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(ABC News)   Oh, nothing, just Mueller investigating over a million dollars in Russian money funneled to Trump's campaign. Say... wasn't there a FISA warrant to track Russian money flowing into the U.S. campaign illegally?   ( abcnews.go.com) divider line
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2017-09-27 03:11:02 AM  
every time someone bad touches trump's cash flow, he goes off and does something incredibly stupid.  I wonder what our President will do as Mueller gets closer to the Oval Office?
 
2017-09-27 03:23:42 AM  

Weaver95: every time someone bad touches trump's cash flow, he goes off and does something incredibly stupid.  I wonder what our President will do as Mueller gets closer to the Oval Office?


Let's hope it's something like snake handling or bungee jumping.
 
2017-09-27 03:26:33 AM  

fusillade762: Weaver95: every time someone bad touches trump's cash flow, he goes off and does something incredibly stupid.  I wonder what our President will do as Mueller gets closer to the Oval Office?

Let's hope it's something like snake handling or bungee jumping.


his NFL thing didn't work out so well for him.  I suppose he could shut down the fedgov over the budget mess but that's not something he really has a lot of control over.  He could always saber rattle with NKorea some more, but at this point unless trump plans on starting WWIII, I think even the NKoreans are wise to the fact that trump ain't never gonna pull the trigger.  he's just too scared.
 
2017-09-27 03:57:06 AM  

Weaver95: fusillade762: Weaver95: every time someone bad touches trump's cash flow, he goes off and does something incredibly stupid.  I wonder what our President will do as Mueller gets closer to the Oval Office?

Let's hope it's something like snake handling or bungee jumping.

his NFL thing didn't work out so well for him.  I suppose he could shut down the fedgov over the budget mess but that's not something he really has a lot of control over.  He could always saber rattle with NKorea some more, but at this point unless trump plans on starting WWIII, I think even the NKoreans are wise to the fact that trump ain't never gonna pull the trigger.  he's just too scared.


Yeah, that's one of the many things he doesn't seem to get. Every time he threatens to annihilate NK and then does nothing when they provoke him again he looks weak. I guess he's so used to getting his way by bullying anyone who opposes him he doesn't have a plan for when it doesn't work.
 
2017-09-27 04:01:08 AM  

fusillade762: Yeah, that's one of the many things he doesn't seem to get. Every time he threatens to annihilate NK and then does nothing when they provoke him again he looks weak. I guess he's so used to getting his way by bullying anyone who opposes him he doesn't have a plan for when it doesn't work.


I don't think its even occurred to trump yet that he really CAN'T do anything about North Korea.  he's backed himself into a corner so completely that his only real option is war...but even there, he can't pull the trigger without facing immediate and very personal consequences for doing so.  And trump is all about avoiding consequences of his own actions.
 
2017-09-27 06:18:22 AM  

Weaver95: I don't think its even occurred to trump yet that he really CAN'T do anything about North Korea. he's backed himself into a corner so completely that his only real option is war...but even there, he can't pull the trigger without facing immediate and very personal consequences for doing so. And trump is all about avoiding consequences of his own actions.


You could say this about his entire farking presidency, and yet he's still here.
 
2017-09-27 06:48:29 AM  

Ambivalence: You could say this about his entire farking presidency, and yet he's still here.


trump seems to have opted for the death of a 1000 cuts.  I've never seen any US president become a lame duck in the first year of their first term.
 
2017-09-27 06:58:45 AM  

Weaver95: Ambivalence: You could say this about his entire farking presidency, and yet he's still here.

trump seems to have opted for the death of a 1000 cuts.  I've never seen any US president become a lame duck in the first year of their first term.


Looks like someone didn't see his remarks on his tax plan.

It's going to be "tremendous".  Have you ever written a tax bill that was TREMENDOUS?  I didn't think so.

Chessman.
 
2017-09-27 07:05:20 AM  

Weaver95: every time someone bad touches trump's cash flow, he goes off and does something incredibly stupid.  I wonder what our President will do as Mueller gets closer to the Oval Office?


Finger buttons.
And not on his clothes.
 
2017-09-27 07:25:44 AM  
I'm hoping they are building an air tight case that can never be beat.

You can't pardon someone for treason, can you?
 
