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(Talk Radio (UK))   If you're thinking of importing a child sex doll from Hong Kong, a) you should get out more and b) you could end up in jail   ( talkradio.co.uk) divider line
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2017-09-29 11:38:35 AM  
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2017-09-29 12:47:48 PM  
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2017-09-29 01:20:02 PM  
What if you are a mid.. uh, little person.
They don't make them in your size.

Still. Ew.

Rather get caught with an inflatable sheep.
 
2017-09-29 01:42:08 PM  
Stupid. Having sex with plastic dolls is illegal now?
What if the doll looks 17/18?
Do the dolls need ID to show they are 18 or over?
It's just a piece of plastic.
 
2017-09-29 02:06:25 PM  
I'm not sure I'd want a doll that's been sitting around for 18 years, though.
 
2017-09-29 02:33:05 PM  
A WHAT?!!

0_o
 
2017-09-29 03:10:29 PM  
I saw these on the sidebar of that story about the gorilla arm that washed ashore in Ireland. Which surprised me because a friend of mine had been talking about how these existed and I didn't believe her.
 
2017-09-29 03:11:39 PM  
Essex Police officers arrested Glerum at his home in Bridge Street, Great Bardfield, and items including computer equipment were seized. A laptop was found to contain 21 images or films of child abuse of Category A (the most serious); four of Category B; five of Category C; and eight prohibited images.

I'm pretty sure "getting out more" is exactly what we DON'T want this perv doing, Subby.
 
2017-09-29 03:12:24 PM  

Walker: Stupid. Having sex with plastic dolls is illegal now?
What if the doll looks 17/18?
Do the dolls need ID to show they are 18 or over?
It's just a piece of plastic.


You seem to have put some thought into this.
 
2017-09-29 03:12:41 PM  
Couldn't the manufacturers just ship the item in multiple boxes separately and be assembled 'at home' like IKEA furniture?
 
2017-09-29 03:13:54 PM  

Nurglitch: I saw these on the sidebar of that story about the gorilla arm that washed ashore in Ireland. Which surprised me because a friend of mine had been talking about how these existed and I didn't believe her.


Well how did you think they pick bananas?
 
2017-09-29 03:14:32 PM  
So they would prefer he have sex with real children then?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2017-09-29 03:14:36 PM  
If you import a child sex doll without a disk full of child porn, do you still go to prison?
 
2017-09-29 03:14:36 PM  
The whole story is disturbing overall. Yes, definitely creepy the dude had child porn and wanted to spank it with a pedo doll.

However, this is basically an inert inanimate object, not an actual human being being victimized. I have an issue with the slippery (heh) slope of criminalizing that, since what if it leads to actual legitimate sex toys being banned from outrage?
 
2017-09-29 03:15:00 PM  
Yeah don't get them from China, you want a quality built European model.

Seriously though, as creepy as this is, that mass of plastic and rubber is not a kid.
 
2017-09-29 03:15:35 PM  
I don't support/condone/etc. violence against children in any way and find it vile, but I'd much rather have a pedophile using a child sex doll than actually going out and molesting children.
 
2017-09-29 03:16:32 PM  
Well England's legal system is bit different than US. Not sure how this would play out in a US court these days.
 
2017-09-29 03:17:22 PM  

Mouser: Essex Police officers arrested Glerum at his home in Bridge Street, Great Bardfield, and items including computer equipment were seized. A laptop was found to contain 21 images or films of child abuse of Category A (the most serious); four of Category B; five of Category C; and eight prohibited images.

I'm pretty sure "getting out more" is exactly what we DON'T want this perv doing, Subby.


Take a walk in the par-
Go to the zo-
Go see a movi-

Yeah, fark it...sit at home and fap, you sick bastards.
 
2017-09-29 03:18:37 PM  

vudukungfu: What if you are a mid.. uh, little person.
They don't make them in your size.

Still. Ew.

Rather get caught with an inflatable sheep.


Inflatable? Pfft, the future is robotics. It's very difficult to make a realistic human sex doll because we are naturally tuned to pick up subtle differences in human appearance and behavior. It's the cause of the uncanny valley. No such limitations exist for  animatronic animal sex companions . Start there where it's easier.

