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(Iceland Review)   Iceland customs officials seize nearly 200 shipments of Melatonin, classified as an illegal drug there. Because no one needs naturally-occurring sleep inducing supplements in a country where it's 24/7 daylight for almost 6 months in a row   ( icelandreview.com) divider line
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2017-09-20 10:16:50 PM  
4.932 websites that offered such products were closed

How do you have .932 of a website?
 
2017-09-20 10:57:08 PM  
I read it as melanin at first and figured it was because they are basically clear-white.
 
2017-09-20 11:23:20 PM  
Well, this is probably because if people don't have melatonin, they won't be able to sleep. And so then they'll stay up and make mixed drinks, with lots of, you guessed it, ice - their one product. That's right, without the sale of ice, Iceland would devolve into a hellish no-man's landscape of fish and frost-smelling women. They need every edge and so anything that can be considered 'anti-ice' is not allowed.
 
2017-09-21 01:18:47 AM  

MrPoopyPants: I read it as melanin at first and figured it was because they are basically clear-white.


Some are Asian
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Tony Ferrino & Bjork appearance (Steve Coogan - Comic Relief, 1997)
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2017-09-21 01:20:47 AM  

fusillade762: 4.932 websites that offered such products were closed

How do you have .932 of a website?


Some places use dots instead of commas. Crazy bastards.

http://www.statisticalconsultants.co.nz/blog/how-the-world-separates-​i​ts-digits-m.html
 
2017-09-21 01:27:36 AM  
The amount of f#cks I give.
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2017-09-21 01:32:07 AM  
Maybe we can send them unsold copies of Hillary Clinton's book.

If they are looking for sleep aids, that might help.
 
2017-09-21 01:33:56 AM  
It is illegal in more countries because of its harmful side effects and tendency of people to overuse. It can be harmful especially to children since it is after all, a hormone.  For that reason quite a few medical professionals and governments think it should be only available on prescription. Where I live it can be sold only in small doses.

https://vanwinkles.com/the-dark-side-downsides-side-effects-of-melato​n​in
 
2017-09-21 01:33:57 AM  

LewDux: MrPoopyPants: I read it as melanin at first and figured it was because they are basically clear-white.

Some are Asian
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bud, I feel the same way but that's a bit of a collection there.
 
2017-09-21 01:34:14 AM  

LewDux: MrPoopyPants: I read it as melanin at first and figured it was because they are basically clear-white.

Some are Asian
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Bjork is not Asian.  She's a Norse-Irish mix.  Her distinctive looks are the results of centuries of inbreeding.  Icelandic women are particularly open to unprotected sex with foreigners because like everyone else, they want healthy children.
 
2017-09-21 01:34:33 AM  
TFA makes no mention of authorities thinking this melatonin is tainted in any way so I can only conclude that Smokey and the Bandit is not a very popular flick in Iceland. Coors is certainly more dangerous to the public health and Bjork is a gorgeous lady.
 
2017-09-21 01:35:40 AM  
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2017-09-21 01:40:24 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: LewDux: MrPoopyPants: I read it as melanin at first and figured it was because they are basically clear-white.

Some are Asian
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Bjork is not Asian.  She's a Norse-Irish mix.  Her distinctive looks are the results of centuries of inbreeding.  Icelandic women are particularly open to unprotected sex with foreigners because like everyone else, they want healthy children.


I demand citations, hotel suggestions, recommendations for good places to eat, decent car rental places, etc. Most of all I ask forgiveness for taking this notion seriously in service of this lame joke.
 
2017-09-21 01:42:17 AM  
Bjork Takes apart her TV.
Youtube DDvi-GlKdng


This is a fun video to watch, especially since she uses absolutely no safety apparatus when digging around the insides of an old tube TV.  Her descriptions of the internals are what you'd expect.
 
2017-09-21 01:44:17 AM  
So then are tart cherries banned there too?
 
2017-09-21 02:02:40 AM  
Huh. So Iceland severely restricts a product that is widely available in the USA.
I wonder if the reverse is ever true?

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2017-09-21 02:11:22 AM  
I was in a health food store here in the U.S. of A. a few weeks ago and asked where I could get some 7-Keto DHEA; the clerk sneered at me and said "Oh we don't sell hormones here!"... to which I replied: "Oh, is that melatonin I see?" And her only reply was "Touché".
 
