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(Tech Crunch)   FCC: "You need to activate the FM radio chips in your phones when there's a national emergency." Apple: "Um...you do know we don't have those in our phones, right?" FCC: *crickets*   ( techcrunch.com) divider line
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2017-09-29 01:44:58 PM  

Walker: How they gonna charge their damn phones when 100% of the island has no power?


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5-10 charges depending on cell battery size
 
2017-09-29 01:56:31 PM  

thehobbes: mongbiohazard: I'm typing this on an S7 Edge right now and........ it has an FM radio? I had no idea. Which is the app for it? Doubt I'll ever use it, since commercial radio sucks and my MP3's don't have commercial interruptions, but now I'm curious

IIRC the antennas they buy have FM frequencies as a default, it wasn't worth removing them. However cell carriers didn't want them to be active because then people wouldn't always stream and burn through their data, so the cell companies just rendered them inactive through software. You can download an app that uses the FM frequencies though.


Not all are disabled with software.  My phone is disabled with a physical solder bridging the antenna with the phone's ground.  A lot of Snapdragon-based phones are done that way.
 
2017-09-29 02:47:45 PM  
I have an i6 and am quite happy with it.

Yes, please activate my FM thingy.
 
2017-09-29 03:11:05 PM  

dittybopper: Why *WOULDN'T* they have something like that?

Something like FM radio is a perfect way to transmit information about an emergency.  It doesn't rely on infrastructure as much as the cell network (which would probably go down in a national or widespread regional emergency).  All you really need is a generator at the transmission site to keep an FM transmitter on the air.

Plus, it saves bandwidth.  An unlimited number of people can listen to the 100 kHz signal of a radio station without interfering or slowing down anything.  If you've got everyone trying to stream audio at the same time over the cell system, it'll grind to a halt.


U poor Lad. Apple always knows best!
 
2017-09-29 03:11:55 PM  

Unobtanium: Go$h why wouldn't the carrier$ want FM receiver$ in the phone$ u$ed on their network$?

/FM is the one thing I miss from using my HTC Thunderbolt


This thread is over. Good work.
 
2017-09-29 03:23:16 PM  
If only it were possible to buy a well designed, inexpensive pocket radio.
 
2017-09-29 03:27:07 PM  

BullBearMS: If only it were possible to buy a well designed, inexpensive pocket radio.


Perhaps it could be something a man could walk around with.
 
2017-09-29 03:31:41 PM  

hashtag.acronym: BullBearMS: If only it were possible to buy a well designed, inexpensive pocket radio.

Perhaps it could be something a man could walk around with.


It's my understanding that we now have the technology to make them quite small.

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With something like that, one could be taken straight to funkytown.
 
2017-09-29 03:45:50 PM  
Got this on sale for 20 bucks.
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2 AAs and you are all set.
 
2017-09-29 03:49:32 PM  

Walker: How they gonna charge their damn phones when 100% of the island has no power?


I got one of those emergency radio/flashlight thingies for Xmas a few years ago. It has a hand-crank generator for power and will, supposedly, also charge a phone via USB. Never used it. Hope I never have to. But if I do, that's my emergency communications "plan."
 
2017-09-29 03:58:58 PM  

real_headhoncho: Got this on sale for 20 bucks.
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2 AAs and you are all set.


I think I grabbed one of these on sale for $13
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Charged via solar, hand crank, or USB. LED light, AM/FM/NOAA radio, and a USB port for charging portable devices.

There is no good reason to not have a simple weather radio for emergencies.
 
2017-09-29 04:19:26 PM  

MightyPez: real_headhoncho: Got this on sale for 20 bucks.
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2 AAs and you are all set.

I think I grabbed one of these on sale for $13
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Charged via solar, hand crank, or USB. LED light, AM/FM/NOAA radio, and a USB port for charging portable devices.

There is no good reason to not have a simple weather radio for emergencies.


Those are great when you don't have a source of power like camping or in a disaster.  I also have one of the Freeplay Rangers
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Had it for over 10 years.  Getting beat up, but does what it is supposed to.
 
2017-09-29 04:44:05 PM  

real_headhoncho: Got this on sale for 20 bucks.
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2 AAs and you are all set.


THAT one.  Best low-cost AM/FM you can buy.  They go on sale from time to time for ~$10. Most of the portables have crap AM reception.  Not this one.
 
2017-09-29 06:41:57 PM  
In other news, Apple to begin selling $399 FM chip accessory. But you will need to purchase an adapter for $39.99 and a dongle for $24.99. Also the FM chip accessory doesn't come with battery or power cord. That has to be purchased separately.
 
2017-09-29 07:43:09 PM  

dittybopper: Why *WOULDN'T* they have something like that?

