoG2dsUk0
 
2017-10-03 02:53:14 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Telos: Where wolf: BowtoMogul: I've had conversations about products I would but or that I think are dumb as fark.
I'm wearing a mission belt right now and I probably won't buy another regular belt. I own 2 and both my brother and father swear by them now.

The smiley face sponge disintegrated awfully quickly.

Googled the mission belt, based on your recommendation.  I like the idea, but am seriously put off at how they don't tell you what kind of leather they're using. I'm guessing it's stamped "genuine leather?"

I have one too, I believe it is stamped genuine leather but I'm not taking it off in my cube to check. ;)

I'm pretty happy with it, but if you look around there are now other belts that use similar clasping systems.

Is something wrong with "genuine leather?"

The belt buckle of my old RAF uniform was far simpler and I use the same type today.
EBay link.
They use webbing, though I see no reason they wouldn't work just as well with leather, adjust to any length, can be easily fitted to new webbing in seconds with no tools and only cost a few pounds.


 I've had lots of people point this out or something similar.
Fine, but where can I buy one?
 
2017-10-03 03:10:04 PM  
It's just like Big Bang Theory - millions watch but are too embarrassed to admit they love consuming actual garbage.
 
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