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(Digital Spy)   Supreme Leader Snoke isn't the real villain of the last Jedi. It's--you guessed it--Jar Jar Binks. [Warning: Potential Spoilers]   ( digitalspy.com) divider line
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2017-09-30 11:06:33 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: Fano: UNC_Samurai: I'm not going to RTFA if it's another dumb rehash of the Darth Jar-Jar theory.

That, like all fan theories, is indeed dumb.

Yeah it is a dumb theory and so would thinking that Lucas would have ever intended it.  But it makes more sense than what was actually any "theory" shown onscreen. If you treat it as a parody of how Lucas plotted the prequels, it is brilliant.

 
2017-09-30 11:30:57 AM  
Sigh... Let me guess, we're back to "Kylo Ren is really Luke Skywalker!" type bullshiat, again. Everyone is so desperate to destroy the character's story arc in the original trilogy by making Luke the bad guy, because reasons.

Fine, knock yourselves out. It's stupid, and is only being done because "shocking twist! "

But I'm sure Red Letter Media will love it, since they hate anything familiar.
 
2017-09-30 12:37:24 PM  

invictus2: fusillade762: iron de havilland: In The Crying Game, one of the characters had a penis.

I forget which one.

Forest Whitaker.

well, he was cock-eyed the whole film


Outstanding!
 
2017-09-30 12:44:51 PM  
So.. this is the Snoke Black Series figure in the box:
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And then, somewhat hysterically, this is what he looks like under the 'Snoke and a Pancake' robe:

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Basically, it turns out that Snoke is a ballerina Golden Girl / Goldmember hybrid!
 
2017-09-30 12:57:22 PM  

Shagbert: So.. this is the Snoke Black Series figure in the box:
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And then, somewhat hysterically, this is what he looks like under the 'Snoke and a Pancake' robe:

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Basically, it turns out that Snoke is a ballerina Golden Girl / Goldmember hybrid!


Hahahahaha!
 
2017-09-30 12:59:54 PM  

iron de havilland: In The Crying Game, one of the characters had a penis.

I forget which one.


All of them.
 
2017-09-30 02:01:42 PM  

jayphat: Jar Jar is a farking street clown on Naboo. There, mystery solved. And yes, it's canon so farkING DEAL WITH IR.


Yep. He's a street clown desperately going through his slapstick schtick to try and get people to like him again, but they all avoid and despise him because they blame him for Palpatine's rise to power. 

Gotta love Chuck Wendig.
 
2017-09-30 02:06:03 PM  
FTA " In A New Hope, we got just a tantalising glimpse of the Emperor. "

and author instantly loses all credibility, going from potentially wild speculation to, hasn't got a fooking clue.
 
2017-09-30 02:20:23 PM  

PvtStash: FTA " In A New Hope, we got just a tantalising glimpse of the Emperor. "

and author instantly loses all credibility, going from potentially wild speculation to, hasn't got a fooking clue.


Maybe he meant that they briefly mentioned the Emperor in passing and he's just a shiatty writer.
 
2017-09-30 02:31:39 PM  
What would Luke's motivation even be for turning to the dark side? Luke saw the cost it had on his father why would he go down that road also?
 
2017-09-30 02:48:41 PM  

TheMarchHare: What would Luke's motivation even be for turning to the dark side? Luke saw the cost it had on his father why would he go down that road also?


It's the type of cheap, gimmicky twist that seems to have become common in movies lately.
 
amb
2017-09-30 03:02:49 PM  

bhcompy: If Luke is the bad guy it's in the name of balance in the force.  That could be a little righteous, but that's the Jedi way.  It also plays into the name of the film, since the rumor has always been that Luke was going to embrace the "gray jedi" middleground that brings its own balance.  That makes him a "bad guy", but not the evil guy. I believe that Luke will be a rebel to the end.  The guy is still pissed about missing out on Tosche Station, so he's only going to do what he wants from now on


Did he ever get those power converters?
 
2017-09-30 03:10:12 PM  

amb: Did he ever get those power converters?


No, that's why he got so little when he sold his speeder. Old, worn out power converters.
 
