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(Variety)   Lynda Carter to James Cameron: "STOP dissing WW. You poor soul. Perhaps you do not understand the character. I most certainly do. Like all women--we are more than the sum of our parts...This movie was spot on. Gal Gadot was great"   ( variety.com) divider line
    More: Followup, James Cameron, Patty Jenkins, director James Cameron, Wonder Woman, Sarah Connor, Lynda Carter, poor soul, TV series  
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2017-09-29 07:21:46 AM  
37 votes:

Ed Grubermann: JerkStore: I'd just like to go on record that I would still hit it with Lynda Carter. I'd totally wreck that 70 year old hotness.

She looks too much like my idiot aunt for me.


I want to bang your aunt
2017-09-29 09:32:55 AM  
30 votes:

I May Be Crazy But...: Tyrone Slothrop: Eh, the villains were underdeveloped, but that's to be expected in an origin movie.

I was angry about three things in Wonder Woman.

1) That the villain turned out to be a single individual instead of the dark impulses that are in all of us.
2) She never did the spin.
3) My wife won't dress up as Wonder Woman for me.

In increasing order of importance, of course.


Weird.  She dresses up for me.
2017-09-29 05:57:00 AM  
25 votes:

Summoner101: Because males who play action heroes never mod...


I dunno, I mod, all the time, when I am designing the Peter Griffin mod for Supreme Commander.  "Remember that one time I used nuclear weapons on the neighbors?"  And then BOOM, game over, I'm the best.

The point I'm making is that Gal Gadot sucks at both the nuclear weapons and the martial arts.  (Which is weird on both counts, since she's Israeli.)  If a male model sucks at the martial arts, like when Vince McMahon gets his roided-out bodybuilder types to fake wrestle, then I will call them out, and that's when Steven Seagal will be like, "Don't mess with Mike, he's a bad dude."

Anyway, I'm pretty sure Lynda Carter and Gal Gadot have never thrown a punch in their lives, and can't be taught to do it, and can't pretend to do it, so they shouldn't be doing it.  Still though, I think we can agree that we DO need to kill all of the men.  Whatever the male equivalent of cooties is, men have it, and it's a threat to us all.
2017-09-29 01:40:01 PM  
24 votes:

Ed Grubermann: DubyaHater: Ed Grubermann: JerkStore: I'd just like to go on record that I would still hit it with Lynda Carter. I'd totally wreck that 70 year old hotness.

She looks too much like my idiot aunt for me.

I want to bang your aunt

Okay....

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2017-09-29 04:02:49 AM  
22 votes:

rzrwiresunrise: img.fark.net
img.fark.net


Models cosplaying action heroes!  Hell yea!!  #feminism #gurlpower #killallmen
2017-09-29 06:35:45 AM  
21 votes:

ol' gormsby: Try decaf.


We're on a shiatpost with NO BRAKESS
2017-09-29 08:01:06 AM  
19 votes:

fastfxr: Still haven't seen this movie, and now probably won't. Any time a movie is "you either get it or you don't" or "well you're THIS, so you can't understand THAT", I tend to turn away. Throw in the "what a strong female role" reviews this got and I can safely assume it's crap.


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2017-09-29 07:54:39 AM  
16 votes:

Noah_Tall: I wouldn't mind superhero movies with heroes who are overweight or scrawny and don't seem to know how to fight. When you are strong enough to pick up and throw a car then it would be like a normal person living on the moon. Atrophy is going to happen unless you set up a gym where you can regularly lift weights that challenge your strength. Clark Kent's real disguise should have been that he looked positively anorexic and his superman costume was padded.

Highly skilled humans need to look buff. Super beings don't.


To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Wonder Woman. The storytelling is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of third-wave feminism most of the misogyny will go over a typical viewers head. There's also Diana's positive outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterisation- her personal philosophy draws heavily from Anita Sarkeesian, for instance.  The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of the matriarchy, to realise that they're not just feminists- they say something deep about LIFE.  As a consequence people who dislike Wonder Woman truly ARE misogynists- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the submissive undertones of Diana's lasso, which itself is a cryptic reference to Betty Friedan's The Feminine Mystique. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Patty Jenkin's genius wit unfolds itself on their movie screens.  What fools.. how I pity them. And yes, by the way, i DO have a Wonder Woman tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably higher) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
2017-09-29 01:11:01 PM  
12 votes:

DubyaHater: Ed Grubermann: JerkStore: I'd just like to go on record that I would still hit it with Lynda Carter. I'd totally wreck that 70 year old hotness.

She looks too much like my idiot aunt for me.