2017-09-27 07:25:51 AM  

born_yesterday: Weaver95: Ambivalence: You could say this about his entire farking presidency, and yet he's still here.

trump seems to have opted for the death of a 1000 cuts.  I've never seen any US president become a lame duck in the first year of their first term.

Looks like someone didn't see his remarks on his tax plan.

It's going to be "tremendous".  Have you ever written a tax bill that was TREMENDOUS?  I didn't think so.

Chessman.


Then let him pass it.  In BOTH houses of congress, this time.
 
2017-09-27 07:35:08 AM  

Ambivalence: born_yesterday: Weaver95: Ambivalence: You could say this about his entire farking presidency, and yet he's still here.

trump seems to have opted for the death of a 1000 cuts.  I've never seen any US president become a lame duck in the first year of their first term.

Looks like someone didn't see his remarks on his tax plan.

It's going to be "tremendous".  Have you ever written a tax bill that was TREMENDOUS?  I didn't think so.

Chessman.

Then let him pass it.  In BOTH houses of congress, this time.


Have you seen the details of the Republican plan?  The only upside to it is the sheer number of BSAB morons it's going to screw over with the rest of us.
 
2017-09-27 07:43:06 AM  
Two million? That's it? Is this like scientists tracking a few salmon in their journey in order to know how the whole species acts?
 
2017-09-27 08:04:31 AM  

Ambivalence: Weaver95: I don't think its even occurred to trump yet that he really CAN'T do anything about North Korea. he's backed himself into a corner so completely that his only real option is war...but even there, he can't pull the trigger without facing immediate and very personal consequences for doing so. And trump is all about avoiding consequences of his own actions.

You could say this about his entire farking presidency, and yet he's still here.


For now, anyway. Mueller is closing in, and in the end, I expect things will go quite badly for Trump and Co.

They may end up getting pardons from President Pense (or President WhomeverFollowsPense, should Pense be implicated, as well), but the NY Attorney General will be right up their arses with State charges, should they accept a pardon on Federal charges. In the end, many of Trump's cadre will go to jail, perhaps even the President himself.
 
2017-09-27 08:08:47 AM  
speaking of Russian money, there's more news in regards to Russia and Facebook. Seems Zuckerberg knew of Russian bots as early as 2015
 
2017-09-27 08:16:54 AM  
also, this story may lead credence to the RICO case rumor. The money likely didn't only go to the Trump campaign, but was spread out to many GOP campaigns and superPACs
 
2017-09-27 08:17:15 AM  
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2017-09-27 08:19:34 AM  
You know, up until the pther morning, the NPR people have treated the very idea of Trump being forced to resign/being impeached as so remote that it's not really worth commenting upon.  "Liberals must abandon this fantasy; Trump will serve all 4 years."  NPR is not given to wild sensationalism.

This morning, however, their expert round table tackled the question -- is there any chance that Mueller's investigation could bear catastrophic fruit? The consensus seemed to be that, given the escalations in the last few months -- the raid of Manafort's house, both Manafort and Flynn's sons being investigated, etc.... that there DOES exist the possibility, even the likelihood, of something big.

"Legally and politically, we would be in uncharted waters."  "If this is what some might say it appears to be, we will wake up in a very different world."

I want to wake up one morning and have my phone buzzing with the news that Mueller dropped the bomb.  And the next month between that day and Trump's resignation will be the craziest 30 days in recent memory.
 
2017-09-27 08:19:47 AM  
I was watching the Viet Nam series on PBS last night. NIxon speaking to a so-called "Silent Majority" sure touched a few parallels to Chump's style of handling criticism.
 
2017-09-27 08:19:52 AM  

Weaver95: trump seems to have opted for the death of a 1000 cuts. I've never seen any US president become a lame duck in the first year of their first term.


He became a lame duck before his inauguration was even over, standing in the downpour and declaring it a bright sunny day. His fanboys have been desperately trying to pinpoint a moment among the many incidents of his flailing around like a shrieking five year old as the moment that he finally became presidential, but that turned out to be an impossible task. Every step he took towards that goal was almost immediately kicked away as he sidestepped his own PR machine, to rant about whatever situation he had just cocked up, on twitter.

He may have the title and the office, but he has never "become" President. Not once has he risen above the role of "living punchline," and he may yet become the first United States President laughed out of office.
 
