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2017-09-30 08:12:09 AM  
Yeah I couldn't get through the first one. But I really do want to know what happens to the rough and rugged Marine, the thoughtful scientist, the heartless businessman, and the wise and beautiful princess's kind boyfriend. This franchise will be for illiterates who would read fantasy and science fiction if they could read. I guess it does serve a purpose.
 
2017-09-30 08:14:34 AM  
Are there that many direct-to-masking-tape Ferngully sequels to crib plots from?
 
2017-09-30 08:20:01 AM  
*Yawn*
 
2017-09-30 08:50:00 AM  
The problem is that they put all the 3D into the video and 1D into the characters.  I managed to watch some of the first one, and after about 5 minutes I wanted the entire universe wiped out.
 
2017-09-30 09:10:20 AM  
I recall very little about 1. What I do recall was that visually it was pretty neat, and also that I didn't really care about any of the characters in the story.
 
2017-09-30 09:13:11 AM  
I enjoyed the first one. The visuals and 3D were exceptionally good. The story has been told many times before and since. Can't see where they plan to go with a sequel.
 
2017-09-30 09:13:14 AM  
The effects helped gloss over the simple plot for me but I don't need more.
 
2017-09-30 09:15:04 AM  
Any chance this could do such damage to their finances they're forced to sell X-Men and FF to Disney?
 
2017-09-30 09:17:27 AM  
Any chance they shut down Fox News?
 
2017-09-30 09:17:42 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The problem is that they put all the 3D into the video and 1D into the characters.  I managed to watch some of the first one, and after about 5 minutes I wanted the entire universe wiped out.


I think that's the reason Avatar seems to have disappeared so much from public view after its theatrical run.  In a theatre, with the big screen and the state of the art sound system and your 3D glasses on, it's an amazing, absorbing experience.  Get home and watch it on video, on your broke-ass TV while you're distracted by other things, and you say, "Wait, this is 'Dances with Wolves' crossed with 'Ferngully'!"
 
2017-09-30 09:19:46 AM  
You're first
I'm last
You're thirst
I'm asked to justify
Killing our last heaven beast
Don't hunt the whale

"I can totally make a movie from that" - James Cameron
 
2017-09-30 09:21:37 AM  

Persnickety: You're first
I'm last
You're thirst
I'm asked to justify
Killing our last heaven beast
Don't hunt the whale

"I can totally make a movie from that" - James Cameron


Dig it, dig it.
 
2017-09-30 09:33:15 AM  
Not a chance.
 
2017-09-30 09:33:47 AM  
My favorite part of Avatar was the scene where I had no idea what was going to happen next.
 
2017-09-30 09:34:12 AM  
Sadly, Roger Dean lost his lawsuit.
 
2017-09-30 09:34:53 AM  
www.grayflannelsuit.net
 
2017-09-30 09:35:10 AM  

mark_bert: I enjoyed the first one. The visuals and 3D were exceptionally good. The story has been told many times before and since. Can't see where they plan to go with a sequel.


Same here. I liked Avatar, even though it was Dances With Giant Space Smurfs. But they didn't set up much for sequels, so I'm having a hard time with 1 sequel, let alone 4.
 
2017-09-30 09:35:35 AM  
You know, they could have just invested in the camera tech directly...
 
2017-09-30 09:39:24 AM  
I hope they explain what's going on with my favorite inscruitable lyric from "I've Seen All Good People":


Diddit diddit diddit diddit diddit diddit diddit didda

Diddit diddit diddit diddit diddit diddit diddit didda
Diddit diddit diddit diddit diddit diddit diddit didda
Diddit diddit diddit diddit diddit diddit diddit didda


It's like a riddle wrapped in a mystery wrapped in an enigma.
 
2017-09-30 09:43:38 AM  
sigouney weaver is one farking hot 67 year old woman.
 
2017-09-30 09:50:30 AM  
Meh, we spent twice that on a government based on a Steely Dan album.

img.fark.net
 
2017-09-30 09:56:02 AM  
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes + Sharknado = Tormato.  I'd watch it.
 
2017-09-30 09:58:24 AM  

jake_lex: Marcus Aurelius: The problem is that they put all the 3D into the video and 1D into the characters.  I managed to watch some of the first one, and after about 5 minutes I wanted the entire universe wiped out.

I think that's the reason Avatar seems to have disappeared so much from public view after its theatrical run.  In a theatre, with the big screen and the state of the art sound system and your 3D glasses on, it's an amazing, absorbing experience.  Get home and watch it on video, on your broke-ass TV while you're distracted by other things, and you say, "Wait, this is 'Dances with Wolves' crossed with 'Ferngully'!"


