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(NBC News)   Trump was once very upset that he wasn't allowed to bribe people overseas   ( nbcnews.com) divider line
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2017-09-29 01:52:07 PM  
So Trump's actively getting bribed, I take it? Law of projection and all.
 
2017-09-29 02:01:20 PM  

themindiswatching: So Trump's actively getting bribed, I take it? Law of projection and all.


He should just be glad that Russia has no such law.
 
2017-09-29 02:51:26 PM  
What's going to hang him is the money trail. Mark my words.
 
2017-09-29 03:11:32 PM  
The Trump worldview is pretty much Gilded Age Imperialism, isn't it?

China bribes foreigners to get business. We can bribe foreigners to get business.

Israelis spy on foreign companies to steal trade secrets.  We can spy on foreign companies to steal trade secrets.

Vietnam allows sweat shops to make export goods.  We can use sweat shops to make import goods.

North Korea threatens or kills foreigners to coerce their business.  We can threaten and kill foreigners to get them to sign a contract.

Russia invades another country to get access to their wealth.  We invade other countries to get their wealth.
 
2017-09-29 03:34:14 PM  
Depressing. When I was entering Foreign Corrupt Practices Act into Google, the second suggested search had trump at the end of it,
 
2017-09-29 03:49:28 PM  

gaslight: What's going to hang him is the money trail. Mark my words.


Nothing's going to "hang" Trump. He's gotten away with every shady thing he's ever done and ever will do in his life.
 
2017-09-29 05:24:14 PM  

gaslight: What's going to hang him is the money trail. Mark my words.


The trail enters the tax returns, but doesn't come out. It just disappears.
 
2017-09-29 05:24:40 PM  

damageddude: Depressing. When I was entering Foreign Corrupt Practices Act into Google, the second suggested search had trump at the end of it,


The law firm I work at had a training about the FCPA. The feds don't kid around with that one. If you do FCP, you get PMITA prison. I was properly scared by the training, and I don't even ever bribe foreign officials.
 
2017-09-29 05:26:08 PM  

Mugato: gaslight: What's going to hang him is the money trail. Mark my words.

Nothing's going to "hang" Trump. He's gotten away with every shady thing he's ever done and ever will do in his life.


Trump has Mueller on his case.  Not to mention the DA's office in NY hates him as well.

The Russian money trail will eventually lead back to Trump.
 
2017-09-29 05:27:10 PM  
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2017-09-29 05:27:59 PM  
To be fair, most international corporations absolutely despise the FCPA. You have to understand that to them, bribery is a business cost, like paying for electricity or real estate, and when they can't, all it does is deny them business that goes to competitors not covered by the FCPA. To a businessperson, it's absolutely senseless. Trump just happened to say what most people affected by the law felt in public.
 
2017-09-29 05:28:02 PM  
Once? I'm pretty sure he's still upset about it.
 
2017-09-29 05:30:21 PM  
So wouldn't the dickweed's kids be guilty of this when they went to China and received all those trademarks that had been collecting dust for several years?
I swear this guy is the worst President ever. If you voted for him, please recuse yourself from all further elections. And maybe humanity in general until you actually learn something or grow a soul.
 
2017-09-29 05:31:03 PM  

Mugato: gaslight: What's going to hang him is the money trail. Mark my words.

Nothing's going to "hang" Trump. He's gotten away with every shady thing he's ever done and ever will do in his life.


There's no justice.

There's just us.
 
2017-09-29 05:32:25 PM  
I'm pretty sure trump hates anything that restricts his actions in any way.
 
2017-09-29 05:33:00 PM  
Donald Trump once railed against a Watergate-era reform law that prohibits American companies from bribing foreign government officials.
"What are we - prosecuting people to keep China honest?" he said in 2012. "Now every other country goes into to these places and they do what they have to do. It's a horrible law and it should be changed. I mean, we are like the policemen for the world. It's ridiculous."


Every farking thing he says is like Poe's Law or Performative Cartoon Villain. Did y'all see that Daily Beast article where he was upset a man was bleeding to death on his beautiful marble floor, because of the floor?
 
2017-09-29 05:33:03 PM  

willfullyobscure: Trump just happened to say what most people affected by the law felt in public.


And most people affected by those anti-murder laws hate them!
 
2017-09-29 05:33:19 PM  
wejash: The Trump worldview is pretty much Gilded Age Imperialism, isn't it?

The attitude is

The lazy level of spoonfed ignorance is purely postmodern though.
 
2017-09-29 05:33:26 PM  

willfullyobscure: To be fair, most international corporations absolutely despise the FCPA. You have to understand that to them, bribery is a business cost, like paying for electricity or real estate, and when they can't, all it does is deny them business that goes to competitors not covered by the FCPA. To a businessperson, it's absolutely senseless. Trump just happened to say what most people affected by the law felt in public.


That's nice. 

The "rule of law" is why we have a stable business environment. It is actually good for us that we know that someone can't just bribe a different official and get a better outcome for a competing business.