I want to bang your aunt


Okay....
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2017-09-29 05:47:38 AM  
12 votes:
What not enough giant blue Smurfs in it for him?
2017-09-29 07:17:00 AM  
10 votes:
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2017-09-29 08:36:28 AM  
9 votes:

Lydia_C: Movie screen fighting is rarely realistic even with male actors. Guys who complain about realism of WW fighting are pretty much full of it - playing Dark Souls 3 for hours on end doesn't make you an expert.


Convincing =/= realistic.  John Wick is not realistic, but it's awesome, and therefore convincing.

And yes, I am an expert on the martial arts, I have been thrown out of women's self-defense seminars on multiple occasions, for being a man.  Total misandry, if you ask me.
2017-09-29 05:55:09 AM  
9 votes:

EvilEgg: Anyone who says it's more than the sum of its parts, just has poor part accounting.


Counterpoint: the parts are very, very nice.
2017-09-29 05:46:25 AM  
9 votes:

Mike_LowELL: rzrwiresunrise: img.fark.net
img.fark.net

Models cosplaying action heroes!  Hell yea!!  #feminism #gurlpower #killallmen


Because males who play action heroes never mod...

*checks username*

Nevermind.
2017-09-29 02:40:12 PM  
8 votes:

foo monkey: TNel: fastfxr: Still haven't seen this movie, and now probably won't. Any time a movie is "you either get it or you don't" or "well you're THIS, so you can't understand THAT", I tend to turn away. Throw in the "what a strong female role" reviews this got and I can safely assume it's crap.

Did you watch Captain America?  Well replace the male lead with a female lead and bam you now have WW.

Steve Rogers could never pull off this dress.

[www.frockflicks.com image 600x898]


Two possible responses come to mind:

A> He totally could, but he'd be thinking of Peggy and/or Sharon

or

B>  He totally could:

nerdreactor.com
kab
2017-09-29 11:23:05 AM  
8 votes:
2017-09-29 09:29:56 AM  
7 votes:

Tyrone Slothrop: Eh, the villains were underdeveloped, but that's to be expected in an origin movie.


I was angry about three things in Wonder Woman.

1) That the villain turned out to be a single individual instead of the dark impulses that are in all of us.
2) She never did the spin.
3) My wife won't dress up as Wonder Woman for me.

In increasing order of importance, of course.
2017-09-29 06:59:25 AM  
7 votes:
Rose threw the diamond in the Atlantic! What the f*ck, Camaeron?  I guess she was a strong female character when she killed Jack, so we have that.
2017-09-29 02:04:08 PM  
6 votes:
HEY GUYS, HAS ANYONE MENTIONED THAT WONDER WOMAN'S CREATOR WAS INTO BONDAGE?

BECAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO A MODERN DISCUSSION OF THE CHARACTER!!!
2017-09-29 12:57:33 PM  
6 votes:

TNel: fastfxr: Still haven't seen this movie, and now probably won't. Any time a movie is "you either get it or you don't" or "well you're THIS, so you can't understand THAT", I tend to turn away. Throw in the "what a strong female role" reviews this got and I can safely assume it's crap.

Did you watch Captain America?  Well replace the male lead with a female lead and bam you now have WW.


Steve Rogers could never pull off this dress.

www.frockflicks.com
2017-09-29 10:41:07 AM  
6 votes:
Isn't this Cameron the same one who remade "Dances with Wolves" using blue Indians?
2017-09-29 09:19:32 AM  
5 votes:

tin_man: Chris Ween: Rose threw the diamond in the Atlantic! What the f*ck, Camaeron?  I guess she was a strong female character when she killed Jack, so we have that.

And then pined for him for the rest of her life, while letting some other poor sap provide for her under the guise of love.


She is as bad as Jenny from Forrest Gump...who grew up to be Wonder Woman's aunt who taught her to fight.  OMG it all makes sense now.
2017-09-29 06:14:01 AM  
5 votes:

Mike_LowELL: Summoner101: Because males who play action heroes never mod...

I dunno, I mod, all the time, when I am designing the Peter Griffin mod for Supreme Commander.  "Remember that one time I used nuclear weapons on the neighbors?"  And then BOOM, game over, I'm the best.

The point I'm making is that Gal Gadot sucks at both the nuclear weapons and the martial arts.  (Which is weird on both counts, since she's Israeli.)  If a male model sucks at the martial arts, like when Vince McMahon gets his roided-out bodybuilder types to fake wrestle, then I will call them out, and that's when Steven Seagal will be like, "Don't mess with Mike, he's a bad dude."

