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2017-09-18 07:19:45 PM  
So was Trump right about the wiretap?

/running away
 
2017-09-18 07:23:53 PM  

FlyingBacon: So was Trump right about the wiretap?

/running away


That's wiretapp to you, Bacon boy
 
2017-09-18 07:34:24 PM  
"It is unclear when the new warrant started."

This is actually an important detail.
 
2017-09-18 07:35:02 PM  
Well this certainly explains Trump's 15-Tweet Tweetstorm yesterday.  It seemed obvious that something big was going to drop soon.
 
2017-09-18 07:35:02 PM  
So investigating foreign badguys led them to investigate Manafort, I see.

"US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN, an extraordinary step involving a high-ranking campaign official now at the center of the Russia meddling probe.

The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.Some of the intelligence collected includes communications that sparked concerns among investigators that Manafort had encouraged the Russians to help with the campaign, according to three sources familiar with the investigation"

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"A secret order authorized by the court that handles the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) began after Manafort became the subject of an FBI investigation that began in 2014. It centered on work done by a group of Washington consulting firms for Ukraine's former ruling party, the sources told CNN. "
 
2017-09-18 07:35:30 PM  
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At least this means Trump should be feeling the noose tightening around his own neck now and not just his lackeys.  I expect some unhinged twitter tomorrow, and we thought yesterday was top shelf madness...
 
2017-09-18 07:37:42 PM  
"As Manafort took the reins as Trump campaign chairman in May, the FBI surveillance technicians were no longer listening. The fact he was part of the campaign didn't play a role in the discontinued monitoring, sources told CNN. It was the lack of evidence relating to the Ukraine investigation that prompted the FBI to pull back. "

"Manafort was ousted from the campaign in August. By then the FBI had noticed what counterintelligence agents thought was a series of odd connections between Trump associates and Russia. The CIA also had developed information, including from human intelligence sources, that they believed showed Russian President Vladimir Putin had ordered his intelligence services to conduct a broad operation to meddle with the US election, according to current and former US officials.
The FBI surveillance teams, under a new FISA warrant, began monitoring Manafort again, sources tell CNN."
 
2017-09-18 07:41:28 PM  

thorpe: "As Manafort took the reins as Trump campaign chairman in May, the FBI surveillance technicians were no longer listening. The fact he was part of the campaign didn't play a role in the discontinued monitoring, sources told CNN. It was the lack of evidence relating to the Ukraine investigation that prompted the FBI to pull back. "

"Manafort was ousted from the campaign in August. By then the FBI had noticed what counterintelligence agents thought was a series of odd connections between Trump associates and Russia. The CIA also had developed information, including from human intelligence sources, that they believed showed Russian President Vladimir Putin had ordered his intelligence services to conduct a broad operation to meddle with the US election, according to current and former US officials.
The FBI surveillance teams, under a new FISA warrant, began monitoring Manafort again, sources tell CNN."


Paraphrasing Rick Wilson on Twitter, 'Mueller has a Royal Flush'.

This is getting real.
 
2017-09-18 07:43:48 PM  
El-oh-effing-el
 
2017-09-18 07:45:04 PM  
I'd be more amused if there weren't a distinct chance that Cheetolini will nuke something just to distract us
 
2017-09-18 07:45:08 PM  
Ah hahahahhaha.

shiats getting real.
 
2017-09-18 07:45:17 PM  
The butt-Trumpets aren't going to like this.

"Illegal, deepstate, witch hunt!"
 
2017-09-18 07:45:34 PM  
Given his involvement with so many FSB-connected people, it's kind of obvious he'd be looked at.

That he was the subject of FISA surveillance doesn't seem to have meant there was anything found that was terribly useful or important because they dropped the program eventually.

Even if they picked it up again later, it would be shocking to discover Manafort or his contacts said anything incriminating during the second phase since his Russian connections were all over the media.
 
2017-09-18 07:45:52 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: [img.fark.net image 480x360]
At least this means Trump should be feeling the noose tightening around his own neck now and not just his lackeys.  I expect some unhinged twitter tomorrow, and we thought yesterday was top shelf madness...


he should be, but methinks he will play this as 100% validation in his "Obama wiretapped me" narrative.
and his lemmings will eat it up.
 
2017-09-18 07:46:54 PM  
And no one thought it a good idea to say anything *during* the election?

I mean, besides a lot of us?
 
2017-09-18 07:47:16 PM  
The phrase, "Crooked as a dog's hind leg" comes to mind about all of these circus clowns.

25th

 
2017-09-18 07:48:00 PM  
Trumptantrum will be epic!
 
