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(Yahoo)   Head of Puerto Rico's Power Board on when residents could expect service back after Maria left the entire island without power: " it's a good time for dads to buy a glove and ball and change the way you entertain your children..cook on gas stoves"   ( yahoo.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Tropical cyclone, Puerto Rico, Hispaniola, northern Puerto Rico, San Juan, President Donald Trump, Cuba, Governor Ricardo Rossello  
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2017-09-21 01:48:03 PM  
Why didn't he suggest mothers show their children how to prepare the family's favorite desserts on the gas stove? The commoners can't eat cake unless someone bakes it.
 
2017-09-21 01:49:53 PM  
Time for neighbors to band together and raid other neighborhoods for their food, supplies and women
Like back in simpler oldy times. MAGA!
 
2017-09-21 01:59:01 PM  
PR could be a perfect place to be energy independent with solar and the like.
Solar ovens would be helpful, right now.

Good luck, Ricans. I'm pulling for you guys.
 
2017-09-21 02:13:04 PM  
This isn't mine, but I've cooked bread in mine before. It was as good as any oven baked bread I've made.

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Ham:
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BBQ chicken

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Lots of things.

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And when I do, I don't pay a lick for electricity, wood, gas or anything.
Oh! And the other benefit: you can purify water in a solar oven.
 
2017-09-21 02:13:42 PM  

MikeyFuccon: Why didn't he suggest mothers show their children how to prepare the family's favorite desserts on the gas stove? The commoners can't eat cake unless someone bakes it.


REPORTED!
 
2017-09-21 02:29:14 PM  
Refrigeration will be the hardest thing to do without.
 
2017-09-21 02:30:27 PM  
They like Despacito.
 
2017-09-21 02:38:25 PM  
The glove and ball store is currently a half mile offshore and isn't taking MasterCard
 
2017-09-21 02:38:38 PM  
I predict you'll see small scale solar going up everywhere.
 
2017-09-21 02:40:09 PM  
They just need to order a new glove off of Amazon.... oh dammitsomuch.
 
2017-09-21 02:40:43 PM  
Why can't the US power companies just drive down there and help like they did in Florida?
 
2017-09-21 02:42:04 PM  
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2017-09-21 02:43:04 PM  
"Puerto Rico is in a very, very, very tough shape," [Trump] said.

That's...*whips out calculator*...3 Verys worth of damage.

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2017-09-21 02:43:13 PM  

abhorrent1: Why can't the US power companies just drive down there and help like they did in Florida?


The federal government has its hands full with Texas and Florida. Let their own government help them.
 
2017-09-21 02:43:58 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Oh! And the other benefit: you can purify water in a solar oven.


No, you can't.

You can kill bacteria and viruses, but you can't remove poisons or turn brackish or salt water into fresh, potable water.
 
2017-09-21 02:44:16 PM  

MikeyFuccon: Why didn't he suggest mothers show their children how to prepare the family's favorite desserts on the gas stove? The commoners can't eat cake unless someone bakes it.


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/Chuck full of betus goodness...mmmmm, tasty.
 
2017-09-21 02:46:14 PM  

dittybopper: Nadie_AZ: Oh! And the other benefit: you can purify water in a solar oven.

No, you can't.

You can kill bacteria and viruses, but you can't remove poisons or turn brackish or salt water into fresh, potable water.


Perhaps if you set it up as a distiller.  Given then you have distilled water, which has its own problems.
 
2017-09-21 02:46:38 PM  
Solar ovens are a hoax.  They simply cook something elsewhere and shove it in there as if 'magical' sunshine heated it. BS, you cannot fool me, you fools.
 
2017-09-21 02:47:20 PM  

MrBallou: Refrigeration will be the hardest thing to do without.


I'd argue sanitation.  Electricity runs pumps and desal; without power, it's likely that water won't come out of the pipes.  97% of the population in PR is served by the aqueduct system.

I mean, their water is supposed to be atrocious anyway, so maybe they're not out much as far as drinking and cooking.  But not being able to flush a toilet is a bigger deal than many people realize.
 
