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(Cleveland Plain Dealer)   The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame has confirmed it will announce the nominees for the Class of 2018 on Thursday, Oct. 5. Some leading contenders are, J. Geils Band, LL Cool J and Nine Inch Nails   ( cleveland.com) divider line
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2017-10-02 09:36:14 PM  
15 votes:

Gulper Eel: Fat Old Broad: I haven't been keeping up.  Besides the Monkees, who should be in that isn't?

Joe Jackson
Todd Rundgren
King Crimson
Bernard Purdie
Roxy Music
Brian Eno
Motörhead
The Cure
Tina Turner
Billy Ward and His Dominos
The Replacements
Phil Collins
Little Feat
The Spinners
Dire Straits
Boston
Kate Bush
Barry White
XTC
Squeeze
Junior Walker and the All-Stars
Living Colour


Also, one Alfred Matthew Yankovic is conspicuously absent.
2017-10-02 08:36:18 PM  
13 votes:
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2017-10-02 05:55:22 PM  
8 votes:
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OR GTFO!
2017-10-03 11:52:29 AM  
5 votes:
J. Geils Band absolutely deserves to be in.
Pure garage band attitude and look. Developed a rabid regional following through relentless touring and rocking live shows. Sure, no major hits until Centerfold, but had loads of great songs/hits if you pay attention to anything other than the charts. Drew inspiration from a range of genres from Do Wop, Blues, R&B, Soul and Rock n Roll.
That band epitomizes what Rock and Roll is all about.
2017-10-02 10:13:11 PM  
4 votes:

EvilElecBlanket: Did anyone else stop carrying about this after Rush got in?


Nope.


Time to start letting in the metal bands.

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2017-10-02 08:57:42 PM  
4 votes:

thatguyoverthere70: OR GTFO!


Told the stroy before, Mojo or UNCUT just maybe 3-4 months ago did a piece on the Monkees.  at one point, I think it was Mickey Dolenz, that said of the Monkees' legacy, something like, "I will never understand why we don't get the respect we deserve.  I get it, how people say, "yeah, great songs, but they didn't actually write the songs or play on the records."

"First of all - we ourselves wrote some of those songs.  Second, The Supremes, The Four Tops, The Beach Boys?  How many records did 'The Funk Brothers' or 'The Wrecking Crew' play on that other bands got credit for?  That's what pisses *me* off about the whole, 'yeah but they didn't actually play on their records' thing about us."

Pretty dogshiat class.


Radiohead = don't care, overrated for me

Rage Against The Machine = .............you get it off of 3-4 albums?  I know Nirvana did but RATM is not Nirvana.  a bit of a dogwhistle to me;  the band that talked shiat to power getting a nomination.

Janet Jackson = you can tell the story of quote unquote rock music without her.

The Smiths = .........no Smiths entry until Joy Division.  Period.  many currrent bands cite the Smiths, but the entire ilk of the second wave - and I'd throw in U2 even though they're already in - say JD changed the game.

J. Geils Band = regional act with one big hit

LL Cool J = i guess we do need someone from the liplicking enthusiast community.

Nine Inch Nails = not my thing, I don't think deserving but would also have no real issue if they (HIM) got in.  which kinda goes to the Monkees thing - how many iterations did NIN have?
2017-10-02 08:55:10 PM  
4 votes:

Fat Old Broad: I haven't been keeping up.  Besides the Monkees, who should be in that isn't?


Roxy Music
2017-10-02 08:49:31 PM  
4 votes:

ThirstyCraig: Fat Old Broad: So I googled right after I posted.  Looks like Moody Blues, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest.

Alright Maiden and Priest are good options.


Iron Maiden is the new Rush.  They've had a consistent following for decades and always draw huge concert crowds with ZERO radio play or respect from RS.
2017-10-02 08:28:10 PM  
4 votes:
Did anyone else stop carrying about this after Rush got in?
2017-10-02 06:03:32 PM  
4 votes:
I loved the work NIN did with LL Cool J...