2017-09-21 02:11:41 AM  

Krieghund: Huh. So Iceland severely restricts a product that is widely available in the USA.
I wonder if the reverse is ever true?

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Codeine pills (or compounded products containing it) are widely available OTC outside of the U.S., including Canada.

Same with a bunch of other drugs. I have to get an Rx for Retin-A or numerous other drugs including potent class III topical steroids here, but I can drive 20 minutes to Mexico and buy it OTC at any pharmacy.
 
2017-09-21 02:13:43 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Maybe we can send them unsold copies of Hillary Clinton's book.

If they are looking for sleep aids, that might help.


Too bad there aren't any, no one seems to be buying Bernie's book, fairytales always put people to sleep.
 
2017-09-21 02:46:36 AM  
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2017-09-21 02:55:37 AM  
I take melatonin when I travel and have to change time zones, or when I just CAN NOT get to sleep and I need to be well rested the next day (like for a job interview). I have noticed though that if I take it more than 2 nights in a row, I have trouble sleeping the third night, so I only take it when I REALLY need it. Hubby doesn't take it at all cause it puts him out for 12 hours and leaves him groggy for another 12-18 hours. So it isn't entirely harm free, but is beats the Ambien Walrus.
 
2017-09-21 02:57:40 AM  
Why wold they need drugs? They could just have some fermented rotten shark carcass.
 
2017-09-21 03:01:58 AM  
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2017-09-21 03:07:35 AM  

bikkurikun: It is illegal in more countries because of its harmful side effects and tendency of people to overuse. It can be harmful especially to children since it is after all, a hormone.  For that reason quite a few medical professionals and governments think it should be only available on prescription. Where I live it can be sold only in small doses.

https://vanwinkles.com/the-dark-side-downsides-side-effects-of-melaton​in


With all due respect, that's retarded. It has no side effects other than making you sleepy, which, considering it's a sleep drug, is not a side effect. From your article:
Given the lack of apparent side effects, it may seem harmless to label melatonin as a dietary supplement...there's no evidence that too much melatonin could be fatal, or even remotely life-threatening...

And with all due respect again, what's the source of that article? "Van Winkles"? What's this bit at the bottom?
Published by Casper
And what is Casper? Ah... A mattress dealer.
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GTFO...

Anyhoo, melatonin is utterly safe, to the point where there is no known lethal dosage, even after giving subjects literal kilograms of it:
In animals, an LD50 (lethal dose for 50% of the subjects) could not be established. Even 800 mg/kg bodyweight (high dose) was not lethal.
Given an average body weight of 80kg, that's 64 kilograms of melatonin... And still not lethal. For the mere 1-10 milligrams people take, it's down in the homeopathic "let's dilute this water with water" range. You could take a whole bottle with no adverse effects.

But that said, it actually does work really well for dealing with jet lag or short term insomnia.
 
2017-09-21 03:11:21 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: LewDux: MrPoopyPants: I read it as melanin at first and figured it was because they are basically clear-white.

Some are Asian
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Bjork is not Asian.  She's a Norse-Irish mix.  Her distinctive looks are the results of centuries of inbreeding.  Icelandic women are particularly open to unprotected sex with foreigners because like everyone else, they want healthy children. Perfect Goddess incarnate


FTFY
 
2017-09-21 03:23:24 AM  

Theaetetus: Even 800 mg/kg bodyweight (high dose) was not lethal.
Given an average body weight of 80kg, that's 64 kilograms of melatonin...


Check yer maths, bub.

/point taken nonetheless
 
2017-09-21 03:27:16 AM  
Aside: I am currently taking 10mg melatonin; I normally take 5, but grabbed the wrong damned bottle.

At any rate, I sleep during the day (third shift, y'all) and haven't yet blacked out the room.
 
2017-09-21 03:31:59 AM  

King Something: Why wold they need drugs? They could just have some fermented rotten shark carcass.


I'm thinking most people take it as a sleep aid, not a purgative.
 
