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2017-10-03 12:57:52 AM  
So stop making crap and focus on ScarJo in cat suits? Winning strategy.  Winning.
 
2017-10-03 02:56:45 AM  
That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.
 
2017-10-03 07:02:55 AM  

fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.


Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.
 
2017-10-03 07:03:28 AM  
Lucy 2.0
The search for a USB-C adapter.
 
2017-10-03 07:05:26 AM  
He has to. The first one was a big hit and his last movie bombed.
 
2017-10-03 07:15:13 AM  
Lucy was fun, and Valerian could've been great if they'd cast almost anyone else in the titular role.

I enjoy Besson's movies, glad to see he has some new stuff in the pipeline.
 
2017-10-03 07:17:11 AM  
Just try to make it a bit less magical.
I liked the concept.
 
2017-10-03 07:19:28 AM  

Sgt Otter: Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.


Oddly, that's only the second-silliest thing in the premise. The silliest is the claim that if we used all of our brains, something magical would happen. Why would approximately 3 pounds of brain be some special number?
 
2017-10-03 07:26:00 AM  
I enjoyed the first one.  It was a silly, fun superhero origin story.
The science was crap. But so is all superhero science.  I'll watch a sequel.
 
2017-10-03 07:26:24 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Lucy was fun, and Valerian could've been great if they'd cast almost anyone else in the titular role.


Nothing short of a complete rewrite could have redeemed Valerian. The movie's whole vibe was "Cary Grant and Doris Day in Space", which was awkward even back when Cary Grant and Doris Day were still doing it.

I felt awkward from the moment Valerian more or less threatened to sexually assault a woman in his direct chain of command while "playfully" pinning her down, before bragging to her about his long list of sexual conquests. But of course she knows that she can be the one to reform and marry this confirmed bachelor! Really, has Besson been living on another planet since 1961?

Some of the visuals were nice, though.
 
2017-10-03 07:34:46 AM  
That was a such a stupid idea for a movie but damned if I wasn't entertained for 90 minutes.

/Luc Besson is the master of stupid, fun action movies.
 
2017-10-03 07:41:56 AM  
Fred and Ethel?  Brad and Angelina!
 
2017-10-03 07:48:46 AM  

czetie: Some of the visuals were nice, though.


I'm not sure why they bothered to CGI the mostly human-ish aliens.  It seems like they could have hired a bunch of thin gymnasts or ballerinas and slapped some Star Trek make-up on them.  You had some cool ideas like a chase between slightly out-of-phase dimensions, but then it got really formulaic.  Shady general with a personal army of non-standard issue gleaming back death-robots is secretly the bad guy?  WHAT A TWIST.

I think I dozed off in the middle.  I like the opening David Bowie sequence and Big Ol' Eyebrows wearing a big crazy hat.

Although I did get to use the phrase, "Ethan Hawke plays a space-pimp in a cameo" describing the film to a friend.
 
2017-10-03 07:53:35 AM  

fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.


Maybe she did not like them.
 
2017-10-03 07:58:58 AM  
I want more sequels to this Lucy

upload.wikimedia.org

/Turkana Boy, two Malapa skeletons, Ardi, and the Rising Star hominins are all great.
//Come on Ron Clarke, you really can publish want you taken two decades to get out of the rock.
 
2017-10-03 08:01:03 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Maybe she did not like them.


She made it very clear in the film that she would need all of her focus to find the ultimate truth and while doing so she would be vulnerable and could not help them.  This was not the fault of the script.  It was the fault of not paying attention.
 
2017-10-03 08:15:01 AM  
Sgt Otter:Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.

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2017-10-03 08:24:20 AM  

czetie: TuteTibiImperes: Lucy was fun, and Valerian could've been great if they'd cast almost anyone else in the titular role.

Nothing short of a complete rewrite could have redeemed Valerian. The movie's whole vibe was "Cary Grant and Doris Day in Space", which was awkward even back when Cary Grant and Doris Day were still doing it.

I felt awkward from the moment Valerian more or less threatened to sexually assault a woman in his direct chain of command while "playfully" pinning her down, before bragging to her about his long list of sexual conquests. But of course she knows that she can be the one to reform and marry this confirmed bachelor! Really, has Besson been living on another planet since 1961?

Some of the visuals were nice, though.


I think those scenes came off as creepy because Dehaan and Delevingne had absolutely no chemistry together.  I thought Delivingne did a good job overall, but Dehaan came off as a greasy, spoiled, immature punk of a kid.  Cast an actor with some charisma in that role, and someone who looks older than 18, and those scenes would have come across much better and less squicky.

Valerian needed to be more Captain Kirk (Pine or Shatner) and less Spicoli in space.
 