Anyway, I'm pretty sure Lynda Carter and Gal Gadot have never thrown a punch in their lives, and can't be taught to do it, and can't pretend to do it, so they shouldn't be doing it.  Still though, I think we can agree that we DO need to kill all of the men.  Whatever the male equivalent of cooties is, men have it, and it's a threat to us all.


Try decaf.
2017-09-29 04:15:15 PM  
4 votes:

foo monkey: TNel: fastfxr: Still haven't seen this movie, and now probably won't. Any time a movie is "you either get it or you don't" or "well you're THIS, so you can't understand THAT", I tend to turn away. Throw in the "what a strong female role" reviews this got and I can safely assume it's crap.

Did you watch Captain America?  Well replace the male lead with a female lead and bam you now have WW.

Steve Rogers could never pull off this dress.

[www.frockflicks.com image 600x898]


Pfft. Says you.

i.pinimg.com
2017-09-29 01:13:34 PM  
4 votes:

Ed Grubermann: DubyaHater: Ed Grubermann: JerkStore: I'd just like to go on record that I would still hit it with Lynda Carter. I'd totally wreck that 70 year old hotness.

She looks too much like my idiot aunt for me.

I want to bang your aunt

Okay....
[img.fark.net image 342x400]


Penis goes whar?
2017-09-29 09:52:34 AM  
4 votes:
I thought it was a fine retelling of The Fifth Element. Can't we just leave it at that?
2017-09-29 08:21:21 AM  
4 votes:

Mike_LowELL: Noah_Tall: I wouldn't mind superhero movies with heroes who are overweight or scrawny and don't seem to know how to fight. When you are strong enough to pick up and throw a car then it would be like a normal person living on the moon. Atrophy is going to happen unless you set up a gym where you can regularly lift weights that challenge your strength. Clark Kent's real disguise should have been that he looked positively anorexic and his superman costume was padded.

Highly skilled humans need to look buff. Super beings don't.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Wonder Woman. The storytelling is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of third-wave feminism most of the misogyny will go over a typical viewers head. There's also Diana's positive outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterisation- her personal philosophy draws heavily from Anita Sarkeesian, for instance.  The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of the matriarchy, to realise that they're not just feminists- they say something deep about LIFE.  As a consequence people who dislike Wonder Woman truly ARE misogynists- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the submissive undertones of Diana's lasso, which itself is a cryptic reference to Betty Friedan's The Feminine Mystique. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Patty Jenkin's genius wit unfolds itself on their movie screens.  What fools.. how I pity them. And yes, by the way, i DO have a Wonder Woman tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably higher) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.


Pace yourself. I've got a feeling it's going to be a long day.
2017-09-29 07:54:57 AM  
4 votes:
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Feminism has a sponsor now and don't you forget it.

That means it's real for all you old farts out there who keep yelling at me to get off of your lawn.
2017-09-29 06:34:59 AM  
4 votes:

josephina: He is right on one count- Sarah Connor kicked azz, and more realistically than WW. But WW is cool, in that fantasy superhero sorta way. No real comparison to make except that they're both female characters.


*psst*! You can say "ass" here. Hell, we don't even mind "arse". And if you're really daring, you can say "bum"! Insane! I know!
2017-09-29 06:11:40 PM  
3 votes:

peterthx: cefm: James Cameron may want to shut the fark up.  His last forays into film have sucked hind tit.

I'm sure he's crying into the billions his last forays have made.


Never criticize a rich person's work, cefm. They are your betters. Your betters!
2017-09-29 10:52:43 AM  
3 votes:
"Avatar 2" will feature a character in a red / white / blue outfit and a gold tiara. Cameron will insist he thought of that idea back in 1823, and get irate when anyone suggests it's less-than-original.
2017-09-29 10:51:02 AM  
3 votes:

josephina: He is right on one count- Sarah Connor kicked azz, and more realistically than WW. But WW is cool, in that fantasy superhero sorta way. No real comparison to make except that they're both female characters.


The first thing I look for in my demigod based superheroes is realism.
2017-09-29 10:01:28 AM  
3 votes:

JerkStore: I'd just like to go on record that I would still hit it with Lynda Carter. I'd totally wreck that 70 year old hotness.


She's only 66, but by the looks of this line she might be 70 by the time it's your turn.
2017-09-29 08:38:11 AM  
3 votes:

foo monkey: Pace yourself. I've got a feeling it's going to be a long day.


The terms of my contract are pretty complicated, but I'm getting double bonus points for double XP right now.  I gotta make my posts count.