2017-09-21 03:52:36 AM  
"Melatonin is a natural hormone"
Like that is an argument for anything. Dopamine is a natural hormone, and if you could get it distilled for consumption it would probably be dangerous and illegal as fark.
And the production safety of "natural remidies" in the US is non-existent, as the rest of the world is well aware of. Which is why dietary supplements from the US is illegal to sell in almost all countries in the world (except of course from the US)
Melatonin should only be taken on the advice of a doctor, and should be bought from registered pharmacies. Of course it should be stopped in customs. Its "medicine" hawked by untrained snake-oil salesmen. Don't buy your medicine on the farking internet you idiots.
 
2017-09-21 03:57:45 AM  
6+ mg/night every night for at least 10 years, no problems except inescapable sense of suffocating lethargy.  Could also be due to exposure to avian Fark flu (vector = any post by goose or falcon).
 
2017-09-21 04:09:45 AM  

Theaetetus: bikkurikun: It is illegal in more countries because of its harmful side effects and tendency of people to overuse. It can be harmful especially to children since it is after all, a hormone.  For that reason quite a few medical professionals and governments think it should be only available on prescription. Where I live it can be sold only in small doses.

https://vanwinkles.com/the-dark-side-downsides-side-effects-of-melaton​in

With all due respect, that's retarded. It has no side effects other than making you sleepy, which, considering it's a sleep drug, is not a side effect. From your article:
Given the lack of apparent side effects, it may seem harmless to label melatonin as a dietary supplement...there's no evidence that too much melatonin could be fatal, or even remotely life-threatening...

And with all due respect again, what's the source of that article? "Van Winkles"? What's this bit at the bottom?
Published by Casper
And what is Casper? Ah... A mattress dealer.
[img.fark.net image 178x100]
GTFO...

Anyhoo, melatonin is utterly safe, to the point where there is no known lethal dosage, even after giving subjects literal kilograms of it:
In animals, an LD50 (lethal dose for 50% of the subjects) could not be established. Even 800 mg/kg bodyweight (high dose) was not lethal.
Given an average body weight of 80kg, that's 64 kilograms of melatonin... And still not lethal. For the mere 1-10 milligrams people take, it's down in the homeopathic "let's dilute this water with water" range. You could take a whole bottle with no adverse effects.

But that said, it actually does work really well for dealing with jet lag or short term insomnia.

And I trust you have a Phd in pharmacology? It was 0730 in the morning here and just gave the first link that came up. Google a bit and you'll find plenty more.  

Fact of the matter is, there are health concerns associated with melatonin for certain groups and in case of prolonged use, and because of that a number of countries don't think it is wise to have it available OTC.  

An occasional dose should be no problem for anyone, but extended use of heavy doses brings risks with it for certain groups of people, and therefore might better be administered by a MD.

To be clear, I am not in favor of having it restricted, I like my melatonin during travel, just pointing out why some countries do it; it is of course a more general point of discussion what should be available OTC and what not.
 
2017-09-21 05:22:06 AM  
Eh, you don't need it. I live here in Iceland and I trained myself to sleep with the blinds open. The light didn't keep me awake.

And besides, it's more like 4 months of 24/7 light, at least in the north. Three in the south.
 
2017-09-21 06:51:26 AM  

SoupGuru: fusillade762: 4.932 websites that offered such products were closed

How do you have .932 of a website?

Some places use dots instead of commas. Crazy bastards.


I learned that last week when we booked a trip there. Was figuring everything in pennies until the charges hit the card.
 
2017-09-21 07:08:39 AM  
Pretty sure Iceland can handle 200 black people
 
2017-09-21 07:18:05 AM  

thespindrifter: I was in a health food store here in the U.S. of A. a few weeks ago and asked where I could get some 7-Keto DHEA; the clerk sneered at me and said "Oh we don't sell hormones here!"... to which I replied: "Oh, is that melatonin I see?" And her only reply was "Touché".


If you were really "healthy", you wouldn't need to visit a Health Food Store to pick up vitamins and hormones. Or do we just buy our peace of mind now, like the ads tell us to do? Because we sure aren't any healthier.
 
2017-09-21 07:19:20 AM  

NotARocketScientist: I take melatonin when I travel and have to change time zones, or when I just CAN NOT get to sleep and I need to be well rested the next day (like for a job interview). I have noticed though that if I take it more than 2 nights in a row, I have trouble sleeping the third night, so I only take it when I REALLY need it. Hubby doesn't take it at all cause it puts him out for 12 hours and leaves him groggy for another 12-18 hours. So it isn't entirely harm free, but is beats the Ambien Walrus.