You need to learn to walk before you can run.
 
2017-09-29 03:18:40 PM  
Article notes that he also had kiddy porn. Also didn't go to jail.

The sex doll was the catalyst for investigation, not because having the doll was in itself illegal, so some of you basement dwelling Farkers should relax.
 
2017-09-29 03:20:07 PM  
This place has everything.
 
2017-09-29 03:20:21 PM  
I guess they have to be consistent.

Basic problem is that we don't know whether having child sex doll makes a guy more or less likely to act out his fantasies on a real human child.
 
2017-09-29 03:20:44 PM  
"The doll was anatomically correct."

I was wondering how they determined the "mannequin" claim was false. Now I know.
 
2017-09-29 03:21:29 PM  

dbialac: I don't support/condone/etc. violence against children in any way and find it vile, but I'd much rather have a pedophile using a child sex doll than actually going out and molesting children.


I've not bothered to confirm it, but aren't therapists compelled to go to the authorities if a guy went in and said he had such thoughts? As a danger to society? What options do these sick bastards have to fix the problem?
 
2017-09-29 03:22:30 PM  

Walker: Stupid. Having sex with plastic dolls is illegal now?
What if the doll looks 17/18?
Do the dolls need ID to show they are 18 or over?
It's just a piece of plastic.


I'm not sure the doll was the problem.   I could have probably taken custody of it without issue.   I think the child pron on the laptop and such may have been the issue.
 
2017-09-29 03:22:35 PM  

guestguy: Mouser: Essex Police officers arrested Glerum at his home in Bridge Street, Great Bardfield, and items including computer equipment were seized. A laptop was found to contain 21 images or films of child abuse of Category A (the most serious); four of Category B; five of Category C; and eight prohibited images.

I'm pretty sure "getting out more" is exactly what we DON'T want this perv doing, Subby.

Take a walk in the par-
Go to the zo-
Go see a movi-

Yeah, fark it...sit at home and fap, you sick bastards.


Yeah reading the farking article revealed a few things the first cadre of commenters missed.
He wasn't charged for importing the doll, however the doll gave police enough reason to execute a search warrant on his home.  Upon searching his laptop they found actual child porn (as in a human being was involved in the creation of it) which he was charged for.

So the moral of the story is, if you buy a doll that looks like a child that you want to have sex with, its likely the local PD will think that you like having sex with children.

If the local PD thinks you are into sex with kids, they will search you and your home for evidence of it, and because you are a perv you have it, they will find it, and then you will go to prison.
 
2017-09-29 03:22:36 PM  
Let him fark his doll all he wants, who gives a fark?  And if this keeps him from farking an actual human child, all the better.
 
2017-09-29 03:22:48 PM  

GungFu: Article notes that he also had kiddy porn. Also didn't go to jail.

The sex doll was the catalyst for investigation, not because having the doll was in itself illegal, so some of you basement dwelling Farkers should relax.


The government monitoring your online purchases and mail looking for justification to raid your home is completely okay, citizen. You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide.
 
2017-09-29 03:27:38 PM  

ZAZ: If you import a child sex doll without a disk full of child porn, do you still go to prison?


Yes. UK pedo laws are written like US drug laws -- anything we can vaguely correlate with illegal activity is also illegal, even if there are no victims.

I'm willing to believe that there's a correlation between harmful pesdos and people who import child-sized sex dolls. But couldn't we say, license child-sized sex doll to people willing to be subject to extra scrutiny about their real-person sexual activities? Isn't the goal to make real people safer?
 
2017-09-29 03:29:27 PM  

Wonktnod: GungFu: Article notes that he also had kiddy porn. Also didn't go to jail.

The sex doll was the catalyst for investigation, not because having the doll was in itself illegal, so some of you basement dwelling Farkers should relax.

The government monitoring your online purchases and mail looking for justification to raid your home is completely okay, citizen. You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide.


Were they monitoring citizens' online purchases, or were they monitoring imported goods?  The former is an invasion of privacy, the latter is standard practice.

