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(NPR)   Eight-year-old girl publishes her first peer-reviewed science paper. Here comes the half-pint science   ( npr.org) divider line
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2017-09-20 12:15:48 AM  
Good for her.
 
2017-09-20 12:41:17 AM  
Well done Sophia Spencer and her resourceful mother.  I tip my hat to all the entomologists who responded.  Definitely gives them a better public image than their portrayal in Silence of the Lambs.
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2017-09-20 02:40:26 AM  
Very cool.
 
2017-09-20 05:24:39 AM  
I was informed there would be science.
 
2017-09-20 05:35:24 AM  
Every time I hear about little kids and scientists...

Dinosaurs - Ask Mister Lizard 1/3
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2017-09-20 05:37:12 AM  
Dinosaurs - Ask Mister Lizard 2/3
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2017-09-20 05:37:48 AM  
Dinosaurs - Ask Mister Lizard 3/3
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2017-09-20 05:57:59 AM  
Peer reviewed? I didn't know there were that many 8 year old entomologists.
 
2017-09-20 06:36:21 AM  
www.joblo.com
 
2017-09-20 07:05:28 AM  
www.slate.com
 
2017-09-20 07:25:41 AM  
"Her parents actually wrote it..." in 3... 2... 1...
 
2017-09-20 07:39:20 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: "Her parents actually wrote it..." in 3... 2... 1...


You know how I know you didn't read the article?
 
2017-09-20 07:39:36 AM  
Normal reaction: "Good for her"
Conservative reaction: "Future libtard"
 
2017-09-20 07:43:21 AM  
I know a few entomologists. Good group of people. Weird, because bugs, but fun to hang out with. Regardless, good on the science kid. Keep it up and ignore the bullying.
 
2017-09-20 07:58:25 AM  
Awesome story to start the day with.

Beats the crap out of the "battling 8 year olds" on main page.
 
2017-09-20 08:19:27 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: "Her parents actually wrote it..." in 3... 2... 1...


No, but first author actually wrote.
 
2017-09-20 08:46:37 AM  
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2017-09-20 09:08:04 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: "Her parents actually wrote it..." in 3... 2... 1...


I  doubt it.  People get credited as authors in science papers who did not do the actual writing.  Indeed a whole bunch of them.   Those who collect the data are generally entitled to be listed as an author. This is standard practice.

So don't take "wrote" too literally here.  They don't in science.  Indeed some journals say somewhere that [some people] conceived the study, [some people] collected the data, [some people] analyzed the data, [some people] wrote the paper.
 
2017-09-20 09:10:09 AM  
Four green lights in a row. I'm on a role.

Now to jinx it by saying were are going for five.
 
2017-09-20 09:43:36 AM  
Shakes 9-year-old fist.  (Although I will note that The Journal of the American Medical Society is a top-5 journal by impact factor, and The Annals of the Entomological Society of America is.... not.)

Still, it's freaking awesome she pulled this off.  I love this stuff and actually do a bit on my class on it.  In the case of Emily Rosa, the editor of JAMA knew he was going to get grief for publishing a 9-year-old's 4th grade science fair project, so he sent it to twice the number of reviewers as normal.  The reviewers all came back saying publish it, and the editor later commented to the press that "Age doesn't matter. It's good science that matters, and this is good science"

www.quackwatch.org
 
2017-09-20 09:53:59 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: Four green lights in a row. I'm on a role.

Now to jinx it by saying were are going for five.


What 'role' would that be?
 
2017-09-20 10:34:23 AM  
to write a paper about the role Twitter can serve in promoting women in science.
"After my mom sent the message and showed me all the responses, I was happy," she wrote in her portion of the paper.


Fake BS coupled with delusional BS is *not* how you teach kids.

Multiple studies show there's a significant correlation there which only leads to dependence on instant gratification and cheating.
 
2017-09-20 11:11:03 AM  
Heard this last night on NPR.  It will be nice if she really does follow through on the bugs but I image she is headed in the right direction either way.  Mom, and I would guess dad also, sounds very supportive which is half the battle in getting kids interested in things.

