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2017-09-19 03:49:49 PM  
this needs to be talked about more. every connection between Pence and Manafort/Flynn needs to get dragged out in the media and Pence needs to get questions about it everytime reporters talk to him. I want the bastard to suffer
 
2017-09-19 04:15:25 PM  
And this is why you won't see a President Pence. He's as dirty as everyone else.

/President Hatch is the most likely stopping point
 
2017-09-19 04:42:55 PM  
Depending on whether Orrin Hatch ends up compromised, we might end up with President Zinke at this rate.
 
2017-09-19 04:44:39 PM  

bloobeary: Depending on whether Orrin Hatch ends up compromised, we might end up with President Zinke at this rate.


Hatch has looked the cleanest, almost sequestering himself from the forest of the GOP
 
2017-09-19 04:47:29 PM  
Good I hope that bigoted asshole goes down with Trump
 
2017-09-19 04:48:39 PM  

bloobeary: Depending on whether Orrin Hatch ends up compromised, we might end up with President Zinke at this rate.


unlikely. Mattis would be first in the "clean" line.

Zinke's going away for trying to extort the Alaska delegation last time they did a repeal ACA attempt
 
2017-09-19 04:50:32 PM  
"Trump had wanted Christie but Bridgegate would have been the biggest national story," a campaign source told the newspaper. "He'd lose the advantage of not being corrupt."

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2017-09-19 04:53:15 PM  
I, for one, look forward to the historic testing of our line of succession.
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Mattis would be nice, but "Escape" Hatch will likely end up in the oval office if things pan out spectacularly horribly.
 
2017-09-19 04:53:55 PM  

Unobtanium: "Trump had wanted Christie but Bridgegate would have been the biggest national story," a campaign source told the newspaper. "He'd lose the advantage of not being corrupt."

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rs580.pbsrc.com
 
2017-09-19 04:57:42 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: I, for one, look forward to the historic testing of our line of succession.
[img.fark.net image 484x600]
Mattis would be nice, but "Escape" Hatch will likely end up in the oval office if things pan out spectacularly horribly.


Hatch is old enough that the sudden shock of being president could kill him.

Then it's just a matter of going down the rung.

Funny thing is, most of those chuckf*cks have done enough in office to probably warrant a resignation alone, without being tied up in Russiagate. (Mnuchin with misappropriation of government property/funds, Zinke with attempted extortion of the Alaskan delegation, Price for misappropriation of funds re ACA)

The more interesting thing would be watching to see if Tillerson really does "go straight", since he was almost surely caught up in Russiagate but has done as much as he can to disavow anything the President says or does. Publicly. If he doesn't get out scott-free, I'll be impressed if Trump doesn't have him whacked.
 
2017-09-19 05:18:39 PM  
"Trump had wanted Christie but Bridgegate would have been the biggest national story," a campaign source told the newspaper. "He'd lose the advantage of not being corrupt."

img.fark.net
 
2017-09-19 05:24:08 PM  

somedude210: Markoff_Cheney: I, for one, look forward to the historic testing of our line of succession.
[img.fark.net image 484x600]
Mattis would be nice, but "Escape" Hatch will likely end up in the oval office if things pan out spectacularly horribly.

Hatch is old enough that the sudden shock of being president could kill him.

Then it's just a matter of going down the rung.

Funny thing is, most of those chuckf*cks have done enough in office to probably warrant a resignation alone, without being tied up in Russiagate. (Mnuchin with misappropriation of government property/funds, Zinke with attempted extortion of the Alaskan delegation, Price for misappropriation of funds re ACA)

The more interesting thing would be watching to see if Tillerson really does "go straight", since he was almost surely caught up in Russiagate but has done as much as he can to disavow anything the President says or does. Publicly. If he doesn't get out scott-free, I'll be impressed if Trump doesn't have him whacked.


Pssht, let's turn it to eleven.

Investigation drags out until after 2018 elections (so as to protect their integrity) and Dems - despite continued interference from the Russians - secure both houses. Inauguration day 2019, bombshells drop left and right implicating both Trump and Pence. New Congress convenes and elects none other than Hillary God Damn Clinton as Speaker of the House (nothing says they gotta be a member of Congress) and she presides over the impeachments and ascends to the Presidency.

