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2017-09-18 07:12:29 PM  
I read that as "goes door to door questioning"
 
2017-09-18 08:00:46 PM  
FTA: Hillary Clinton, in an interview that aired Monday on NPR, said she "would not" rule out questioning the legitimacy of the 2016 election if Russian interference is deeper than currently known.

This is a perfectly cromulent statement and hardly hysterical, Comrade Trumpmitter.
 
2017-09-18 08:04:51 PM  
F*ck off, Comrade subby.
 
2017-09-18 08:09:20 PM  
she could envision a time when she questions Trump's legitimacy as president.

Honey, that's me every farking day.
 
2017-09-18 08:10:36 PM  
She's not wrong just because you don't agree with her Subby

It's not like it's going to magically result in her becoming President, but she has the right to say this.  In fact, I'd go beyond saying she has the right.  In order to protect our Democracy, someone has to be willing to call this what it is (depending on what transpires with investigations).  She has an obligation to do this so it never farking happens again. Trump has not taken one step to ensure the integrity of the election - and no you can't count his sham commission on election integrity.

Everyone should be outraged by this.

God damn
 
2017-09-18 08:11:12 PM  
What is Fark's wisdom on the work Mike Farb is doing?

I know I know, Twitter people and all. It's interesting, and I'm not sure how much credence to lend it.
 
2017-09-18 08:14:48 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: What is Fark's wisdom on the work Mike Farb is doing?

I know I know, Twitter people and all. It's interesting, and I'm not sure how much credence to lend it.


I wish he'd partner with Nate Silver or someone who could get into the statistical probabilities; something more than 'this is fishy'.  I'm sure it will come to that.  I definitely think there's a there there.
 
2017-09-18 08:28:56 PM  
If we're comparing politicians to the Mine-o-saur, I'd wager there are others more suited to the comparison.
 
2017-09-18 08:30:32 PM  
Fark off, Subavitch.
 
2017-09-18 08:39:44 PM  
The integrity of the American electoral process is "amusing" to Dumbmitter.
 
2017-09-18 08:41:59 PM  
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2017-09-18 08:42:35 PM  
In such a case, I suppose the election results would be vacated, Paul Ryan would take over the role during a snap election, and The Rock becomes our next President.
 
2017-09-18 08:43:50 PM  
Glutton for punishment......

/ I wonder what her home life is like. Is it really THAT BAD to be able to hug the grand babies every day?
 
2017-09-18 08:45:44 PM  

ElvisThroop: I read that as "goes door to door questioning"


I envision Hillary Clinton going door to door asking people asking "Am I your President?", then just thanking the obviously confused people and going for the next home. She looks at the list not houseownesr, all with a YES/NO option, smiles, looks at the next houses, sighs, and says "Well, this will be a long day".

Cue the credits.
 
2017-09-18 08:46:13 PM  
Trump's White House is as little concerned about Russian hacking of elections as Bush was about getting bin Laden. I wonder why.
 
2017-09-18 08:46:55 PM  
Mine Mine Mine for 10 Hours
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2017-09-18 08:47:50 PM  

Girl From The North Country: She's not wrong just because you don't agree with her Subby

It's not like it's going to magically result in her becoming President, but she has the right to say this.  In fact, I'd go beyond saying she has the right.  In order to protect our Democracy, someone has to be willing to call this what it is (depending on what transpires with investigations).  She has an obligation to do this so it never farking happens again. Trump has not taken one step to ensure the integrity of the election - and no you can't count his sham commission on election integrity.

Everyone should be outraged by this.

God damn


But this Murica where their feelings are just as valid as your facts.
 
2017-09-18 08:48:03 PM  
IT'S MINE. MY OWN. MY....PRECIOUS. It came to me on my birthday; didn't it, my precious.

/ I guess Trump, by default, is a nasty hobbitses in this scenario....
 
2017-09-18 08:48:52 PM  
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What I imagine subby to resemble, just a tad less artistic
 
2017-09-18 08:49:13 PM  
I've been questioning this election since Trump went down the escalator 2 years ago.  About time everyone else caught up.
 
2017-09-18 08:52:27 PM  
I mean, she's not wrong...
 
2017-09-18 08:53:46 PM  

FlashHarry: FTA: Hillary Clinton, in an interview that aired Monday on NPR, said she "would not" rule out questioning the legitimacy of the 2016 election if Russian interference is deeper than currently known.

This is a perfectly cromulent statement and hardly hysterical, Comrade Trumpmitter.


And it's time to start asking those questions.
 
2017-09-18 08:54:24 PM  
Considering it looks like Mueller may have Manafort dead to rights on something, it may not be as crazy as subby thinks.
 
2017-09-18 08:59:56 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: What is Fark's wisdom on the work Mike Farb is doing?

I know I know, Twitter people and all. It's interesting, and I'm not sure how much credence to lend it.


He backs up his stuff with actual numbers. Yeah... there is lots of fishy shiat out there.
 
