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(FOX6Now)   Woman who vandalized Wall Street's famed bull statue "chose the corn oil and chalk specifically because they wouldn't cause any harm," hoping it "would therefore not be perceived as an act of vandalism"   ( fox6now.com) divider line
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2017-09-16 08:13:43 PM  
They are actively looking for reasons to demonize protesters, they'll call ANYTHING vandalism (at least, if not terrorism).

They want to call protesters "terrorists" to fill their "both sides are bad, and the left is worse" narrative.  I've seen so many right-wingers screaming that the left wing in the US are avowed communists out to create a full-on Marxist revolution in the US.  Their proof?  Some posts by "Antifa" twitter accounts and Facebook pages of dubious provenance, things a few speakers said at OWS ~6 years ago, and anything bad that anybody ever does to/about Wall Street. . .which the right wing views as sacrilege against God's Very Own Capitalism.
 
2017-09-16 09:53:55 PM  
Oh dear, imagine how many five year old little girls we will need to arrest for vandalising public sidewalks.  If rain will wash it off, it shouldn't be vandalism.
 
2017-09-16 09:54:55 PM  
That.... doesn't seem equivilent.

More like "let me piss on your car"
 
2017-09-16 09:57:48 PM  
I do not approve of vandalism, but if you  are going to do it then do not do a half-arsed job of it!
 
2017-09-16 09:58:48 PM  

Silverstaff: They are actively looking for reasons to demonize protesters, they'll call ANYTHING vandalism (at least, if not terrorism).

They want to call protesters "terrorists" to fill their "both sides are bad, and the left is worse" narrative.  I've seen so many right-wingers screaming that the left wing in the US are avowed communists out to create a full-on Marxist revolution in the US.  Their proof?  Some posts by "Antifa" twitter accounts and Facebook pages of dubious provenance, things a few speakers said at OWS ~6 years ago, and anything bad that anybody ever does to/about Wall Street. . .which the right wing views as sacrilege against God's Very Own Capitalism.


When Milo was going to speak at Berkeley, the antifa protestors trashed businesses and cars.  That's vandalism.

They physically assaulted people at random to promote their own politics.  That might meet the definition of terrorism.

As for the communist accusation.  Many of those Berkeley protesters/rioters are  members of the Workers World Party, which is about as hardcore communist as you can get.
 
2017-09-16 10:00:26 PM  
I thought vandalism was ok as long as you say you're a lefty
 
2017-09-16 10:06:50 PM  
Just stop making up bs to get away with something. Lock her up!!
 
2017-09-16 10:06:51 PM  
Mao was right, liberalism is wack af.
 
2017-09-16 10:06:56 PM  
I was at a public meeting once where a protester threw a bucket of blood (forget what kind--cow, maybe) all over a rep from the state government. She was arrested, of course. When it came time to charge her, they tried to go for assault with a deadly weapon, because she used blood--might be dangerous. If she'd used water, it would be a different story.

In the end she just got simple assault, but you know, be careful what you're doing in your protests. If you're carrying a stick with a poster on it, and get into an altercation, that stick is a weapon, and that's a felony.
 
2017-09-16 10:07:01 PM  
It was vandalism. Chick's a moron.
 
2017-09-16 10:08:25 PM  

cryinoutloud: I was at a public meeting once where a protester threw a bucket of blood (forget what kind--cow, maybe) all over a rep from the state government.



Why? wouldn't they enjoy this?
 
2017-09-16 10:10:07 PM  

Silverstaff: They are actively looking for reasons to demonize protesters, they'll call ANYTHING vandalism (at least, if not terrorism).

They want to call protesters "terrorists" to fill their "both sides are bad, and the left is worse" narrative.  I've seen so many right-wingers screaming that the left wing in the US are avowed communists out to create a full-on Marxist revolution in the US.  Their proof?  Some posts by "Antifa" twitter accounts and Facebook pages of dubious provenance, things a few speakers said at OWS ~6 years ago, and anything bad that anybody ever does to/about Wall Street. . .which the right wing views as sacrilege against God's Very Own Capitalism.


