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2017-09-29 06:43:09 AM  
31 votes:
Oy, Dawson's Creek is how Mrs. dragonchild got her celeb crush on Michelle Williams.

As for Pulaski, I thought she made Star Trek: TNG much more interesting than Bev Crusher.  Here was a woman who wasn't physically attractive (Troi was already the eye candy and otherwise more of a liability), could be abrasive, was even somewhat of a bigot toward Data but also had the air of unimpeachable competence.  I thought Diana Muldaur gave her a pretty good identity and plenty of chemistry in her own way -- the others played off her flaws.  Dr. Crusher played by McFadden was kind of just this one-note huffy biatch who happened to be a doctor.
2017-09-29 03:07:23 AM  
28 votes:
I wanted to punch this one in the face when I was a kid.
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2017-09-29 07:38:38 AM  
22 votes:
Married With Children's Seven really has to be in here.
2017-09-29 07:07:56 AM  
17 votes:

BalugaJoe: List needs Commander Sinclair.


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Sinclair was written out because Michael O'Hare's schizophrenia was beginning to affect his work. JMS offered to suspend production for him to seek treatment but O'Hare felt that a break would threaten the future of the show so asked JMS to write him off the show.
2017-09-29 07:10:07 AM  
12 votes:
Angel the best romantic lead in TV history? I know several Buffy fans who don't care about Angel but would take Spike any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
2017-09-29 07:55:35 AM  
10 votes:
They should make a list of characters that ruined shows but somehow stayed around.
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2017-09-29 06:46:57 AM  
9 votes:
In one season Pulaski had 10x the personality Crusher ever had
2017-09-29 03:23:54 AM  
8 votes:

Farking Clown Shoes: List fails without SHUT UP WESLEY!, but I guess they figured they couldn't do a TNG twofer.


I just found out Crusher was almost played by

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Jenny Agutter.
2017-09-29 07:05:13 AM  
7 votes:
List fails without Mandy.
2017-09-29 03:04:56 AM  
7 votes:
9. Doctor Katherine Pulaski - Star Trek: The Next Generation

Sadly she fell down an empty turboshaft.
2017-09-29 09:42:19 AM  
6 votes:

Farking Clown Shoes: List fails without SHUT UP WESLEY!, but I guess they figured they couldn't do a TNG twofer.


He wasn't written out, he left on his own.  They didn't want him to go, but he was trying to break free before he became a Trek-lifer.  A dumb move, he later admits.  But they weren't treating him well, and were restricting other projects he was interested in.  So he left.

dragonchild: As for Pulaski, I thought she made Star Trek: TNG much more interesting than Bev Crusher.


Yes and no.  I agree she generally had more interesting aspects that added a little testy conflict, but they basically just wrote a female McCoy, practically without variation.  Being a dick to Data didn't help endear her to the fans.  Though I did like how they attached her to Riker's father, and her pushy relationship with Picard was scripted pretty well.

In the end, you get the impression she never fit in with the "family" on the show, and everyone involved was happier when Gates returned.
2017-09-29 03:43:25 PM  
5 votes:

DjangoStonereaver: mrsleep: 9 was a no brainer.
Gates McFadden is WAY hotter than Diana Muldaur

When you account for the temporal vectoring, that advantage disappears:

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Actually thought she looked better in her other TOS appearance:

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2017-09-29 10:28:35 AM  
5 votes:

Khellendros: Farking Clown Shoes: List fails without SHUT UP WESLEY!, but I guess they figured they couldn't do a TNG twofer.

He wasn't written out, he left on his own.  They didn't want him to go, but he was trying to break free before he became a Trek-lifer.  A dumb move, he later admits.  But they weren't treating him well, and were restricting other projects he was interested in.  So he left.


Yeah, you're right, he wasn't completely written out, and he came back later in the movies - although most of his wedding appearance ended up on the cutting-room floor. Still, the first two seasons of TNG are considered the weakest, and IIRC a lot of that is because lazy writing had the boy-genius saving the ship so often. He was their personified deux ex machina.

dragonchild: As for Pulaski, I thought she made Star Trek: TNG much more interesting than Bev Crusher.

Yes and no.  I agree she generally had more interesting aspects that added a little testy conflict, but they basically just wrote a female McCoy, practically without variation.  Being a dick to Data didn't help endear her to the fans.  Though I did like how they attached her to Riker's father, and her pushy relationship with Picard was scripted pretty well.

