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(Deadline)   It's too close to call at the box office as It, Kingsman: The Golden Circle, and American Made are all hovering around $16.5 million in a lackluster weekend. Flatliners flatlines at #5 with $5.5 million, Mother bottoming out to #10 with $1.3 million   ( deadline.com) divider line
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2017-10-01 05:10:19 PM  
i enjoyed the first kingsmen movie way more than i expected i would.

the new one is garbagey bad almost-camp. the burt reynolds guy is an awkward travesty while channing tatum is frozen five minutes after he appears on screen.  the elton john bit was amusing for the first scene then just embarrassing.
i hope they backed a truck up to julianne moore's bank for this.

it's one thing to like what i don't like, it's a whole other thing to like crap projected on the wall.
 
2017-10-01 05:31:21 PM  
I liked Mother.
There, I said it.
 
2017-10-01 05:34:44 PM  

TheGhostofFarkPast: I really want to buy The BossHoss - Word Up. But it's only available on streaming and YouTube.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/VGDcYHfQvy4]

so use this
http://en.savefrom.net/

strip the mp3 from the youtube.


Yea I've done things like that in the past for some songs.  But I'd like to pay the artist for their work.
 
2017-10-01 05:41:49 PM  

thornhill: madethistopost: EdgeRunner: Mugato: EdgeRunner: A remake could only succeed by upping the ante with "Flatliners Xtreme: This time you see full frontal!"

PG-13. And Ellen Page. She comes off as a militant feminist.

See? Total fail. What's next, a Ghostbusters reboot where they don't trap any ghosts?

No,  they pretty much destroyed Ghostbusters with that last feminists crap one where they thought they could dictate what people should want.
The funny part with that is they could have rebooted that one into 3 or 4 high grossing sequels......but nope.

Asking people what they think of the 2016 Ghostbusters is like a Rorschach test. Some people see it as "feminist crap," others just see a lame script.


I really like Mr. Plinkett's breakdown of it. Having not seen it firsthand, I still saw all the flaws within it especially where he points out that they rely too much on ad-libbing as a comedic device especially with actors that can be funny through script.
 
2017-10-01 05:51:03 PM  

madethistopost: EdgeRunner: madethistopost: EdgeRunner: Mugato: EdgeRunner: A remake could only succeed by upping the ante with "Flatliners Xtreme: This time you see full frontal!"

PG-13. And Ellen Page. She comes off as a militant feminist.

See? Total fail. What's next, a Ghostbusters reboot where they don't trap any ghosts?

No,  they pretty much destroyed Ghostbusters with that last feminists crap one where they thought they could dictate what people should want.
The funny part with that is they could have rebooted that one into 3 or 4 high grossing sequels......but nope.

The cast and "feminism" wasn't the problem with nuGhostbusters. The problem was a terrible script and even worse direction. The movie was too flailing and desperate to deliver any kind of coherent grrl power message, never mind land any jokes.

I agree with your points.  But they knew it was a sh*tty movie and tried to force "girl power" on us and tell us it was good for that reason.  IMO


We get it, you rock a fedora and live with your mom.
 
2017-10-01 06:08:24 PM  

Cookbook's Anarchist: thornhill: madethistopost: EdgeRunner: Mugato: EdgeRunner: A remake could only succeed by upping the ante with "Flatliners Xtreme: This time you see full frontal!"

PG-13. And Ellen Page. She comes off as a militant feminist.

See? Total fail. What's next, a Ghostbusters reboot where they don't trap any ghosts?

No,  they pretty much destroyed Ghostbusters with that last feminists crap one where they thought they could dictate what people should want.
The funny part with that is they could have rebooted that one into 3 or 4 high grossing sequels......but nope.

Asking people what they think of the 2016 Ghostbusters is like a Rorschach test. Some people see it as "feminist crap," others just see a lame script.

I really like Mr. Plinkett's breakdown of it. Having not seen it firsthand, I still saw all the flaws within it especially where he points out that they rely too much on ad-libbing as a comedic device especially with actors that can be funny through script.


Here's my quick take:

Like many recent reboots, remakes, decades later sequels, too much time is spent with fan service and call back jokes to the original film. That stuff rarely satisfies anyone, and ironically, depends on viewers having seen the original to get the jokes.

