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2017-10-03 07:06:16 AM  
12 votes:
A vet not being able to talk to you about your overweight animal is like an airline pilot not knowing how to put down the landing gear--it is an essential part of the job. Get a new vet.

If my Labrador is one hair over 80 lbs, I get yelled at by my vet. She is horrible. She sternly lectures me on the damage resulting from a dog's extra pounds. Then she asks questions like, "Do you want him to have a healthy life?" and "Who makes the decisions? You? Or him?" Brutal. It has only happened once. And why I'm getting a kick? His checkup was yesterday: 78.9 lbs.
2017-10-03 09:55:39 AM  
4 votes:
In my experience (I've had several cats over the years) the solution is quite simple: give them access to unlimited amounts of food.

When I got my current cat from the shelter, they warned me not to feed her too much because sterilised female cats have a tendency to get overweight. She was already a bit on the chubby side when I got her.  Now, almost 2 years later she's as healthy as they get, not a gram too much on her.

She gets one pouch of meat every night, and I make sure there's always kibble in her bowl. We've done this with every cat we've had, never had a fat cat. The current oldest is 17 and still going strong. As soon as they learn to trust that food is always available they stop stuffing themselves and just eat what they need.
2017-10-03 01:25:44 PM  
3 votes:
Stop feeding your cats crappy grain-filled and dried food.  Cats don't need grain.  Look at the labels and see how much is in most of the well-known brands.  Cats don't need that much farking grain every day.  I don't need that much grain every day.  It's in there because it's a cheapass filler.

My cats when I was growing up ate it.  I looked at pictures of them the other day and was amazed how overweight they look next to my current cat.  He's holding steady at around 8~9 pounds...I'm sad that we didn't know better.  He also doesn't graze.  Quarter of a 3-oz can of gooshyfood every few hours.  If you're at work and can't come home to do that, get him a timed feeder.  It's your cat's quality of life here.

On top of that, a diet of only dried food will dehydrate your cat, who gets (is supposed to get) a large amount of his daily water intake from his prey.  Drinking water from his bowl is not enough, especially as cats have a low thirst drive to begin with.  In the long run this is a contributing factor to renal failure, a really common and painful death for older cats...it may not be preventable, but you can at least do what you can to slow it down.

My vet told me nothing about any of this.  Recommended the Science Diet kidney food for my guy.  Fortunately he won't eat it anyway.  I went ahead and researched the most reputable sources I could find, and still took the info with a grain of salt.  My buddy's coat is soft and sleek.  His weight is good.  He's outlived my other cats, and he's still surprising me with how resilient he is, for now.  I hope he stays that way, and I'm doing my very best for him.

Poor kitties. :(
2017-10-03 07:38:00 AM  
3 votes:
DNRTFA, but people avoiding criticism that hits to close to home shouldn't surprise anyone.
2017-10-03 08:37:33 AM  
2 votes:

August11: A vet not being able to talk to you about your overweight animal is like an airline pilot not knowing how to put down the landing gear--it is an essential part of the job. Get a new vet.

If my Labrador is one hair over 80 lbs, I get yelled at by my vet. She is horrible. She sternly lectures me on the damage resulting from a dog's extra pounds. Then she asks questions like, "Do you want him to have a healthy life?" and "Who makes the decisions? You? Or him?" Brutal. It has only happened once. And why I'm getting a kick? His checkup was yesterday: 78.9 lbs.


I find it more likely folks that are told by their vets and completely ignore and pretend they never heard.
2017-10-03 08:06:47 AM  
2 votes:

August11: A vet not being able to talk to you about your overweight animal is like an airline pilot not knowing how to put down the landing gear--it is an essential part of the job. Get a new vet.