/oxford comma
//use it
///and these things (...)  they come in threes too
2017-10-02 10:52:48 PM  
3 votes:
Rock & Roll and LL Cool J do not belong in the same sentence.
2017-10-02 10:29:11 PM  
3 votes:

LewDux: Still no place for Rush


They were inducted in 2013

On a Rush related prog rock themed note: Yes was inducted in 2017 and Geddy Lee played Roundabout with them.
2017-10-02 10:12:04 PM  
3 votes:

Gulper Eel: Fat Old Broad: I haven't been keeping up.  Besides the Monkees, who should be in that isn't?

Joe Jackson
Todd Rundgren
King Crimson
Bernard Purdie
Roxy Music
Brian Eno
Motörhead
The Cure
Tina Turner
Billy Ward and His Dominos
The Replacements
Phil Collins
Little Feat
The Spinners
Dire Straits
Boston
Kate Bush
Barry White
XTC
Squeeze
Junior Walker and the All-Stars
Living Colour


Good choices, let me add:

Jethro Farking Tull
2017-10-02 09:41:48 PM  
3 votes:

rickythepenguin: thatguyoverthere70: OR GTFO!

Told the stroy before, Mojo or UNCUT just maybe 3-4 months ago did a piece on the Monkees.  at one point, I think it was Mickey Dolenz, that said of the Monkees' legacy, something like, "I will never understand why we don't get the respect we deserve.  I get it, how people say, "yeah, great songs, but they didn't actually write the songs or play on the records."

"First of all - we ourselves wrote some of those songs.  Second, The Supremes, The Four Tops, The Beach Boys?  How many records did 'The Funk Brothers' or 'The Wrecking Crew' play on that other bands got credit for?  That's what pisses *me* off about the whole, 'yeah but they didn't actually play on their records' thing about us."

Pretty dogshiat class.


Radiohead = don't care, overrated for me

Rage Against The Machine = .............you get it off of 3-4 albums?  I know Nirvana did but RATM is not Nirvana.  a bit of a dogwhistle to me;  the band that talked shiat to power getting a nomination.

Janet Jackson = you can tell the story of quote unquote rock music without her.

The Smiths = .........no Smiths entry until Joy Division.  Period.  many currrent bands cite the Smiths, but the entire ilk of the second wave - and I'd throw in U2 even though they're already in - say JD changed the game.

J. Geils Band = regional act with one big hit

LL Cool J = i guess we do need someone from the liplicking enthusiast community.

Nine Inch Nails = not my thing, I don't think deserving but would also have no real issue if they (HIM) got in.  which kinda goes to the Monkees thing - how many iterations did NIN have?


I'd go with Radiohead as a shoo-in, also the Smiths. J. Geils had more than one hit.
2017-10-02 09:17:09 PM  
3 votes:

Fat Old Broad: I haven't been keeping up.  Besides the Monkees, who should be in that isn't?


Joe Jackson
Todd Rundgren
King Crimson
Bernard Purdie
Roxy Music
Brian Eno
Motörhead
The Cure
Tina Turner
Billy Ward and His Dominos
The Replacements
Phil Collins
Little Feat
The Spinners
Dire Straits
Boston
Kate Bush
Barry White
XTC
Squeeze
Junior Walker and the All-Stars
Living Colour
2017-10-02 08:45:32 PM  
3 votes:

GypsyJoker: [upload.wikimedia.org image 307x300][upload.wikimedia.org image 375x375]


This world would be a far better place if Jann Wenner had been gay for Robert Fripp instead of Niles Rodgers...
2017-10-02 08:35:49 PM  
3 votes:
So I googled right after I posted.  Looks like Moody Blues, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest.
2017-10-03 04:43:48 PM  
2 votes:
Frankly, I don't give the RRHoF a second thought....but if you have any doubt about J Geils, do yourself a favor and check out everything before they crossed-over into popdom. Back in the day, it was hard to top J. Geils for house-rocking party music. Their live discs "Full House" and "Blow Your Face Out" should do the trick, if high energy rock and roll with a healthy dose of greasy R&B is in your wheelhouse. Their studio output is very solid with only an occasional minor mis-step (Monkey Island) but most are excellent. Try "Bloodshot".
2017-10-03 04:08:00 AM  
2 votes:

Truthman: Seriously?
J. Geils Band?
That right there cements proof that the Hall of Fame is an absolute joke. A dozen bands already called out are so much more deserving for EVERY reason.