Sure, that kinda stiggin' it would just kick off civil war, but man...the look on the Trumpers' faces would be worth it
 
2017-09-19 05:31:19 PM  
Well he could have formed a committee to pick himself as the running mate...
 
2017-09-19 05:44:08 PM  
Pence would deny he was even Vice President if he were asked if he were Vice President. For an man who says he is a 'Christian, a Conservative and a Republican', in that order, he sure does lie enough for him to be considered a 'Liar, Lying Liar and a Republican' in that order.
 
2017-09-19 05:50:47 PM  

somedude210: Unobtanium: "Trump had wanted Christie but Bridgegate would have been the biggest national story," a campaign source told the newspaper. "He'd lose the advantage of not being corrupt."

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Yeah, I'm really wondering who the hell they're talking about there.
 
2017-09-19 05:52:10 PM  
...and asked for no quid pro quo and everyone lived happily ever after.
 
2017-09-19 05:54:58 PM  

bloobeary: Depending on whether Orrin Hatch ends up compromised, we might end up with President Zinke at this rate.


Orrin Hatch is self aware and has a sense of humor. Dare to dream that he finishes Trump's term. He might even be human.
 
2017-09-19 05:55:19 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: I, for one, look forward to the historic testing of our line of succession.
[img.fark.net image 484x600]
Mattis would be nice, but "Escape" Hatch will likely end up in the oval office if things pan out spectacularly horribly.


#15 might be the scariest one on that list.
 
2017-09-19 05:56:05 PM  
It's been said before, but there is something about Pence that is very, very wrong.

Donald's farking crazy.  Pence seems...malevolent.
 
2017-09-19 05:56:42 PM  
I have been saying this on here with citations for months, dammit, nice of the media to notice..
 
2017-09-19 05:57:38 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: I, for one, look forward to the historic testing of our line of succession.
[img.fark.net image 484x600]
Mattis would be nice, but "Escape" Hatch will likely end up in the oval office if things pan out spectacularly horribly.


 At this rate, I'm half convinced I'll end up at president.

/Gin for President 2017!
 
2017-09-19 05:59:58 PM  

somedude210: Unobtanium: "Trump had wanted Christie but Bridgegate would have been the biggest national story," a campaign source told the newspaper. "He'd lose the advantage of not being corrupt."

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 350x197]

[rs580.pbsrc.com image 280x210]


s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com
 
2017-09-19 06:00:24 PM  

WI241TH: somedude210: Markoff_Cheney: I, for one, look forward to the historic testing of our line of succession.
[img.fark.net image 484x600]
Mattis would be nice, but "Escape" Hatch will likely end up in the oval office if things pan out spectacularly horribly.

Hatch is old enough that the sudden shock of being president could kill him.

Then it's just a matter of going down the rung.

Funny thing is, most of those chuckf*cks have done enough in office to probably warrant a resignation alone, without being tied up in Russiagate. (Mnuchin with misappropriation of government property/funds, Zinke with attempted extortion of the Alaskan delegation, Price for misappropriation of funds re ACA)

The more interesting thing would be watching to see if Tillerson really does "go straight", since he was almost surely caught up in Russiagate but has done as much as he can to disavow anything the President says or does. Publicly. If he doesn't get out scott-free, I'll be impressed if Trump doesn't have him whacked.

Pssht, let's turn it to eleven.

Investigation drags out until after 2018 elections (so as to protect their integrity) and Dems - despite continued interference from the Russians - secure both houses. Inauguration day 2019, bombshells drop left and right implicating both Trump and Pence. New Congress convenes and elects none other than Hillary God Damn Clinton as Speaker of the House (nothing says they gotta be a member of Congress) and she presides over the impeachments and ascends to the Presidency.