Also, from reading TFA, the doll was essentially probable cause and not the reason the guy was arrested.
 
2017-09-29 03:31:17 PM  
As a father of two, this horrifies and repulses me.

But I'd rather he, and people like him, resort to dolls than prey upon real children.

We know "conversion therapy" does not work, despite what Betsy DeVos and other fundies claim.
So why would believe it works on pedos?
It's all about Consenting Adults.  Gays can find other consenting adult gays and establish a healthy relationship.  Pedos, by definition, do not have that option.
They do not choose to be wired for pedo any more than gays choose to be wired for gay.
"Have you tried NOT being pedo?"  I'm guessing maybe many of them have.

So fine, pedo.  Here's your sex doll.  Now stay away from real children or we'll cut your balls off with a rusty lawnmower blade.
 
2017-09-29 03:31:38 PM  

Splinthar: So the moral of the story is, if you buy a doll that looks like a child that you want to have sex with, its likely the local PD will think that you like having sex with children.

If the local PD thinks you are into sex with kids, they will search you and your home for evidence of it, and because you are a perv you have it, they will find it, and then you will go to prison.


So, if you order the Anarchist's cookbook, they should be able to search your home or anyplace else you might be making bombs. And of course go through your financials, you could be renting a workspace.

How far does that go? You like to play Grand Theft Auto. Or Call of Duty.

We can see the kind of stuff you're in to. Better search everything you have, and put you under surveillance. Phone and internet taps.

Think of the children!
 
2017-09-29 03:32:08 PM  

Walker: Stupid. Having sex with plastic dolls is illegal now?
What if the doll looks 17/18?
Do the dolls need ID to show they are 18 or over?
It's just a piece of plastic.


That's why it doesn't have bad dreams.
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2017-09-29 03:37:05 PM  

mcnguyen: Let him fark his doll all he wants, who gives a fark?  And if this keeps him from farking an actual human child, all the better.


Came here to say this, and: Do we really want someone who orders a child sex doll to get out more?
 
2017-09-29 03:38:05 PM  

houstondragon: The whole story is disturbing overall. Yes, definitely creepy the dude had child porn and wanted to spank it with a pedo doll.

However, this is basically an inert inanimate object, not an actual human being being victimized. I have an issue with the slippery (heh) slope of criminalizing that, since what if it leads to actual legitimate sex toys being banned from outrage?


If you actually read the article a little closer, you will find that having the kiddie sex doll was NOT part of the included offenses.  He was actually charged and convicted of having kiddie porn on his computer.  The sex doll was basically just a "tip off" to authorities that he may be up to no good.
 
2017-09-29 03:39:40 PM  
This sounds like a person who you specifically don't want to "get out more".
 
2017-09-29 03:42:45 PM  

Wyalt Derp: Nurglitch: I saw these on the sidebar of that story about the gorilla arm that washed ashore in Ireland. Which surprised me because a friend of mine had been talking about how these existed and I didn't believe her.

Well how did you think they pick bananas?


Pre-peeled and individually shrink wrapped from whole foods obviously.
 
2017-09-29 03:43:03 PM  
Jesus, he couldn't afford one with hair?
 
2017-09-29 03:44:03 PM  

Pats_Cloth_Coat: Splinthar: So the moral of the story is, if you buy a doll that looks like a child that you want to have sex with, its likely the local PD will think that you like having sex with children.

If the local PD thinks you are into sex with kids, they will search you and your home for evidence of it, and because you are a perv you have it, they will find it, and then you will go to prison.

So, if you order the Anarchist's cookbook, they should be able to search your home or anyplace else you might be making bombs. And of course go through your financials, you could be renting a workspace.

How far does that go? You like to play Grand Theft Auto. Or Call of Duty.

We can see the kind of stuff you're in to. Better search everything you have, and put you under surveillance. Phone and internet taps.

Think of the children!