If all you've heard is Centerfold, then I don't blame you for saying that.  Listen to their whole catalog, they were an awesome band and he was a terrific songwriter with more than one hit.
2017-10-02 11:01:58 PM  
2 votes:

thatguyoverthere70: [img.fark.net image 400x210]

OR GTFO!


You may be kidding, but there was a period The Monkees were the only American rock/pop act matching The Beatles in record sales.
2017-10-02 09:53:59 PM  
2 votes:
* Also, kudos for including Junior Walker.
2017-10-02 08:50:15 PM  
2 votes:
Grumble.....I know everyone probably has a band or artist that they loved and it's unfathomable to them that artist or group isn't in, but someone like Radiohead or the J Geils Band could be. It's almost Pavlovian to get irritated by this.
For me, it's Def Leppard.
2017-10-02 08:37:11 PM  
2 votes:
I don't listen to popular music, nor have since about 1982, J Geils is Hall of Fame worthy? The Rock n Roll Hall is about as good nowadays as the WWE's.
2017-10-02 06:09:28 PM  
2 votes:
So one, maybe two rock bands? Or did I miss something with LLCJ?
2017-10-03 07:20:55 PM  
1 vote:

thatguyoverthere70: mcmnky: thatguyoverthere70: [img.fark.net image 400x210]

OR GTFO!

You may be kidding, but there was a period The Monkees were the only American rock/pop act matching The Beatles in record sales.

Not kidding at all, but I believe Mike Nesmith admitted on Facebook or somewhere that he made up that sales stat to see if the media would fact-check him. They didn't, and now it's pretty much accepted as the truth.


" "Larry Harris, co-founder of Casablanca Records, in Behind the Mask: "With my association with Billboard, I was able to get five Kiss albums on the charts at one time; this was around '77, '78. I walked in and gave them inflated sales figures, which they could have easily checked if they chose to but they didn't ... This was happening all over the business" "
2017-10-03 07:17:37 PM  
1 vote:

mcmnky: thatguyoverthere70: [img.fark.net image 400x210]

OR GTFO!

You may be kidding, but there was a period The Monkees were the only American rock/pop act matching The Beatles in record sales.


Not kidding at all, but I believe Mike Nesmith admitted on Facebook or somewhere that he made up that sales stat to see if the media would fact-check him. They didn't, and now it's pretty much accepted as the truth.

Either way, the Monkees rock. Peter Tork plays multiple instruments and auditioned at the recommendation of Stephen Stills. Davy Jones performed in the highest level of professional musical theater, and Mike Nesmith was already a hit writing songwriter. Micky Dolenz came into the group with only acting chops and IMHO has proven himself as one of the better vocalists of his generation... which should be saying something.

They have tons of great songs and classic hits. On their later albums, they did play. As has been noted above, the minute you start excluding bands from the R&RHOF because they didn't play all their instruments on all the tracks of all their albums, you're gonna see some empty spaces in that hall. Did every rap artist in the HOF create the music in every loop and every sample by playing a musical insrument in all of their tracks? I seriously doubt it.
2017-10-03 09:20:48 AM  
1 vote:

karmachameleon: Truthman: Seriously?
J. Geils Band?
That right there cements proof that the Hall of Fame is an absolute joke. A dozen bands already called out are so much more deserving for EVERY reason.

If all you've heard is Centerfold, then I don't blame you for saying that.  Listen to their whole catalog, they were an awesome band and he was a terrific songwriter with more than one hit.