2017-09-18 09:01:21 PM  

gottagopee: What I imagine subby to resemble, just a tad less artistic


The newest Hellraiser Cenobite looks...weird
 
2017-09-18 09:01:38 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: In such a case, I suppose the election results would be vacated, Paul Ryan would take over the role during a snap election, and The Rock becomes our next President.


As long as we're imagining things, I'll suppose that Trump would just serve out the remainder of his term, with absolutely zero political capital, as the lamest duck anyone's ever seen.
 
2017-09-18 09:02:02 PM  
Given the razor thin margins of the election, I think that the following things to blame for Secretary Clinton's loss are reasonable:

Russia
Her mediocre campaigning
Her lack of charisma
FBI investigation
Mishandling of Benghazi (a video, really?)
30 years of lies by the vast, right wing conspiracy
Sexism
Bernie Sanders criticism
Jill Stein
Gary Johnson
Voter apathy
Decision to use private email server

Maybe any one of those could have made things different. Some items were within her control and others were not.
 
2017-09-18 09:04:10 PM  
We know that Russia interfered on behalf of Trump.
We know that members of the Trump campaign have had shiatloads of undisclosed meetings and contacts with Russia.
We know that our electronic voting machines have absolutely shiatty security, that hackers easily bypassed in tests.
We know that Russia at least triedto access sensitive election data in multiple states, and succeeded, to some extent, in at least a couple.
We know that Donald Trump lost the popular vote by millions, but 'won' the electoral college by a relative handful of votes, spread across several key states...exactly how someone would rig an election if they didn't want to make it too obvious.

Yeah, the facts point to things being a little shady, at best. The question is, what if it DOES turn out that the President of the United States was the 'victor' of a fraudulent election that he helped rig? It'd be a Constitutional crisis like we've never seen, especially since his entire campaign, and a good chunk of the GOP, could potentially be complicit.
 
2017-09-18 09:04:18 PM  

fusillade762: she could envision a time when she questions Trump's legitimacy as president.

Honey, that's me every farking day.


Part of me thinks that after rummaging through yhe house finding sometthing, anything alcoholic, after the bottle of wine i ended up ch
 
2017-09-18 09:04:28 PM  
fta, since subby apparently missed this part: "Glen Caplin, a spokesman for Hillary Clinton, reiterated in a statement after the interview aired that the former secretary of state 'has said repeatedly the results of the election are over but we have to learn what happened.' "

said repeatedly the results of the election are over

said repeatedly the results of the election are over

said repeatedly the results of the election are over

said repeatedly the results of the election are over
 
2017-09-18 09:05:43 PM  
Hey subby, Trump himself admitted that he wouldn't accept the results of the election if he lost and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that we'd still be hearing him piss and moan on twitter and Fox News to this day if that were the case
 
2017-09-18 09:06:12 PM  
Chugging. WTF iphone. I did not touch add comment.

Anyway, maybe after passing out on my floor election night, i didnt actually wake up. This is the afterlife and i am in hell.
 
2017-09-18 09:06:15 PM  
I thought it was Bernies fault she lost?  Oh that was last week.  This week the election was fixed.  Next week it'll be Obama's fault.
 
2017-09-18 09:07:46 PM  
Republicans don't want Clinton, and Democrats and sane people don't want Trump.

I say we go for a Romney/Biden unity ticket.
 
2017-09-18 09:07:54 PM  
That was impolitic and premature. It's one thing for the electorate to speculate, it's a whole other for the losing candidate to.  Sigh.
 
2017-09-18 09:09:07 PM  

natural316: Hey subby, Trump himself admitted that he wouldn't accept the results of the election if he lost and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that we'd still be hearing him piss and moan on twitter and Fox News to this day if that were the case


He pisses and moans anyway, and subby echoes him. They just can't get over that he didn't lose.
 
2017-09-18 09:13:18 PM  
As much as I despise Hillary, she might be entirely correct.
 
2017-09-18 09:14:26 PM  

FormlessOne: FlashHarry: FTA: Hillary Clinton, in an interview that aired Monday on NPR, said she "would not" rule out questioning the legitimacy of the 2016 election if Russian interference is deeper than currently known.

This is a perfectly cromulent statement and hardly hysterical, Comrade Trumpmitter.

And it's time to start asking those questions.


OK
Were the Russian sponsored Facebook ads more effective than the DNC and her own campaigning?
 
2017-09-18 09:18:26 PM  

farkstorm: FormlessOne: FlashHarry: FTA: Hillary Clinton, in an interview that aired Monday on NPR, said she "would not" rule out questioning the legitimacy of the 2016 election if Russian interference is deeper than currently known.

This is a perfectly cromulent statement and hardly hysterical, Comrade Trumpmitter.

And it's time to start asking those questions.

OK
Were the Russian sponsored Facebook ads more effective than the DNC and her own campaigning?



Maybe the Russians were more in tune with the American electorate.

Hey, wait a minute...
 
2017-09-18 09:18:41 PM  
Given that the exit polls on election night were wonky enough that if it had been practically *any* other country we'd have had UN inspectors going through our data for months, it wouldn't surprise me if there was something wrong with vote tallies.
 