I've always had trouble sleeping, I just can't let the day go in my mind.  I used to drink heavily to knock myself out and that is not a good idea.  I also wanted to avoid Ambien Walrus so I've been taking Melatonin.  It works very well and after a year I have not noticed any side effects.
 
2017-09-21 08:14:07 AM  
These are the same people who refused to bail out their banks.  And at some point recently (not verified) allowed stormfront an islandic domain.  Must be the fish.
 
2017-09-21 08:16:56 AM  
Ive found melatonin to make me very groggy the next day and irritable. It will utterly ruin my ability to sleep after taking it for a few nights, so i stopped taking it long ago.  It can be great and less harmful than other sleep meds, but it is horrible to see it advertised as some sort of freebie sleep cure-all
 
2017-09-21 08:27:35 AM  
Most people are stupid and wasteful about it and think more dose = more effective.
 
2017-09-21 09:00:19 AM  
One doctor told me that taking melatonin regularly could cause your body to stop producing enough of it, effectively making you dependent on it.  My wife (who is a doctor) told me that's something some people claim, but is unproven - there haven't been studies conducted on long-term melatonin use.
 
2017-09-21 09:04:46 AM  
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2017-09-21 09:04:54 AM  

bikkurikun: Theaetetus: bikkurikun: It is illegal in more countries because of its harmful side effects and tendency of people to overuse. It can be harmful especially to children since it is after all, a hormone.  For that reason quite a few medical professionals and governments think it should be only available on prescription. Where I live it can be sold only in small doses.

https://vanwinkles.com/the-dark-side-downsides-side-effects-of-melaton​in

With all due respect, that's retarded. It has no side effects other than making you sleepy, which, considering it's a sleep drug, is not a side effect. From your article:
Given the lack of apparent side effects, it may seem harmless to label melatonin as a dietary supplement...there's no evidence that too much melatonin could be fatal, or even remotely life-threatening...

And with all due respect again, what's the source of that article? "Van Winkles"? What's this bit at the bottom?
Published by Casper
And what is Casper? Ah... A mattress dealer.
[img.fark.net image 178x100]
GTFO...

Anyhoo, melatonin is utterly safe, to the point where there is no known lethal dosage, even after giving subjects literal kilograms of it:
In animals, an LD50 (lethal dose for 50% of the subjects) could not be established. Even 800 mg/kg bodyweight (high dose) was not lethal.
Given an average body weight of 80kg, that's 64 kilograms of melatonin... And still not lethal. For the mere 1-10 milligrams people take, it's down in the homeopathic "let's dilute this water with water" range. You could take a whole bottle with no adverse effects.

But that said, it actually does work really well for dealing with jet lag or short term insomnia.
And I trust you have a Phd in pharmacology? It was 0730 in the morning here and just gave the first link that came up. Google a bit and you'll find plenty more.  

Fact of the matter is, there are health concerns associated with melatonin for certain groups and in case of prolonged use, and because of that a number of countries don't think it is wise to have it available OTC.  

An occasional dose should be no problem for anyone, but extended use of heavy doses brings risks with it for certain groups of people, and therefore might better be administered by a MD.

To be clear, I am not in favor of having it restricted, I like my melatonin during travel, just pointing out why some countries do it; it is of course a more general point of discussion what should be available OTC and what not.


Don't use google for sources. The only anti-melatonin sources are scaremongering mommy-blogs. Use Pubmed for actual peer-reviewed sources.

Melatonin IS safe, thoroughly studied, and a hell of a lot safer than other OTC drugs such as ibuprofen.
 
2017-09-21 09:05:20 AM  

Theaetetus: bikkurikun: It is illegal in more countries because of its harmful side effects and tendency of people to overuse. It can be harmful especially to children since it is after all, a hormone.  For that reason quite a few medical professionals and governments think it should be only available on prescription. Where I live it can be sold only in small doses.

https://vanwinkles.com/the-dark-side-downsides-side-effects-of-melaton​in

With all due respect, that's retarded. It has no side effects other than making you sleepy, which, considering it's a sleep drug, is not a side effect. From your article:
Given the lack of apparent side effects, it may seem harmless to label melatonin as a dietary supplement...there's no evidence that too much melatonin could be fatal, or even remotely life-threatening...