2017-09-30 03:20:36 PM  

Mugato: TheMarchHare: What would Luke's motivation even be for turning to the dark side? Luke saw the cost it had on his father why would he go down that road also?

It's the type of cheap, gimmicky twist that seems to have become common in movies lately.


It's why I'm hoping they get Reys backstory out of the way in the opening act.  You can feel a twist coming and it will only dissapoint.
 
2017-09-30 03:28:19 PM  

amb: bhcompy: If Luke is the bad guy it's in the name of balance in the force.  That could be a little righteous, but that's the Jedi way.  It also plays into the name of the film, since the rumor has always been that Luke was going to embrace the "gray jedi" middleground that brings its own balance.  That makes him a "bad guy", but not the evil guy. I believe that Luke will be a rebel to the end.  The guy is still pissed about missing out on Tosche Station, so he's only going to do what he wants from now on

Did he ever get those power converters?


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2017-09-30 03:59:53 PM  

Mugato: Hey a Star Wars thread, time for everyone to take time out of their busy schedule to shiat on it. Right on schedule. You know it's been 18 years since Jar Jar's had any more than five lines? Isn't there a statute of limitations on this shiat?

Anyway, having Luke being the bad guy would be a big mistake.


Luke is playing the bad guy because he knows that it is the only way he can save Kylo and Rey. This was set in motion by Han also sacrificing himself so that Kylo did not end up on thr Dark Side. Without Luke being on the Dark Side, there is nobody looking after Kylo and it sets up an unfortunate battle between the two. No matter who wins and kills the other, the Dark Side will win.

Luke has seen both sides of the force and the devastation that has occurred by the lack of balance and constant struggle. He above all understands what must be done similar to the moment in which Dart Vader killed the Emperor thus rebelling against the Dark Side. I am not sure what the final outcome will be, but hopefully we will see the Grey born from this since this balance is what is needed to achieve equilibrium and to break the cycle. It isn't a classic tale of good versus evil.
 
2017-09-30 04:28:26 PM  
"When I read 8, I told Rian, 'I fundamentally disagree with virtually everything you've decided about my character'," Hamill said. "But it might be a good sign! I was really wrong about [The Force Awakens]."

Of course he was wrong about SW7, He got paid a shiat load of money to do a day's worth of work and keep his mouth shut. I just hope that he does a 180 and Luke Skywalker turns into the Joker.

If Hamill doesn't look like this by the end of Episode 9, i'm going to be disappointed.

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2017-09-30 04:54:32 PM  

TheMarchHare: What would Luke's motivation even be for turning to the dark side? Luke saw the cost it had on his father why would he go down that road also?


It was a plot thread people latched on to from Empire and Jedi. The Emperor managed to goad Luke into briefly giving in to his anger, and Yoda had warned that taking the smallest steps on the path to the dark side would lead to it forever dominating his destiny. 

In the old EU, that led to Luke going full dark side to fully understand it so he could reject it completely.
 
2017-09-30 05:29:17 PM  

Some Guy In A Waistcoat: TheMarchHare: What would Luke's motivation even be for turning to the dark side? Luke saw the cost it had on his father why would he go down that road also?

It was a plot thread people latched on to from Empire and Jedi. The Emperor managed to goad Luke into briefly giving in to his anger, and Yoda had warned that taking the smallest steps on the path to the dark side would lead to it forever dominating his destiny. 

In the old EU, that led to Luke going full dark side to fully understand it so he could reject it completely.


I think that's what most are missing here. Luke did turn to the Dark Side in the old canon, but came back. Why would this "fan" theory be that far off base? 

Director takes a canon idea and uses it in the next film series to mirror the redemption story of the first series. 

I think people are not liking the amount of words used to describe how they are going about doing it. That article was pretty shiatty writing.
 
2017-09-30 05:30:27 PM  
One of the few things more annoying than Jar-Jar are Star Wars fans who won't stop talking about Jar-Jar.

/No, your fan-theory isn't "mind blowing", "thought provoking", or "cool", it's stupid.
//Though to be fair, a lot of the canon in Star Wars is stupid too.
 