In the end, you get the impression she never fit in with the "family" on the show, and everyone involved was happier when Gates returned.


They really screwed the pooch with her character. She was supposed to be crusty and crotchety like McCoy, so they tried to generate the same kind of McCoy/Spock dynamic with her and Data. But it the justification they gave for her disliking Data was that he was an android, making her seem like a big old bigot. Teenage me hated her for that.
2017-09-29 10:12:37 AM  
5 votes:

batlock666: Angel the best romantic lead in TV history? I know several Buffy fans who don't care about Angel but would take Spike any day of the week and twice on Sunday.


With good reason. Angel didn't even have a personality until about five or six episodes before he left for his own show.

likefunbutnot: Riley from Buffy was kind of a bad mix. Season 4 Buffy cooperated with and worked against a group of roided out and later zombified military operatives. Once Adam was defeated, Riley was still very much a member of that group and logically had to go where the military sent him. He offered to take her with him in a one-off episode later in the series. She decided not to go. He definitely got a send off and at least some fans like him as a character. He was more or less the one decent guy Buffy dated during the series. I love BtVS to death but pairing her with either Vampire lead is super cringey to me.


You missed a bit of his arc. He left the Initiative/military before the finale against Adam, and actually reenlisted to join that demon-hunting special forces unit in his send-off episode. Between those he was thoroughly lost, and was getting suck-jobs from vampires while knowing Buffy had lost interest in him.

I swear the showrunners just couldn't agree on what to do with his character, but Marc Blucas gave a good performance.
2017-09-29 07:54:25 AM  
5 votes:
It's not really fair to say the Lost characters were "written out." It was just a stupid ill-advised and poorly conceived side episode.

Also this list needs the youngest daughter from Family Matters.
2017-09-29 07:48:04 AM  
5 votes:

Snapper Carr: BalugaJoe: List needs Commander Sinclair.

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Sinclair was written out because Michael O'Hare's schizophrenia was beginning to affect his work. JMS offered to suspend production for him to seek treatment but O'Hare felt that a break would threaten the future of the show so asked JMS to write him off the show.


TIL.
2017-09-29 07:34:48 AM  
5 votes:

LoneWolf343: Plant Rights Activist: In one season Pulaski had 10x the personality Crusher ever had

Stuck-up biatch is a kind of personality, I guess.


She may have been hard on Data, but who else really got to know Worf in a short basis the way she did?

She was cool with the Klingon. I liked that.
2017-09-29 01:24:59 AM  
5 votes:
List needs Commander Sinclair.
2017-09-29 01:05:36 PM  
4 votes:
PS: List fails without Seven on Married With Children

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love the way they lampshaded it
2017-09-29 11:33:04 AM  
4 votes:

abhorrent1: PlaidJaguar: abhorrent1: [img.fark.net image 232x317]

He wasn't written out of the show for being a terrible character.  He was written out of the show for objecting to the dismissal of the original showrunner

Was still a terrible character


Which ones aren't terrible characters?
2017-09-29 10:54:35 AM  
4 votes:

Khellendros: I agree she generally had more interesting aspects that added a little testy conflict, but they basically just wrote a female McCoy, practically without variation. Being a dick to Data didn't help endear her to the fans.

Without variation?  She wasn't openly hostile to Data like McCoy was to Spock; she was just a purist who considered him a machine, a view shared by others in the Federation who hadn't gotten to know him.  Consider that as a physician she's only ever worked on blood-and-guts "organic" life whereas Data himself was always repaired by the ship's chief engineer.  And since she was a newcomer I thought that was something they'd work on over time, and IIRC they were moving in that direction.  It'd have been more unrealistic if she just waltzed on board and fit like a glove.  And Muldaur gave Pulaski more of a maternal aloofness to compare to McCoy's yelling-at-clouds crustiness.

As for endearing, you don't always want to listen to fans in that regard because being unlikable could be the point.  GoT fans hate Joffrey but they tuned in regularly to watch that trainwreck.  Now, I personally don't care for dog-eat-dog dystopias but Pulaski's abrasiveness was downright tame even in a competence porn show.  And if anything, I found Dr. Crusher more of a biatch because if Pulaski could be quippy at times, it seemed like Crusher was perpetually annoyed for no reason at all.
2017-09-29 08:52:02 AM  
4 votes:

dragonchild: Oy, Dawson's Creek is how Mrs. dragonchild got her celeb crush on Michelle Williams.