Sure, that kinda stiggin' it would just kick off civil war, but man...the look on the Trumpers' faces would be worth it


 It would truly be her turn

/ sorry couldn't resist
//She would finally be the heir apparent
// sorry again
 
2017-09-19 06:02:02 PM  

Unobtanium: "Trump had wanted Christie but Bridgegate would have been the biggest national story," a campaign source told the newspaper. "He'd lose the advantage of not being corrupt."

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 350x197]


I mean, appearance-wise it makes sense. Manafort has been in national politics since the Ford administration and doubling up on two North Eastern Republicans who are far less conventionally conservative than they enjoy being assholes to liberals would be risky. You get you a boring Midwesterner who can't stop talking about loving Jesus and hating abortion. Bridgegate was just the cherry on top.
 
2017-09-19 06:02:19 PM  

somedude210: bloobeary: Depending on whether Orrin Hatch ends up compromised, we might end up with President Zinke at this rate.

unlikely. Mattis would be first in the "clean" line.

Zinke's going away for trying to extort the Alaska delegation last time they did a repeal ACA attempt


The line is only relevant if all the leadership is taken out simultaneously. A lot more likely that someone clean gets installed into the VP or Speaker position before you get too far down.
 
2017-09-19 06:02:27 PM  

WI241TH: somedude210: Markoff_Cheney: I, for one, look forward to the historic testing of our line of succession.
[img.fark.net image 484x600]
Mattis would be nice, but "Escape" Hatch will likely end up in the oval office if things pan out spectacularly horribly.

Hatch is old enough that the sudden shock of being president could kill him.

Then it's just a matter of going down the rung.

Funny thing is, most of those chuckf*cks have done enough in office to probably warrant a resignation alone, without being tied up in Russiagate. (Mnuchin with misappropriation of government property/funds, Zinke with attempted extortion of the Alaskan delegation, Price for misappropriation of funds re ACA)

The more interesting thing would be watching to see if Tillerson really does "go straight", since he was almost surely caught up in Russiagate but has done as much as he can to disavow anything the President says or does. Publicly. If he doesn't get out scott-free, I'll be impressed if Trump doesn't have him whacked.

Pssht, let's turn it to eleven.

Investigation drags out until after 2018 elections (so as to protect their integrity) and Dems - despite continued interference from the Russians - secure both houses. Inauguration day 2019, bombshells drop left and right implicating both Trump and Pence. New Congress convenes and elects none other than Hillary God Damn Clinton as Speaker of the House (nothing says they gotta be a member of Congress) and she presides over the impeachments and ascends to the Presidency.

Sure, that kinda stiggin' it would just kick off civil war, but man...the look on the Trumpers' faces would be worth it


You say that like Hillary wouldn't figure out a way to screw that up.
 
2017-09-19 06:04:00 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: I, for one, look forward to the historic testing of our line of succession.
[img.fark.net image 484x600]
Mattis would be nice, but "Escape" Hatch will likely end up in the oval office if things pan out spectacularly horribly.


sadgeezer.com
 
2017-09-19 06:04:39 PM  

WI241TH: somedude210: Markoff_Cheney: I, for one, look forward to the historic testing of our line of succession.
[img.fark.net image 484x600]
Mattis would be nice, but "Escape" Hatch will likely end up in the oval office if things pan out spectacularly horribly.

Hatch is old enough that the sudden shock of being president could kill him.

Then it's just a matter of going down the rung.

Funny thing is, most of those chuckf*cks have done enough in office to probably warrant a resignation alone, without being tied up in Russiagate. (Mnuchin with misappropriation of government property/funds, Zinke with attempted extortion of the Alaskan delegation, Price for misappropriation of funds re ACA)

The more interesting thing would be watching to see if Tillerson really does "go straight", since he was almost surely caught up in Russiagate but has done as much as he can to disavow anything the President says or does. Publicly. If he doesn't get out scott-free, I'll be impressed if Trump doesn't have him whacked.

Pssht, let's turn it to eleven.

Investigation drags out until after 2018 elections (so as to protect their integrity) and Dems - despite continued interference from the Russians - secure both houses. Inauguration day 2019, bombshells drop left and right implicating both Trump and Pence. New Congress convenes and elects none other than Hillary God Damn Clinton as Speaker of the House (nothing says they gotta be a member of Congress) and she presides over the impeachments and ascends to the Presidency.