2017-09-18 09:18:51 PM  

Girl From The North Country: She's not wrong just because you don't agree with her Subby

It's not like it's going to magically result in her becoming President, but she has the right to say this.  In fact, I'd go beyond saying she has the right.  In order to protect our Democracy, someone has to be willing to call this what it is (depending on what transpires with investigations).  She has an obligation to do this so it never farking happens again. Trump has not taken one step to ensure the integrity of the election - and no you can't count his sham commission on election integrity.

Everyone should be outraged by this.

God damn


Agreed.  If just hypothetically, the Russians were found to have tampered with voting machines and changed actual vote counts in enough states to swing the electoral college, she has a duty to come out and at least call him illegitimate.

She's also right that there's no mechanism to rectify the situation.  Which makes me think it's something the Democrats should get going on if they ever control enough of Congress to do so.  We need an amendment to address this. It's not enough to just remove him if the VP or the speaker get to stay in power, the illegitimate presidents party still wins if the VP or a same party speaker just finish out the term.

An amendment: A president found to be illegitimate is immediately removed from office, as well as the VP.  Speaker of the house becomes president until such time as new elections can be held in six months, with any participants in the ballots automatically added if they wish to run again.  The speaker does not have the authority to change the election, and no new people can run that weren't in their respective ballots during November elections.  This means the GOP in the case of trump cannot put somebody in his place.

They should probably establish a slightly different order of succession to exclude anybody appointed by the illegitimate president.

Finally, all judicial nominees are automatically out.  The speaker of the house, now president, can choose to renominate them but they have to go through congressional approval.

We need this mechanism desperately, as well as new non-electronic voting machines and election system to prevent this from happening again.
 
2017-09-18 09:19:02 PM  
Baby, that ship has sailed.
 
2017-09-18 09:23:20 PM  

rga184: no new people can run that weren't in their respective ballots during November elections


I wouldn't like this. An election should be an election not a do-over. Any eligible person capable of running should be allowed to run.
 
2017-09-18 09:23:39 PM  

LordJiro: We know that Russia interfered on behalf of Trump.
We know that members of the Trump campaign have had shiatloads of undisclosed meetings and contacts with Russia.
We know that our electronic voting machines have absolutely shiatty security, that hackers easily bypassed in tests.
We know that Russia at least triedto access sensitive election data in multiple states, and succeeded, to some extent, in at least a couple.
We know that Donald Trump lost the popular vote by millions, but 'won' the electoral college by a relative handful of votes, spread across several key states...exactly how someone would rig an election if they didn't want to make it too obvious.

Yeah, the facts point to things being a little shady, at best. The question is, what if it DOES turn out that the President of the United States was the 'victor' of a fraudulent election that he helped rig? It'd be a Constitutional crisis like we've never seen, especially since his entire campaign, and a good chunk of the GOP, could potentially be complicit.


We already had that with Bush v Gore, if you believe that the Diebold voting machines were suspect (and you should because they were) and that went to the SCotUS for a complete nonsense decision that did not set precedent (becase the tortured logic would overturn pretty much every election, ever), which is contrary to the whole point of the SCotUS, but got the politically desired results.  America heaved a sigh and then watched sportsball and reality TV some more.  D2S could have a Fraud Log to rival Sideshow Bob's and post the whole thing on the internet and nothing will happen.  The govenment no longer represents you and has pretty much stopped pretending to since this century began.  I really don't know how the US will ever become a just and fair nation again short of utterly falling apart and then rebuilding after the worst of the Mad Max era ends.  No amount of outrage seems to move the government officials who CAN do anything to fix things to do so and even then they are outnumbered by the government officials who had no ethics to begin with and are only there to loot.  Which is why I live in Canada now.
 
2017-09-18 09:26:24 PM  
 
2017-09-18 09:26:36 PM  

Snarfangel: Republicans don't want Clinton, and Democrats and sane people don't want Trump.

I say we go for a Romney/Biden unity ticket.


"the other party doesn't want the other part to win"

that's literally every election ever

hope you feel like a genius pointing that out.

wish there was a no shiat dumb ass button.
 
2017-09-18 09:26:51 PM  
So... She's saying that if the election turns out to have been illegitimate, it's ok to question its legitimacy? And people have a problem with this?
 
2017-09-18 09:27:34 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: rga184: no new people can run that weren't in their respective ballots during November elections

I wouldn't like this. An election should be an election not a do-over. Any eligible person capable of running should be allowed to run.


Prescriptively, I'd suggest a 30 day period to meet each state's eligibility requirements and election held 30 days hence. 6 months is too long, IMO.
 
2017-09-18 09:30:13 PM  
She's right you know...
 
2017-09-18 09:33:01 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: rga184: no new people can run that weren't in their respective ballots during November elections

I wouldn't like this. An election should be an election not a do-over. Any eligible person capable of running should be allowed to run.


LOL, I demand an entirely new election with none of the previous candidates.
 
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