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(Newsweek)   SETI claims alien life will be found in twenty years, though if they just bring back SETI eels it will make Khan happy   ( newsweek.com) divider line
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2017-10-03 11:44:10 AM  
7 votes:

Voiceofreason01: For SETI to detect alien life they would need to be at least as technologically advanced as we are now and so far we have no evidence that any life, even very simple single celled life, exists anywhere but Earth.


No evidence because the universe is so vast but it's a virtual impossibility that there isn't intelligent life out there somewhere.
2017-10-03 03:41:55 PM  
4 votes:
I would love to believe he's right.  Twenty years ago we didn't even have evidence that planets existed around other stars.  The chances that life exists only on earth is inconceivable to me, but it would not surprise me to learn that the closest existing civilization life is so distant or different from us that detection would be impossible.
2017-10-03 03:23:10 PM  
4 votes:

ABQGOD: THIS IS CETI ALPHA V!!!


Thank you Enterprise staff, for keeping us infromed.  Maybe next time a note in the data links about the psychotic genius supervillain you stranded randomly.
2017-10-03 06:17:44 PM  
3 votes:

Voiceofreason01: Mugato: Voiceofreason01: For SETI to detect alien life they would need to be at least as technologically advanced as we are now and so far we have no evidence that any life, even very simple single celled life, exists anywhere but Earth.

No evidence because the universe is so vast but it's a virtual impossibility that there isn't intelligent life out there somewhere.

There is no proof that life exists outside of Earth. Even if you assume life there's no reason to think intelligence is common. Even if you assume intelligence there's no reason to assume technology is common. SETI is searching for signs of advanced  technological Civilization and if the nearest technologically advanced alien life is three galaxies away then SETI is unlikely to detect it.


The number of galaxies, not planets but galaxies out there might as well be infinite as far as we know. There's almost a zero chance that there isn't intelligent life out there. Did they break the light speed barrier and make it within our scope of perception? That's a different story.
2017-10-03 02:44:42 PM  
3 votes:

Makh: We have been searching with roughly the same detection methods for 50 years and counting.  So even by our own definition we can find intelligent life that is easily 50 or more years advanced than us.


On the other hand, to use an analogy I've heard SETI scientists use before, we've done the equivalent of searching a cup of water from the Pacific Ocean.  It's not surprising that we didn't catch a fish.
2017-10-03 01:52:53 PM  
3 votes:
And fusion power-plants are just 10 years away. Same as they have been for the past 40 years.
2017-10-03 01:04:16 PM  
3 votes:

Mugato: Voiceofreason01: For SETI to detect alien life they would need to be at least as technologically advanced as we are now and so far we have no evidence that any life, even very simple single celled life, exists anywhere but Earth.

No evidence because the universe is so vast but it's a virtual impossibility that there isn't intelligent life out there somewhere.


There is no proof that life exists outside of Earth. Even if you assume life there's no reason to think intelligence is common. Even if you assume intelligence there's no reason to assume technology is common. SETI is searching for signs of advanced  technological Civilization and if the nearest technologically advanced alien life is three galaxies away then SETI is unlikely to detect it.
2017-10-03 10:41:32 AM  
3 votes:
For SETI to detect alien life they would need to be at least as technologically advanced as we are now and so far we have no evidence that any life, even very simple single celled life, exists anywhere but Earth.
2017-10-03 08:17:24 PM  
2 votes:
Do we still get a research lab in every city?
2017-10-03 04:47:55 PM  
2 votes:

Gleeman: born_yesterday: ABQGOD: THIS IS CETI ALPHA V!!!

Thank you Enterprise staff, for keeping us infromed.  Maybe next time a note in the data links about the psychotic genius supervillain you stranded randomly.

Even if Starfleet had made that incident eyes only, you'd think Checkov would have remembered the guy who tried to take over the Enterprise and start a war.


He wasn't on the Enterprise in the original Khan episode. In an interview, Walter Koenig explained that there was a point in WOK when Chekhov "remembers" Khan, but Koenig didn't want to get written out of the movie, so he didn't bring it up.
2017-10-03 02:49:40 PM  
2 votes:
The relevant xkcd.
2017-10-03 02:07:21 PM  
2 votes:
Space is probably teeming with life.

But it's not very interesting life. Lichen and such.
2017-10-03 10:57:06 PM  
1 vote:

TofuTheAlmighty: Life, or something similar, is probably fairly common. Human-level intelligent life is almost certainly vanishingly rare.


Including on Earth.

/try the veal, here all week etc
2017-10-03 07:35:36 PM  
1 vote:
Life, or something similar, is probably fairly common. Human-level intelligent life is almost certainly vanishingly rare.
2017-10-03 05:16:56 PM  
1 vote:

cob2f: Gleeman: born_yesterday: ABQGOD: THIS IS CETI ALPHA V!!!

Thank you Enterprise staff, for keeping us infromed.  Maybe next time a note in the data links about the psychotic genius supervillain you stranded randomly.

Even if Starfleet had made that incident eyes only, you'd think Checkov would have remembered the guy who tried to take over the Enterprise and start a war.

He wasn't on the Enterprise in the original Khan episode. In an interview, Walter Koenig explained that there was a point in WOK when Chekhov "remembers" Khan, but Koenig didn't want to get written out of the movie, so he didn't bring it up.


Have to rewatch TOS episode, forgot Checkov wasn't in it. I was thinking about WoK when Checkov recognizes Khan right away. He probably would have been told the story by one of his shipmates at some point.

"So this one time we found this ship full of frozen super villains..."
2017-10-03 04:15:28 PM  
1 vote:

born_yesterday: ABQGOD: THIS IS CETI ALPHA V!!!

Thank you Enterprise staff, for keeping us infromed.  Maybe next time a note in the data links about the psychotic genius supervillain you stranded randomly.


Even if Starfleet had made that incident eyes only, you'd think Checkov would have remembered the guy who tried to take over the Enterprise and start a war.
2017-10-03 02:40:49 PM  
1 vote:
Some of the signals that were easy to detect are from natural phenomena more powerful than anything on Earth.

In other words, the signals we really like, if created artificially would by definition have come from technology well beyond our own.

We have been searching with roughly the same detection methods for 50 years and counting.  So even by our own definition we can find intelligent life that is easily 50 or more years advanced than us.
2017-10-03 02:33:51 PM  
1 vote:
You used to be able to assist SETI by using your home pc to analyze their data. It would download the data and analyze the software only when your pc idles. Called BOINC. Further reading here: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu
2017-10-03 01:55:21 PM  
1 vote:
If he knows we're going to find intelligent alien life in 20 years, just skip all the hoops we're going to jump through in that time to get there, and thereby discover intelligent life tomorrow instead of two decades from now.

Sheesh.

It's not that difficult to understand.
 
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