If I were tasked with making a new Ghostbusters film, I'd preserve the concept but set it somewhere that's the complete opposite of New York City, like in Idaho. I also wouldn't have the characters be obvious stand-ins for the originals. And, no knowledge of the original movie would be necessary to get a single joke.

I have nothing against the gimmick of the whole cast being female. And I think all of the women in the movie are highly talented, but were just completely underused.
 
2017-10-01 06:32:18 PM  

Mikey1969: Mugato: Mikey1969: But until we have a new Brat Pack, it's just not gonna work as a remake

The Brat Pack was all those pussies in those pussy John Hughes movies. Flatliners was Kiefer Sutherland, Kevin Bacon, Oliver Platt, one of the lesser Baldwins and Julia Roberts. They could kick the Brat Pack's ass.

Meh, I always considered Kiefer Sutherland and Julia Roberts to be members as well. Still the right generation and the right type of actors.


Julia Roberts came up right as the Brat Pack was declining.
Sutherland was part of those "same age as the Brat Pack, but more brooding and serious" actors like Lou Diamond Phillips, James Spader, and Charlie Sheen back when he still gave a shiat.
 
2017-10-01 06:57:18 PM  
thornhill:

To me, the best way to tackle a remake is something like 21 Jump Street. Same general idea, but with a completely different take on it and maybe one or two subtle callbacks to the original. If you throw in too much fancier of us or recreate too much of the original movie, you end up with the Psycho remake where everyone completely forgets about it in 5 years.
 
2017-10-01 07:24:57 PM  

Mugato: Mikey1969: then I remembered I was spared any previews at It for some reason. Never even heard a hint of consideration for a remake before that.

Really? Every other commercial I fast forward through is for "It".


No, what I was saying is that when I went to see It, there were no previews, no commercials, no "turn off your cell phone", no demo of the sound system, nothing... The movie just started with the production company intros and then the opening credits, it was weird. I'd just said It was at It where I first heard that they were remaking Flatliners, and I was correcting my post.

Sorry for the confusion.
 
2017-10-01 07:26:18 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Mugato: The Brat Pack was all those pussies in those pussy John Hughes movies.

Reminds me of Dogma...

Jay: You know that guy too? That farkin' guy. He made this flick, "16 Candles". Not bad, there's tits in it but no bush. But Ebert over here don't give a shiat about that kind of thing, 'cause he's like, all in love with this John Hughes guy.

[Silent Bob shakes his head with a "whatever" look on his face]

Jay: He goes out and rents, like, every one of his movies. Farkin' "Breakfast Club", where all these stupid kids actually show up for detention. Farkin' "Weird Science", where this babe wants to take her gear off and get down, but oh no, she don't, 'cause it's a PG movie. And then "Pretty in Pink", which I can't even watch with this tubby biatch anymore 'cause every time he gets to the part where the redhead hooks up with her dream guy, he starts sobbin' like a little biatch with a skinned knee and shiat. And there's nothing worse than watching a farkin' fat man weep.

[Silent Bob blows out his cigarette smoke angrily]

Bethany: What exactly brought you to Illinois?

Jay: See, all these movies take place in this small town called Shermer in Illinois, where all the honeys are top-shelf but all the dudes are whiny pussies. Except for Judd Nelson, he was farkin' harsh.


I love that scene SO much!
 
2017-10-01 07:29:00 PM  

thornhill: FLMountainMan: thornhill: madethistopost: EdgeRunner: Mugato: EdgeRunner: A remake could only succeed by upping the ante with "Flatliners Xtreme: This time you see full frontal!"

PG-13. And Ellen Page. She comes off as a militant feminist.

See? Total fail. What's next, a Ghostbusters reboot where they don't trap any ghosts?

No,  they pretty much destroyed Ghostbusters with that last feminists crap one where they thought they could dictate what people should want.
The funny part with that is they could have rebooted that one into 3 or 4 high grossing sequels......but nope.

Asking people what they think of the 2016 Ghostbusters is like a Rorschach test. Some people see it as "feminist crap," others just see a lame script.

When the director is telling people that they hate the movie because it's (supposedly) feminist, when everyone knows it's a dogshiat movie that even the original cast couldn't've done anything with, you have to expect that people will react to the stupid narrative.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

Here's the thing: It was an objectively bad movie - loosely plotted, flat jokes, not many original ideas, etc. - but Americans aren't so discerning when it comes to movies, especially comedies. Case and point are Adam Sandler movies. They are farking god awful but still make a ton of money.