Yes. It was like that with Lord Of The Rings. Great in the theater, but on DVD it was all "live action composite window matted into CG land", like a Syd & Marty Krofft show.

"Behold!" said Gandalf, with a dramatic sweep of his arm, "The Valley of Vastness"...localized entirely on my 15" TV set....
 
2017-09-30 10:00:15 AM  
My friend raved about Avatar, but I've never heard her mention it after that. We talk about many movies, but she never brings it up. Why is that? I never saw it.
 
2017-09-30 10:13:47 AM  
They go through the water part of the planet and meet the Gungans.
 
2017-09-30 10:14:14 AM  

Schmerd1948: My friend raved about Avatar, but I've never heard her mention it after that. We talk about many movies, but she never brings it up. Why is that?


The plot re-enacted a period of American history that most people want to forget, and some are in complete denial over.
 
2017-09-30 10:25:30 AM  
Yes, but I think it's brilliant, in a sort of roundabout way.
 
2017-09-30 10:43:45 AM  
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Oblig
 
2017-09-30 10:59:53 AM  
I liked Avatar. The story wasn't terrible, it was just nothing we hadn't seen before. (Same with Titanic.) The spectacle of it all was worth the price of admission - as long as you saw it 3D.

However, while it became one of the biggest movies ever, it's also one we've largely forgotten. The movie didn't become iconic the way Titanic, Terminator, and Aliens became iconic. When was the last time you quoted Avatar? Did you ever quote Avatar?

Now, I will see the first sequel at least because I am curious to see how he follows it up. Granted, I also saw the Independence Day sequel for the same reason, so I might be setting myself up for disappointment. However, Cameron does know how to make a good movie, and he might actually be able to create a memorable franchise out of these 4 sequels. (Much like the way the Fast and Furious franchise has become a global phenomenon.) It's possible he might top himself and create something neat.

For instance, while the first movie borrowed from Dances With Wolves, what if he borrowed from Aliens and Terminator for the next ones? Pandora is the perfect environment for a tense, survival story. The elements of a good horror/thriller are right there. Future installments could take from other successful franchises. Because really, if that's what he's going to do with these films, he might as well borrow from the best.
 
2017-09-30 11:35:50 AM  

August11: Yeah I couldn't get through the first one. But I really do want to know what happens to the rough and rugged Marine, the thoughtful scientist, the heartless businessman, and the wise and beautiful princess's kind boyfriend. This franchise will be for illiterates who would read fantasy and science fiction if they could read. I guess it does serve a purpose.


Do you have to get back to watching Lion of Winter in 26 minutes?
 
2017-09-30 11:39:42 AM  
If it was the headline, I'd be excited.

But the story? The movie was meh. No interest in any sequels.
 
2017-09-30 11:46:53 AM  
What defines Avatar for me was the laziness of calling the sought after resource "unobtanium".  It's so cynically dumb and mailed in and insulting to the audience, just like the alleged plot.

They should've just gone for the gold on that one and called it "hardtogettium".

/stolen from a friend
 
2017-09-30 11:56:45 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The problem is that they put all the 3D into the video and 1D into the characters.  I managed to watch some of the first one, and after about 5 minutes I wanted the entire universe wiped out.


...and I can see I'm not needed here. Well stated.
 
2017-09-30 11:59:17 AM  
A sequel might have done reasonably well if it came out soon after the first, but the hype is gone and no one is excited for a sequel at this point, let alone 4 more.  I predict after the first sequel tanks, plans for the rest will be scrapped.
 
2017-09-30 12:00:09 PM  
 
2017-09-30 12:03:46 PM  

Ezimar: Schmerd1948: My friend raved about Avatar, but I've never heard her mention it after that. We talk about many movies, but she never brings it up. Why is that?

The plot re-enacted a period of American history that most people want to forget, and some are in complete denial over.


The 2016 presidential campaign?
 
2017-09-30 12:05:26 PM  

soporific: I liked Avatar. The story wasn't terrible, it was just nothing we hadn't seen before. (Same with Titanic.) The spectacle of it all was worth the price of admission - as long as you saw it 3D.

However, while it became one of the biggest movies ever, it's also one we've largely forgotten. The movie didn't become iconic the way Titanic, Terminator, and Aliens became iconic. When was the last time you quoted Avatar? Did you ever quote Avatar?

Now, I will see the first sequel at least because I am curious to see how he follows it up. Granted, I also saw the Independence Day sequel for the same reason, so I might be setting myself up for disappointment. However, Cameron does know how to make a good movie, and he might actually be able to create a memorable franchise out of these 4 sequels. (Much like the way the Fast and Furious franchise has become a global phenomenon.) It's possible he might top himself and create something neat.

