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2017-09-26 09:43:34 PM  
I'm a professor of polymer chemistry.

What makes me work hard:  I LIVE for those moments when the light bulb goes on in a student's eyes and they say "Oh, NOW I get it!"  I live for the weird, insightful questions they give me after class that show me they're thinking about what I'm teaching.  I live for sending my undergrads on to their next steps well-prepared for what the world will throw at them.  Basically, I live for the ripple effect.

What makes me face-palm:  Students who do not read their email or their syllabus.  Students who can't figure out how to save a document as a PDF.

What makes me sad: Students who are pursuing a major they hate because they think they have to.  Students who really want to be good at chemistry, but for whatever reason just can't get there no matter how hard they try.

I'm a teacher, guys.  If you meet me halfway and show me you actually give a fark about my class, I will move heaven and earth to help you meet my (justifiably high) expectations.
 
2017-09-26 09:48:51 PM  

UnrepentantApostate: What makes me sad: Students who are pursuing a major they hate because they think they have to.  Students who really want to be good at chemistry, but for whatever reason just can't get there no matter how hard they try.


I teach O-chem. Half my job is telling kids they're not going to be doctors, and that they won't starve to death or be shunned by their family because of that.

/Warm fuzzies happen when they can connect a nucleophile to an electrophile or at least identify the strongest acid and base in a mechanism
 
2017-09-27 12:43:44 AM  
I'm a substitute, so I've seen it all, and might spam this with lots of stories piecemeal. Or not. The thing that keeps me going is so often the students strangely accept me....probably because I really am empathetic and accepting and the students for the most part sense instantly that I am on their side. I'll see who's doing their assignment, give encouragement "keep up the good work", see who needs encouragement to start, see who to ignore/not escalate or tangle with.


My facepalm is when there is profanity addiction in some hardcore girls. Guys seem to be able to turn it off when I use a nonconfrontational and actually sweet "use a better word, please" or "kindly minimize the profanities". I realize it's normalized in the rap they listen to. But after hearing the b-word more than once, I'll give the lines that the b-word is degrading to all women. And it's just the equivalent of an angry 2nd grader's vocabulary if a high school kid has to use the f-word repeatedly.
 
2017-09-27 02:37:22 AM  
 I'm not a teacher but once I got to college I realized that of the good teachers i had just how good they were and how good of an education I received growing up.
I had a lot of teachers tell me that someday they hoped I'd become a teacher.  Most of them followed up with "so you know what it is like having to deal with a student like you."
 
2017-09-27 03:07:54 AM  
16th year high school math here. Why do I love my job?
1) It's dynamic -- gotta think on the fly
2) The looks on the kids faces when something clicks
3) The ones who bust their tails to learn the stuff
4) Trying to sell something nobody wants
5) The thank-you notes students sometimes write

Facepalming? Maybe each "new thing" we need to battle with the kids. Back in the early days it was Block Dude on the TI, but I do admit I spent quite a few hours also on that. Then cell phones. Texting non-stop, then apps. On a positive note the 1024 game was a big hit for a while. Then the stupid apps like "Make it Rain" and the kids looked like hamsters trying to "make it rain". Then the spinners and now it's bluetooth speakers ... not in the classroom but in the hallways. Oh yeah, the bottle flipping thing was in there sometime after "Make it Rain" and before/during spinners. I feel like we have a mass-casualty event of ADD. Last year it was the fidget cubes. Kids can't sit still much anymore. Can't go for five minutes without checking their phone or experimenting with gravity. But I don't think it's just kids. Adults are the same. I'm the same. And it's not all bad. Just sometimes need to be able to focus on one task for more than 60 seconds.
 
2017-09-27 03:52:28 AM  
I owe so much to many outstanding teachers and librarians (the secret mistresses and masters of knowledge).  Had one glowing lady who was a WASP in the war, and traveled extensively immediately thereafter.  I asked her about which aircraft she had piloted and the next day came in with two huge (big to me in seventh grade) photo albums filled to bursting.  You name the U.S. aircraft and she had sat in the pilots seat or in the solo seat.   Such a lovely lady.
 
2017-09-27 04:59:30 AM  

orangehat: I had a lot of teachers tell me that someday they hoped I'd become a teacher.  Most of them followed up with "so you know what it is like having to deal with a student like you."


That's the reason I don't teach. ;)

I had a teacher who told me I'd be back as a teacher someday. Didn't believe him until I started my teacher training. But I already had a job in the private sector. The teaching part didn't hold me back, but there is more to it than the hours you spend in the classroom. And I had a few years of service that wouldn't count towards my wage if I had switched.