No matter anyway, I'll be asleep in about thirty minutes.  Driving to work in a second.
2017-09-29 07:00:54 AM  
3 votes:
Also, I'm glad James Cameron is back in the news.  He probably isn't here to hawk any new Terminator movies.  I'm sure this is his sincere opinion.  Oh, he is working on a new Terminator Trilogy?  I'm shocked that he is out there drumming up outrage and controversy.
2017-09-29 06:22:50 AM  
3 votes:
Still haven't seen this movie, and now probably won't. Any time a movie is "you either get it or you don't" or "well you're THIS, so you can't understand THAT", I tend to turn away. Throw in the "what a strong female role" reviews this got and I can safely assume it's crap.
2017-09-29 01:35:04 PM  
2 votes:

Mugato: peterthx: Jim_Callahan: The whole DC comics movie thing was also on the verge of complete collapse, with only Suicide Squad (a film notable for not having any of the valuable, expensive DC characters in it)

Batman & Joker aren't valuable DC characters?

I think Harley Quinn is climbing the ladder.


I'll be right behind her on that ladder...
2017-09-29 11:44:59 AM  
2 votes:

fastfxr: Still haven't seen this movie, and now probably won't. Any time a movie is "you either get it or you don't" or "well you're THIS, so you can't understand THAT", I tend to turn away. Throw in the "what a strong female role" reviews this got and I can safely assume it's crap.


I for one am excited to rent this on Amazon on our basement system and have my daughter have a sleepover. DC got one right and hopefully it isn't the last. Probably time it for when I have Boy Scout camp with my son, the estrogen flowing in my house that weekend might cover everything in glitter and rainbows.
2017-09-29 07:30:47 AM  
2 votes:
James Cameron is just trolling because Space Smurfs is no longer the biggest picture EVER. Stop feeding him, Lynda.

/and you are spot on right,Lynda
2017-09-29 07:26:01 AM  
2 votes:
I wouldn't mind superhero movies with heroes who are overweight or scrawny and don't seem to know how to fight.  When you are strong enough to pick up and throw a car then it would be like a normal person living on the moon.  Atrophy is going to happen unless you set up a gym where you can regularly lift weights that challenge your strength.  Clark Kent's real disguise should have been that he looked positively anorexic and his superman costume was padded.

Highly skilled humans need to look buff.  Super beings don't.

That all said I still haven't seen WW although I own it.  And I haven't read any of the rants Cameron has made yet.  So in this I have proven myself to be a true Farker.
2017-09-29 06:43:22 AM  
2 votes:
I enjoyed Wonder Woman, but I found I had the hawts for Hiposomethingorother. I think Robin Wright played her, and to be fair the other older ladies were sexy af too. Wonder Woman was just ok, so I missed Cameron's reasoning that she was some kind of sex symbol. I've seen sexier at the mall. And man, her knees...
2017-09-29 06:41:13 AM  
2 votes:
It did seem incredibly petty at the time, when he made those comments. T2 was on the other day, and in context to those comments, i was looking for something in depth about Sarah Connor.... What? She does chin-ups in jail?  That makes her some heroine or something?
2017-09-29 02:36:04 PM  
1 vote:
Cameron's problem is that he keeps thinking its a zero sum game. Sarah Conor is a great character and Wonder Woman changes that in no way shape or form. I loved the first two Terminator movies. Because I loved Wonder Woman I did not leave the theater thinking, 'After seeing Wonder Woman I guess the Sarah Conor character really sucked."
2017-09-29 01:44:05 PM  
1 vote:

Yankees Team Gynecologist: Ed Grubermann: DubyaHater: Ed Grubermann: JerkStore: I'd just like to go on record that I would still hit it with Lynda Carter. I'd totally wreck that 70 year old hotness.

She looks too much like my idiot aunt for me.

I want to bang your aunt

Okay....
[img.fark.net image 342x400]

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Thanks, now I have some 'splainin' to do at work. Purchasing isn't supposed to be funny.
2017-09-29 01:09:33 PM  
1 vote:

GungFu: No joke, this is from Avatar 2: Kiddy Smurfs


Yeah I'll be skipping the rest of the 15 Avatars. I saw it for the 3D before I hated 3D and the VFX was all it had going for it. Sam Worthington makes Channing Tatum look like Al Pacino after a couple 8 balls. And everything about the story's already been said.

To this day I can't explain how it became the #1 highest grossing movie of all time (not adjusting for inflation). Must have been the extra 3D fee.
2017-09-29 10:53:37 AM  
1 vote:

PerpetualPeristalsis: Isn't this Cameron the same one who remade "Dances with Wolves" using blue Indians?


