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2017-10-03 03:27:39 PM  
"Not meow, i want it to be purrfect."
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2017-10-03 03:34:55 PM  

End_Of_Line: YodaBlues: End_Of_Line: exparrot: "A kiss can be even deadlier if you mean it."

Best Batman movie of all time, ever.

Counterpoint: Penguin Army.
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I never said that there were not low points.

Still awesome. YMMV


Great Tim Burton film.

Horrible Batman Film.

Best way to enjoy it, slap an Elseworld logo on it and enjoy it for what it is.
 
2017-10-03 03:36:07 PM  
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2017-10-03 04:07:23 PM  

Flappyhead: billygeek: Imagine the BATchelor party!!!

BOOM!!!

Was it DC where the groom to be found out his fiancee was a former porn star at his bachelor party?


No, that was Incredible Hulk #417, when Hulk threw a bachelor party for Rick Jones, and the stag film they wound up showing starred Rick's soon to be wife, Marlo.

Of course, Marlo started out in the book nailing the Grey Hulk in Vegas, so there were already issues there.

Then later, she left Rick and lezzed out with Moonstone for a while.

The Hulk/Captain  Marvel books sort of went to hell around that time and I can't tell you what happened after 2006ish.

As for Catwoman and Batman? God, DC is sad and pathetic.
 
2017-10-03 04:11:18 PM  

LucasLuminaro: Nevermind that.. Imagine their children?   Good looking, half bat/half cat - world class burglar/detective with a fortune inheritance, a knack for gadgetry, and ninja skills?   Unstoppable!


Licking their balls with one leg in the air?  No thanks.
 
2017-10-03 04:54:28 PM  

Myrdinn: ...wait, last time that happened, we ended up with both of them dead and Huntress, right?


That was, what, a pre-COIE's generation ago?
 
2017-10-03 04:56:43 PM  

wildcardjack: This is why Superman can only bang Wonder Woman

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Really?  Last time I checked Lois was just fine and they had a kid together so...
 
2017-10-03 04:58:10 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Fourth: it's doomed because it's happening in the middle of Tom Kings story arc. If it was happening near the end, then yeah. But story structure gives you the biggest clue.


I hope you're wrong. I know this might out me as a softie, but I think Bruce should keep it together with Selena. In fact, that was the part of Hush that angered me so much that they had to have Bruce cut off their relationship when it seemed like it might be going somewhere.

Really it makes him a more interesting and compelling character, just as having a normal wife and super-kid has made Superman much more interesting. Hell, Batman has had everything but a wife: adoptive kids, mentees, a kid, "partners," enemies, etc.

For example, even though Clark is quite literally Superman, sometimes there's things that a megaton punch or steel skin won't solve. There's times that he has to trust that Jon will do the right thing. And its rewarding as a reader to watch Superman's faith in his son get rewarded, even as at times Jon stumbles. (You remember that time he vaporized the cat? Holy shnikeys!)

Just as I hope that Bruce will discover, sometimes there's things you can't Xanatos Gambit your way out of.

/Plus I find Damian irritating, so I hope he gets a little sister that can kick his petulant ass.
 
2017-10-03 05:00:06 PM  

imashark: Darth_Lukecash: Fourth: it's doomed because it's happening in the middle of Tom Kings story arc. If it was happening near the end, then yeah. But story structure gives you the biggest clue.

I hope you're wrong. I know this might out me as a softie, but I think Bruce should keep it together with Selena. In fact, that was the part of Hush that angered me so much that they had to have Bruce cut off their relationship when it seemed like it might be going somewhere.

Really it makes him a more interesting and compelling character, just as having a normal wife and super-kid has made Superman much more interesting. Hell, Batman has had everything but a wife: adoptive kids, mentees, a kid, "partners," enemies, etc.

For example, even though Clark is quite literally Superman, sometimes there's things that a megaton punch or steel skin won't solve. There's times that he has to trust that Jon will do the right thing. And its rewarding as a reader to watch Superman's faith in his son get rewarded, even as at times Jon stumbles. (You remember that time he vaporized the cat? Holy shnikeys!)

Just as I hope that Bruce will discover, sometimes there's things you can't Xanatos Gambit your way out of.

/Plus I find Damian irritating, so I hope he gets a little sister that can kick his petulant ass.


Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".
 