2017-10-03 08:27:52 AM  

UncleDirtNap: Sgt Otter:Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.

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There is no confirmation of a complete brain, so it could be he is using 100% of his capacity.
 
2017-10-03 08:32:03 AM  

Sgt Otter: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.


I am usually able to suspend disbelief for that part, as long as it isn't dumb (Lawnmower Man). This movie stretched my abilities in that regard.

Luc Besson needs to step back and focus on art direction, giving him all the reins is a bad idea.
 
2017-10-03 08:35:19 AM  
img.fark.net

Obligatory.
 
2017-10-03 08:38:56 AM  

BafflerMeal: TheMysteriousStranger: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Maybe she did not like them.

She made it very clear in the film that she would need all of her focus to find the ultimate truth and while doing so she would be vulnerable and could not help them.  This was not the fault of the script.  It was the fault of not paying attention.


Not that I or many people actually remember the exact sequence of events in a so-so movie that I've seen only once some time back...

But  that really sounds like a silly patch of a plot hole.  It reminds me of Star Trek: Voyager when they had a clear plot hole having someone say "You don't understand temporal mechanics" (or something like that).By that time in the script she was more and more powerful.   It was almost certainly more like: We want a big fantasy action sequence so we'll put in a line of dialog to justify it when the prior logic suggests that it was unnecessary.
 
2017-10-03 08:39:16 AM  

Catlenfell: I enjoyed the first one.  It was a silly, fun superhero origin story.
The science was crap. But so is all superhero science.  I'll watch a sequel.


same - it was a movie
 
2017-10-03 08:48:46 AM  

Sgt Otter: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.


To be fair, 90% of my brain is usually shut down by alcohol... ;)
 
2017-10-03 08:49:57 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: BafflerMeal: TheMysteriousStranger: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Maybe she did not like them.

She made it very clear in the film that she would need all of her focus to find the ultimate truth and while doing so she would be vulnerable and could not help them.  This was not the fault of the script.  It was the fault of not paying attention.

Not that I or many people actually remember the exact sequence of events in a so-so movie that I've seen only once some time back...

But  that really sounds like a silly patch of a plot hole.  It reminds me of Star Trek: Voyager when they had a clear plot hole having someone say "You don't understand temporal mechanics" (or something like that).By that time in the script she was more and more powerful.   It was almost certainly more like: We want a big fantasy action sequence so we'll put in a line of dialog to justify it when the prior logic suggests that it was unnecessary.


Yeah, I mean she could have stopped the shootout with a thought and then created the thumb drive.
 
2017-10-03 09:33:22 AM  

fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.


The whole movie was stupid. "Let's take an already-disproven fallacy, wrap a script full of bizarre inconsistencies around it, and then try to use names to make it all work."

And how do you get a sequel out of that movie? Is he manufacturing a drug-spawned pantheon, or is he planning on burying the thumb drive in a rock and proclaiming that he or she who pulls the drive from the stone shall become king of reality or some such? The only reason that movie even marginally worked is because we don't know what's on the goddamned thumb drive. That allowed us to enjoy a flight of optimistic imagination, one of the few points where we could at least guarantee some internal consistency given that movie's incredibly inconsistent plot, characters, and "science."
 
2017-10-03 09:44:43 AM  
I liked Lucy, but Scarjo was really bland in it.  I wish she was able to convey her mental evolution in a better way than not moving her facial muscles.
 
2017-10-03 10:07:56 AM  

Telos: Sgt Otter: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.

To be fair, 90% of my brain is usually shut down by alcohol... ;)


90% of my brain is occupied thinking about sex. The remaining 10% is weeping because I'm not having sex.
 
2017-10-03 10:19:48 AM  

italie: Lucy 2.0
The search for a USB-C adapter.


This is actually going to be a crossover with Thor so she can shoot Thunderbolt (adapters) out of her ass.
 
2017-10-03 10:29:18 AM  

Nogrhi: italie: Lucy 2.0
The search for a USB-C adapter.

This is actually going to be a crossover with Thor so she can shoot Thunderbolt (adapters) out of her ass.


Fark is not your personal erotica site.

However that is my fetish....
 
2017-10-03 11:21:15 AM  
I heard she's going to turn into a PS2 memory card this time.
 
2017-10-03 12:04:04 PM  

rummonkey: I am usually able to suspend disbelief for that part, as long as it isn't dumb (Lawnmower Man). This movie stretched my abilities in that regard.


It would have been a fine starting point if they didn't have God butting in every few minutes to say "Now she's using 45% of her brain which means she can levitate shiat." The fact that they kept hitting it meant you could never forget how dumb it was.
 