If you truly doubt that Ghostbusters was the victim of misogyny, take a look at the unprecedented negative reaction to the trailer and the comments posted about it.


It was mostly the victim of shiatty writing and shiatty directing. All of the female leads are awesome and fun to watch. And it's not because they put them together, because they've all worked together. The movie flat out sucked.
 
2017-10-01 07:39:26 PM  

thornhill: FLMountainMan: thornhill: madethistopost: EdgeRunner: Mugato: EdgeRunner: A remake could only succeed by upping the ante with "Flatliners Xtreme: This time you see full frontal!"

PG-13. And Ellen Page. She comes off as a militant feminist.

See? Total fail. What's next, a Ghostbusters reboot where they don't trap any ghosts?

No,  they pretty much destroyed Ghostbusters with that last feminists crap one where they thought they could dictate what people should want.
The funny part with that is they could have rebooted that one into 3 or 4 high grossing sequels......but nope.

Asking people what they think of the 2016 Ghostbusters is like a Rorschach test. Some people see it as "feminist crap," others just see a lame script.

When the director is telling people that they hate the movie because it's (supposedly) feminist, when everyone knows it's a dogshiat movie that even the original cast couldn't've done anything with, you have to expect that people will react to the stupid narrative.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

Here's the thing: It was an objectively bad movie - loosely plotted, flat jokes, not many original ideas, etc. - but Americans aren't so discerning when it comes to movies, especially comedies. Case and point are Adam Sandler movies. They are farking god awful but still make a ton of money.

If you truly doubt that Ghostbusters was the victim of misogyny, take a look at the unprecedented negative reaction to the trailer and the comments posted about it.


Less reality-challenged case in point: Ghostbusters 2016 made close to double what Sandler's Pixels did domestically. Most of Sandler's theatrical films have flopped spectacularly in recent years, save for Hotel Transylvania and its sequel, neither of which were "his" movies any more than Frozen was a Josh Gad movie. He's having success on Netflix, but while Kate McKinnon is a rising star on the big screen, it's safe to expect you'll see less and less of Adam Sandler in any upcoming major motion pictures. Failing a major comeback performance, his days as a box office draw are long finished.

As for the "unprecedented" bad response to the Ghostbusters trailer, the original movie (adjusted for inflation) remains the highest-grossing comedy of all time, and thanks to the beloved cartoon series and constant replays of GB 1&2 every Halloween season, it's still a strong pop culture icon. There's been a real hunger to see the series revived or rebooted for decades, but fans wanted a follow up that did justice to the material. The new movie was a lazy, uninspired, incompetent mess, and the trailer was an accurate reflection of just what an unfunny cash grab it was. Naturally it earned a lot of complaints that it looked terrible and disappointing, but Sony had nearly all the legitimate criticism removed and only left up the misogynist comments, in the hopes of manipulating people into championing the movie not for being good, but for being some kind of feminist statement. Extra scenes were also notoriously shoehorned into the film to play up the largely exaggerated controversy, but most moviegoers weren't fooled by Feig and Sony's cynical gender-baiting ploy to save an overbudgeted and underwritten turkey. It apparently worked on you though, so I guess their cheap marketing stunt wasn't a complete waste of time. I wish I could say the same about the movie itself, which neither hilariously good nor laughably bad, but just aggressively mediocre and a chore to sit through.
 
2017-10-01 07:44:07 PM  
Sorry to threadjack but FOX has their season premieres tonight,  and let's just say if you are a Bob's Burgers fan and like to trip acid,  this episode is perfect for you.
 
2017-10-01 07:48:28 PM  
Baaaah, some jackass ruined Flatliners' 0% rating on RT...
 
2017-10-01 08:12:38 PM  

Iczer: Baaaah, some jackass ruined Flatliners' 0% rating on RT...


Armond White?

I just don't think Sony knew what audience they were going after with Flatliners.
The 1990 version was one of those movies that you'd rent if the movie you initially went to the video store to get was already checked out. Or you'd watch if it was on TV on a Saturday afternoon and you didn't have anything else to do. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great. That's not much of a legacy or nostalgia factor.

The trailers for the new version didn't offer anything new, except making everything look more polished and techy, and adding the same jump scares audiences have seen hundreds of times.
 