You'd be the first person calling the cops if someone came to your house and started writing on it with chalk.
 
2017-09-16 10:10:19 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: It was vandalism. Chick's a moron.


Well, to be fair, the statue was originally an act of vandalism, so it all balances out.
 
2017-09-16 10:10:20 PM  

Donald_McRonald: cryinoutloud: I was at a public meeting once where a protester threw a bucket of blood (forget what kind--cow, maybe) all over a rep from the state government.


Why? wouldn't they enjoy this?


I know, right? That's usually an extra $20 in Reno.
 
2017-09-16 10:12:11 PM  

cryinoutloud: In the end she just got simple assault, but you know, be careful what you're doing in your protests. If you're carrying a stick with a poster on it, and get into an altercation, that stick is a weapon, and that's a felony.


Some of the antifa people attached their signs to baseball bats so they have ready weapons.  One antifa asshole was arrested after she used a flag pole with a protruding nail to attack a police horse.  These people are going the extra mile for serious prison time.
 
2017-09-16 10:12:17 PM  
Okay, so what damage was done to the statue, again?
 
2017-09-16 10:15:13 PM  
If it did not do any damage or require repainting/heavy duty cleaning or something then it is not vandalism. Vandalism absolutely implies damage.
 
2017-09-16 10:15:29 PM  

Silverstaff: They are actively looking for reasons to demonize protesters, they'll call ANYTHING vandalism (at least, if not terrorism).


vandalism:  willful or malicious destruction or defacement of public or private property

So, yeah, it was vandalism.  She defaced the statue.
 
2017-09-16 10:15:43 PM  
As for this particular case.  A few bucks fine and community service to clean up her mess, which should take about 10 minutes.
 
2017-09-16 10:16:56 PM  

Mock26: Silverstaff: They are actively looking for reasons to demonize protesters, they'll call ANYTHING vandalism (at least, if not terrorism).

vandalism:  willful or malicious destruction or defacement of public or private property

So, yeah, it was vandalism.  She defaced the statue.


So if you draped a flag over a statue it would be vandalism? Where is your line?

If it washes off with water it sodding is not vandalism.
 
2017-09-16 10:21:13 PM  

gaspode: Mock26: Silverstaff: They are actively looking for reasons to demonize protesters, they'll call ANYTHING vandalism (at least, if not terrorism).

vandalism:  willful or malicious destruction or defacement of public or private property

So, yeah, it was vandalism.  She defaced the statue.

So if you draped a flag over a statue it would be vandalism? Where is your line?

If it washes off with water it sodding is not vandalism.


The flag would be littering.

Defacing something is still vandalism. Just because something's water soluble doesn't mean it may not leave a stain anyway. Plus someone has to clean it up.

Piss also washes off with water. But yet we're just not allowed to piss where we want.
 
2017-09-16 10:21:15 PM  

gaspode: So if you draped a flag over a statue it would be vandalism? Where is your line?

If it washes off with water it sodding is not vandalism.


Feels like the "mischief" charge would be appropriate in this case.
 
2017-09-16 10:21:48 PM  
I tried studying journalism like half a decade ago and covered an OWS protest for an assignment. It kind of soured me to the cause. A bunch of people who live with their parents or on the street yelling into a branch bank at the tellers about the evils of their employers is not going to win over people with mediocre jobs and possibly kids who probably have the schlep in from the Bronx or Jersey or whatever.

The cops were big dicks to me, one ran into me with his gay little scooter, even though I was only writing notes and talking to people, not chanting slogans or participating in any way. That's not news though.

/csb
 
2017-09-16 10:25:16 PM  

Army dude: Silverstaff: They are actively looking for reasons to demonize protesters, they'll call ANYTHING vandalism (at least, if not terrorism).