2017-10-03 05:06:16 PM  

Mugato: They could double date with The Joker and Harley Quinn. Like a temporary truce. The Joker knows Batman's identity, doesn't he?


Joker and Harley Quinn have been on the outs for a really really long time.
 
2017-10-03 05:07:39 PM  

Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".


Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.
 
2017-10-03 05:13:07 PM  

Rwa2play: Myrdinn: ...wait, last time that happened, we ended up with both of them dead and Huntress, right?

That was, what, a pre-COIE's generation ago?


I think I was one at the time, so, yeah, about right ;-)
1977ish?
There might be an earlier version.
 
2017-10-03 05:13:58 PM  

imashark: Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".

Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.


And to top it all off they could have had a much, MUCH better ending.  Peter lets Aunt May die, cutting the last line to his pre-Spiderman days and now Mary Jane is his only grounding mechanism.  He has to take those last few painful steps into true adulthood almost completely on his own.  That's a lot of ground to till if you do it right.
 
2017-10-03 05:18:29 PM  

imashark: Darth_Lukecash: Fourth: it's doomed because it's happening in the middle of Tom Kings story arc. If it was happening near the end, then yeah. But story structure gives you the biggest clue.

I hope you're wrong. I know this might out me as a softie, but I think Bruce should keep it together with Selena. In fact, that was the part of Hush that angered me so much that they had to have Bruce cut off their relationship when it seemed like it might be going somewhere.

Really it makes him a more interesting and compelling character, just as having a normal wife and super-kid has made Superman much more interesting. Hell, Batman has had everything but a wife: adoptive kids, mentees, a kid, "partners," enemies, etc.

For example, even though Clark is quite literally Superman, sometimes there's things that a megaton punch or steel skin won't solve. There's times that he has to trust that Jon will do the right thing. And its rewarding as a reader to watch Superman's faith in his son get rewarded, even as at times Jon stumbles. (You remember that time he vaporized the cat? Holy shnikeys!)

Just as I hope that Bruce will discover, sometimes there's things you can't Xanatos Gambit your way out of.

/Plus I find Damian irritating, so I hope he gets a little sister that can kick his petulant ass.


Oh I don't disagree.

But friend of mine thought that their relationship was very French. They loved each other, meet and have passionate sex, but the would never cage each other. Batman is always going to put Gotham first, and Catwoman values her independence far too much.

There have been great runs of Batman/Cateoman romance: The story of how the Golden Age Batmsn and Catwoman finally hooked up, Hush, (include the build up of the Long Dark Holloween Stories) Doug Moenich run in Barman, (pre-Dark Knight era), The Dark Knight Rises movie, and the Worlds' Finest Run in (Huntrest/Powergirl book and the flashbacks)

Personally, I'd love it if they became a Nick and Nora "Thin Man" type couple, throwing witty remarks between themselves and sarcastic barbs at the bad guys.
 
2017-10-03 05:20:12 PM  

imashark: Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".

Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.


Of course, Marvel being Marvel, they have "Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows" where Pete/MJ have a kid together and they'll all fighting crime..together.
 
2017-10-03 05:20:44 PM  

Flappyhead: imashark: Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".

Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.

And to top it all off they could have had a much, MUCH better ending.  Peter lets Aunt May die, cutting the last line to his pre-Spiderman days and now Mary Jane is his only grounding mechanism.  He has to take those last few painful steps into true adulthood almost completely on his own.  That's a lot of ground to till if you do it right.


You know, I got over One More Day. But when that talentless farking hack Dan Slott went and destroyed Spider-Girl and whacked the successfully and happily married Peter and Mary Jane just for lame shock value in one of his shiatty "event" crossovers, that was about the time I abandoned Marvel altogether.

Of course, they had their own Crisis on Infinite Earths shortly after and made a great stopping point, so it was all good.

/Spidey couldn't be married because Joey Q is another "professional" fanboy like Geoff Johns who can't fathom a character can be anything other than what he read in the 1970s when he was sitting around in his underoos.
 
2017-10-03 05:22:33 PM  

Flappyhead: imashark: Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".

Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.

And to top it all off they could have had a much, MUCH better ending.  Peter lets Aunt May die, cutting the last line to his pre-Spiderman days and now Mary Jane is his only grounding mechanism.  He has to take those last few painful steps into true adulthood almost completely on his own.  That's a lot of ground to till if you do it right.