As for the article, yea the bug association social media guy wrote most of it but she did actually write a paragraph or so which is more then I have written in some of the articles I am listed as an author on, do provide lots of data for the authors in general.
 
2017-09-20 11:28:42 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: OtherLittleGuy: "Her parents actually wrote it..." in 3... 2... 1...

I  doubt it.  People get credited as authors in science papers who did not do the actual writing.  Indeed a whole bunch of them.   Those who collect the data are generally entitled to be listed as an author. This is standard practice.

So don't take "wrote" too literally here.  They don't in science.  Indeed some journals say somewhere that [some people] conceived the study, [some people] collected the data, [some people] analyzed the data, [some people] wrote the paper.


And don't forget the legions of anonymous 'without whoms', who only get mentioned in the thanks and never get any other credit.

/resume is full of these
 
2017-09-20 12:12:58 PM  

Cache: Normal reaction: "Good for her"
Conservative reaction: "Future libtard"


Generalize much?
You probably still find it amazing that Hillary lost the election after repeatedly insulting half the population.
 
2017-09-20 12:51:11 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: OtherLittleGuy: "Her parents actually wrote it..." in 3... 2... 1...

I  doubt it.  People get credited as authors in science papers who did not do the actual writing.  Indeed a whole bunch of them.   Those who collect the data are generally entitled to be listed as an author. This is standard practice.

So don't take "wrote" too literally here.  They don't in science.  Indeed some journals say somewhere that [some people] conceived the study, [some people] collected the data, [some people] analyzed the data, [some people] wrote the paper.


My understanding of the 1990s USDA was that the credited authors were responsible for getting the funding.  Anyone else listed were cronies who passed around credit.  Nobody who set foot in the lab was credited with anything.
/this came up in the job interview (at least it sounded like plenty of warning was given)
//presumably those toiling in the lab were fooling themselves
///it wasn't like that in the 1960s, or possibly my grandfather didn't understand the question.
 
2017-09-20 02:59:29 PM  
Darn it, sunny, in science we use metric!  It's not half-pint science, it's 236.5882 cubic centimeters science.
 
2017-09-20 03:00:13 PM  

Wolfmanjames: Darn it, sunny, in science we use metric!  It's not half-pint science, it's 236.5882 cubic centimeters science.


Subby, not sunny.  Stupid autocorrupt!
 
2017-09-20 03:12:42 PM  
But but but...  I was assured that women not going into science was genetic. That women's brains were different. That it couldn't possibly be social pressers. Could some Farkers actually be wrong?
 
2017-09-20 03:50:22 PM  

Grumpy Cat: Good for her.


and her parents/family friends who helped her.
 
2017-09-20 03:51:04 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Peer reviewed? I didn't know there were that many 8 year old entomologists.


i heard the sword go in.
 
2017-09-20 03:52:49 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: Shakes 9-year-old fist.  (Although I will note that The Journal of the American Medical Society is a top-5 journal by impact factor, and The Annals of the Entomological Society of America is.... not.)

Still, it's freaking awesome she pulled this off.  I love this stuff and actually do a bit on my class on it.  In the case of Emily Rosa, the editor of JAMA knew he was going to get grief for publishing a 9-year-old's 4th grade science fair project, so he sent it to twice the number of reviewers as normal.  The reviewers all came back saying publish it, and the editor later commented to the press that "Age doesn't matter. It's good science that matters, and this is good science"

[www.quackwatch.org image 298x210]


my goal is to be operated on for a deviated septum by a 4 year old.
 
2017-09-21 03:00:41 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: Four green lights in a row. I'm on a role.

Now to jinx it by saying were are going for five.


img.fark.net
 
2017-09-21 10:02:38 AM  

mrsleep: You probably still find it amazing that Hillary lost the election after repeatedly insulting half the population.


Many people find it amazing that Trump won the election after repeatedly insulting all of the population.
 
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