As for Pulaski, I thought she made Star Trek: TNG much more interesting than Bev Crusher.  Here was a woman who wasn't physically attractive (Troi was already the eye candy and otherwise more of a liability), could be abrasive, was even somewhat of a bigot toward Data but also had the air of unimpeachable competence.  I thought Diana Muldaur gave her a pretty good identity and plenty of chemistry in her own way -- the others played off her flaws.  Dr. Crusher played by McFadden was kind of just this one-note huffy biatch who happened to be a doctor.


I always liked Pulaski as I found the whole Crusher/Picard/will they/won't they/Wesley may be their son/ nonsense real tiresome.
2017-09-29 08:03:51 AM  
4 votes:

HawgWild: List fails without Mandy.


Yep. Donna was far better in the foil to Joshua role
2017-09-29 07:36:27 AM  
4 votes:

batlock666: Angel the best romantic lead in TV history? I know several Buffy fans who don't care about Angel but would take Spike any day of the week and twice on Sunday.


Angel was essentially the "adult" relationship, where he sincerely put in effort and dealt with his other concerns to try to make it work (and ultimately failed because, like an adult, he couldn't afford to make romance his entire life).  Spike was the "teenager" relationship, where he was always trying to seem deep and rebellious but was actually harmless, but as a result of having nothing of actual import to do he could devote his entire life to the relationship and play the creepily devoted stalker, which I guess some people are into.

I don't know that either of them were really supposed to represent a good relationship.  I mean, the whole point of the show was an absurdly over-extended metaphor for how teenagers feel about things, and Buffy was played pretty straight as a teen despite the age of the actors and one who continually made terrible decisions even by teenager standards at that.
2017-09-29 03:46:44 PM  
3 votes:

carrion_luggage: Wasn't there a guy in S1 of Parks & Rec who was supposed to be whatsername's love interest? He seemed to vanish fairly quickly.


Mark was a wet blanket. Writing him out, changing Leslie, and turning Andy into a lovable goofball were the best moves the show could make.
2017-09-29 02:44:01 PM  
3 votes:

mrsleep: 9 was a no brainer.
Gates McFadden is WAY hotter than Diana Muldaur


When you account for the temporal vectoring, that advantage disappears:

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2017-09-29 09:54:37 AM  
3 votes:
I never really had a problem with Riley Finn.

I mean, for one thing, it was pretty obvious he wasn't going to be a long-term (beyond his one season) love interest.  Not from the writing of the character or any specific episodes, but because of the very nature of the show itself.  It's about growing up, and the relationship with him was the one that demonstrated that falling in love with someone doesn't mean they're your "one true love / soulmate / destiny" and that two people can be in love and then realize that it's not working out and move on, and that's ok.

Buffy's relationship with Angel was very much the immature teenage "We're so in love and we're going to be together forever" thing.  Riley was Buffy's first more adult relationship.

He did get a follow up episode in a later season, but of course he didn't appear in the final season or the finale - he was established as being part of a Government monster hunting squad, and pulling him into the finale would have brought the resources of the government with him - and since the whole theme of the finale was about the Slayers stepping up, having the Feds roll in would massively undercut that.  Also, there was nothing else for him to do, no other purpose for him to serve within the narrative; Buffy had already dealt with "My ex is with someone else now" in his follow-up ep.
2017-09-29 09:08:15 AM  
3 votes:
Brought into season four while Angel got his own series, and written out in season five because everyone hated him, Riley wasn't even invited back for the finale, which basically had EVERYONE in it.

Riley didn't need an invite to the finale.  The finale was already too crowded (look how short-changed Anya's death was).

Anyway Riley already had a good send off in he last episode As You Were where he's happily married and fighting along side with his wife and seeing this gives Buffy the strength to finally breakup with Spike.
2017-09-29 09:00:35 AM  
3 votes:

HawgWild: List fails without Mandy.


West Wing Mandy? Because that's the first thing I thought of. Gods, she was awful.
2017-09-29 07:37:41 AM  
3 votes:

BalugaJoe: List needs Commander Sinclair.