There's so many directions that Marvel could take to make their stories hella interesting and grounding.  Yet we're still watching a universe where Spidey's single (again), the X-men are hunted (again), and they can't tell a good Dr. Strange story if it killed them.
 
2017-10-03 05:24:07 PM  

Myrdinn: Rwa2play: Myrdinn: ...wait, last time that happened, we ended up with both of them dead and Huntress, right?

That was, what, a pre-COIE's generation ago?

I think I was one at the time, so, yeah, about right ;-)
1977ish?
There might be an earlier version.


Yup. Early 1970s actually.  When DC started doing an Earth 2 book based on the Justice Society. These were done to keep trademarks and copyrights, and allow up and coming fanboys turned writers a blank slate to experiment.

It's where Power Girl and Huntress came from.
 
2017-10-03 05:24:36 PM  

Rwa2play: Flappyhead: imashark: Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".

Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.

And to top it all off they could have had a much, MUCH better ending.  Peter lets Aunt May die, cutting the last line to his pre-Spiderman days and now Mary Jane is his only grounding mechanism.  He has to take those last few painful steps into true adulthood almost completely on his own.  That's a lot of ground to till if you do it right.

There's so many directions that Marvel could take to make their stories hella interesting and grounding.  Yet we're still watching a universe where Spidey's single (again), the X-men are hunted (again), and they can't tell a good Dr. Strange story if it killed them.


And a character either has to be disgraced and replaced by a multicultural multiethnic dartboard choice Mary Sue, or the replacement has to be replaced by the original old white guy because sales dropped like a rock... depending upon which week this is.
 
2017-10-03 05:31:38 PM  

ElectricPeterTork: Flappyhead: imashark: Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".

Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.

And to top it all off they could have had a much, MUCH better ending.  Peter lets Aunt May die, cutting the last line to his pre-Spiderman days and now Mary Jane is his only grounding mechanism.  He has to take those last few painful steps into true adulthood almost completely on his own.  That's a lot of ground to till if you do it right.

You know, I got over One More Day. But when that talentless farking hack Dan Slott went and destroyed Spider-Girl and whacked the successfully and happily married Peter and Mary Jane just for lame shock value in one of his shiatty "event" crossovers, that was about the time I abandoned Marvel altogether.

Of course, they had their own Crisis on Infinite Earths shortly after and made a great stopping point, so it was all good.

/Spidey couldn't be married because Joey Q is another "professional" fanboy like Geoff Johns who can't fathom a character can be anything other than what he read in the 1970s when he was sitting around in his underoos.


Don't blame Geoff, I think that was more Dan Didios line of thinking.

Fact is DC rectified their mistake, especially since the Wonder Woman/Superman relationship didn't catch fire. And Convergence showed how popular some of the older versions of the characters were.
 
2017-10-03 05:31:38 PM  

hammer85: Mugato: They could double date with The Joker and Harley Quinn. Like a temporary truce. The Joker knows Batman's identity, doesn't he?

Joker and Harley Quinn have been on the outs for a really really long time.


Dysfunctional relationships have a way of coming and going.
 
2017-10-03 05:36:13 PM  

Rwa2play: Flappyhead: imashark: Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".

Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.

And to top it all off they could have had a much, MUCH better ending.  Peter lets Aunt May die, cutting the last line to his pre-Spiderman days and now Mary Jane is his only grounding mechanism.  He has to take those last few painful steps into true adulthood almost completely on his own.  That's a lot of ground to till if you do it right.

There's so many directions that Marvel could take to make their stories hella interesting and grounding.  Yet we're still watching a universe where Spidey's single (again), the X-men are hunted (again), and they can't tell a good Dr. Strange story if it killed them.


That's what I enjoyed about Fables so much(well, the early story arcs anyway).  They took risks and went in new directions.  With a good writing and editing team you can get a lot of ground covered in a minimum amount of arcs, leaving plenty of space for the straightforward villain of the week stuff in between.
 
2017-10-03 05:40:01 PM  
"Mister President, bring our boys home from Indochina."
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2017-10-03 05:41:33 PM  

Mugato: hammer85: Mugato: They could double date with The Joker and Harley Quinn. Like a temporary truce. The Joker knows Batman's identity, doesn't he?

Joker and Harley Quinn have been on the outs for a really really long time.

Dysfunctional relationships have a way of coming and going.


Not really: Harely is a popular character that has been more or turned into an anti-hero.