2017-09-21 02:48:00 PM  
Old article from last year about PR electric power customers said that over half were getting free power or super discount rates, forcing higher costs to those who do pay, and severe non-upgrading or service modernization to the grid... (like undergrounding the lines)!

But hey, super corrupt govt, almost bankrupt, and looking for handouts from the fed! Almost Venz. Socialism levels... Next thing you know, the PR Militias will be forcefully redistributing dry jockey shorts; from those with bunkers to those who went to govt shelters made up of Fema Trailers!
 
2017-09-21 02:48:10 PM  
If I had the money to do so I'd get a boat and head down there with a shipment of gas and generators, and sell them for an insane markup.
 
2017-09-21 02:48:59 PM  
Is brutally blunt directness  a Puerto Rican trait?
 
2017-09-21 02:49:11 PM  

nitropissering: MikeyFuccon: Why didn't he suggest mothers show their children how to prepare the family's favorite desserts on the gas stove? The commoners can't eat cake unless someone bakes it.

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/Chuck full of betus goodness...mmmmm, tasty.


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2017-09-21 02:50:14 PM  
Pretty much what I expected, i doubt the power is coming back on in Puerto Rico with outside help.
 
2017-09-21 02:51:28 PM  

obenchainr: MrBallou: Refrigeration will be the hardest thing to do without.

I'd argue sanitation.  Electricity runs pumps and desal; without power, it's likely that water won't come out of the pipes.  97% of the population in PR is served by the aqueduct system.

I mean, their water is supposed to be atrocious anyway, so maybe they're not out much as far as drinking and cooking.  But not being able to flush a toilet is a bigger deal than many people realize.


Good point.
 
2017-09-21 02:52:07 PM  
I expect the U.S. mainland is about to get a lot more Puerto Ricany in the weeks and months to come.
 
2017-09-21 02:52:19 PM  

obenchainr: MrBallou: Refrigeration will be the hardest thing to do without.

I'd argue sanitation.  Electricity runs pumps and desal; without power, it's likely that water won't come out of the pipes.  97% of the population in PR is served by the aqueduct system.

I mean, their water is supposed to be atrocious anyway, so maybe they're not out much as far as drinking and cooking.  But not being able to flush a toilet is a bigger deal than many people realize.


They just got 3 feet of rain. There's plenty of toilet flushing water around. I'm thinking no AC plus the tendency of people to under prepare is going to leave them pretty well boned when it comes to drinking water.
 
2017-09-21 02:52:38 PM  

Jim.Casy: If I had the money to do so I'd get a boat and head down there with a shipment of gas and generators, and sell them for an insane markup.


Anyone wealthy enough to pay your price probably left. More likely you'd be murdered and have all of your generators taken.
 
2017-09-21 02:53:36 PM  

Bowen: abhorrent1: Why can't the US power companies just drive down there and help like they did in Florida?

The federal government has its hands full with Texas and Florida. Let their own government help them.


This is like when the article quotes woman and notes that she's an "American" who's lived on the island for X amount of years.  As if Puerto Ricans aren't all American.  (Although they do insist on their own Olympic team, so maybe.....)
 
2017-09-21 02:54:24 PM  

dittybopper: Nadie_AZ: Oh! And the other benefit: you can purify water in a solar oven.

No, you can't.

You can kill bacteria and viruses, but you can't remove poisons or turn brackish or salt water into fresh, potable water.


I admit I don't know if it can help with salt or brackish water. Here's some info about it and its usage worldwide. It can certainly help.
 
2017-09-21 02:54:58 PM  

Bowen: abhorrent1: Why can't the US power companies just drive down there and help like they did in Florida?

The federal government has its hands full with Texas and Florida. Let their own government help them.


You jest, but I'll say it again.

No one in the Caribbean region should expect help of any sort from this administration.  No one.
 
2017-09-21 02:55:13 PM  

DrewCurtisJr: I expect the U.S. mainland is about to get a lot more Puerto Ricany in the weeks and months to come.


That's offensive...the proper term is Puerto Ricanical.  Puerto Ricanesque is also accepted, but that's pushing it.
 