My current job at the Ministry of Education is all about helping teachers though.
 
2017-09-27 05:29:00 AM  
I would give anything for our country to treat the public education system like it does the department of defense.  Funding wise, anyway.
 
2017-09-27 07:29:56 AM  

Cpl.D: I would give anything for our country to treat the public education system like it does the department of defense.  Funding wise, anyway.


per intruder on campus drills, they expect us to die for the students for some reason...

So we have that going for us.
 
2017-09-27 07:54:49 AM  

UnrepentantApostate: I'm a professor of polymer chemistry.

What makes me work hard:  I LIVE for those moments when the light bulb goes on in a student's eyes and they say "Oh, NOW I get it!"  I live for the weird, insightful questions they give me after class that show me they're thinking about what I'm teaching.  I live for sending my undergrads on to their next steps well-prepared for what the world will throw at them.  Basically, I live for the ripple effect.

What makes me face-palm:  Students who do not read their email or their syllabus.  Students who can't figure out how to save a document as a PDF.

What makes me sad: Students who are pursuing a major they hate because they think they have to.  Students who really want to be good at chemistry, but for whatever reason just can't get there no matter how hard they try.

I'm a teacher, guys.  If you meet me halfway and show me you actually give a fark about my class, I will move heaven and earth to help you meet my (justifiably high) expectations.


Professor of technical communication, and I can't say it any better than this. [Fist bump]
 
2017-09-27 08:04:49 AM  

Cpl.D: I would give anything for our country to treat the public education system like it does the department of defense.  Funding wise, anyway.


Federal, State and Local Spending on Education $3 trillion +/- (2014).

Johnny still can't read.  Not Johnny's fault.
 
2017-09-27 08:20:31 AM  

thehobbes: Cpl.D: I would give anything for our country to treat the public education system like it does the department of defense.  Funding wise, anyway.

per intruder on campus drills, they expect us to die for the students for some reason...

So we have that going for us.


And just like soldiers, you'll have to buy your own body armor.
 
2017-09-27 08:25:36 AM  
My mom was a high school math teacher for around 20 years. It's a shiat job, pay sucks, work at home every night, kids suck, parents suck worse, administrators are awful, politics gets in the way, and now you have to buy your own paper.

To those who do it, thank you.
 
2017-09-27 08:48:53 AM  

Great_Milenko: thehobbes: Cpl.D: I would give anything for our country to treat the public education system like it does the department of defense.  Funding wise, anyway.

per intruder on campus drills, they expect us to die for the students for some reason...

So we have that going for us.

And just like soldiers, you'll have to buy your own body armor.


That's cute. You don't think most teachers pray for the release of death...

I kid of course, you have some classes that make you wonder how teenagers/undergrads remember to breathe, others amaze you how quickly they adapt.

I have a bit of both this year.
 
2017-09-27 08:56:23 AM  
No profession gets a fellating more than teachers or firefighters. In truth, the vast majority are worthless, and the good ones burn out after a few years and settle into an easy job with excellent benefits and a pension.  In most places they are paid well above median average income for the area.  I'm quite envious.
 
2017-09-27 09:08:54 AM  

Subtonic: No profession gets a fellating more than teachers or firefighters. In truth, the vast majority are worthless, and the good ones burn out after a few years and settle into an easy job with excellent benefits and a pension.  In most places they are paid well above median average income for the area.  I'm quite envious.


There is a current shortage, so feel free to take the time to get certified and come reap that sweet sweet college/high school money train. There's no physical requirement and per Fark experts the certification testing is simple.

I think the only people who can't become teachers are felons and sex offenders, so you have no excuse not to jump on the gravy train....
 
2017-09-27 09:20:48 AM  

Cpl.D: I would give anything for our country to treat the public education system like it does the department of defense.  Funding wise, anyway.


You want to be overworked and underfunded?
 
2017-09-27 09:39:12 AM  

thehobbes: Subtonic: No profession gets a fellating more than teachers or firefighters. In truth, the vast majority are worthless, and the good ones burn out after a few years and settle into an easy job with excellent benefits and a pension.  In most places they are paid well above median average income for the area.  I'm quite envious.

There is a current shortage, so feel free to take the time to get certified and come reap that sweet sweet college/high school money train. There's no physical requirement and per Fark experts the certification testing is simple.

I think the only people who can't become teachers are felons and sex offenders, so you have no excuse not to jump on the gravy train....


Cool, I had the charges dismissed so I'll get right on that.
 