Fark Trump and his corrupt family. FCPA will end up taking his daughter down as well.
 
2017-09-29 05:34:07 PM  

endosymbiont: damageddude: Depressing. When I was entering Foreign Corrupt Practices Act into Google, the second suggested search had trump at the end of it,

The law firm I work at had a training about the FCPA. The feds don't kid around with that one. If you do FCP, you get PMITA prison. I was properly scared by the training, and I don't even ever bribe foreign officials.


Maybe in the old timeline. Things have changed.
 
2017-09-29 05:34:48 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Mugato: gaslight: What's going to hang him is the money trail. Mark my words.

Nothing's going to "hang" Trump. He's gotten away with every shady thing he's ever done and ever will do in his life.

Trump has Mueller on his case.  Not to mention the DA's office in NY hates him as well.

The Russian money trail will eventually lead back to Trump.


"Every accusation is a confession"
 
2017-09-29 05:38:38 PM  

willfullyobscure: To be fair, most international corporations absolutely despise the FCPA. You have to understand that to them, bribery is a business cost, like paying for electricity or real estate, and when they can't, all it does is deny them business that goes to competitors not covered by the FCPA. To a businessperson, it's absolutely senseless. Trump just happened to say what most people affected by the law felt in public.


Nonesense. The FCPA has been on the books for almost 40 years, and yet somehow American multinational corporations have managed to do just fine. And the law is directed more towards the political applications of bribery then to greasing entry into new markets.
 
2017-09-29 05:39:09 PM  

the_innkeeper: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Mugato: gaslight: What's going to hang him is the money trail. Mark my words.

Nothing's going to "hang" Trump. He's gotten away with every shady thing he's ever done and ever will do in his life.

Trump has Mueller on his case.  Not to mention the DA's office in NY hates him as well.

The Russian money trail will eventually lead back to Trump.

"Every accusation is a confession"


So PizzaGate was real? I knew it!  That Alex Jones is never wrong!
 
2017-09-29 05:41:53 PM  
I actually have some issues with this law.  In some countries, you simply aren't going to get a contract unless you grease a few palms here and there.  So, in effect, this law bans US companies from doing business in such countries, and allows China, Russia, or whoever to take those contracts instead, lowering US companies' profits and putting US employees out of work.
 
2017-09-29 05:44:10 PM  

capn' fun: willfullyobscure: To be fair, most international corporations absolutely despise the FCPA. You have to understand that to them, bribery is a business cost, like paying for electricity or real estate, and when they can't, all it does is deny them business that goes to competitors not covered by the FCPA. To a businessperson, it's absolutely senseless. Trump just happened to say what most people affected by the law felt in public.

Nonesense. The FCPA has been on the books for almost 40 years, and yet somehow American multinational corporations have managed to do just fine. And the law is directed more towards the political applications of bribery then to greasing entry into new markets.


Walmart managed to do plenty of bribing down in Mexico and no repercussions other than a fine.
 
2017-09-29 05:44:24 PM  

Geotpf: I actually have some issues with this law.  In some countries, you simply aren't going to get a contract unless you grease a few palms here and there.  So, in effect, this law bans US companies from doing business in such countries, and allows China, Russia, or whoever to take those contracts instead, lowering US companies' profits and putting US employees out of work.


Yeah, you're right, corporate profits should always over rule ethics and good governance .
 
2017-09-29 05:48:43 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Trump has Mueller on his case.  Not to mention the DA's office in NY hates him as well.

The Russian money trail will eventually lead back to Trump.


I'd my middle nut he'll come out of this smelling like a rose (and Cheetos) just like with everything else.
 
2017-09-29 05:50:42 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: capn' fun: willfullyobscure: To be fair, most international corporations absolutely despise the FCPA. You have to understand that to them, bribery is a business cost, like paying for electricity or real estate, and when they can't, all it does is deny them business that goes to competitors not covered by the FCPA. To a businessperson, it's absolutely senseless. Trump just happened to say what most people affected by the law felt in public.

Nonesense. The FCPA has been on the books for almost 40 years, and yet somehow American multinational corporations have managed to do just fine. And the law is directed more towards the political applications of bribery then to greasing entry into new markets.

Walmart managed to do plenty of bribing down in Mexico and no repercussions other than a fine.


Bribery goes on all the time; it just take more creativity and middle men to do it legally.

As for the FCPA, it wasn't about ending the evils of slipping a few Yankee Benjamins into the same envelope as a zoning request, or giving the mayor's nephew an "associate manager" job when the new factory opens. The genesis of the FCPA was political slush funds (nowadays we call them PACs) filled with foreign cash, and vice versa (foreign poltical slush funds filled with American cash).
 
2017-09-29 05:51:45 PM  

raatz01: very farking thing he says is like Poe's Law or Performative Cartoon Villain. Did y'all see that Daily Beast article where he was upset a man was bleeding to death on his beautiful marble floor, because of the floor?