The humorousyet abusive relationship worked fine for the cartoon, because the Joker really wasn't that abusivec outcside of a cartoony way. Within a more "real" comic book, it was far too abusive.

Hell, in the Suicide Squad, they are a twisted couple, who actually likes each other. And that was changed from the scrip where the Joker intentionality pushed Harely off the plane to kill her.
 
2017-10-03 05:44:54 PM  

Mugato: hammer85: Mugato: They could double date with The Joker and Harley Quinn. Like a temporary truce. The Joker knows Batman's identity, doesn't he?

Joker and Harley Quinn have been on the outs for a really really long time.

Dysfunctional relationships have a way of coming and going.


Ya I don't think its happening.  There's been plenty of times where they've met in recent issues where she generally ends up beating the shiat out of him or turning him down.  She's too firmly established herself as DC's deadpool/anti-hero and has her own little world going on that there would be blood if she just became Joker's sidekick again.

Harley is beating out nightwing and green lantern in comics sold.  And it's only slightly behind Action Comics.

There is no plot or financial incentive for her to ever get back with him.
 
2017-10-03 05:59:28 PM  

hammer85: There is no plot or financial incentive for her to ever get back with him.


I dunno, you see it all the time in real life. She was a nutcase to begin with. Battered wife syndrome, why can't they get back together? I bet they will in the next Suicide Squad movie.
 
2017-10-03 06:57:00 PM  

killzoe: Let's see - they get married, somebody kills her, Bats vows revenge.  Comic tropes in action.


Naw. Someone kills Alfred, Bats makes a deal with the Devil to bring him back to life at the cost of his marriage, fans riot as Spider-Man fans laugh trying to forget certain memories.
 
2017-10-03 06:59:12 PM  

billygeek: Imagine the BATchelor party!!!

BOOM!!!


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2017-10-03 07:59:25 PM  
Need more pictures of the various catwomen. Leaning towards Michelle.
 
2017-10-03 08:54:24 PM  
heh.  reminds me of the older DC comic encyclopedia I have , it has a section on romances inthe comics and it states Btam is an expert on everything but relationships.
 
2017-10-03 08:56:21 PM  

johnphantom: Need more pictures of the various catwomen. Leaning towards Michelle.


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Anne Hathaway was a child.
 
2017-10-03 09:09:26 PM  

MVEAlpha: Either something will happen that results in the wedding getting called off, or Selena dies.

Only two ways I see this ending.


assets.change.orgDios mio, mang culturepop.com
 
2017-10-03 09:12:04 PM  

YodaBlues: End_Of_Line: exparrot: "A kiss can be even deadlier if you mean it."

Best Batman movie of all time, ever.

Counterpoint: Penguin Army.
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So you're arguing greatest movie ever?
 
2017-10-03 09:13:47 PM  

BeesNuts: CNichols: BeesNuts: Best Comic Love Scene Ever.

Yes, yes, Gutts and Casks is very sweet. Shame that everything irrevocably goes to the maximum possible level of shiat immediately afterwards.

It goes to the maximum possible level of shiat IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCENE.  And then it gets worse after.

I was being coy.

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Oglaf?
 
2017-10-03 09:15:17 PM  

ElectricPeterTork: Flappyhead: billygeek: Imagine the BATchelor party!!!

BOOM!!!

Was it DC where the groom to be found out his fiancee was a former porn star at his bachelor party?

No, that was Incredible Hulk #417, when Hulk threw a bachelor party for Rick Jones, and the stag film they wound up showing starred Rick's soon to be wife, Marlo.

Of course, Marlo started out in the book nailing the Grey Hulk in Vegas, so there were already issues there.

Then later, she left Rick and lezzed out with Moonstone for a while.

The Hulk/Captain  Marvel books sort of went to hell around that time and I can't tell you what happened after 2006ish.

As for Catwoman and Batman? God, DC is sad and pathetic.


Tracedby Greg Land?
 
2017-10-03 09:16:33 PM  

hammer85: Mugato: They could double date with The Joker and Harley Quinn. Like a temporary truce. The Joker knows Batman's identity, doesn't he?

Joker and Harley Quinn have been on the outs for a really really long time.


Harley became Deadpool some time back
 
2017-10-03 09:18:43 PM  

Flappyhead: imashark: Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".

Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.

And to top it all off they could have had a much, MUCH better ending.  Peter lets Aunt May die, cutting the last line to his pre-Spiderman days and now Mary Jane is his only grounding mechanism.  He has to take those last few painful steps into true adulthood almost completely on his own.  That's a lot of ground to till if you do it right.