Something like FM radio is a perfect way to transmit information about an emergency.  It doesn't rely on infrastructure as much as the cell network (which would probably go down in a national or widespread regional emergency).  All you really need is a generator at the transmission site to keep an FM transmitter on the air.


One reason why not is that free radio might lessen demand for paid music from Apple.
 
2017-09-29 09:25:43 PM  

MythDragon: In other news, Apple to begin selling $399 FM chip accessory. But you will need to purchase an adapter for $39.99 and a dongle for $24.99. Also the FM chip accessory doesn't come with battery or power cord. That has to be purchased separately.


And it only plays the U2 channel.
 
2017-09-29 09:43:13 PM  

jjorsett: dittybopper: Why *WOULDN'T* they have something like that?

Something like FM radio is a perfect way to transmit information about an emergency.  It doesn't rely on infrastructure as much as the cell network (which would probably go down in a national or widespread regional emergency).  All you really need is a generator at the transmission site to keep an FM transmitter on the air.

One reason why not is that free radio might lessen demand for paid music from Apple.


Yeah, that's why they included FM radios in the iPod nano line for 8 years. You know, the ones that didn't have access to Spotify or any major competition to Apple's music offerings.

I don't work for Apple, and I don't read their minds. But I can only assume that if adding an FM radio would make people more willing to buy an iPhone, they'd do it.

Or do you honestly think that they'd jeopardize the $25 billion they made last quarter on iPhones to boost the $900 million they made on their subscription service?
 
2017-09-29 11:50:01 PM  
I have one of those emergency crank radios that has AM, FM and two shortwave bands. I remember when I was a kid and one of my friends had a neighbour who had a shortwave radio and he showed us how it worked and I thought it was absolutely amazing being able to tune in all this music I've never heard of from all over the world and listen to it.

When I got my emergency radio I tried listening to the shortwave radio stations and was so disappointed to discover it was nothing but right wing Christian conspiracy nuts talking about how Muslims were invented by Jews to create an army to destroy Christians. It almost made me want to start my own shortwave radio station that plays weird music.

Or a numbers station. Those things are freaky.
 
2017-09-30 02:15:34 AM  

Merltech: BizarreMan: Merltech: 1. Most phones I know of can't receive FM unless you use headphones as an antenna. So they are useless anyway.

How would that work with EarPods, or whatever the hell they're called?

Here's an full explanation

An antennae is a metallic conductor. Headphones are insulated metal wire with a coil surrounding a magnet at one end and a thick metal jack at the other. It works as an antennae by picking up the energy in a radio wave, an oscillating electric current, and supplying it to a tuner.


Antenna. Antennae are on insects.

/antenna engineer
 
2017-09-30 06:07:38 AM  
I'm not sure how useful hand crank devices would be as power requirements climb.
I remember hand crank radios taking an annoying amount of winding to stay on.

Batteries and a way to charge them is more convenient. A day of solar from a 100 watt panel can charge a phone enough to keep you in constant communication. Your cranking time is better spent cleaning or resting.
I've found that simple things take longer and daylight is short. You've got to mind your time budget.

Three other things that may be of value:
Bleach, you can never have enough.
A rain bucket with a spigot in the kitchen, cause convenient water is a blessing.
Ear plugs, because both the screams of the undead and the sound of your dog licking his balls WILL drive you nuts.

/seriously, ear plugs. Why don't prepper guides mention these more often?
 
2017-09-30 10:58:44 AM  

mongbiohazard: NotThatGuyAgain: hashtag.acronym: My LG G3 has a built-in FM radio....only mine is the AT&T version so the FM antenna is soldered to the ground so it doesn't work.  A very skilled electronics technician could maybe make it work.

Almost everyone posting in this thread with a phone from AT&T & Verizon from 2013 to now is likely in the same situation as me.

I have an S7 Edge on AT&T and the FM radio works great.

I'm typing this on an S7 Edge right now and........ it has an FM radio? I had no idea. Which is the app for it? Doubt I'll ever use it, since commercial radio sucks and my MP3's don't have commercial interruptions, but now I'm curious...


NextRadio.
 
2017-09-30 11:39:42 AM  

TotallyHeadless: Merltech: BizarreMan: Merltech: 1. Most phones I know of can't receive FM unless you use headphones as an antenna. So they are useless anyway.

How would that work with EarPods, or whatever the hell they're called?

Here's an full explanation

An antennae is a metallic conductor. Headphones are insulated metal wire with a coil surrounding a magnet at one end and a thick metal jack at the other. It works as an antennae by picking up the energy in a radio wave, an oscillating electric current, and supplying it to a tuner.

Antenna. Antennae are on insects.

/antenna engineer


It's so strange that the plural is different depending on if it is made out of bug or metal.
 
2017-09-30 07:34:30 PM  

Walker: How they gonna charge their damn phones when 100% of the island has no power?


12V car USB power adapters are like 99¢
 
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