Well since this happened in Britain and they don't have an equivalent of the Fourth Amendment it don't matter.
Also probable cause warrants have been a thing for decades, there was a great Longread about this recently:
http://www.npr.org/2013/11/18/245913200/hundreds-arrested-in-massive-​c​hild-pornography-ring

Activity that is adjacent to criminal acts has long been enough to get a warrant for further investigation.  Obviously in this case the purchase of a doll designed to both look like a child and be a sextoy was the probable cause which unearthed the illegal behavior.

It all comes down to proper warrant acquisition and the prosecuting of those warrants.  And yes I am very worried about the US move to a much more free-form warrant system as it pertains to digital intrusions of law enforcement.

That said, you seem to be drawing a false connection because the arguments about violent videogames and insurrectionist "banned books" has mostly been put to bed by societal studies that showed those affiliations aren't indicative of illegal behavior.
However there have been multiple studies about pedophiles regarding their different types, and those who purchase surrogates tended to be in the group that escalated their behavior.
 
2017-09-29 03:45:17 PM  

Teufelaffe: Also, from reading TFA, the doll was essentially probable cause and not the reason the guy was arrested.


Should we start performing raids looking for the devil weed on anyone who receives a reggae album in the mail?

The doll alone should not have been enough for probable cause.
 
2017-09-29 03:47:05 PM  

Splinthar: escalated


And I would say that going from kiddie porn to a lifelike kiddie doll is evidence of escelation, and it most likely wouldn't stop there.
 
2017-09-29 03:48:43 PM  

Splinthar: He wasn't charged for importing the doll, however the doll gave police enough reason to execute a search warrant on his home.


Why?  That's like saying that the cops have a right to search your home for pot if they catch you importing a bong.  Actually, it goes farther, because the bong at least supports an inference that you might use it to smoke pot.  The creepy sex doll does not support a comparable inference that you will use it to abuse a child.
 
2017-09-29 03:48:52 PM  
I'd rather people fark child sex dolls than actual children.
 
2017-09-29 03:50:08 PM  
The picture in TFA is creep AF. Not to mention that getting turned on by children is just all sorts of crazy, but that doll is just......I dunno....It looks haunted or something.
 
2017-09-29 03:51:34 PM  
I think it's ridiculous that it's illegal. Also, anybody that buys one of these is probably a sick fark. The result is that I'm pretty indifferent about it.
 
2017-09-29 03:51:39 PM  

cup of tea: Splinthar: escalated

And I would say that going from kiddie porn to a lifelike kiddie doll is evidence of escelation, and it most likely wouldn't stop there.


This is the same flawed logic used to argue porn causes rape or that marijuana is a gateway drug. This is less likely escalation and more likely diversion from the path.
 
2017-09-29 03:52:17 PM  
GAHHH!
"Realistic Newborn Baby Dolls Made To Love"
https://www.jctoys.com/newborn-baby-dolls-s/1829.htm
 
2017-09-29 03:53:35 PM  

OneFretAway: Splinthar: He wasn't charged for importing the doll, however the doll gave police enough reason to execute a search warrant on his home.

Why?  That's like saying that the cops have a right to search your home for pot if they catch you importing a bong.  Actually, it goes farther, because the bong at least supports an inference that you might use it to smoke pot.  The creepy sex doll does not support a comparable inference that you will use it to abuse a child.


Read what I sent to the other guy whining about probable cause, they got a warrant if you have a problem with that then take it up with the trial judge and the evidence used to get a warrant.

TL;DR: They followed legal procedure that would have worked in the US and UK so there's not much to say other than in debating warrant validity minutia.
 
2017-09-29 03:54:23 PM  

cup of tea: GAHHH!
"Realistic Newborn Baby Dolls Made To Love"
https://www.jctoys.com/newborn-baby-dolls-s/1829.htm


That's a children's toy company.  Those are directed at little girls to play mommy with.  Stop freaking out.
 
2017-09-29 03:56:27 PM  
A friend of mine ordered a plastic doll from China, expecting to get something somewhat adult size, but it was the size of a small child instead.  Could not send it back, was too creeped out to use it, and says they waited until the middle of the night, sealed the box up with duct tape, and tossed it in a dumpster several blocks from their home, praying that no cameras caught them because their red state police would not be too understanding.
 
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