2017-10-01 08:18:05 PM  

jimmyjackfunk: Sorry to threadjack but FOX has their season premieres tonight,  and let's just say if you are a Bob's Burgers fan and like to trip acid,  this episode is perfect for you.


And Discovery is on tonight. If you're a Star Trek fan and like to hit yourself in the head with a shiny metal hammer, this episode is probably perfect for you.
 
2017-10-01 08:21:41 PM  

Mugato: Averam: I'm confused - why does Fark do a weekly US box office roundup thread? Is there a reason behind it? Does this get discussed publicly a lot in America? Because in the UK I can honestly say I've never seen anyone do anything similar.

Some people are interested in how new movies are doing. I don't understand why people care about how well people throw a ball around. Everyone's different.


I wish the link would be from this website every week.  It's a very good movie site.

http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=19095
 
2017-10-01 08:25:49 PM  

WilderKWight: jimmyjackfunk: Sorry to threadjack but FOX has their season premieres tonight,  and let's just say if you are a Bob's Burgers fan and like to trip acid,  this episode is perfect for you.

And Discovery is on tonight. If you're a Star Trek fan and like to hit yourself in the head with a shiny metal hammer, this episode is probably perfect for you.


Aren't you the guy who was claiming that the Inhumans premiere was better?

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2017-10-01 08:29:23 PM  

thornhill: FLMountainMan: thornhill: madethistopost: EdgeRunner: Mugato: EdgeRunner: A remake could only succeed by upping the ante with "Flatliners Xtreme: This time you see full frontal!"

PG-13. And Ellen Page. She comes off as a militant feminist.

See? Total fail. What's next, a Ghostbusters reboot where they don't trap any ghosts?

No,  they pretty much destroyed Ghostbusters with that last feminists crap one where they thought they could dictate what people should want.
The funny part with that is they could have rebooted that one into 3 or 4 high grossing sequels......but nope.

Asking people what they think of the 2016 Ghostbusters is like a Rorschach test. Some people see it as "feminist crap," others just see a lame script.

When the director is telling people that they hate the movie because it's (supposedly) feminist, when everyone knows it's a dogshiat movie that even the original cast couldn't've done anything with, you have to expect that people will react to the stupid narrative.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

Here's the thing: It was an objectively bad movie - loosely plotted, flat jokes, not many original ideas, etc. - but Americans aren't so discerning when it comes to movies, especially comedies. Case and point are Adam Sandler movies. They are farking god awful but still make a ton of money.

If you truly doubt that Ghostbusters was the victim of misogyny, take a look at the unprecedented negative reaction to the trailer and the comments posted about it.


You can find people on the internet who think Obama is a member of NAMBLA.  That does not mean a significant number of Americans believe Obama is a member of NAMBLA.

And you don't need to flagellate yourself for being American.  If you spend some time overseas, you'll see that the world loves stupid movies.
 
2017-10-01 08:30:10 PM  

jimmyjackfunk: Sorry to threadjack but FOX has their season premieres tonight,  and let's just say if you are a Bob's Burgers fan and like to trip acid,  this episode is perfect for you.


It's nice that the series finally gets the love it deserves. I can remember all the hate it got for the animation style back in season one.

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2017-10-01 08:30:53 PM  

thornhill: madethistopost: EdgeRunner: Mugato: EdgeRunner: A remake could only succeed by upping the ante with "Flatliners Xtreme: This time you see full frontal!"

PG-13. And Ellen Page. She comes off as a militant feminist.

See? Total fail. What's next, a Ghostbusters reboot where they don't trap any ghosts?

No,  they pretty much destroyed Ghostbusters with that last feminists crap one where they thought they could dictate what people should want.
The funny part with that is they could have rebooted that one into 3 or 4 high grossing sequels......but nope.

Asking people what they think of the 2016 Ghostbusters is like a Rorschach test. Some people see it as "feminist crap," others just see a lame script.


I saw it as a way to de-friend a bunch of whiners and leave every GB forum because of the embarrassing wave of complete whiny fanboys screaming at Dan Akroyd and telling Ernie Hudson he "wasn't a true fan "
You don't have to like the movie, but once you start berating the OG cast and making a actress leave twitter, go outside, start your car, get out and suck on the pipe, because every decision you've made in life was a mistake.
GB was great, but how do you hate a movie you've never even seen yet?
I have no time in my life for Nerd Rage anymore.
 
2017-10-01 08:31:45 PM  
Cuz I ff commercials, and depend on these to tell me what movies I want to get from the library.

