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2017-09-30 01:53:20 PM  

FarkaDark: James Cameron's Avatar franchise is about to become one of the most expensive series of films ever made.

Umh, does one not need a 2nd movie. Ideally, not a franchise until the 3rd installment.
Last I heard that sequel is still a long ways off.


the 3rd was simultaneously greenlit with the 2nd
 
2017-09-30 02:04:08 PM  

drewsclues: and if just one of them does half as well as the first film, it will have been worth it.


Yeahhhhh, no. Half the domestic of the first would be $380 million, half the foreign would be $1 billion. $380m / 2 + $1bn / 3 =~ $713 million. They're gonna need to do much better than that. Plus, the Chinese have indicated they plan to get even stingier about non-Chinese studios' cut of their box office, which means it will be a much tougher market for Avatar movies than it was in 2009.
 
2017-09-30 02:28:44 PM  
None of this shiat looks like a JoJo reference what the hell
 
2017-09-30 02:29:21 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: None of this shiat looks like a JoJo reference what the hell


not even in a roundabout way
 
2017-09-30 02:47:27 PM  

The Bestest: FarkaDark: James Cameron's Avatar franchise is about to become one of the most expensive series of films ever made.

Umh, does one not need a 2nd movie. Ideally, not a franchise until the 3rd installment.
Last I heard that sequel is still a long ways off.

the 3rd was simultaneously greenlit with the 2nd


Bring greenlit is not the same thing as being released or made. Much like being engaged is not the same as married or intending to write a novel is the same as being an author.
My only point being I will believe it when I see it. (PS: I did not see the 1st).
 
2017-09-30 03:20:37 PM  

puckrock2000: soporific:
However, while it became one of the biggest movies ever, it's also one we've largely forgotten. The movie didn't become iconic the way Titanic, Terminator, and Aliens became iconic. When was the last time you quoted Avatar? Did you ever quote Avatar?

Even better - pop quiz: without resorting to the Googles, can you name the main character and who played him?


Yes, Jake Sully, as in, "I see you, Jake Sully".

But I literally saw it in theaters at least 10 times. I did so precisely because it was glorious to behold in 3D, an obvious masterclass in how to use that technology.... but the story was pretty cookie cutter other than that (with a few minor nice creative details for the setting/world building). I knew at home it was just not going to be the same, and I had better enjoy the rollercoaster for my eyeballs in the theater while I could. True enough, while I saw it 10+ times in the theater, I haven't sat through the whole movie even one single time at home.
 
2017-09-30 05:23:13 PM  
Avatar was a great movie going experience and I can't farking wait to see the advances that have been made in the visuals department.
 
2017-09-30 05:41:09 PM  

Army dude: Avatar was a great movie going experience and I can't farking wait to see the advances that have been made in the visuals department.


So much this. Fark the haters.
 
2017-09-30 05:51:36 PM  
When it first came out and I told people I hated it, the reply was usually "Did you see it in 3D?"

/I did see it in 3D
 
2017-09-30 08:19:12 PM  
For me Avatar was all about the 3d world and total immersion in the world the movie depicted. It completely delivered on that. No movie since has leveraged 3d that well, although some have come close like Gravity.

Who goes to see a Cameron movie for the deep characters and story? No one.

The problem I think he'll have now is that with the novelty of having that total immersion gone, people are going to need more if he hopes to impress them. So my prediction:
Avatar 2 is a big hit and makes back the cost of all the sequels. This is because it brings in new audiences who never saw the first one in the theater and people interested in seeing how the sequel plays out. Then after that each sequel makes far less than the previous one, because boredom sets in. With no compelling story or characters, audiences lose interest. Fox and Cameron couldn't care less though since all the money they want has already been made.
 
2017-09-30 08:47:43 PM  
So, we have to wait until 5 for the relativistic rock to be slammed into the planet? Which one has the alien engineers who made the various species neuronally compatible show up?
 
2017-09-30 09:54:10 PM  

Army dude: Avatar was a great movie going experience and I can't farking wait to see the advances that have been made in the visuals department.