2017-09-27 09:47:42 AM  

Subtonic: No profession gets a fellating more than teachers or firefighters. In truth, the vast majority are worthless, and the good ones burn out after a few years and settle into an easy job with excellent benefits and a pension.  In most places they are paid well above median average income for the area.  I'm quite envious.


I can understand people with hateboners against teachers because whatever whatever happened when you were little and underachieving. Or because being Republican and you hate when someone describes something not Foxnewsworthy. But firefighters? Lazy? Should there BE fires 24/7 so that firefighters aren't lazy when Thank You God there are no fires?
 
2017-09-27 10:14:17 AM  

Kevin72: Subtonic: No profession gets a fellating more than teachers or firefighters. In truth, the vast majority are worthless, and the good ones burn out after a few years and settle into an easy job with excellent benefits and a pension.  In most places they are paid well above median average income for the area.  I'm quite envious.

I can understand people with hateboners against teachers because whatever whatever happened when you were little and underachieving. Or because being Republican and you hate when someone describes something not Foxnewsworthy. But firefighters? Lazy? Should there BE fires 24/7 so that firefighters aren't lazy when Thank You God there are no fires?



I was comparing the hero worship for teachers to that for first responders. In the case of teachers it is generally undeserved.  The rest of my rant was aimed in total at glorified babysitters.
 
2017-09-27 11:00:47 AM  
It sounds cheesy, but I'm truly thankful for the good teachers I had when younger.

Good on those of you who give a damn and do the job well.  It matters.
 
2017-09-27 11:43:11 AM  
"Fark wants to make the World a better place."

No. Fark just wants to watch the world burn.
 
2017-09-27 12:09:59 PM  
"Getting an education was a bit like a communicable sexual disease. It made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and then you had the urge to pass it on." - Pterry
 
2017-09-27 12:12:18 PM  

Subtonic: Kevin72: Subtonic: No profession gets a fellating more than teachers or firefighters. In truth, the vast majority are worthless, and the good ones burn out after a few years and settle into an easy job with excellent benefits and a pension.  In most places they are paid well above median average income for the area.  I'm quite envious.

I can understand people with hateboners against teachers because whatever whatever happened when you were little and underachieving. Or because being Republican and you hate when someone describes something not Foxnewsworthy. But firefighters? Lazy? Should there BE fires 24/7 so that firefighters aren't lazy when Thank You God there are no fires?


I was comparing the hero worship for teachers to that for first responders. In the case of teachers it is generally undeserved.  The rest of my rant was aimed in total at glorified babysitters.


We'll just leave it at you are envious of professions where it is well known that they contribute greatly to society, and that you are in some thankless profession where nobody knows what if anything you contribute, and let your perception that teachers are only "glorified babysitters" stand as how teachers were able to contribute to YOU.
 
2017-09-27 12:22:30 PM  
CSB time. 8th grade math, good school and good class.

Everyone has left but a regular black guy and a girl on the track team.

At the door, the guy says to the girl still at her desk "Suck my balls!!!"

The girl gives me a look of "Do something about that!".

In my sweetest informative voice I say "That's called teabagging".

The guy almost died of laughter. If he had died, I guess it might have been manslaughter.

The girl's expression changed to "What? That is so much not helping".
 
2017-09-27 12:38:46 PM  

Kevin72: CSB time. 8th grade math, good school and good class.

Everyone has left but a regular black guy and a girl on the track team.

At the door, the guy says to the girl still at her desk "Suck my balls!!!"

The girl gives me a look of "Do something about that!".

In my sweetest informative voice I say "That's called teabagging".

The guy almost died of laughter. If he had died, I guess it might have been manslaughter.

The girl's expression changed to "What? That is so much not helping".


were you a student or teacher?
what's a "regular" black guy?
what happened after that?
 
2017-09-27 03:06:15 PM  

johnny_vegas: Kevin72: CSB time. 8th grade math, good school and good class.

Everyone has left but a regular black guy and a girl on the track team.

At the door, the guy says to the girl still at her desk "Suck my balls!!!"

The girl gives me a look of "Do something about that!".

In my sweetest informative voice I say "That's called teabagging".

The guy almost died of laughter. If he had died, I guess it might have been manslaughter.

The girl's expression changed to "What? That is so much not helping".

were you a student or teacher?
what's a "regular" black guy?
what happened after that?


He fixed the cable
 
2017-09-27 10:51:04 PM  

johnny_vegas: Kevin72: CSB time. 8th grade math, good school and good class.

Everyone has left but a regular black guy and a girl on the track team.

At the door, the guy says to the girl still at her desk "Suck my balls!!!"