2017-09-30 05:45:37 PM  

the_innkeeper: Some Guy In A Waistcoat: TheMarchHare: What would Luke's motivation even be for turning to the dark side? Luke saw the cost it had on his father why would he go down that road also?

It was a plot thread people latched on to from Empire and Jedi. The Emperor managed to goad Luke into briefly giving in to his anger, and Yoda had warned that taking the smallest steps on the path to the dark side would lead to it forever dominating his destiny. 

In the old EU, that led to Luke going full dark side to fully understand it so he could reject it completely.

I think that's what most are missing here. Luke did turn to the Dark Side in the old canon, but came back. Why would this "fan" theory be that far off base? 

Director takes a canon idea and uses it in the next film series to mirror the redemption story of the first series. 

I think people are not liking the amount of words used to describe how they are going about doing it. That article was pretty shiatty writing.


The twist is that he isn't turning to the Dark Side and will redeem himself, but rather to save Kylo and Rey and restore balance. While Luke may have turned to the Dark Side, I don't think he is being used by it as much as he is using it, which is essentially an impossible act to sustain and will end with his death.
 
2017-09-30 08:12:57 PM  

jayphat: Jar Jar is a farking street clown on Naboo. There, mystery solved. And yes, it's canon so farkING DEAL WITH IR.


Came for this. Satisfied.
 
amb
2017-09-30 09:53:19 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: the_innkeeper: Some Guy In A Waistcoat: TheMarchHare: What would Luke's motivation even be for turning to the dark side? Luke saw the cost it had on his father why would he go down that road also?

It was a plot thread people latched on to from Empire and Jedi. The Emperor managed to goad Luke into briefly giving in to his anger, and Yoda had warned that taking the smallest steps on the path to the dark side would lead to it forever dominating his destiny. 

In the old EU, that led to Luke going full dark side to fully understand it so he could reject it completely.

I think that's what most are missing here. Luke did turn to the Dark Side in the old canon, but came back. Why would this "fan" theory be that far off base? 

Director takes a canon idea and uses it in the next film series to mirror the redemption story of the first series. 

I think people are not liking the amount of words used to describe how they are going about doing it. That article was pretty shiatty writing.

The twist is that he isn't turning to the Dark Side and will redeem himself, but rather to save Kylo and Rey and restore balance. While Luke may have turned to the Dark Side, I don't think he is being used by it as much as he is using it, which is essentially an impossible act to sustain and will end with his death.


So Luke has to be at peace with his anger.

In the abandoned EU it was in a graphic novel iirc, that Luke turned to the dark side and came back to the light. After that is when Luke became a Jedi Master.
 
2017-09-30 09:54:18 PM  

Some Guy In A Waistcoat: It was a plot thread people latched on to from Empire and Jedi. The Emperor managed to goad Luke into briefly giving in to his anger, and Yoda had warned that taking the smallest steps on the path to the dark side would lead to it forever dominating his destiny. 

In the old EU, that led to Luke going full dark side to fully understand it so he could reject it completely.


The best part was, that was only half the reason he did it. The other half was so that he could get close enough to the cloned Emperor to repeat his father's act of redemption and kill Palpatine at a key moment.

Of course, then they went and cocked up the ending by having a newly introduced character with a ridiculous name even by SW standards jump in at the last moment with a Heroic Sacrifice™, but apart from that it was great.
 
2017-09-30 10:03:26 PM  

Flappyhead: Mugato: TheMarchHare: What would Luke's motivation even be for turning to the dark side? Luke saw the cost it had on his father why would he go down that road also?

It's the type of cheap, gimmicky twist that seems to have become common in movies lately.

It's why I'm hoping they get Reys backstory out of the way in the opening act.  You can feel a twist coming and it will only dissapoint.


Rebels isn't getting nearly enough love here. Rey is Ezra's daughter that had been at Luke's new Jedi school when young Kylo got all emo-y and smoked it. Luke mind tricked her and dumped her on Jakku to be safe. Ezra in the mean time has gone dark side-y to become Snoke, in his efforts to bring peace and unity to the galaxy. Wut!
 
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