/ leech?  me?  Nope, I pay all applicable taxes
// and support my local library
/// especially support my local library
//// renting movies for a week for $0 cost is a win for me
 
2017-10-01 08:57:24 PM  
People are still complaining about the Ghostbusters remake?
Christ almighty, let it go. I didn't care for it, but it didn't ruin your childhood. You did.
 
2017-10-01 09:12:45 PM  

BullBearMS: If nothing at the box office tickles your fancy, wander over to the Red Box.

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I really enjoyed it.


very good movie, i went into it not knowing its a true story so didn't know the ending. well done
 
2017-10-01 09:24:59 PM  

stoli n coke: People are still complaining about the Ghostbusters remake?
Christ almighty, let it go. I didn't care for it, but it didn't ruin your childhood. You did.


Dude, people also still complain about the Star Wars prequels, the Matrix and Highlander sequels, and even Waterworld, Showgirls and Howard the Duck. Good movies are entertaining to watch, bad movies are entertaining to make fun of. If you don't like it, boycott Rifftrax and James Franco's upcoming The Disaster Artist. I'm sure that'll prove... something. To somebody. Somehow.
 
2017-10-01 09:37:47 PM  

EdgeRunner: Dude, people also still complain about the Star Wars prequels, the Matrix and Highlander sequels, and even Waterworld, Showgirls and Howard the Duck.


Complaining about the quality of the movie would be fine.

For instance, having some dude wandering around and planting devices that summon ghosts at the start of the film was a pretty pointless plot distraction.

However, all the fedora'ed neckbeards still complaining that they got called out for misogyny a freaking year later is a horse of a different color. If they hadn't been absolutely correct in their assessment of you, you would have let it go by now.
 
2017-10-01 09:44:18 PM  

EdgeRunner: stoli n coke: People are still complaining about the Ghostbusters remake?
Christ almighty, let it go. I didn't care for it, but it didn't ruin your childhood. You did.

Dude, people also still complain about the Star Wars prequels, the Matrix and Highlander sequels, and even Waterworld, Showgirls and Howard the Duck. Good movies are entertaining to watch, bad movies are entertaining to make fun of. If you don't like it, boycott Rifftrax and James Franco's upcoming The Disaster Artist. I'm sure that'll prove... something. To somebody. Somehow.


Highlander and the Matrix had no sequels, Waterworld was more dogged out for going massively over budget, and Showgirls falls into the Troll 2 "So bad it's good" territory.
 
2017-10-01 09:47:21 PM  

BullBearMS: If nothing at the box office tickles your fancy, wander over to the Red Box.


Red Box has fark all for a movie selection. And games, forget about it.
 
2017-10-01 09:48:59 PM  

BullBearMS: However, all the fedora'ed neckbeards still complaining that they got called out for misogyny a freaking year later is a horse of a different color. If they hadn't been absolutely correct in their assessment of you, you would have let it go by now.


We were talking about Flatliners and someone just brought it up.
 
2017-10-01 09:50:31 PM  

jimmyjackfunk: Sorry to threadjack but FOX has their season premieres tonight,  and let's just say if you are a Bob's Burgers fan and like to trip acid,  this episode is perfect for you.


I tried to watch this earlier, but apparently FOX has been dropped from AT&T. NOoo!!! It's the only show I watch, but I have to keep the cable for my family :/
 
2017-10-01 09:57:58 PM  

BullBearMS: EdgeRunner: Dude, people also still complain about the Star Wars prequels, the Matrix and Highlander sequels, and even Waterworld, Showgirls and Howard the Duck.

Complaining about the quality of the movie would be fine.

For instance, having some dude wandering around and planting devices that summon ghosts at the start of the film was a pretty pointless plot distraction.

However, all the fedora'ed neckbeards still complaining that they got called out for misogyny a freaking year later is a horse of a different color. If they hadn't been absolutely correct in their assessment of you, you would have let it go by now.


That's what you're getting from this thread? Ha! The reality is closer to this: Sony made yet another bad remake that was doomed to flop, but for GB they tried exploiting feminism as a last ditch marketing tool to recoup their investment, and some people like yourself still can't admit you were dumb enough to fall for it. The "vast misogynist conspiracy" couldn't stop Mad Max: Fury Road from becoming a hit, and Wonder Woman is both a box office and fan favorite phenomenon, even though it blatantly has "Woman" right there in the title. It's almost like gender politics have no marked effect on whether a movie hits or misses, and success rides more on whether it's actually entertaining or not.