2017-09-18 07:49:30 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-09-18 07:49:32 PM  
Wait until we get a load of all the stuff he talked to Trump directly about. Yeah, no wonder Trump was at cat 5 tweetstorm yesterday.
 
2017-09-18 07:50:08 PM  

Circusdog320: Trumptantrum will be epic!


I can hear him say...I told you so!!
 
2017-09-18 07:52:14 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: [img.fark.net image 480x360]
At least this means Trump should be feeling the noose tightening around his own neck now and not just his lackeys.  I expect some unhinged twitter tomorrow, and we thought yesterday was top shelf madness...


You always have good odds of unhinged Twitter.

But keep in mind Manafort was not a Trump insider for very long.  And was never part of the inner circle, as far as I can tell.  You don't see Two Scoops getting antsy about him the way he does about Flynn.  Trump is worried about Flynn...

in all seriousness, Manafort could end up being like some scumbag with a warrant for some unrelated crimes who happens to be in line when some schmuck robs the bank.  Bad timing and bad luck for him.
 
2017-09-18 07:53:01 PM  

elvisaintdead: Markoff_Cheney: [img.fark.net image 480x360]
At least this means Trump should be feeling the noose tightening around his own neck now and not just his lackeys.  I expect some unhinged twitter tomorrow, and we thought yesterday was top shelf madness...

he should be, but methinks he will play this as 100% validation in his "Obama wiretapped me" narrative.
and his lemmings will eat it up.


I hate that you are probably right.
 
2017-09-18 07:54:58 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Wait until we get a load of all the stuff he talked to Trump directly about. Yeah, no wonder Trump was at cat 5 tweetstorm yesterday.


If they were targeting Manafort, you better bet there are conversations. D2S, Kush, Half-Scoop, Cuck-Sucker, Flynn...

/Prison.
//Every single one of them.
 
2017-09-18 07:55:05 PM  

wejash: Markoff_Cheney: [img.fark.net image 480x360]
At least this means Trump should be feeling the noose tightening around his own neck now and not just his lackeys.  I expect some unhinged twitter tomorrow, and we thought yesterday was top shelf madness...

You always have good odds of unhinged Twitter.

But keep in mind Manafort was not a Trump insider for very long.  And was never part of the inner circle, as far as I can tell.  You don't see Two Scoops getting antsy about him the way he does about Flynn.  Trump is worried about Flynn...

in all seriousness, Manafort could end up being like some scumbag with a warrant for some unrelated crimes who happens to be in line when some schmuck robs the bank.  Bad timing and bad luck for him.


Manafort picked Pence.  He was a big deal for the time he was publicly a part of the campaign.
 
2017-09-18 07:56:24 PM  
img.fark.net

Is it a somethingburger yet
 
2017-09-18 07:57:41 PM  

PainInTheASP: KarmicDisaster: Wait until we get a load of all the stuff he talked to Trump directly about. Yeah, no wonder Trump was at cat 5 tweetstorm yesterday.

If they were targeting Manafort, you better bet there are conversations. D2S, Kush, Half-Scoop, Cuck-Sucker, Flynn...

/Prison.
//Every single one of them.


Guantanamo.
 
2017-09-18 07:58:37 PM  

Hyperbolic Hyperbole: [img.fark.net image 425x579]

Is it a somethingburger yet


img.fark.net
 
2017-09-18 07:59:07 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: wejash: Markoff_Cheney: [img.fark.net image 480x360]
At least this means Trump should be feeling the noose tightening around his own neck now and not just his lackeys.  I expect some unhinged twitter tomorrow, and we thought yesterday was top shelf madness...

You always have good odds of unhinged Twitter.

But keep in mind Manafort was not a Trump insider for very long.  And was never part of the inner circle, as far as I can tell.  You don't see Two Scoops getting antsy about him the way he does about Flynn.  Trump is worried about Flynn...

in all seriousness, Manafort could end up being like some scumbag with a warrant for some unrelated crimes who happens to be in line when some schmuck robs the bank.  Bad timing and bad luck for him.

Manafort picked Pence.  He was a big deal for the time he was publicly a part of the campaign.


Don't forget Pence knew right after the election that Flynn was compromised, and sat on the memo, and lied in public about knowing anything about Flynn.
 
2017-09-18 08:00:05 PM  

Nadie_AZ: PainInTheASP: KarmicDisaster: Wait until we get a load of all the stuff he talked to Trump directly about. Yeah, no wonder Trump was at cat 5 tweetstorm yesterday.

