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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Akiva Goldsman assures fans there is a point and central focus to Star Trek: Discovery   ( hollywoodreporter.com) divider line
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2017-10-03 07:37:31 AM  

You Are All Sheep: aside of 'the plot needs this' there's nothing there


You can say that about every story point in the Pilot eps.
 
2017-10-03 09:30:50 AM  

You Are All Sheep: I still don't understand how burnham could be blamed for starting the war when she accidentally killed the klingon (and she knows it was an accident) and tried to shoot first but couldn't then the klingons opened up on them.

aside of 'the plot needs this' there's nothing there that says she started the war.



I think she's believed to have started the war because she killed "T'Kuvma right after he killed Capt. Georgiou. Their mission was to take him alive so they could bargain with the Klingon's for peace. Both Burnham and Georgiou agreed on that part. But, when T'Kuvma killed the Captain you saw Burnham visibly and intentionally change where she aimed her phaser so that it would kill him. And of course, much like they speculated, he was used as a martyr for the Klingons to rally around in their hatred for Star Fleet.
 
2017-10-03 10:04:05 AM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: You Are All Sheep: I still don't understand how burnham could be blamed for starting the war when she accidentally killed the klingon (and she knows it was an accident) and tried to shoot first but couldn't then the klingons opened up on them.

aside of 'the plot needs this' there's nothing there that says she started the war.


I think she's believed to have started the war because she killed "T'Kuvma right after he killed Capt. Georgiou. Their mission was to take him alive so they could bargain with the Klingon's for peace. Both Burnham and Georgiou agreed on that part. But, when T'Kuvma killed the Captain you saw Burnham visibly and intentionally change where she aimed her phaser so that it would kill him. And of course, much like they speculated, he was used as a martyr for the Klingons to rally around in their hatred for Star Fleet.


You also see the phaser's light go from blue (stun) to red (kill). She changed the setting, intending to kill him. That, and her mutiny during a critical moment, are what started the war.
 
2017-10-03 10:39:40 AM  

sno man: Invincible: sno man: Invincible: In canada, we got the first std episode for free. This seems like a terrible decision as ep1 leaves no desire to continue. If it was a two part pilot, why not provide both?

In Canada, we get all the episodes, 2nd was right after the first, last week & 3rd was last night. Space, FTW. But cool story bro!

when your mom pays your cable bill for you, it's not the same as being free. Ctv streaming ep1 was free. Space channel requires cable (including cable box rental) plus the"premium" package. About $120 a month or $30 an episode. Not free.

Meh, near basic cable here, I could pay half what I do and still get space, and it's still way less than a buck twenty.


I live in Iqaluit and space is not $120 / month on OUR cable (for price reference, a 12 pack of cans of Pepsi is $22 at the stores here). would be round $83+tax a month if you rent a receiver here, or you can buy the receiver for about 2 years worth or rentals fees, and save $9 a month afterwards.

space is on the 2nd tier of bell's current satellite  packages, which is around $50-55 a month IIRC.

If it costs you $120 a month you have a horrible provider.
 
2017-10-03 11:01:45 AM  
So my concern with the series, aside of me already paying for netflix thus having paid for this series then being told to buy something else to watch it, is that the reason cbs is going for the cash grab is possibly that they think there won't be a season 2, so get as much $ as you possibly can.

But this does look like a netflix produced series.  the effects are movie quality and I appreciate that.
 
2017-10-03 12:30:57 PM  

WilderKWight: Dingleberry Dickwad: You Are All Sheep: I still don't understand how burnham could be blamed for starting the war when she accidentally killed the klingon (and she knows it was an accident) and tried to shoot first but couldn't then the klingons opened up on them.

aside of 'the plot needs this' there's nothing there that says she started the war.


I think she's believed to have started the war because she killed "T'Kuvma right after he killed Capt. Georgiou. Their mission was to take him alive so they could bargain with the Klingon's for peace. Both Burnham and Georgiou agreed on that part. But, when T'Kuvma killed the Captain you saw Burnham visibly and intentionally change where she aimed her phaser so that it would kill him. And of course, much like they speculated, he was used as a martyr for the Klingons to rally around in their hatred for Star Fleet.

You also see the phaser's light go from blue (stun) to red (kill). She changed the setting, intending to kill him. That, and her mutiny during a critical moment, are what started the war.


Because otherwise the Klingons would never be willing to participate in glorious battle?
 
2017-10-03 12:44:35 PM  

BullBearMS: WilderKWight: Dingleberry Dickwad: You Are All Sheep: I still don't understand how burnham could be blamed for starting the war when she accidentally killed the klingon (and she knows it was an accident) and tried to shoot first but couldn't then the klingons opened up on them.

aside of 'the plot needs this' there's nothing there that says she started the war.


I think she's believed to have started the war because she killed "T'Kuvma right after he killed Capt. Georgiou. Their mission was to take him alive so they could bargain with the Klingon's for peace. Both Burnham and Georgiou agreed on that part. But, when T'Kuvma killed the Captain you saw Burnham visibly and intentionally change where she aimed her phaser so that it would kill him. And of course, much like they speculated, he was used as a martyr for the Klingons to rally around in their hatred for Star Fleet.

You also see the phaser's light go from blue (stun) to red (kill). She changed the setting, intending to kill him. That, and her mutiny during a critical moment, are what started the war.

Because otherwise the Klingons would never be willing to participate in glorious battle?


well not with all that swelling...man they looked like they needed some benadryl.
 
2017-10-03 01:47:30 PM  

You Are All Sheep: I still don't understand how burnham could be blamed for starting the war when she accidentally killed the klingon (and she knows it was an accident) and tried to shoot first but couldn't then the klingons opened up on them.

aside of 'the plot needs this' there's nothing there that says she started the war.


Honestly, I think it is that in everybody else's head she is the scapegoat because she shot the torchbearer.

The Klingons just wanted the war, and got it.

In her head, she is punishing herself because her attempt to stop the war (the mutiny and subsequent capture attempt) failed and killed the person she most looked up to, and a lot of other people.
 
2017-10-03 03:18:07 PM  

You Are All Sheep: BullBearMS: WilderKWight: Dingleberry Dickwad: You Are All Sheep: I still don't understand how burnham could be blamed for starting the war when she accidentally killed the klingon (and she knows it was an accident) and tried to shoot first but couldn't then the klingons opened up on them.

aside of 'the plot needs this' there's nothing there that says she started the war.


I think she's believed to have started the war because she killed "T'Kuvma right after he killed Capt. Georgiou. Their mission was to take him alive so they could bargain with the Klingon's for peace. Both Burnham and Georgiou agreed on that part. But, when T'Kuvma killed the Captain you saw Burnham visibly and intentionally change where she aimed her phaser so that it would kill him. And of course, much like they speculated, he was used as a martyr for the Klingons to rally around in their hatred for Star Fleet.

You also see the phaser's light go from blue (stun) to red (kill). She changed the setting, intending to kill him. That, and her mutiny during a critical moment, are what started the war.

Because otherwise the Klingons would never be willing to participate in glorious battle?

well not with all that swelling...man they looked like they needed some benadryl.


If your Klingon swelling doesn't go down in four episodes... See your doctor!
 
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