Well shiat yeah, that's a lot of ground to till. And if I remember right this was after Civil War when ALL of Spidey's enemies knew who he was. They could have tilled THAT for five years but much like Stimpy, they couldn't wait to hit that cosmic whammy button.
 
2017-10-03 09:19:19 PM  

Fano: ElectricPeterTork: Flappyhead: billygeek: Imagine the BATchelor party!!!

BOOM!!!

Was it DC where the groom to be found out his fiancee was a former porn star at his bachelor party?

No, that was Incredible Hulk #417, when Hulk threw a bachelor party for Rick Jones, and the stag film they wound up showing starred Rick's soon to be wife, Marlo.

Of course, Marlo started out in the book nailing the Grey Hulk in Vegas, so there were already issues there.

Then later, she left Rick and lezzed out with Moonstone for a while.

The Hulk/Captain  Marvel books sort of went to hell around that time and I can't tell you what happened after 2006ish.

As for Catwoman and Batman? God, DC is sad and pathetic.

Tracedby Greg Land?


lubbockonline.com
 
2017-10-03 09:20:57 PM  

Fano: Flappyhead: imashark: Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".

Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.

And to top it all off they could have had a much, MUCH better ending.  Peter lets Aunt May die, cutting the last line to his pre-Spiderman days and now Mary Jane is his only grounding mechanism.  He has to take those last few painful steps into true adulthood almost completely on his own.  That's a lot of ground to till if you do it right.

Well shiat yeah, that's a lot of ground to till. And if I remember right this was after Civil War when ALL of Spidey's enemies knew who he was. They could have tilled THAT for five years but much like Stimpy, they couldn't wait to hit that cosmic whammy button.


IIRC, JMS said the only reason they did the big Peter Parker secret identity reveal was because they knew the big red button was coming, so it didn't matter anyway!

I still give JMS enough credit to say that One More Day wasn't his mistake, Joey Q took over and shat that one out.
 
2017-10-03 09:30:17 PM  

Lokilaw2012: billygeek: Imagine the BATchelor party!!!

BOOM!!!

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Sort of funny but they really should have used the different cells, showing all of batmans emotions come from his eye.
 
2017-10-03 09:32:21 PM  

johnphantom: Need more pictures of the various catwomen. Leaning towards Michelle.


Julie Newmar by a mile:

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2017-10-03 09:32:53 PM  

ElectricPeterTork: Rwa2play: Flappyhead: imashark: Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".

Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.

And to top it all off they could have had a much, MUCH better ending.  Peter lets Aunt May die, cutting the last line to his pre-Spiderman days and now Mary Jane is his only grounding mechanism.  He has to take those last few painful steps into true adulthood almost completely on his own.  That's a lot of ground to till if you do it right.

There's so many directions that Marvel could take to make their stories hella interesting and grounding.  Yet we're still watching a universe where Spidey's single (again), the X-men are hunted (again), and they can't tell a good Dr. Strange story if it killed them.

And a character either has to be disgraced and replaced by a multicultural multiethnic dartboard choice Mary Sue, or the replacement has to be replaced by the original old white guy because sales dropped like a rock... depending upon which week this is.


I don't know why it's so hard for comic book execs to understand that when people say they want more representation in comics they DON'T WANT YOU TO REPLACE EXISTING POPULAR CHARACTERS, NO JUST STOP IT. Like Wonder Woman and Catwoman and Harley....they are original characters, not replacements. Or Luke Cage. Or Black Panther. Rogue. Jean Grey. Storm. Pick any minority/female character that is popular, they start as their own character. Want to connect them to an existing character? Okay, look at She-Hulk. She didn't replace the Hulk...she just became a slightly different Hulk. Or Supergirl, she didn't need to become the new Superman. People want you to create NEW characters, not take away existing popular ones and replace them.
 
2017-10-03 09:36:20 PM  

Cndn Bacon: johnphantom: Need more pictures of the various catwomen. Leaning towards Michelle.

Julie Newmar by a mile:

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Wasn't devious enough.
 
2017-10-03 09:39:18 PM  

Dark Side Of The Spoon: ElectricPeterTork: Rwa2play: Flappyhead: imashark: Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".

Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.