2017-10-03 01:20:17 PM  

Sgt Otter: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.


Not a myth. Ok maybe not 10% but nowhere near 100%. Yes every part of the brain is used but not efficiently. If you take a pingpong ball and shake it around I'm an empty box it will use almost all of the space but that doesn't mean the box can only hold one ball.
 
2017-10-03 01:38:36 PM  

Noah_Tall: Sgt Otter: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.

Not a myth. Ok maybe not 10% but nowhere near 100%. Yes every part of the brain is used but not efficiently. If you take a pingpong ball and shake it around I'm an empty box it will use almost all of the space but that doesn't mean the box can only hold one ball.


Citation needed.

/withholds joke involving how many balls your mom holds
 
2017-10-03 01:42:20 PM  

odinsposse: rummonkey: I am usually able to suspend disbelief for that part, as long as it isn't dumb (Lawnmower Man). This movie stretched my abilities in that regard.

It would have been a fine starting point if they didn't have God butting in every few minutes to say "Now she's using 45% of her brain which means she can levitate shiat." The fact that they kept hitting it meant you could never forget how dumb it was.


90% of my brain is dedicated to forgetting that kind of shiat.
 
2017-10-03 01:44:12 PM  

Telos: Noah_Tall: Sgt Otter: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.

Not a myth. Ok maybe not 10% but nowhere near 100%. Yes every part of the brain is used but not efficiently. If you take a pingpong ball and shake it around I'm an empty box it will use almost all of the space but that doesn't mean the box can only hold one ball.

Citation needed.

/withholds joke involving how many balls your mom holds


I would have respected you more if you made the joke about his mom holding balls. This Fark damnit, we have standards to maintain...

Citation
 
2017-10-03 01:45:12 PM  

Sgt Otter: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.


To be fair, they did seem to try and avoid that by changing it to 10% of our "cerebral capacity" (whatever that is). Still not likely to be true, and not the only thing they got wrong (like Lucy being "the first woman" ... I would have bought that her friend would have gotten that wrong - he was an idiot - but later scenes seem to back it up as fact).  But the real failing was not the bad science.  It was bad movie making. It looked like it was trying to be a lot of things (hard science fiction, philosophical drama, action film, visual spectacle), but didn't do any of them very well. It had a few good scenes, but overall, it doesn't give you any one thing at the end, intellectually or emotionally.
 
2017-10-03 02:19:52 PM  

Noah_Tall: Sgt Otter: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.

Not a myth. Ok maybe not 10% but nowhere near 100%. Yes every part of the brain is used but not efficiently. If you take a pingpong ball and shake it around I'm an empty box it will use almost all of the space but that doesn't mean the box can only hold one ball.


Yes, but the other 90% is used to store penguins.
 
2017-10-03 02:46:42 PM  

Noah_Tall: Sgt Otter: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.

Not a myth. Ok maybe not 10% but nowhere near 100%. Yes every part of the brain is used but not efficiently. If you take a pingpong ball and shake it around I'm an empty box it will use almost all of the space but that doesn't mean the box can only hold one ball.


The whole argument about how much of our brain is used is predicated upon a mistaken assumption that the brain considers being used the most as a good.  The comparison here is to a highway system, with the assumption that a highway system best accomplishes its goals by being crammed with as many cars as possible for as much of the day as possible.  The logic of their view eventually has to agree that the only people using their brain to any responsible degree are epileptics.
 
2017-10-03 03:28:05 PM  

rummonkey: Telos: Noah_Tall: Sgt Otter: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.

Not a myth. Ok maybe not 10% but nowhere near 100%. Yes every part of the brain is used but not efficiently. If you take a pingpong ball and shake it around I'm an empty box it will use almost all of the space but that doesn't mean the box can only hold one ball.

Citation needed.

/withholds joke involving how many balls your mom holds

I would have respected you more if you made the joke about his mom holding balls. This Fark damnit, we have standards to maintain...

Citation


Good citation. There was also a study of geniuses vs average brain usage in an MRI. I'm not going to try and find it on my phone but it was a major magazine like Scientific American. It showed that geniuses used more areas of their brains simultaneously. Basically they were hyper-threading.

So although you aren't going to create a Lucy if you use more of your brain you seem to get a similar response to using a greater percentage of the cpu and ram in your computer. But the real question is if you did that would it create the same problem as with a computer. Overheating and eventual bluescreen. And maybe that's why we are wired to not do it.
 
2017-10-03 03:32:57 PM  
Does she transform into a 200TB flash drive this time?
 
2017-10-03 03:36:52 PM  

Noah_Tall: rummonkey: Telos: Noah_Tall: Sgt Otter: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Plus the whole thing is based on the "we only use 10% of our brains" myth.