For instance, while the first movie borrowed from Dances With Wolves, what if he borrowed from Aliens and Terminator for the next ones? Pandora is the perfect environment for a tense, survival story. The elements of a good horror/thriller are right there. Future installments could take from other successful franchises. Because really, if that's what he's going to do with these films, he might as well borrow from the best.


He should take it in the direction of the Godfather franchise
 
2017-09-30 12:17:55 PM  

gilgigamesh: What defines Avatar for me was the laziness of calling the sought after resource "unobtanium".  It's so cynically dumb and mailed in and insulting to the audience, just like the alleged plot.

They should've just gone for the gold on that one and called it "hardtogettium".

/stolen from a friend


You need to hang out with more engineers. It's actually an in-joke among material scientists, so I just assumed someone in that universe used the name in jest when the element was discovered, only to see the name stick in popular culture when the high-temperature semiconductor became used in everyday technology.

"Later, unobtainium became an engineering term for practical materials that really exist, but are difficult to get.[4] For example, during the development of the SR-71 Blackbird spy plane, Lockheed engineers at the "Skunk Works" under Clarence "Kelly" Johnson used unobtainium as a dysphemism for titanium.Titanium allowed a higher strength-to-weight ratio at the high temperatures the Blackbird would reach, but the Soviet Union controlled its supply and was trying to deprive the US armed forces of this resource."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium
 
2017-09-30 12:24:39 PM  
As a fan of watching big-budget trainwrecks unfold, I look forward to the Avatar sequels coming out.
 
2017-09-30 12:35:26 PM  

foo monkey: My favorite part of Avatar was the scene where I had no idea what was going to happen next.


I don't remember that scene.
 
2017-09-30 12:36:17 PM  
and if just one of them does half as well as the first film, it will have been worth it. What's the issue exactly?
 
2017-09-30 12:38:27 PM  

WhackingDay: I'll just leave this here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films


No shiat. If there were ever a dude in Hollywood to entrust with a billion dollars, Cameron is that dude.
 
2017-09-30 12:42:06 PM  

The Bestest: foo monkey: My favorite part of Avatar was the scene where I had no idea what was going to happen next.

I don't remember that scene.


https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/joke
 
2017-09-30 12:42:20 PM  
soporific:
However, while it became one of the biggest movies ever, it's also one we've largely forgotten. The movie didn't become iconic the way Titanic, Terminator, and Aliens became iconic. When was the last time you quoted Avatar? Did you ever quote Avatar?

Even better - pop quiz: without resorting to the Googles, can you name the main character and who played him?
 
2017-09-30 12:53:44 PM  

johnny_vegas: August11: Yeah I couldn't get through the first one. But I really do want to know what happens to the rough and rugged Marine, the thoughtful scientist, the heartless businessman, and the wise and beautiful princess's kind boyfriend. This franchise will be for illiterates who would read fantasy and science fiction if they could read. I guess it does serve a purpose.

Do you have to get back to watching Lion of Winter in 26 minutes?


I did not get that reference, but I bet it was hilarious.
 
2017-09-30 12:57:18 PM  

August11: johnny_vegas: August11: Yeah I couldn't get through the first one. But I really do want to know what happens to the rough and rugged Marine, the thoughtful scientist, the heartless businessman, and the wise and beautiful princess's kind boyfriend. This franchise will be for illiterates who would read fantasy and science fiction if they could read. I guess it does serve a purpose.

Do you have to get back to watching Lion of Winter in 26 minutes?

I did not get that reference, but I bet it was hilarious.


Shocking

/welcome to fark!
 
2017-09-30 01:05:49 PM  
It's better than wasting the money making films based on the covers of Psygnosis games.
 
2017-09-30 01:29:57 PM  
James Cameron's Avatar franchise is about to become one of the most expensive series of films ever made.

Umh, does one not need a 2nd movie. Ideally, not a franchise until the 3rd installment.
Last I heard that sequel is still a long ways off.
 
2017-09-30 01:30:27 PM  

puckrock2000: soporific:
However, while it became one of the biggest movies ever, it's also one we've largely forgotten. The movie didn't become iconic the way Titanic, Terminator, and Aliens became iconic. When was the last time you quoted Avatar? Did you ever quote Avatar?

Even better - pop quiz: without resorting to the Googles, can you name the main character and who played him?


Well, the reason for that is because the movie is too long. There's no replayability. You've seen it, it was good/bad/whatever, and we're done now.

I get that Titanic was also long, but it's a different type of movie and has at least one of the most iconic actors of our generation.

/*eyeroll*, yes, I mean DiCaprio
 
2017-09-30 01:42:53 PM  
They're not high on my hype list, but I'll go see any Avatar sequels.
 
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