And to top it all off they could have had a much, MUCH better ending.  Peter lets Aunt May die, cutting the last line to his pre-Spiderman days and now Mary Jane is his only grounding mechanism.  He has to take those last few painful steps into true adulthood almost completely on his own.  That's a lot of ground to till if you do it right.

There's so many directions that Marvel could take to make their stories hella interesting and grounding.  Yet we're still watching a universe where Spidey's single (again), the X-men are hunted (again), and they can't tell a good Dr. Strange story if it killed them.

And a character either has to be disgraced and replaced by a multicultural multiethnic dartboard choice Mary Sue, or the replacement has to be replaced by the original old white guy because sales dropped like a rock... depending upon which week this is.

I don't know why it's so hard for comic book execs to understand that when people say they want more representation in comics they DON'T WANT YOU TO REPLACE EXISTING POPULAR CHARACTERS, NO JUST STOP IT. Like Wonder Woman and Catwoman and Harley....they are original characters, not replacements. Or Luke Cage. Or Black Panther. Rogue. Jean Grey. Storm. Pick any minority/female character that is popular, they start as their own character. Want to connect them to an existing character? Okay, look at She-Hulk. She didn't replace the Hulk...she just became a slightly different Hulk. Or Supergirl, she didn't need to become the new Superman. People want you to create NEW characters, not take away existing popular ones and replace them.


If it's natural and organic, people will accept a replacement like Jim Rhodes as Iron Man. Or, you can just make him War Machine.

Of course, that was 30 years ago, and people did decide to get retarded about Falcon Cap. However, that came after the better part of a decade with Bucky as Cap, so maybe it wasn't so much "ZOMG BLACK CAP NOT MY CAP!" as it was "Jesus farking Christ, Steve hasn't even been back as Cap for two years yet, and that horrible Rick Remender Dimension Z abortion took up one of those years, and we're replacing him again?"
 
2017-10-03 09:40:01 PM  

Dark Side Of The Spoon: ElectricPeterTork: Rwa2play: Flappyhead: imashark: Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".

Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.

And to top it all off they could have had a much, MUCH better ending.  Peter lets Aunt May die, cutting the last line to his pre-Spiderman days and now Mary Jane is his only grounding mechanism.  He has to take those last few painful steps into true adulthood almost completely on his own.  That's a lot of ground to till if you do it right.

There's so many directions that Marvel could take to make their stories hella interesting and grounding.  Yet we're still watching a universe where Spidey's single (again), the X-men are hunted (again), and they can't tell a good Dr. Strange story if it killed them.

And a character either has to be disgraced and replaced by a multicultural multiethnic dartboard choice Mary Sue, or the replacement has to be replaced by the original old white guy because sales dropped like a rock... depending upon which week this is.

I don't know why it's so hard for comic book execs to understand that when people say they want more representation in comics they DON'T WANT YOU TO REPLACE EXISTING POPULAR CHARACTERS, NO JUST STOP IT. Like Wonder Woman and Catwoman and Harley....they are original characters, not replacements. Or Luke Cage. Or Black Panther. Rogue. Jean Grey. Storm. Pick any minority/female character that is popular, they start as their own character. Want to connect them to an existing character? Okay, look at She-Hulk. She didn't replace the Hulk...she just became a slightly different Hulk. Or Supergirl, she didn't need to become the new Superman. People want you to create NEW characters, not take away existing popular ones and replace them.


This
 
2017-10-03 09:48:39 PM  

ElectricPeterTork: Dark Side Of The Spoon: ElectricPeterTork: Rwa2play: Flappyhead: imashark: Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".

Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.

And to top it all off they could have had a much, MUCH better ending.  Peter lets Aunt May die, cutting the last line to his pre-Spiderman days and now Mary Jane is his only grounding mechanism.  He has to take those last few painful steps into true adulthood almost completely on his own.  That's a lot of ground to till if you do it right.

There's so many directions that Marvel could take to make their stories hella interesting and grounding.  Yet we're still watching a universe where Spidey's single (again), the X-men are hunted (again), and they can't tell a good Dr. Strange story if it killed them.

And a character either has to be disgraced and replaced by a multicultural multiethnic dartboard choice Mary Sue, or the replacement has to be replaced by the original old white guy because sales dropped like a rock... depending upon which week this is.