So it'll be Valerian, only more blue?
 
2017-09-30 10:20:16 PM  

mongbiohazard: puckrock2000: soporific:
However, while it became one of the biggest movies ever, it's also one we've largely forgotten. The movie didn't become iconic the way Titanic, Terminator, and Aliens became iconic. When was the last time you quoted Avatar? Did you ever quote Avatar?

Even better - pop quiz: without resorting to the Googles, can you name the main character and who played him?

Yes, Jake Sully, as in, "I see you, Jake Sully".

But I literally saw it in theaters at least 10 times. I did so precisely because it was glorious to behold in 3D, an obvious masterclass in how to use that technology.... but the story was pretty cookie cutter other than that (with a few minor nice creative details for the setting/world building). I knew at home it was just not going to be the same, and I had better enjoy the rollercoaster for my eyeballs in the theater while I could. True enough, while I saw it 10+ times in the theater, I haven't sat through the whole movie even one single time at home.


Wait wait wait. You saw Avatar AT LEAST 10 times in the theater?
 
2017-09-30 10:38:37 PM  
I think this franchise will be a Big Generator for the studio...

Brynden Rivers: drewsclues: and if just one of them does half as well as the first film, it will have been worth it.

Yeahhhhh, no. ...Plus, the Chinese have indicated ...


That their viewing audience will pay to see american movies.  Especially if you throw them a bone.  IDK, some essential tech that the protagonists need that was created in China.  That's all it takes.
 
2017-09-30 10:40:22 PM  

drewogatory: mongbiohazard: puckrock2000: soporific:
However, while it became one of the biggest movies ever, it's also one we've largely forgotten. The movie didn't become iconic the way Titanic, Terminator, and Aliens became iconic. When was the last time you quoted Avatar? Did you ever quote Avatar?

Even better - pop quiz: without resorting to the Googles, can you name the main character and who played him?

Yes, Jake Sully, as in, "I see you, Jake Sully".

But I literally saw it in theaters at least 10 times. I did so precisely because it was glorious to behold in 3D, an obvious masterclass in how to use that technology.... but the story was pretty cookie cutter other than that (with a few minor nice creative details for the setting/world building). I knew at home it was just not going to be the same, and I had better enjoy the rollercoaster for my eyeballs in the theater while I could. True enough, while I saw it 10+ times in the theater, I haven't sat through the whole movie even one single time at home.

Wait wait wait. You saw Avatar AT LEAST 10 times in the theater?


Yeah, at least. Always in 3D. once in Imax. It's like a rollercoaster for your eyeballs, and I knew the only chance I had to enjoy that experience was in the theater, so I took advantage while I could.

After that.... on home media on my 2D movie..... MEH. Worth watching once, for being well-executed scifi, but nothing groundbreaking in ways other than visuals.
 
2017-09-30 11:44:54 PM  
Am I missing anything by never having seen Avatar?

/Yeah, I'm THAT guy.
 
2017-09-30 11:48:36 PM  
Roger Dean is awesome. Get out of here with that noise.
 
2017-09-30 11:49:49 PM  

Dave and the Mission: I think this franchise will be a Big Generator for the studio...

Brynden Rivers: drewsclues: and if just one of them does half as well as the first film, it will have been worth it.

Yeahhhhh, no. ...Plus, the Chinese have indicated ...

That their viewing audience will pay to see american movies.


Not forever. Certainly not to the degree Hollywood is accustomed to. You evidently haven't been paying attention to the news on this: the domestic Chinese film industry is booming. Sure, foreign films still mostly dominate, but that will go away soon enough. It's absurd to have ever believed that a nation of 1.4 billion people with a growing middle class was always going to depend on us to provide their entertainment. I can't even type it without marveling at how preposterous the proposition is.
 
2017-10-01 11:57:20 AM  

Archie Goodwin: Am I missing anything by never having seen Avatar?

/Yeah, I'm THAT guy.


It was visiually and technically groundbreaking for its time.

Today? Prolly not.
 
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