... I liked Sinclair. He had a great arc in the story.

/in Valen's name?
2017-09-30 09:00:26 AM  
2 votes:

Rocket To Russia: I'm surprised no Trekkies have mentioned Tasha Yar.


...IIRC, she wanted out because she felt that her role was too limited.  She loved being on TNG and has always spoken kindly of it (not to mention doing quite well at cons) but I think it was a case of a show having one too many potentially interesting characters...and Tasha Yar was it.
2017-09-29 01:20:57 PM  
2 votes:
Donna Pinciotti had a sister on that 70s show that vanished too.
2017-09-29 12:54:05 PM  
2 votes:

dragonchild: As for Pulaski, I thought she made Star Trek: TNG much more interesting than Bev Crusher. Here was a woman who wasn't physically attractive (Troi was already the eye candy and otherwise more of a liability), could be abrasive, was even somewhat of a bigot toward Data but also had the air of unimpeachable competence. I thought Diana Muldaur gave her a pretty good identity and plenty of chemistry in her own way -- the others played off her flaws


She was a McCoy ripoff and fans at the time saw right through that.
2017-09-29 12:14:41 PM  
2 votes:
9 was a no brainer.
Gates McFadden is WAY hotter than Diana Muldaur
2017-09-29 08:21:39 AM  
2 votes:
Riley...he really should have died in the season 4 finale.  In season 5 he mostly just stood behind Buffy waiting for the final action sequence to start.
2017-09-29 07:38:06 AM  
2 votes:

Shadow Blasko: LoneWolf343: Plant Rights Activist: In one season Pulaski had 10x the personality Crusher ever had

Stuck-up biatch is a kind of personality, I guess.

She may have been hard on Data, but who else really got to know Worf in a short basis the way she did?

She was cool with the Klingon. I liked that.


she was also right about Data.  He did hijack the ship several times.
2017-09-29 07:13:52 AM  
2 votes:

fusillade762: Farking Clown Shoes: List fails without SHUT UP WESLEY!, but I guess they figured they couldn't do a TNG twofer.

I just found out Crusher was almost played by

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Jenny Agutter.


Damn, now I'm imaging a Sejanus-era Sir Patrick as Logan.
2017-09-30 07:12:00 AM  
1 vote:
I'm surprised no Trekkies have mentioned Tasha Yar.
2017-09-30 03:29:41 AM  
1 vote:
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Here's an obscure one. Dodo Chaplet. She was a short-lived companion in the early days of Doctor Who. She was literally written out of the show mid-story. Dodo gets mind controlled by some evil supercomputer and isn't seen after part 2 of The War Machines. One of the other companions explains that she's gone to the country to recuperate. The actress' contract did not extend past the second episode so, bye.
2017-09-30 03:16:13 AM  
1 vote:

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: And then there's the way that (with only two exceptions), The Village wrote out the character of Number Two every week - once, they did two in one episode!

/I kid - or do I?
//Be Seeing You


To this day one of my favorite pieces of my childhood/teen years was watching reruns of that show.  Which explains quite a bit about how I turned out.

/will not be pushed
//filed
///stamped
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//briefed
//debriefed
//or numbered
2017-09-29 09:22:35 PM  
1 vote:
I didn't like Pulaski...at ALL, but she DID have a character.  She had a personality.  I didn't CARE for it, but she was a unique character on a show that still had yet to find it's "character's legs".

That being said, poor Worf had his pain stick thing with Geordi (ok), and Wesley, Pulaski and Chief O'Brien?  It's like when you HAD to invite the whole class but only the unpopular kids show up to your birthday party
2017-09-29 06:30:21 PM  
1 vote:
So - this "article" is not informative very much and says little to it's premise about "unpopularity". It is in effect a listicle in disguise.