Can you imagine if that story had come out during the campaign?  It would have ruined him!

lol... and by lol, I mean that I'm never not sad that anyone voted for this a**hole.
 
2017-09-29 05:53:50 PM  

Mr_Smartypants: willfullyobscure: Trump just happened to say what most people affected by the law felt in public.

And most people affected by those anti-murder laws hate them!


No. Engaging in murder and other kinds of physical agression is a liability and a risk for multinationals, because capital crimes almost universally bring the perpetrator under local jurisdiction, whereas bribery is a civil offense and doesn't put the briber in immediate legal danger, only the in-country bribee.

There are exceptions, but by and large the world has moved on from the days of United Fruit
 
2017-09-29 06:03:26 PM  

willfullyobscure: Mr_Smartypants: willfullyobscure: Trump just happened to say what most people affected by the law felt in public.

And most people affected by those anti-murder laws hate them!

No. Engaging in murder and other kinds of physical agression is a liability and a risk for multinationals, ...


Time to play spot the difference!
 
2017-09-29 06:04:49 PM  

the_innkeeper: "Every accusation is a confession"


Wow, that's terrible.
 
2017-09-29 06:10:02 PM  

gaslight: What's going to hang him is the money trail. Mark my words.


That's probably why Mueller's team has a lot of forensic accountants and attorneys specializing in tax evasion.
 
2017-09-29 06:10:28 PM  

Mugato: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Trump has Mueller on his case.  Not to mention the DA's office in NY hates him as well.

The Russian money trail will eventually lead back to Trump.

I'd my middle nut he'll come out of this smelling like a rose (and Cheetos) just like with everything else.


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I've heard you have a few spares, so that's hardly a fair bet...
 
2017-09-29 06:22:47 PM  

wejash: The Trump worldview is pretty much Gilded Age Imperialism, isn't it?

China bribes foreigners to get business. We can bribe foreigners to get business.

Israelis spy on foreign companies to steal trade secrets.  We can spy on foreign companies to steal trade secrets.

Vietnam allows sweat shops to make export goods.  We can use sweat shops to make import goods.

North Korea threatens or kills foreigners to coerce their business.  We can threaten and kill foreigners to get them to sign a contract.

Russia invades another country to get access to their wealth.  We invade other countries to get their wealth.


Don't forget "Russia abuses their journalists and murders dissidents".
 
2017-09-29 06:31:19 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Once? I'm pretty sure he's still upset about it.


Came in to say this.  I'm sure he's upset about it on a daily basis.
 
2017-09-29 06:32:41 PM  
It didn't stop him though, did it?
 
2017-09-29 06:33:38 PM  

Silverstaff: gaslight: What's going to hang him is the money trail. Mark my words.

That's probably why Mueller's team has a lot of forensic accountants and attorneys specializing in tax evasion.


Team?  He's got a whole league.
 
2017-09-29 06:42:53 PM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: It didn't stop him though, did it?


That is what shell corporations are for.
 
2017-09-29 07:31:53 PM  

themindiswatching: So Trump's actively getting bribed, I take it? Law of projection and all.


He actively bribes people, see: Pam Bondi, the AG of Texas, and probably hundreds of others that Mueller/Schneiderman are investigating from his real estate days.
 
2017-09-29 07:35:30 PM  

Mugato: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Trump has Mueller on his case.  Not to mention the DA's office in NY hates him as well.

The Russian money trail will eventually lead back to Trump.

I'd my middle nut he'll come out of this smelling like a rose (and Cheetos) just like with everything else.


I had a buddy in high school that had three balls. His name was Rob. We called him Testosterob.
/CSB
 
2017-09-29 08:27:15 PM  

sillydragon: Mugato: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Trump has Mueller on his case.  Not to mention the DA's office in NY hates him as well.

The Russian money trail will eventually lead back to Trump.

I'd my middle nut he'll come out of this smelling like a rose (and Cheetos) just like with everything else.

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I've heard you have a few spares, so that's hardly a fair bet...


i don't think it matters. listen, if you had ten nuts how certain would you have to be to wager one?  it's not a finger or toe or kidney.
 
2017-09-29 09:14:51 PM  
Then Bush and Clinton came along and turned it into an art form.
 
2017-09-30 12:56:11 AM  

Duke of Madness Motors: I'm pretty sure trump hates anything that restricts his actions in any way.


Especially those tennis shorts.
 
2017-09-30 09:11:14 PM  
You mean it is actually illegal to pay bribes to foreign bureaucrats, politicians and business people? I thought that American companies could pay the bribes without prejudice but could only deduct them as business expenses if they declared them on their taxes.

You know, like hiring whores and paying for them out of the "entertaiment of business clients" budget for the "Hospitality" Suite.

Gee, it would be a shame if the perks of doing business were to go the way of the 3-martini lunch and blowing cigar smoke into the face of asthmatic children and others who are vulnerable and poor.
 
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