2017-09-21 02:57:28 PM  

abhorrent1: Why can't the US power companies just drive down there and help like they did in Florida?


Because the damn bridge washed out.
 
2017-09-21 02:58:21 PM  

FLMountainMan: Bowen: abhorrent1: Why can't the US power companies just drive down there and help like they did in Florida?

The federal government has its hands full with Texas and Florida. Let their own government help them.

This is like when the article quotes woman and notes that she's an "American" who's lived on the island for X amount of years.  As if Puerto Ricans aren't all American.  (Although they do insist on their own Olympic team, so maybe.....)


Oh lord, yeah - look at that.

"This was absolutely the worst experience we've had with a hurricane," Kim Neis, an American who has lived on the island for 30 years, told AFP.

My memory is crappy, but I can't recall many stories coming out of Houston featuring a quote from "Mark, an American who has lived in, uhhh, America for 30 years."
 
2017-09-21 02:58:42 PM  

Clutch2013: Bowen: abhorrent1: Why can't the US power companies just drive down there and help like they did in Florida?

The federal government has its hands full with Texas and Florida. Let their own government help them.

You jest, but I'll say it again.

No one in the Caribbean region should expect help of any sort from this administration.  No one.


Why is that?
 
2017-09-21 02:59:18 PM  

dittybopper: Nadie_AZ: Oh! And the other benefit: you can purify water in a solar oven.

No, you can't.

You can kill bacteria and viruses, but you can't remove poisons or turn brackish or salt water into fresh, potable water.


Point of order, you *can* turn salt or brackish water to fresh with the right equipment (a clean bowl and a lid that fits your water pot when the lid is inverted).

Solar distillation is a thing, but it isn't very fast (low specific output) unless you have a huge facility at which point it still isn't fast - you're just increasing scale.
 
2017-09-21 02:59:31 PM  

Nadie_AZ: PR could be a perfect place to be energy independent with solar and the like.
Solar ovens would be helpful, right now.

Good luck, Ricans. I'm pulling for you guys.


I don't want to sound like an thoughttless and insensitive jerk, but now is the time to think about long range planning like that, since most of the electrical system is about to get rooted up in the next year or so.   Some renewables might go a long way.  On my last trip I saw a lot of solar water heaters, but not a lot of PV.
 
2017-09-21 03:00:30 PM  

Nadie_AZ: dittybopper: Nadie_AZ: Oh! And the other benefit: you can purify water in a solar oven.

No, you can't.

You can kill bacteria and viruses, but you can't remove poisons or turn brackish or salt water into fresh, potable water.

I admit I don't know if it can help with salt or brackish water. Here's some info about it and its usage worldwide. It can certainly help.


To help with salt or brackish water, and to remove toxins like heavy metals and the like, you have to actually distill water.

It's possible to do that with the sun using a solar still, which is a pretty damned simple thing to make, but I don't think a solar oven could be used as one without a bunch of modifications.
 
2017-09-21 03:00:53 PM  

Clutch2013: Bowen: abhorrent1: Why can't the US power companies just drive down there and help like they did in Florida?

The federal government has its hands full with Texas and Florida. Let their own government help them.

You jest, but I'll say it again.

No one in the Caribbean region should expect help of any sort from this administration.  No one.


Trump already opened it up for fed assistance.  However, solar ovens are indeed a hoax.
 
2017-09-21 03:04:10 PM  

dittybopper: Nadie_AZ: Oh! And the other benefit: you can purify water in a solar oven.

No, you can't.

You can kill bacteria and viruses, but you can't remove poisons or turn brackish or salt water into fresh, potable water.


Depends on how hot you get it.   hot enough to become steam and then a rig to condense it back to water and yu have distilled water...pure as it comes
 
2017-09-21 03:05:34 PM  

abhorrent1: Clutch2013: Bowen: abhorrent1: Why can't the US power companies just drive down there and help like they did in Florida?

The federal government has its hands full with Texas and Florida. Let their own government help them.

You jest, but I'll say it again.

No one in the Caribbean region should expect help of any sort from this administration.  No one.

Why is that?


Charlottesville wasn't a clue?
 