2017-09-27 08:22:32 AM  

somedude210: speaking of Russian money, there's more news in regards to Russia and Facebook. Seems Zuckerberg knew of Russian bots as early as 2015


Is he still thinking about running for president? Because so far I'm really digging the "up-his-own-ass billionaire forces himself upon you" vibe we've got going in the US, and Zucch is young and tech-savvy to boot!

/Barfs, films it, posts it to Faceblork
 
d23 [BareFark]
2017-09-27 08:23:27 AM  

Socrofece: "Legally and politically, we would be in uncharted waters." "If this is what some might say it appears to be, we will wake up in a very different world."


Would that different world be because the two tiered legal system is finally breaking down?

I mean if any one of *us* did anything close to what is alleged then we would be rotting in jail right now and the right-wing knownothings would be having parades celebrating the upcoming death of the traitor.
 
2017-09-27 08:26:05 AM  

born_yesterday: Weaver95: Ambivalence: You could say this about his entire farking presidency, and yet he's still here.

trump seems to have opted for the death of a 1000 cuts.  I've never seen any US president become a lame duck in the first year of their first term.

Looks like someone didn't see his remarks on his tax plan.

It's going to be "tremendous".  Have you ever written a tax bill that was TREMENDOUS?  I didn't think so.

Chessman.


I don't think he has ever even written his name.

What I am saying is Shakespeare he ain't.
 
2017-09-27 08:27:17 AM  
The number of connections among these people has long since passed the coincidence level, IMO. Though I'm mildly perplexed as to why tfa put "oligarchs" in scare quotes.
 
2017-09-27 08:28:24 AM  

Weaver95: fusillade762: Yeah, that's one of the many things he doesn't seem to get. Every time he threatens to annihilate NK and then does nothing when they provoke him again he looks weak. I guess he's so used to getting his way by bullying anyone who opposes him he doesn't have a plan for when it doesn't work.


I don't think its even occurred to trump yet that he really CAN'T do anything about North Korea.


Actually, if N Korea is ignored then problem tends to go away.
 
2017-09-27 08:28:37 AM  

vudukungfu: I'm hoping they are building an air tight case that can never be beat.

You can't pardon someone for treason, can you?


You can, actually
 
2017-09-27 08:28:59 AM  
Everybody knows that only native-born Americans can contribute money towards political campaigns, not just any old immigrant citizen!
 
2017-09-27 08:30:05 AM  

Weaver95: Ambivalence: You could say this about his entire farking presidency, and yet he's still here.

trump seems to have opted for the death of a 1000 cuts.  I've never seen any US president become a lame duck in the first year of their first term.


Less than a year. And it's less a lame duck than a wounded poo-monkey.
 
2017-09-27 08:30:55 AM  

Weaver95: Ambivalence: You could say this about his entire farking presidency, and yet he's still here.

trump seems to have opted for the death of a 1000 cuts.  I've never seen any US president become a lame duck in the first year of their first term.


Harrison, technically...
 
d23 [BareFark]
2017-09-27 08:31:33 AM  

SwiftFox: Everybody knows that only native-born Americans can contribute money towards political campaigns, not just any old immigrant citizen!


corporations are people my friend.
 
2017-09-27 08:32:05 AM  
Follow the money.
 
2017-09-27 08:33:28 AM  

Weaver95: every time someone bad touches trump's cash flow, he goes off and does something incredibly stupid.  I wonder what our President will do as Mueller gets closer to the Oval Office?


I don't know.  It's hard to tell what someone will do when the authorities start closing in on you.
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2017-09-27 08:34:59 AM  

somedude210: speaking of Russian money, there's more news in regards to Russia and Facebook. Seems Zuckerberg knew of Russian bots as early as 2015


I wonder how many people who have a problem with football players kneeling support Zuckerberg onn this?
 
2017-09-27 08:35:08 AM  
Follow the Rubles.
 
2017-09-27 08:36:10 AM  
How much did Mexico try to influence the election, based on the sum of contributions to Clinton campaigns from Mexican emigres who have become citizens?
 
2017-09-27 08:36:26 AM  
Those donations began flowing to the Republican National Committee

You don't farking say
 
2017-09-27 08:37:20 AM  
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2017-09-27 08:37:22 AM  
FTFA Unless the contributions were directed by a foreigner, they would be legal

We've got our eye on you, Ian McDonald
 
d23 [BareFark]
2017-09-27 08:38:12 AM  

SwiftFox: How much did Mexico try to influence the election, based on the sum of contributions to Clinton campaigns from Mexican emigres who have become citizens?