The girl gives me a look of "Do something about that!".

In my sweetest informative voice I say "That's called teabagging".

The guy almost died of laughter. If he had died, I guess it might have been manslaughter.

The girl's expression changed to "What? That is so much not helping".

were you a student or teacher?
what's a "regular" black guy?
what happened after that?


1. As mentioned above, I'm a substitute teacher.
2. Regular 8th grade guy is regular.
3. The guy didn't die. He went on to his next class. The girl was ok, she could see that there really wasn't anything I could have done, and went to her next class. If anyone is thinking shoulda shoulda, I guarantee you wouldn't last a month substituting for middle school.
 
2017-09-27 10:59:25 PM  

Kevin72: johnny_vegas: Kevin72: CSB time. 8th grade math, good school and good class.

Everyone has left but a regular black guy and a girl on the track team.

At the door, the guy says to the girl still at her desk "Suck my balls!!!"

The girl gives me a look of "Do something about that!".

In my sweetest informative voice I say "That's called teabagging".

The guy almost died of laughter. If he had died, I guess it might have been manslaughter.

The girl's expression changed to "What? That is so much not helping".

were you a student or teacher?
what's a "regular" black guy?
what happened after that?

1. As mentioned above, I'm a substitute teacher.
2. Regular 8th grade guy is regular.
3. The guy didn't die. He went on to his next class. The girl was ok, she could see that there really wasn't anything I could have done, and went to her next class. If anyone is thinking shoulda shoulda, I guarantee you wouldn't last a month substituting for middle school.


Sorry I find your response to that situation unacceptable.  Were you trying to come across as a cool teacher to the "regular" black guy while ignoring a female students plea for help?
 
2017-09-27 11:10:01 PM  
I had a graduating student one year write a spoken word piece about how much he hated math, how it was a crushing blow for him, and how miserable the experience was.  When he graduated he framed it for me.  I've had my share of students come back and tell me that they were inspired to become whatever math or science professional because of my classes, but having a student who was fully traumatized come back to thank me for the support was one of the best moments in my career so far.  That and the physics class that bought me a bottle of 12 year old whisky...

Facepalm moments are whenever random folks who think they are experts in education because they went to school just like the rest of us try to push public policy regarding education one way or another because darn it, education would work so much better if they could just make all those idiot professionals do things the 'right' way.
 
2017-09-28 02:27:17 AM  
teacher myself, but this is about my teachers. in h.s. i was a "smart kid" and didn't need much teaching, i just sort of sopped up what I was interested in, but in college/grad school the best ones were the ones who gave me value for money, had a class plan that filled the period. so h/t to you, professors haag, penella, daye, and a few others.
 
2017-09-28 08:43:11 AM  
foxy_canuck:

Facepalm moments are whenever random folks who think they are experts in education because they went to school just like the rest of us try to push public policy regarding education one way or another because darn it, education would work so much better if they could just make all those idiot professionals do things the 'right' way.

That's great.

BTW, we need you to take two of your EDOs and prep sub plans so that you can come into division office.  Our Hoshin has been reviewing Best Practice, and we've put together a Power Point on collaboration.  We're really pushing for accountability here now, so you'll need to show how your year plans account for full differentiation for all of your students, and make sure you include a full summary of your formative and summative assessments on the cloud.
 
2017-09-28 10:04:56 AM  

johnny_vegas: Kevin72: johnny_vegas: Kevin72: CSB time. 8th grade math, good school and good class.

Everyone has left but a regular black guy and a girl on the track team.

At the door, the guy says to the girl still at her desk "Suck my balls!!!"

The girl gives me a look of "Do something about that!".

In my sweetest informative voice I say "That's called teabagging".

The guy almost died of laughter. If he had died, I guess it might have been manslaughter.

The girl's expression changed to "What? That is so much not helping".

were you a student or teacher?
what's a "regular" black guy?
what happened after that?

1. As mentioned above, I'm a substitute teacher.
2. Regular 8th grade guy is regular.
3. The guy didn't die. He went on to his next class. The girl was ok, she could see that there really wasn't anything I could have done, and went to her next class. If anyone is thinking shoulda shoulda, I guarantee you wouldn't last a month substituting for middle school.

Sorry I find your response to that situation unacceptable.  Were you trying to come across as a cool teacher to the "regular" black guy while ignoring a female students plea for help?


She didn't have a plea for help. She didn't say anything. It was just a look for one second, and it just happened quickly. She didn't melt.
 
2017-09-28 11:36:48 AM  
yep my opinion only, you were the one who was there... just comes across as inappropriate based on your description.
 
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