I thought it was a remake of "Ferngully".
2017-09-29 10:52:07 AM  
1 vote:

EmptyCup: Mike_LowELL: John Wick is not realistic

it'srealtome.jpg

John Wick, the Accountant, and Leon are in a fight to the death. Discuss.

Also, I enjoyed WW much more than I thought I would. There wasn't anything really super special about the movie (not talking about behind the scenes implications with women, etc.) and was another superhero origin story, but it was really well done. When it comes up for rent I'd watch it again.


Leon.  He knew about the fight ahead of time and blew that shiat up, not even bothering to show up.
2017-09-29 09:42:57 AM  
1 vote:

Mike_LowELL: John Wick is not realistic


it'srealtome.jpg

John Wick, the Accountant, and Leon are in a fight to the death. Discuss.

Also, I enjoyed WW much more than I thought I would. There wasn't anything really super special about the movie (not talking about behind the scenes implications with women, etc.) and was another superhero origin story, but it was really well done. When it comes up for rent I'd watch it again.
2017-09-29 09:41:45 AM  
1 vote:
Someone forgot to lock up Mike_LowELL's medicine cabinet.

I love it.
2017-09-29 09:19:08 AM  
1 vote:

Lydia_C: Can't wait to hear what James Cameron thinks of Alicia Vikander as Lara Croft. /sarcasm

IMHO, one of the reasons WW resonated so much with women: Here was a female character that just did, because it never occurs to her that she can't, or shouldn't. I think there's probably very few women who would give much of a shiat about the realism of fighting scenes in that context.

Movie screen fighting is rarely realistic even with male actors. Guys who complain about realism of WW fighting are pretty much full of it - playing Dark Souls 3 for hours on end doesn't make you an expert.


This, dammit.

I think I earn most of my misogyny points for being pissed when they make a movie where they tell, not show. I really don't like when they make a character that is SUPPOSEDLY awesome and the best ever but you never see any evidence of that. Is there a meta gyno Miles Gloriosus?
2017-09-29 07:27:59 AM  
1 vote:

Ed Grubermann: josephina: He is right on one count- Sarah Connor kicked azz, and more realistically than WW. But WW is cool, in that fantasy superhero sorta way. No real comparison to make except that they're both female characters.

*psst*! You can say "ass" here. Hell, we don't even mind "arse". And if you're really daring, you can say "bum"! Insane! I know!


Reported.
2017-09-29 07:27:05 AM  
1 vote:

Ed Grubermann: JerkStore: I'd just like to go on record that I would still hit it with Lynda Carter. I'd totally wreck that 70 year old hotness.

She looks too much like my idiot aunt for me.


Updates farky....
2017-09-29 06:42:27 AM  
1 vote:

fastfxr: Still haven't seen this movie, and now probably won't. Any time a movie is "you either get it or you don't" or "well you're THIS, so you can't understand THAT", I tend to turn away. Throw in the "what a strong female role" reviews this got and I can safely assume it's crap.


I'm always a bit puzzled by people that post things that are almost explicitly "everyone who knows about movies professionally always disagrees with me" in these threads.

I mean, you seem to be under the impression that you just said that you have some special insight from the tone, but the actual literal meaning of what you're saying is that you willfully and intentionally make decisions regarding your media consumption that you know to be bad choices.

... which, don't get me wrong, you're allowed to do, it's your time and money.  I'm just unsure what value you think sharing the fact that you know your taste in films is bad and are doubling down on it instead of questioning why has to other people.
2017-09-29 06:38:20 AM  
1 vote:

Mike_LowELL: rzrwiresunrise: img.fark.net
img.fark.net

Models cosplaying action heroes!  Hell yea!!  #feminism #gurlpower #killallmen


Easy there, Bahar Mustafa.
2017-09-29 06:35:56 AM  
1 vote:

JerkStore: I'd just like to go on record that I would still hit it with Lynda Carter. I'd totally wreck that 70 year old hotness.


She looks too much like my idiot aunt for me.
2017-09-29 06:26:36 AM  
1 vote:
I'd just like to go on record that I would still hit it with Lynda Carter. I'd totally wreck that 70 year old hotness.
2017-09-29 05:49:49 AM  
1 vote:
Anyone who says it's more than the sum of its parts, just has poor part accounting.
2017-09-29 02:21:36 AM  
1 vote:
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2017-09-28 11:54:41 PM  
1 vote:
Bobbie Jo and the Outlaw was a great movie
 
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