And with all due respect again, what's the source of that article? "Van Winkles"? What's this bit at the bottom?
Published by Casper
And what is Casper? Ah... A mattress dealer.
[img.fark.net image 178x100]
GTFO...

Anyhoo, melatonin is utterly safe, to the point where there is no known lethal dosage, even after giving subjects literal kilograms of it:
In animals, an LD50 (lethal dose for 50% of the subjects) could not be established. Even 800 mg/kg bodyweight (high dose) was not lethal.
Given an average body weight of 80kg, that's 64 kilograms of melatonin... And still not lethal. For the mere 1-10 milligrams people take, it's down in the homeopathic "let's dilute this water with water" range. You could take a whole bottle with no adverse effects.

But that said, it actually does work really well for dealing with jet lag or short term insomnia.


It is not harmful - bears excrete it in massive doses before they hibernate - i take 30-40 mg at ten pm and still wake up around 3am and take 10 more. ( occasionally).  It is metabolized through the liver so try not to take when drinking or taking Tylenol.  Otherwise enjoy.
 
2017-09-21 09:07:17 AM  
Oh yeah - light ends the effects and wakes you up.  So if you get up to piss in the middle of the night try to keep the light off or low.
 
2017-09-21 09:13:44 AM  

RottNDude: This is a fun video to watch, especially since she uses absolutely no safety apparatus when digging around the insides of an old tube TV.  Her descriptions of the internals are what you'd expect.


This is my favorite Björk, goes well over ice:
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Björk and Birkir (I prefer the latter, when I can find it) have limited distribution in the US.
 
2017-09-21 09:15:15 AM  

punkwrestler: AverageAmericanGuy: Maybe we can send them unsold copies of Hillary Clinton's book.

If they are looking for sleep aids, that might help.

Too bad there aren't any, no one seems to be buying Bernie's book, fairytales always put people to sleep.


All three copies printed sold?
 
2017-09-21 09:21:16 AM  

Prince George: punkwrestler: AverageAmericanGuy: Maybe we can send them unsold copies of Hillary Clinton's book.

If they are looking for sleep aids, that might help.

Too bad there aren't any, no one seems to be buying Bernie's book, fairytales always put people to sleep.

All three copies printed sold?


She is the top selling author on The NY Times poll and she has sold the most non-fiction hardcover copies than any book in the last five years.

Yet another poll in which she stomped a mudhole in the old empty suit Saint Bernard.
Hillary Clinton's Book Sets Sales Records, Despite Calls For Her To 'Shut Up'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-book-sales-records​_us_59c2aa01e4b063b253176170
 
2017-09-21 09:23:27 AM  
I found you can buy the pure stuff on ebay. $20 worth lasts years. I just dip my finger in it and kinda know what the dose is through experience and having access to a 0.1mg scale.
 
2017-09-21 09:24:06 AM  
my favorite part of iceland..listening to the GPS voice pronouncing the streets.
oh , and the blonde women...but NOT the food.
 
2017-09-21 09:44:57 AM  

punkwrestler: Prince George: punkwrestler: AverageAmericanGuy: Maybe we can send them unsold copies of Hillary Clinton's book.

If they are looking for sleep aids, that might help.

Too bad there aren't any, no one seems to be buying Bernie's book, fairytales always put people to sleep.

All three copies printed sold?

She is the top selling author on The NY Times poll and she has sold the most non-fiction hardcover copies than any book in the last five years.

Yet another poll in which she stomped a mudhole in the old empty suit Saint Bernard.
Hillary Clinton's Book Sets Sales Records, Despite Calls For Her To 'Shut Up'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-book-sales-records​_us_59c2aa01e4b063b253176170


Yeah I googled and saw that. Pretty shocked, not sure why anyone would want to read a collection of all the excuses she's publicly made that I'm sure is still missing the real reasons she lost.

1. Assumed she'd win so she didn't work very hard.
2. Forgot to pander to her moderately racist blue-collar base so they deserted her for Trump.
 
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