If they were targeting Manafort, you better bet there are conversations. D2S, Kush, Half-Scoop, Cuck-Sucker, Flynn...

/Prison.
//Every single one of them.

Guantanamo.


You. You I like.
 
2017-09-18 08:00:14 PM  
I'm totally ready to live through the downfall of Trump. I know his cretinous followers won't magically become human but I don't care, it's a step.
 
2017-09-18 08:01:50 PM  
FTFA:  Manafort became the subject of an FBI investigation that began in 2014. It centered on work done by a group of Washington consulting firms for Ukraine's former ruling party, the sources told CNN.
The surveillance was discontinued at some point last year for lack of evidence, according to one of the sources.

The FBI then restarted the surveillance after obtaining a new FISA warrant that extended at least into early this year.

Sources say the second warrant was part of the FBI's efforts to investigate ties between Trump campaign associates and suspected Russian operatives. Such warrants require the approval of top Justice Department and FBI officials, and the FBI must provide the court with information showing suspicion that the subject of the warrant may be acting as an agent of a foreign power.


This will turn into, "Obama himself personally, secretly, and illegally, mind you, bigly illegally, has been spying on me. I told you it was true."
 
2017-09-18 08:02:35 PM  

Girl From The North Country: thorpe: "As Manafort took the reins as Trump campaign chairman in May, the FBI surveillance technicians were no longer listening. The fact he was part of the campaign didn't play a role in the discontinued monitoring, sources told CNN. It was the lack of evidence relating to the Ukraine investigation that prompted the FBI to pull back. "

"Manafort was ousted from the campaign in August. By then the FBI had noticed what counterintelligence agents thought was a series of odd connections between Trump associates and Russia. The CIA also had developed information, including from human intelligence sources, that they believed showed Russian President Vladimir Putin had ordered his intelligence services to conduct a broad operation to meddle with the US election, according to current and former US officials.
The FBI surveillance teams, under a new FISA warrant, began monitoring Manafort again, sources tell CNN."

Paraphrasing Rick Wilson on Twitter, 'Mueller has a Royal Flush'.

This is getting real.


img.fark.net

I know which quote you speak of. It's brilliant.
 
2017-09-18 08:03:04 PM  

FlashHarry: Hyperbolic Hyperbole: [img.fark.net image 425x579]

Is it a somethingburger yet

[img.fark.net image 850x356]


That's a big nothingburger ...
 
2017-09-18 08:03:06 PM  
Didn't we already know this months ago?
 
2017-09-18 08:06:52 PM  

markie_farkie: Markoff_Cheney: wejash: Markoff_Cheney: [img.fark.net image 480x360]
At least this means Trump should be feeling the noose tightening around his own neck now and not just his lackeys.  I expect some unhinged twitter tomorrow, and we thought yesterday was top shelf madness...

You always have good odds of unhinged Twitter.

But keep in mind Manafort was not a Trump insider for very long.  And was never part of the inner circle, as far as I can tell.  You don't see Two Scoops getting antsy about him the way he does about Flynn.  Trump is worried about Flynn...

in all seriousness, Manafort could end up being like some scumbag with a warrant for some unrelated crimes who happens to be in line when some schmuck robs the bank.  Bad timing and bad luck for him.

Manafort picked Pence.  He was a big deal for the time he was publicly a part of the campaign.

Don't forget Pence knew right after the election that Flynn was compromised, and sat on the memo, and lied in public about knowing anything about Flynn.


Manafort chose Pence.
 
2017-09-18 08:08:58 PM  
Does this mean there's actual audio of the Trump campaign colluding with Russian agents?
 
2017-09-18 08:11:00 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: Didn't we already know this months ago?


No. It had not been revealed that Manafort was the subject of a FISA warrant had secretly been ordered on him since 2014. This is new. You know who else had a FISA warrant on them since 2014? Carter Page.

WHO IS CARTER PAGE AND WHY IS THE FBI SURVEILLING HIM?
 
2017-09-18 08:12:16 PM  

kanesays: Girl From The North Country: thorpe: "As Manafort took the reins as Trump campaign chairman in May, the FBI surveillance technicians were no longer listening. The fact he was part of the campaign didn't play a role in the discontinued monitoring, sources told CNN. It was the lack of evidence relating to the Ukraine investigation that prompted the FBI to pull back. "

"Manafort was ousted from the campaign in August. By then the FBI had noticed what counterintelligence agents thought was a series of odd connections between Trump associates and Russia. The CIA also had developed information, including from human intelligence sources, that they believed showed Russian President Vladimir Putin had ordered his intelligence services to conduct a broad operation to meddle with the US election, according to current and former US officials.
The FBI surveillance teams, under a new FISA warrant, began monitoring Manafort again, sources tell CNN."