But let me repeat this again since you apparently missed it: the cast was NOT the problem with GB. If anything, I liked most of the actresses even more than I did previously, especially Leslie Jones, because they did their damnedest with some incredibly substandard material and any merits the film had were supplied solely by the performers. The blame for that movie's suckage rests heavily and almost entirely on Paul Feig, who should be called out for misogyny himself for trying to pin his failure on his female cast.
 
2017-10-01 10:05:11 PM  

solokumba: I liked Mother.
There, I said it.


So did I. I finally saw it yesterday, knew that I was in for craziness, and came out of the theater smiling. I guess it helps that I've always been a David Lynch fan, so Aronofsky's brand of weirdness is right up my alley.

/I also really liked Black Swan, similarities to Perfect Blue notwithstanding.
 
2017-10-01 10:08:15 PM  

Mugato: BullBearMS: However, all the fedora'ed neckbeards still complaining that they got called out for misogyny a freaking year later is a horse of a different color. If they hadn't been absolutely correct in their assessment of you, you would have let it go by now.

We were talking about Flatliners and someone just brought it up.


When the same people bring it up over and over and over with very little provocation, it has long since crossed over into "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

It's been over a year. At this point if you still can't let it go, then the problem is that their assessment of you was just a little too

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2017-10-01 10:09:35 PM  

Warrior Kermit: BullBearMS: If nothing at the box office tickles your fancy, wander over to the Red Box.

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I really enjoyed it.

very good movie, i went into it not knowing its a true story so didn't know the ending. well done


It's nice to see someone come up with a fresh take on something that's been done a million times.

Kind of like Get Out put a fresh spin on horror earlier this year.
 
2017-10-01 10:16:59 PM  

BullBearMS: Mugato: BullBearMS: However, all the fedora'ed neckbeards still complaining that they got called out for misogyny a freaking year later is a horse of a different color. If they hadn't been absolutely correct in their assessment of you, you would have let it go by now.

We were talking about Flatliners and someone just brought it up.

When the same people bring it up over and over and over with very little provocation, it has long since crossed over into "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

It's been over a year. At this point if you still can't let it go, then the problem is that their assessment of you was just a little too

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I'll cop to it. I brought it up as a joking reference to another recent remake that didn't get what made the original appealing. But your desperate insistance that any mention of GB has to be MISOGYNY says far more about you than me.  Like you said, the film is only a year old, which isn't that old at all. By your measure, no one's allowed to make fun of Batman v Superman anymore either, and that's just crazy talk and you're a big dumb goofyhead.

Unless your mom's name is Martha, that is, in which case you're my newest bestest friend and I love you, man.
 
2017-10-01 10:25:57 PM  

EdgeRunner: your desperate insistance that any mention of GB has to be MISOGYNY says far more about you than me


Nope. I have no problem with people who didn't care for the movie. It had plenty of flaws.
 
2017-10-01 10:38:15 PM  

BullBearMS: EdgeRunner: your desperate insistance that any mention of GB has to be MISOGYNY says far more about you than me

Nope. I have no problem with people who didn't care for the movie. It had plenty of flaws.


Yeah yeah yeah, just get to the important part already and tell me if your mom's name is Martha. I can't just sit here with my mouth open all night wondering if we're supposed to touch tongues or not. My tonsils are drying out.
 
2017-10-01 10:55:37 PM  

EdgeRunner: BullBearMS: EdgeRunner: your desperate insistance that any mention of GB has to be MISOGYNY says far more about you than me

Nope. I have no problem with people who didn't care for the movie. It had plenty of flaws.

Yeah yeah yeah, just get to the important part already and tell me if your mom's name is Martha. I can't just sit here with my mouth open all night wondering if we're supposed to touch tongues or not. My tonsils are drying out.


If you're so incredibly butthurt that the people involved with Ghostbusters called out some asshat neckbeards for their behavior well over a year ago, to the point where you can't stop bringing it up any time there is even a tangential excuse to do so...

That arrow had to have struck very close to home.
 
2017-10-01 11:04:00 PM  

BullBearMS: EdgeRunner: BullBearMS: EdgeRunner: your desperate insistance that any mention of GB has to be MISOGYNY says far more about you than me

Nope. I have no problem with people who didn't care for the movie. It had plenty of flaws.