Here's the list and my thoughts:

1. Coy & Vance Duke - Duke of Hazard: Unpopular? Yes, but weren't removed because of their unpopularity. CBS came to terms with Wopat and Schneider and they came back. And that was that.
2. Nikki Carpenter - MacGuyver - Dont know enough except the article has no documentation that she was removed due to hatred from the fans.
3. Eve - Dawson's Creek: This seems more like the result of internal showrunning changes than fan hatred. I'm not saying it's not true, its just the article once again kinda throws out ideas but no articles or links to support their claim that the character was sacked due to unpopularity rather than writing and production staff changes.
4. Vikki Costa - Just Shoot Me: Thee article mentions ratings drops. It would be cool to have a link to that. (Too lazy to google...)
5. Riley  - Buffy TVS: - The reason follows, but again, do we have anything to back this up? It makes total sense, as no one likes the "Different Actor Same (basic) character"-trope..
6. Chuck - Happy Days - An obvious entry, but was he 'hated"? It just seems more like he was so superfluous it made sense to just let him go rather than fans not liking him. Who knows.
7. Tori - Saved By The Bell: According to the article A) The series was ending B) They already shot the finale and C) the character/actors she was replacing already had other gigs, so while yes, she may have been an unliked character, her removal had nothing to do with that!
8. Nikki and Paolo - Lost: This actually makes sense, though I would suggest that if the characters of Nikki and Paolo were introduced more gradually over the course of a couple of seasons, fans would have been fine with them; their backstory and adventures went any better or worse than everyone else's, really. But out of nowhere having 2 new characters shoved down our throats would make any fan annoyed.
9. Pulaski - ST:TNG:I havent heard these rumors about friction in-staff. Perhaps Wil could offer his insight? (fat chance, hahah)

In the end, it just seems that this listicle is more like "Chracters that left shows and were never seen or referenced again". I suppose Farker fans of said shows could offer more insight?
2017-09-29 04:12:56 PM  
1 vote:

Incorrigible Astronaut: carrion_luggage: Wasn't there a guy in S1 of Parks & Rec who was supposed to be whatsername's love interest? He seemed to vanish fairly quickly.

Mark was a wet blanket. Writing him out, changing Leslie, and turning Andy into a lovable goofball were the best moves the show could make.

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For those who forget he even existed...

Yeah P&R's first 6 episodes were more like a giraffe finding out how to walk, so once it got past them it was a majestic creature.
2017-09-29 02:26:08 PM  
1 vote:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: abhorrent1: PlaidJaguar: abhorrent1: [img.fark.net image 232x317]

He wasn't written out of the show for being a terrible character.  He was written out of the show for objecting to the dismissal of the original showrunner

Was still a terrible character

Which ones aren't terrible characters?


Shhhh.  You're only supposed to comment on TWD if you LIKE the show.
Don't you know that?
2017-09-29 01:56:38 PM  
1 vote:

OtherLittleGuy: fusillade762: Farking Clown Shoes: List fails without SHUT UP WESLEY!, but I guess they figured they couldn't do a TNG twofer.

I just found out Crusher was almost played by

[img.fark.net image 451x600]

Jenny Agutter.

Damn, now I'm imaging a Sejanus-era Sir Patrick as Logan.


I'm glad there's another I, Claudius fan on this thread!👍
2017-09-29 01:14:37 PM  
1 vote:
Were Scrappy-Doo and Cousin Oliver on the list? (They should have been, if they weren't.)
And what about Chuck Cunningham?
2017-09-29 12:18:21 PM  
1 vote:

StopDaddy: Married With Children's Seven really has to be in here.


The upside (?) of that was that they could write around Katey Sagal's miscarriage as a dream sequence.
2017-09-29 11:25:22 AM  
1 vote:

abhorrent1: [img.fark.net image 232x317]


He wasn't written out of the show for being a terrible character.  He was written out of the show for objecting to the dismissal of the original showrunner
2017-09-29 10:53:21 AM  
1 vote:

clkeagle: batlock666: Angel the best romantic lead in TV history? I know several Buffy fans who don't care about Angel but would take Spike any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

With good reason. Angel didn't even have a personality until about five or six episodes before he left for his own show.


Some people also forget that a lot of the "Buffy/Angel Relationship" backstory was actually covered in Angel, too (as flashback, etc.) so his character wasn't fully fleshed out until well after he'd left Buffy.
2017-09-29 08:21:59 AM  
1 vote:
I wish there was more Roy.
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2017-09-29 07:19:08 AM  
1 vote:

Plant Rights Activist: In one season Pulaski had 10x the personality Crusher ever had


Stuck-up biatch is a kind of personality, I guess.
jbc [TotalFark]
2017-09-29 12:24:06 AM  
1 vote:
List fails without Jeff.
 
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