My cat was having trouble urinating.  It turned out she had some matting in her twat.  When the vet explained it to me, he stumbled over the word "vagina".  It struck me as very amateurish.
2017-10-03 05:16:16 PM  
1 vote:

Panatheist: one source is the vet that says use Science Diet
one source is online that says "Vets are paid to tell you that but don't really know, use blue buffalo instead"
yet another source says "the only way to properly feed your cat is to grind up food yourself and add supplements to it"
and it's not like you can really even trust the ingredients list (remember when chinese sourced food poisoned all those pets, bet they didn't list "poison" on the ingredients), and it's unregulated anyway, so whats the point of trusting an ingredients list?

I'm preparing to go the home made food route, in the mean time I split my cats diet between science diet, blue buffalo, and various can foods
/he's a little fat
//don't know if home made will work because he doesn't eat "people food"


It's tricky, I agree.  But there are most certainly brands that are better for your cat than others.  People do a lot of research into these companies -- again, taken with a grain of salt as to how valid that research is.

I figure the best I can hope for is anything that doesn't contain:
Grains
Corn
Rice
Wheat gluten
Cornstarch
Soy flour
Carrageenan (This one's iffy.  I'm not entirely sure about the validity of this being bad for a cat, but why have it there if you don't need it?)
Minimal amounts of filler crap like blueberries and kale (wtf, kale)
Fish (increased chance of tainted food supply; fish isn't good for cats anyway)

And yeah, that's a long list.

My guy eats Fancy Feast Classic.  Yeah, okay, Fancy Feast.  But looking at the label, it's one of the foods I've found to have the least amount of desirable stuff in it.  The by-products...ehh...don't really like that, but it doesn't have carrageenan etiher.  And it's easy to purchase.

Other decent ones:
Weruva
Wellness
Nature's Variety Instinct (Limited Ingredient varieties)

https://www.reviews.com/cat-food/

A better food list.

http://consciouscat.net/2012/03/22/the-best-food-for-your-cat/

It seems like a laundry list of stuff to fill, but there are decent foods out there.  Maybe not perfect, but at least we're trying our best.
2017-10-03 11:57:51 AM  
1 vote:

Cyclonic Cooking Action: Science Diet dry


That's what we feed our cats. Princess, who had a semi-feral adolescence, is trim and uses the kibble only as a supplement to her diet of birds and rodents and who knows what else. I think she's maybe 9 pounds?

Gray Matter, on the other hand, was hand-raised from mere days old by a student in a veterinary tech program and was bottle-fed. He's probably 18 pounds or so, probably should be 3 or 4 less than that.
2017-10-03 09:56:13 AM  
1 vote:
I nicknamed my cat Fat Bastard for a reason...
2017-10-03 07:44:11 AM  
1 vote:

August11: A vet not being able to talk to you about your overweight animal is like an airline pilot not knowing how to put down the landing gear--it is an essential part of the job. Get a new vet.

If my Labrador is one hair over 80 lbs, I get yelled at by my vet. She is horrible. She sternly lectures me on the damage resulting from a dog's extra pounds. Then she asks questions like, "Do you want him to have a healthy life?" and "Who makes the decisions? You? Or him?" Brutal. It has only happened once. And why I'm getting a kick? His checkup was yesterday: 78.9 lbs.


Our vet said "You know, Agi is getting a bit heavy... Is something going on?" Me: "Well, you know the other one has a thyroid tumor, so she's on high calorie food. If I don't put the same food out for all of them, they eat each other's food. Any ideas?" "No, that's the right thing to do."

And, 6 months after the one with the tumor died, I took Agi back for her yearly. "Yeah, she lost that weight quickly once the other passed, didn't she? She looks good now. Back on adult food?" "Yes. Now, she mostly just gnaws at the fur on her belly *points to the denuded stomach*" "You have a cat with serious OCD." "Yes, yes, I do. She prunes her belly to 1/8", and gets upset if I stop her, and it gets worse." "Hmm. Is she throwing up hairballs or anything?" "Nope." Ok, let her have at it, then. If she starts 'branching out' and it gets worse, bring her in right away."

/poor Agi... tiger striped cat with a pink, freckled belly that shows every single freckle
//and 7 toes on each paw
///good vet, though.
 
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