Yeah yeah yeah, just get to the important part already and tell me if your mom's name is Martha. I can't just sit here with my mouth open all night wondering if we're supposed to touch tongues or not. My tonsils are drying out.

If you're so incredibly butthurt that the people involved with Ghostbusters called out some asshat neckbeards for their behavior well over a year ago, to the point where you can't stop bringing it up any time there is even a tangential excuse to do so...

That arrow had to have struck very close to home.


And you're assuming an awful lot just to defend Sony's cynical and ultimately ineffectual marketing team, which can only mean one thing: Your mom's name isn't Martha at all! Eat explosive kryptonite dildos, you dirty son of a not-Martha!
 
2017-10-01 11:24:29 PM  

BullBearMS: WilderKWight: jimmyjackfunk: Sorry to threadjack but FOX has their season premieres tonight,  and let's just say if you are a Bob's Burgers fan and like to trip acid,  this episode is perfect for you.

And Discovery is on tonight. If you're a Star Trek fan and like to hit yourself in the head with a shiny metal hammer, this episode is probably perfect for you.

Aren't you the guy who was claiming that the Inhumans premiere was better?

[img.fark.net image 500x314][img.fark.net image 497x368]


I can't help but notice your careful cropping of the audience ratings out of those clips.
 
2017-10-02 12:14:55 AM  

thornhill: FLMountainMan: thornhill: madethistopost: EdgeRunner: Mugato: EdgeRunner: A remake could only succeed by upping the ante with "Flatliners Xtreme: This time you see full frontal!"

PG-13. And Ellen Page. She comes off as a militant feminist.

See? Total fail. What's next, a Ghostbusters reboot where they don't trap any ghosts?

No,  they pretty much destroyed Ghostbusters with that last feminists crap one where they thought they could dictate what people should want.
The funny part with that is they could have rebooted that one into 3 or 4 high grossing sequels......but nope.

Asking people what they think of the 2016 Ghostbusters is like a Rorschach test. Some people see it as "feminist crap," others just see a lame script.

When the director is telling people that they hate the movie because it's (supposedly) feminist, when everyone knows it's a dogshiat movie that even the original cast couldn't've done anything with, you have to expect that people will react to the stupid narrative.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

Here's the thing: It was an objectively bad movie - loosely plotted, flat jokes, not many original ideas, etc. - but Americans aren't so discerning when it comes to movies, especially comedies. Case and point are Adam Sandler movies. They are farking god awful but still make a ton of money.

If you truly doubt that Ghostbusters was the victim of misogyny, take a look at the unprecedented negative reaction to the trailer and the comments posted about it.


Yeah...no.

Most of that was generated by the studio.  They erased general negative reviews and left the hate.
These guys might not be your bag, but they painfully explain SONY s meddling on shaping that narrative

Scientist Man Analyzes Ghostbusters (2016)
Youtube UWROBiX1eSc
 
2017-10-02 12:21:35 AM  

WilderKWight: BullBearMS: WilderKWight: jimmyjackfunk: Sorry to threadjack but FOX has their season premieres tonight,  and let's just say if you are a Bob's Burgers fan and like to trip acid,  this episode is perfect for you.

And Discovery is on tonight. If you're a Star Trek fan and like to hit yourself in the head with a shiny metal hammer, this episode is probably perfect for you.

Aren't you the guy who was claiming that the Inhumans premiere was better?

[img.fark.net image 500x314][img.fark.net image 497x368]

I can't help but notice your careful cropping of the audience ratings out of those clips.


Are you under the impression that a show that only four percent of the "professional" critics have something nice to say about is a good show?

Especially after the same showrunner who made Iron Fist screws the big teleporting pooch a second time in a row?
 
2017-10-02 12:26:14 AM  

Witty_Retort: Most of that was generated by the studio.


Yea, no.

The people involved with the film called out some shiatty and very real behavior towards the cast of their film.

Kind of like Dan Harmon calling out the behavior of people towards the new female writers on Rick and Morty.

In both cases, good for them.

There's a big difference between criticizing the work and criticizing the gender of the people doing the work.
 
2017-10-02 12:32:13 AM  

Averam: Mugato: Averam: I'm confused - why does Fark do a weekly US box office roundup thread? Is there a reason behind it? Does this get discussed publicly a lot in America? Because in the UK I can honestly say I've never seen anyone do anything similar.