Paraphrasing Rick Wilson on Twitter, 'Mueller has a Royal Flush'.

This is getting real.

[img.fark.net image 700x375]

I know which quote you speak of. It's brilliant.


Ah, in the Tweet I saw he said "IC", and I assumed it was Independent Counsel thus my reference to Mueller.
 
2017-09-18 08:16:30 PM  

kanesays: NeedlesslyCanadian: Didn't we already know this months ago?

No. It had not been revealed that Manafort was the subject of a FISA warrant had secretly been ordered on him since 2014. This is new. You know who else had a FISA warrant on them since 2014? Carter Page.

WHO IS CARTER PAGE AND WHY IS THE FBI SURVEILLING HIM?


Could've sworn it was Manafort I'd heard, but you're probably right. I'm probably thinking of Page.
 
2017-09-18 08:16:31 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Does this mean there's actual audio of the Trump campaign colluding with Russian agents?


31.media.tumblr.com
 
2017-09-18 08:19:02 PM  
ih0.redbubble.net
 
2017-09-18 08:26:09 PM  
"But it's CNN, and therefore fake -- truth news that is what I've been saying -- fake -- CNN *bzzt* it's Obama -- tapp -- *bzzt* -- FAKE CNN *bzzt* covfefe covfefe"
 
2017-09-18 08:29:40 PM  
NYT now reporting Mueller told Manafort they plan to indict him
 
2017-09-18 08:31:34 PM  
I love this. Get everyone on record, have them testify and cut deals, let them state under oath their stories and claims....

And then comes the tape.

Investigators on these matters love asking questions to which they already have the answers.
 
2017-09-18 08:32:55 PM  
yeah all the Trumpbots are saying this validates Trump's assertion that Obama wiretapped him. I just tell them not Trump. Manafort.
 
2017-09-18 08:33:57 PM  

Girl From The North Country: kanesays: Girl From The North Country: thorpe: "As Manafort took the reins as Trump campaign chairman in May, the FBI surveillance technicians were no longer listening. The fact he was part of the campaign didn't play a role in the discontinued monitoring, sources told CNN. It was the lack of evidence relating to the Ukraine investigation that prompted the FBI to pull back. "

"Manafort was ousted from the campaign in August. By then the FBI had noticed what counterintelligence agents thought was a series of odd connections between Trump associates and Russia. The CIA also had developed information, including from human intelligence sources, that they believed showed Russian President Vladimir Putin had ordered his intelligence services to conduct a broad operation to meddle with the US election, according to current and former US officials.
The FBI surveillance teams, under a new FISA warrant, began monitoring Manafort again, sources tell CNN."

Paraphrasing Rick Wilson on Twitter, 'Mueller has a Royal Flush'.

This is getting real.

[img.fark.net image 700x375]

I know which quote you speak of. It's brilliant.

Ah, in the Tweet I saw he said "IC", and I assumed it was Independent Counsel thus my reference to Mueller.


img.fark.net

I stumbled across this a minute ago in a response to Eric Garland. Crazy.
 
2017-09-18 08:34:11 PM  

wejash: Markoff_Cheney: [img.fark.net image 480x360]
At least this means Trump should be feeling the noose tightening around his own neck now and not just his lackeys.  I expect some unhinged twitter tomorrow, and we thought yesterday was top shelf madness...

You always have good odds of unhinged Twitter.

But keep in mind Manafort was not a Trump insider for very long.  And was never part of the inner circle, as far as I can tell.  You don't see Two Scoops getting antsy about him the way he does about Flynn.  Trump is worried about Flynn...

in all seriousness, Manafort could end up being like some scumbag with a warrant for some unrelated crimes who happens to be in line when some schmuck robs the bank.  Bad timing and bad luck for him.


Yet Managort still had offices in Trump Tower after leaving the campaign. It appears he didn't go anywhere.
 
2017-09-18 08:35:35 PM  
Manafort's starting to look like that dolphin -- you know, the famous one from that old TV show with the high-pitched laugh.
 
2017-09-18 08:35:45 PM  
Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste:

...Managort...

That is an awesome mis-type.
 
2017-09-18 08:35:47 PM  

croesius: I love this. Get everyone on record, have them testify and cut deals, let them state under oath their stories and claims....

And then comes the tape.

Investigators on these matters love asking questions to which they already have the answers.


The pee tape?
 
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