Sure, that kinda stiggin' it would just kick off civil war, but man...the look on the Trumpers' faces would be worth it


That's beautiful man, you deserve a good Pegging...

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2017-09-19 06:05:18 PM  

scottydoesntknow: And this is why you won't see a President Pence. He's as dirty as everyone else.

/President Hatch is the most likely stopping point


I dunno about Hatch, but I agree 100% that Pence is definitely as dirty as the rest of these farks.  Something tells me that Ryan will slither out of this mess somehow without facing legal consequences.
 
2017-09-19 06:10:09 PM  
If Manafort were incompetent, he wouldn't be in so much trouble. Would he leave a widow if something were to happen to him by his own hand at this point?
 
2017-09-19 06:10:27 PM  

Glitchwerks: It's been said before, but there is something about Pence that is very, very wrong.

Donald's farking crazy.  Pence seems...malevolent.


Because he's a Jesusy nutjob zealot.
 
2017-09-19 06:12:13 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: I, for one, look forward to the historic testing of our line of succession.
[img.fark.net image 484x600]
Mattis would be nice, but "Escape" Hatch will likely end up in the oval office if things pan out spectacularly horribly.


I wouldn't count out the chicken hawks before Hatch.
 
2017-09-19 06:15:48 PM  
The best people. Just ask "mother", she'll tell you.
 
2017-09-19 06:16:12 PM  
Said it before, saying it again: Pence is/was trying to position himself for the big chair, namely by standing back and letting Trump shoot himself in the foot over and over again, and by getting into that staring contest with no one over at the North Korean DMZ for the cameras.

I figure his initial end game was to step in going "oh man you guys I tried to stop him!" and he'd look good enough compared to Trump that the redcaps would reluctantly back him even though he's not their chosen messiah.

Pence having to cast the deciding vote for unpopular legislation and the Manafort connection probably shut down that plan, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump drag Pence off to jail with him just because he's vindictive and doesn't want to be the only one.

I would hope that if ANYONE actually wants to clean house over there, they realize that both need to go.
 
2017-09-19 06:18:00 PM  

shpritz: somedude210: bloobeary: Depending on whether Orrin Hatch ends up compromised, we might end up with President Zinke at this rate.

unlikely. Mattis would be first in the "clean" line.

Zinke's going away for trying to extort the Alaska delegation last time they did a repeal ACA attempt

The line is only relevant if all the leadership is taken out simultaneously. A lot more likely that someone clean gets installed into the VP or Speaker position before you get too far down.


a day where Mueller rolls off a list of indictments could see a bunch taken out in one fell move
 
2017-09-19 06:23:08 PM  

Ocean_Pimp: didn't this story come out forever ago?


Sometimes we need a reminder
 
2017-09-19 06:25:21 PM  

Ocean_Pimp: didn't this story come out forever ago?


and? Maybe some of the press are going back and connecting dots and going "oh shiat...that's not good"
 
2017-09-19 06:26:18 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: I, for one, look forward to the historic testing of our line of succession.
[img.fark.net image 484x600]
Mattis would be nice, but "Escape" Hatch will likely end up in the oval office if things pan out spectacularly horribly.


Only if the first three are all impeached/resign at the same time.  If any one of them is President for long enough to pick their own VP, that VP would cut to the head of the line of succession (assuming the VP pick is confirmed).
 
2017-09-19 06:27:17 PM  

Ocean_Pimp: somedude210: and? Maybe some of the press are going back and connecting dots and going "oh shiat...that's not good"

so report it like breaking news?  Raw Story is clickbait shiat and i wish they'd go away


oh. Okay. Just usual Raw Story hate. Okay. Whatever
 
2017-09-19 06:29:04 PM  

quizzical: Markoff_Cheney: I, for one, look forward to the historic testing of our line of succession.
[img.fark.net image 484x600]
Mattis would be nice, but "Escape" Hatch will likely end up in the oval office if things pan out spectacularly horribly.