Not a myth. Ok maybe not 10% but nowhere near 100%. Yes every part of the brain is used but not efficiently. If you take a pingpong ball and shake it around I'm an empty box it will use almost all of the space but that doesn't mean the box can only hold one ball.

Citation needed.

/withholds joke involving how many balls your mom holds

I would have respected you more if you made the joke about his mom holding balls. This Fark damnit, we have standards to maintain...

Citation

Good citation. There was also a study of geniuses vs average brain usage in an MRI. I'm not going to try and find it on my phone but it was a major magazine like Scientific American. It showed that geniuses used more areas of their brains simultaneously. Basically they were hyper-threading.

So although you aren't going to create a Lucy if you use more of your brain you seem to get a similar response to using a greater percentage of the cpu and ram in your computer. But the real question is if you did that would it create the same problem as with a computer. Overheating and eventual bluescreen. And maybe that's why we are wired to not do it.


Just do what I do, pop the side of the case open when the GPU gets hot.

/I have a new fan but am too lazy to install it at this time.
 
2017-10-03 03:41:44 PM  
I can't find the article for this one (I think it was JAMA back in college) but our brain does not encode data like a computer.

Instead of ones and zeroes on an HDD sector, our memories are combinations of neurons firing in sequence. Some neurons are shared, which is why we get memories confused sometimes. the whole brain is used, just not at once.

I really want to find that study and see if it was validated or dismissed, its was a fascinating possibility.
 
2017-10-03 05:51:45 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Dehaan came off as a greasy, spoiled, immature punk of a kid. Cast an actor with some charisma in that role, and someone who looks older than 18, and those scenes would have come across much better and less squicky.


I certainly agree that Dehaan's performance (or perhaps Besson's direction?) made it worse by an order of magnitude. But I still think that at some point it becomes inherently squicky that Major Valerian pins Sargeant Laureline to the bed, and its not playfulness between two lovers.

Maybe a young George Clooney could have carried the rest of the role, but I don't see how anybody makes that particular moment not squicky.
 
2017-10-03 05:55:14 PM  

czetie: TuteTibiImperes: Dehaan came off as a greasy, spoiled, immature punk of a kid. Cast an actor with some charisma in that role, and someone who looks older than 18, and those scenes would have come across much better and less squicky.

I certainly agree that Dehaan's performance (or perhaps Besson's direction?) made it worse by an order of magnitude. But I still think that at some point it becomes inherently squicky that Major Valerian pins Sargeant Laureline to the bed, and its not playfulness between two lovers.

Maybe a young George Clooney could have carried the rest of the role, but I don't see how anybody makes that particular moment not squicky.


OK, it turns out Michael Phillips of the Chicago Tribune articulated it better than I could. He described it as "...a virtual-reality beach sequence with a weirdly date rape-y vibe, which provides sexual tension but not the right kind."
 
2017-10-03 08:03:56 PM  
This is going to be just like Lawnmower Man 2, isn't it?
 
2017-10-03 09:15:18 PM  

Snapper Carr: That was a such a stupid idea for a movie but damned if I wasn't entertained for 90 minutes.

/Luc Besson is the master of stupid, fun action movies.


Multi Bark

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2017-10-03 09:28:03 PM  
Multi Puss


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2017-10-03 09:30:48 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: BafflerMeal: TheMysteriousStranger: fusillade762: That movie was deeply silly. She allows this epic, bloody shootout that kills dozens of people near the end when she could have stopped it with a wave of her hand.

Maybe she did not like them.

She made it very clear in the film that she would need all of her focus to find the ultimate truth and while doing so she would be vulnerable and could not help them.  This was not the fault of the script.  It was the fault of not paying attention.

Not that I or many people actually remember the exact sequence of events in a so-so movie that I've seen only once some time back...

But  that really sounds like a silly patch of a plot hole.  It reminds me of Star Trek: Voyager when they had a clear plot hole having someone say "You don't understand temporal mechanics" (or something like that).By that time in the script she was more and more powerful.   It was almost certainly more like: We want a big fantasy action sequence so we'll put in a line of dialog to justify it when the prior logic suggests that it was unnecessary.


Count me in as remembering it and enjoying the movie. But Scarlett Johansson could stand around covered in a buffalo hide and I'd watch for 8 hours.
 
2017-10-03 10:14:56 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: I want more sequels to this Lucy

[upload.wikimedia.org image 621x1500]

/Turkana Boy, two Malapa skeletons, Ardi, and the Rising Star hominins are all great.
//Come on Ron Clarke, you really can publish want you taken two decades to get out of the rock.


I got to see Lucy in 2005 at the Aichi World Expo:

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