Some people are interested in how new movies are doing. I don't understand why people care about how well people throw a ball around. Everyone's different.

That's fair enough - it was a genuine question btw, not snark. I'm also not a fan of any of the various forms of sportsball, so I don't get that either.


I've always taken it as a simple conversation starter meant to prompt us to talk about whatever flicks are out.
 
2017-10-02 01:26:35 AM  
Nina Dobrev Uses Conan As Her Human Yoga Wall - CONAN on TBS
Youtube voeoQq4864c
/why not?
 
2017-10-02 01:37:52 AM  

BullBearMS: Witty_Retort: Most of that was generated by the studio.

Yea, no.

The people involved with the film called out some shiatty and very real behavior towards the cast of their film.

Kind of like Dan Harmon calling out the behavior of people towards the new female writers on Rick and Morty.

In both cases, good for them.

There's a big difference between criticizing the work and criticizing the gender of the people doing the work.


But in GBs case, Sony amplified the hate in order to try to ride controversy to profits.  They deleted comments.  They propped up YouTube feminists. They generated articles.  They encouraged the hate.
 
2017-10-02 02:01:34 AM  

Witty_Retort: BullBearMS: Witty_Retort: Most of that was generated by the studio.

Yea, no.

The people involved with the film called out some shiatty and very real behavior towards the cast of their film.

Kind of like Dan Harmon calling out the behavior of people towards the new female writers on Rick and Morty.

In both cases, good for them.

There's a big difference between criticizing the work and criticizing the gender of the people doing the work.

But in GBs case, Sony amplified the hate in order to try to ride controversy to profits.  They deleted comments.  They propped up YouTube feminists. They generated articles.  They encouraged the hate.


Sony did not encourage asshat fedora wearing neckbeards to break into one of the cast member's online accounts and spread around their naked selfies.

That's the sort of extremest behavior that deserves to be called out.

Again, good for Sony for standing up for it's employees.
 
2017-10-02 02:19:20 AM  

BullBearMS: Witty_Retort: Most of that was generated by the studio.

Yea, no.

The people involved with the film called out some shiatty and very real behavior towards the cast of their film.

Kind of like Dan Harmon calling out the behavior of people towards the new female writers on Rick and Morty.

In both cases, good for them.

There's a big difference between criticizing the work and criticizing the gender of the people doing the work.


Why is it so hard for you to accept that the studio gratefully latched onto the fringe misogynist comments, and tried to use them to shout down any legitimate criticism? They didn't just call out the comment writers, they drummed up a whole #proudtobeaghostbuster campaign and sent the cast out to pose with all the multiple crowds of little girls they were "inspiring" before the movie had even been released, hoping they could shame people out of saying anything bad about the movie at least long enough to give it a strong opening weekend (it worked on several critics, actually, who wrote long paragraphs about how empowering GB was while carefully stepping around what a poorly edited, joke-starved nothing of a movie it was).

Deceptive marketing isn't anything new for Sony, you know. David Manning wasn't a real reviewer, alliwantforxmasisapsp.com wasn't a real fan page by real kids praising the new Playstation, and Feig and Sony's slapback against all the misogyny, oh so much misogyny, was never a sincere response but just a pandering attempt at deflection. If they were truly offended, Sony would have had the sexist comments taken down along with the rest of the complaints, not enshrined them with direct callouts within the movie itself. For all your moaning about people being too sensitive about the subject, you're the one who seems to have a personal stake in still trying to champion Sony's fumbling, transparent attempt to boost ticket sales with deliberately exaggerated controversy. C'mon, it's been like a whole entire year and then some, man. Just accept you got played and move on already.
 
2017-10-02 02:36:59 AM  

EdgeRunner: Why is it so hard for you to accept that the studio gratefully latched onto the fringe misogynist comments, and tried to use them to shout down any legitimate criticism?


Legitimate criticism of what?

Why is it so hard to admit some of the asshat fedora wearing neckbeard crowd deserved to be called out for their behavior?

Why is it hard to admit that this behavior started long before there was a movie screening to criticize?

Did they call you out, personally? Because that is literally the only reason I can imagine that someone (who isn't named Trump) would be incapable of letting it go more than a year later.
 
2017-10-02 08:20:51 AM  
I think I've seen American Made, how many rags to riches to rags movies about drugs do we need?
 
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