I don't know why it's so hard for comic book execs to understand that when people say they want more representation in comics they DON'T WANT YOU TO REPLACE EXISTING POPULAR CHARACTERS, NO JUST STOP IT. Like Wonder Woman and Catwoman and Harley....they are original characters, not replacements. Or Luke Cage. Or Black Panther. Rogue. Jean Grey. Storm. Pick any minority/female character that is popular, they start as their own character. Want to connect them to an existing character? Okay, look at She-Hulk. She didn't replace the Hulk...she just became a slightly different Hulk. Or Supergirl, she didn't need to become the new Superman. People want you to create NEW characters, not take away existing popular ones and replace them.

If it's natural and organic, people will accept a replac ...


The logic is just so bizzare. 'X character is popular...therefor, the best way to take a short cut to making a minority character popular, is to make them the new X!'

Right, because the only reason people like a character is.....their power set? Everything else they could give no shiats about, or so someone apparently thinks. And then they act all surprised and go 'well, this is why there aren't so many minority characters! No one wants to read about them....' Totally ignoring that anyone might be mad you took away their favorite they had been following for years. I can't understand why this isn't 2+2=4 levels easy to understand.
 
2017-10-03 09:53:01 PM  

Dark Side Of The Spoon: ElectricPeterTork: Dark Side Of The Spoon: ElectricPeterTork: Rwa2play: Flappyhead: imashark: Rwa2play: Which is (partially) why some Spider-Man fans want to wage jihadagainst Queseda for "One More Day".

Man I knew Peter's marriage was retconned out of the universe, but after reading the wiki page, the way they appear to have did it seems so... artless.

And to top it all off they could have had a much, MUCH better ending.  Peter lets Aunt May die, cutting the last line to his pre-Spiderman days and now Mary Jane is his only grounding mechanism.  He has to take those last few painful steps into true adulthood almost completely on his own.  That's a lot of ground to till if you do it right.

There's so many directions that Marvel could take to make their stories hella interesting and grounding.  Yet we're still watching a universe where Spidey's single (again), the X-men are hunted (again), and they can't tell a good Dr. Strange story if it killed them.

And a character either has to be disgraced and replaced by a multicultural multiethnic dartboard choice Mary Sue, or the replacement has to be replaced by the original old white guy because sales dropped like a rock... depending upon which week this is.

I don't know why it's so hard for comic book execs to understand that when people say they want more representation in comics they DON'T WANT YOU TO REPLACE EXISTING POPULAR CHARACTERS, NO JUST STOP IT. Like Wonder Woman and Catwoman and Harley....they are original characters, not replacements. Or Luke Cage. Or Black Panther. Rogue. Jean Grey. Storm. Pick any minority/female character that is popular, they start as their own character. Want to connect them to an existing character? Okay, look at She-Hulk. She didn't replace the Hulk...she just became a slightly different Hulk. Or Supergirl, she didn't need to become the new Superman. People want you to create NEW characters, not take away existing popular ones and replace them.

If it's natural and organic, people will accept a replac ...

The logic is just so bizzare. 'X character is popular...therefor, the best way to take a short cut to making a minority character popular, is to make them the new X!'

Right, because the only reason people like a character is.....their power set? Everything else they could give no shiats about, or so someone apparently thinks. And then they act all surprised and go 'well, this is why there aren't so many minority characters! No one wants to read about them....' Totally ignoring that anyone might be mad you took away their favorite they had been following for years. I can't understand why this isn't 2+2=4 levels easy to understand.


Yet Marvel did Ms. Marvel so right...

Take an abandoned second stringer name, fill the position with a new character that you can make whatever you want, profit.
 
2017-10-03 10:05:26 PM  

Cndn Bacon: johnphantom: Need more pictures of the various catwomen. Leaning towards Michelle.

Julie Newmar by a mile:

[img.fark.net image 425x311]

[img.fark.net image 309x328]


By a mile? Try by light years.
 
2017-10-03 10:08:00 PM  

Rwa2play: Cndn Bacon: johnphantom: Need more pictures of the various catwomen. Leaning towards Michelle.

Julie Newmar by a mile:

[img.fark.net image 425x311]

[img.fark.net image 309x328]

By a mile? Try by light years.


68.media.tumblr.com
 
2017-10-03 10:11:07 PM  

ElectricPeterTork: Yet Marvel did Ms. Marvel so right...

Take an abandoned second stringer name, fill the position with a new character that you can make whatever you want, profit.


Sigh...I miss her old look.  At least it was somewhat unique.
 
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