2017-09-21 03:06:05 PM  
Might I recommend inviting the neighbors over for dinner? >.>

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2017-09-21 03:06:07 PM  

fireclown: Nadie_AZ: PR could be a perfect place to be energy independent with solar and the like.
Solar ovens would be helpful, right now.

Good luck, Ricans. I'm pulling for you guys.

I don't want to sound like an thoughttless and insensitive jerk, but now is the time to think about long range planning like that, since most of the electrical system is about to get rooted up in the next year or so.   Some renewables might go a long way.  On my last trip I saw a lot of solar water heaters, but not a lot of PV.


It would be a cool thing to do.  I'm not in favor of solar farms (especially on a land-scarce island like Puerto Rico), but rooftop PV, widely distributed, would be a cool thing.
 
2017-09-21 03:06:07 PM  

Bowen: .


Well, the other aspect is that waste treatment is *also* non-functional without power.  So, any sewer or septic system is going to get overloaded quickly, meaning that all that (likely already-contaminated) water is going to get even more so as waste escapes out.

No matter how one looks at it, third-world-style disease outbreaks are likely to happen.
 
2017-09-21 03:06:32 PM  

Subtonic: Clutch2013: Bowen: abhorrent1: Why can't the US power companies just drive down there and help like they did in Florida?

The federal government has its hands full with Texas and Florida. Let their own government help them.

You jest, but I'll say it again.

No one in the Caribbean region should expect help of any sort from this administration.  No one.

Trump already opened it up for fed assistance.  However, solar ovens are indeed a hoax.


I'm not getting this meme.  What am I missing?  Solar overs are slow and inconvenient, but I've eaten food from them.
 
2017-09-21 03:06:54 PM  

Subtonic: Clutch2013: Bowen: abhorrent1: Why can't the US power companies just drive down there and help like they did in Florida?

The federal government has its hands full with Texas and Florida. Let their own government help them.

You jest, but I'll say it again.

No one in the Caribbean region should expect help of any sort from this administration.  No one.

Trump already opened it up for fed assistance.  However, solar ovens are indeed a hoax.


Trump, or Congress?  Because I can believe the latter would.
 
2017-09-21 03:07:52 PM  

FLMountainMan: fireclown: Nadie_AZ: PR could be a perfect place to be energy independent with solar and the like.
Solar ovens would be helpful, right now.

Good luck, Ricans. I'm pulling for you guys.

I don't want to sound like an thoughttless and insensitive jerk, but now is the time to think about long range planning like that, since most of the electrical system is about to get rooted up in the next year or so.   Some renewables might go a long way.  On my last trip I saw a lot of solar water heaters, but not a lot of PV.

It would be a cool thing to do.  I'm not in favor of solar farms (especially on a land-scarce island like Puerto Rico), but rooftop PV, widely distributed, would be a cool thing.


They also have ocean, which means steady wind.  Although beautiful views are one of their prime products.  PR really is beautiful.
 
2017-09-21 03:08:35 PM  
fireclown
I don't want to sound like an thoughttless and insensitive jerk, but now is the time to think about long range planning like that, since most of the electrical system is about to get rooted up in the next year or so. Some renewables might go a long way. On my last trip I saw a lot of solar water heaters, but not a lot of PV.

I agree that a good look into the infrastructure might be in order, the problem is after a major catastrophe is never a good time to bring it up.... maybe April a few months of planning before the next one.
 
2017-09-21 03:10:31 PM  
Headline was a diss on video games. Apparently that flew over Fark's collective head.
 
2017-09-21 03:10:44 PM  

Clutch2013: abhorrent1: Clutch2013: Bowen: abhorrent1: Why can't the US power companies just drive down there and help like they did in Florida?

The federal government has its hands full with Texas and Florida. Let their own government help them.

You jest, but I'll say it again.

No one in the Caribbean region should expect help of any sort from this administration.  No one.

Why is that?

Charlottesville wasn't a clue?


Trump already signed the emergency declaration for Puerto Rico so they can get FEMA assistance.
Not sure if FEMA is a big help but the federal funds to help them have been approved already.
 
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