SQUIRREL!
 
2017-09-27 08:39:48 AM  

namegoeshere: somedude210: speaking of Russian money, there's more news in regards to Russia and Facebook. Seems Zuckerberg knew of Russian bots as early as 2015

I wonder how many people who have a problem with football players kneeling support Zuckerberg onn this?


I'd like to see Zuckerberg beaten with a sack of doorknobs and then tossed in a lake. Along with every other complicit asshole and apologist.
 
2017-09-27 08:42:27 AM  

The Cat Who Walks By Herself: The number of connections among these people has long since passed the coincidence level, IMO. Though I'm mildly perplexed as to why tfa put "oligarchs" in scare quotes.


Maybe they meant to use (((parentheses)))?
 
2017-09-27 08:44:19 AM  

SwiftFox: How much did Mexico try to influence the election, based on the sum of contributions to Clinton campaigns from Mexican emigres who have become citizens?


Need a cup of coffee? Your racism is pretty blatant this morning.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2017-09-27 08:45:36 AM  
Psylence:
I'd like to see Zuckerberg beaten with a sack of doorknobs and then tossed in a lake. Along with every other complicit asshole and apologist.

What I love (that is hate) about this is that once again it *doesn't* cause any contemplation of the way our election system is working right now and what adjustments need to be made to improve it.  There is still no serious talk of reform or deep thought about how unlimited money flowing into non-informative vehicles like advertisements are affecting the country.  Someone is making a shiatload of money because of Citizen's United and even though constant ad buys that are range from non-informative to outright lies are helping to dumb down the electoral conversation to the level of two hicks fighting over a shopping cart at Wal Mart the whole subject out-of-control money is taboo.  It all goes back to corporate culture taking over the government, and that corporate culture is going to kill the country.  Still... don't talk about it!  Someone is making money!
 
2017-09-27 08:45:41 AM  
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2017-09-27 08:49:42 AM  

d23: Psylence:
I'd like to see Zuckerberg beaten with a sack of doorknobs and then tossed in a lake. Along with every other complicit asshole and apologist.

What I love (that is hate) about this is that once again it *doesn't* cause any contemplation of the way our election system is working right now and what adjustments need to be made to improve it.  There is still no serious talk of reform or deep thought about how unlimited money flowing into non-informative vehicles like advertisements are affecting the country.  Someone is making a shiatload of money because of Citizen's United and even though constant ad buys that are range from non-informative to outright lies are helping to dumb down the electoral conversation to the level of two hicks fighting over a shopping cart at Wal Mart the whole subject out-of-control money is taboo.  It all goes back to corporate culture taking over the government, and that corporate culture is going to kill the country.  Still... don't talk about it!  Someone is making money!


This needs more "smart" votes
 
2017-09-27 08:49:57 AM  
pretty decent thread dissecting this article:

https://twitter.com/aliasvaughn/status/913009785301282816
 
2017-09-27 08:52:34 AM  

thismomentinblackhistory: SwiftFox: How much did Mexico try to influence the election, based on the sum of contributions to Clinton campaigns from Mexican emigres who have become citizens?

Need a cup of coffee? Your racism is pretty blatant this morning.


Whazzat?  You think it's racist to point out, sarcastically, that it's unusual to attribute political contributions from naturalized citizens as illicit influence of their birth countries?  Or are you stipulating that the article is racist for doing so regarding naturalized Russian citizens?
 
2017-09-27 09:00:41 AM  
http://www.thedailybeast.com/zuckerberg-blew-off-warnings-of-russian-t​rolls-in-2015
 
2017-09-27 09:03:15 AM  

The Cat Who Walks By Herself: The number of connections among these people has long since passed the coincidence level, IMO. Though I'm mildly perplexed as to why tfa put "oligarchs" in scare quotes.


There are unverified rumours that Trump may have had someone on his campaign staff that did not have links to Putin.
 
2017-09-27 09:04:05 AM  
So I read TFA.  My take-away is that not only are corporations people, Russian corporations are people as well when it comes to U.S. elections.  Even if you ok with corporations tinkering with our elections, you should very well be adamantly opposed to Russian corporations getting involved in our elections.  This shiat has got to stop.
 
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