And they were an awesome live band.  Peter Wolf could improv and rhyme with the best of them.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW0hxbrmFhM

And if you don't think Whammer Jammer is one of the most fun songs ever written, there's no hope for you.
2017-10-03 01:08:27 AM  
1 vote:

Duke of Madness Motors: This is the problem with all "hall of fames". Do they only induct the best of the best, the ones that everyone can agree on? No. Too many personal faves of the judges get in.


In this case, I think it's more that the judges' least-liked artists don't get in, regardless of how deserving they are.
2017-10-02 11:03:33 PM  
1 vote:

John Buck 41: Rock & Roll and LL Cool J do not belong in the same sentence.


Now look what you did!  You put them in the same sentence!  What did they do to deserve that?

/ punchy
// perhaps a little tipsy
/:/ thinks the headline should have said "nine inch J nails"
2017-10-02 11:02:54 PM  
1 vote:

Gulper Eel: BKITU: Also, one Alfred Matthew Yankovic is conspicuously absent.

He gets in same year as Tangerine Dream, Brenda Lee and Minor Threat.


Brenda Lee is in. Class of 2002.
2017-10-02 10:39:25 PM  
1 vote:

Hoopy Frood: Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels rocked as hard as anybody in their day, and I don't even see them on any why-aren't-they-in lists.


I think that's a combination of two factors: their heyday was relatively short (because of Mitch accepting that offer to go solo that failed miserably), which means someone that has stroke with the Hall has to fight for them, like Steven Van Zandt did with the Rascals and the Hollies. But Mitch is on record saying there is mutual dislike/hatred between him and some of those people, so the personality conflict alone will keep them out.

Which is a damned shame, because that band kicked ass.
2017-10-02 09:44:36 PM  
1 vote:

Gulper Eel: Fat Old Broad: I haven't been keeping up.  Besides the Monkees, who should be in that isn't?

Joe Jackson
Todd Rundgren
King Crimson
Bernard Purdie
Roxy Music
Brian Eno
Motörhead
The Cure
Tina Turner
Billy Ward and His Dominos
The Replacements
Phil Collins
Little Feat
The Spinners
Dire Straits
Boston
Kate Bush
Barry White
XTC
Squeeze
Junior Walker and the All-Stars
Living Colour


Wow.

I'm surprised by some of the names on this list, especially Rundgren and Eno.
2017-10-02 09:28:11 PM  
1 vote:

Gulper Eel: Fat Old Broad: I haven't been keeping up.  Besides the Monkees, who should be in that isn't?

Joe Jackson
Todd Rundgren
King Crimson
Bernard Purdie
Roxy Music
Brian Eno
Motörhead
The Cure
Tina Turner
Billy Ward and His Dominos
The Replacements
Phil Collins
Little Feat
The Spinners
Dire Straits
Boston
Kate Bush
Barry White
XTC
Squeeze
Junior Walker and the All-Stars
Living Colour


Geez, if you want me to fark you, just ask.
2017-10-02 08:47:28 PM  
1 vote:

ThirstyCraig: I don't listen to popular music, nor have since about 1982, J Geils is Hall of Fame worthy? The Rock n Roll Hall is about as good nowadays as the WWE's.


He recently died, so they can make up for ignoring him all his life by sticking him in there now.

Plus, they have an avalanche of metal acts from the same time period they need to completely ignore, so look for a lot more of this level act nominated until they can skip ahead to the current crap Rolling Stone now idolizes for some reason.
2017-10-02 08:41:55 PM  
1 vote:

Fat Old Broad: So I googled right after I posted.  Looks like Moody Blues, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest.


Alright Maiden and Priest are good options.
2017-10-02 08:32:51 PM  
1 vote:
The least impressive class ever.
2017-10-02 08:30:28 PM  
1 vote:

EvilElecBlanket: Did anyone else stop carrying about this after Rush got in?


I am holding out for Jeff Lynne to be inducted as a producer.  Last year, he was in as a musician.
2017-10-02 06:46:45 PM  
1 vote:
In before someone complains about LL....

nope, too late
 
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