Only if the first three are all impeached/resign at the same time.  If any one of them is President for long enough to pick their own VP, that VP would cut to the head of the line of succession (assuming the VP pick is confirmed).


If we actually got to the point of removing the P and VP I doubt any new VP would be confirmed until the purge finishes.
 
2017-09-19 06:30:10 PM  

quizzical: Markoff_Cheney: I, for one, look forward to the historic testing of our line of succession.
[img.fark.net image 484x600]
Mattis would be nice, but "Escape" Hatch will likely end up in the oval office if things pan out spectacularly horribly.

Only if the first three are all impeached/resign at the same time.  If any one of them is President for long enough to pick their own VP, that VP would cut to the head of the line of succession (assuming the VP pick is confirmed).


if you're looking at a new person in the line of succession to appoint a VP and get it confirmed quickly enough should make you question how severe a crisis it is if they're in the big chair.

you may not have a friendly congress left to deal with it.

/or a friendly mob, if it comes out that the highest officers in the country were all found to be corrupt and paid by Russia
 
2017-09-19 06:35:27 PM  

somedude210: shpritz: somedude210: bloobeary: Depending on whether Orrin Hatch ends up compromised, we might end up with President Zinke at this rate.

unlikely. Mattis would be first in the "clean" line.

Zinke's going away for trying to extort the Alaska delegation last time they did a repeal ACA attempt

The line is only relevant if all the leadership is taken out simultaneously. A lot more likely that someone clean gets installed into the VP or Speaker position before you get too far down.

a day where Mueller rolls off a list of indictments could see a bunch taken out in one fell move


I don't think indictments are enough to "take them out". Wouldn't convictions be needed? Because if so a day like that would signal who is clean and can be appointed to the proper position to take over when needed.
 
2017-09-19 06:40:28 PM  

somedude210: shpritz: somedude210: bloobeary: Depending on whether Orrin Hatch ends up compromised, we might end up with President Zinke at this rate.

unlikely. Mattis would be first in the "clean" line.

Zinke's going away for trying to extort the Alaska delegation last time they did a repeal ACA attempt

The line is only relevant if all the leadership is taken out simultaneously. A lot more likely that someone clean gets installed into the VP or Speaker position before you get too far down.

a day where Mueller rolls off a list of indictments could see a bunch taken out in one fell move


I gleefully dream of that day.
 
2017-09-19 07:04:01 PM  

shpritz: I don't think indictments are enough to "take them out". Wouldn't convictions be needed? Because if so a day like that would signal who is clean and can be appointed to the proper position to take over when needed.


Indictment will likely force a resignation, even if Trump isn't "for" it
 
2017-09-19 07:27:36 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: I, for one, look forward to the historic testing of our line of succession.
[img.fark.net image 484x600]
Mattis would be nice, but "Escape" Hatch will likely end up in the oval office if things pan out spectacularly horribly.


You have no idea how much it pains me that Betsy farkin DeVos is IN THE LINE OF SUCCESSION!
 
2017-09-19 07:30:23 PM  

shpritz: somedude210: bloobeary: Depending on whether Orrin Hatch ends up compromised, we might end up with President Zinke at this rate.

unlikely. Mattis would be first in the "clean" line.

Zinke's going away for trying to extort the Alaska delegation last time they did a repeal ACA attempt

The line is only relevant if all the leadership is taken out simultaneously. A lot more likely that someone clean gets installed into the VP or Speaker position before you get too far down.


IF removal proceedings actually started, do you REALLY think replacements for those positions could be confirmed?
 
2017-09-20 12:18:42 AM  
i1377.photobucket.com
 
2017-09-20 02:04:59 AM  

somedude210: shpritz: I don't think indictments are enough to "take them out". Wouldn't convictions be needed? Because if so a day like that would signal who is clean and can be appointed to the proper position to take over when needed.

Indictment will likely force a resignation, even if Trump isn't "for" it


But it still gives them a chance to do it in an orderly fashion. They could have Pence resign first and the Senate appoint a clean VP (or Ryan resign/House elects a new Speaker) before Trump resigns/gets impeached.
 
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