They want to call protesters "terrorists" to fill their "both sides are bad, and the left is worse" narrative.  I've seen so many right-wingers screaming that the left wing in the US are avowed communists out to create a full-on Marxist revolution in the US.  Their proof?  Some posts by "Antifa" twitter accounts and Facebook pages of dubious provenance, things a few speakers said at OWS ~6 years ago, and anything bad that anybody ever does to/about Wall Street. . .which the right wing views as sacrilege against God's Very Own Capitalism.

You'd be the first person calling the cops if someone came to your house and started writing on it with chalk.


I have chalk on my house right now, thanks to my daughter.  If someone else was chalking my house, I would call the police for trespassing.  If they chalked and run, I wouldn't call unless the words were a threat.  Then I'd call due to the threat, not due to chalk, which I would just his off or wait for the rain.
 
2017-09-16 10:25:29 PM  

trialpha: gaspode: So if you draped a flag over a statue it would be vandalism? Where is your line?

If it washes off with water it sodding is not vandalism.

Feels like the "mischief" charge would be appropriate in this case.


Honestly? Putting chalk on a bronze statue in a public street is never something for which a 'charge' should even be discussed.

This sort of harmless protest is a cornerstone of a free society.
 
2017-09-16 10:29:26 PM  

ChuckRoddy: Piss also washes off with water.


Not completely.  If that it were that easy, the financial district of San Francisco wouldn't smell like an out house all the time.
 
2017-09-16 10:32:25 PM  

OgreMagi: ChuckRoddy: Piss also washes off with water.

Not completely.  If that it were that easy, the financial district of San Francisco wouldn't smell like an out house all the time.


FTFY
 
2017-09-16 10:34:59 PM  
Its OK to vandalize things as long as the things belong to people you are mad at.
 
2017-09-16 10:41:22 PM  
"Well I am going to make a statement!" "Oh but I don't want to make too much of a statement." " I am going to make sure my message gets out there!" "Unless it rains and my message is washed away."
 
2017-09-16 10:41:50 PM  
Man, old white guys are f*cking pussys.
 
2017-09-16 10:43:17 PM  

OgreMagi: Silverstaff: They are actively looking for reasons to demonize protesters, they'll call ANYTHING vandalism (at least, if not terrorism).

They want to call protesters "terrorists" to fill their "both sides are bad, and the left is worse" narrative.  I've seen so many right-wingers screaming that the left wing in the US are avowed communists out to create a full-on Marxist revolution in the US.  Their proof?  Some posts by "Antifa" twitter accounts and Facebook pages of dubious provenance, things a few speakers said at OWS ~6 years ago, and anything bad that anybody ever does to/about Wall Street. . .which the right wing views as sacrilege against God's Very Own Capitalism.

When Milo was going to speak at Berkeley, the antifa protestors trashed businesses and cars.  That's vandalism.

They physically assaulted people at random to promote their own politics.  That might meet the definition of terrorism.

As for the communist accusation.  Many of those Berkeley protesters/rioters are  members of the Workers World Party, which is about as hardcore communist as you can get.


I wonder if maybe both side have some good point along with the balance if bad?
 
2017-09-16 10:43:41 PM  

mikaloyd: Its OK to vandalize things as long as the things belong to people you are mad at.


You missed the bottom of the boot, bro.
 
2017-09-16 10:45:59 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: OgreMagi: ChuckRoddy: Piss also washes off with water.

Not completely.  If that it were that easy, the financial district of San Francisco wouldn't smell like an out house all the time.

FTFY


Ah, you've been there.  I stand corrected.
 
2017-09-16 10:48:28 PM  

Mock26: I do not approve of vandalism, but if you  are going to do it then do not do a half-arsed job of it!


The Fearless Girl staue next to the bull is great vandalism. The street it is bolted to will never be the same.
 
2017-09-16 10:50:53 PM  

gaspode: Honestly? Putting chalk on a bronze statue in a public street is never something for which a 'charge' should even be discussed.

This sort of harmless protest is a cornerstone of a free society.


You need to have at least some sort of penalty, otherwise you're going to end up with large amounts of public property covered in chalk, every day, because of trolls.
 
2017-09-16 10:55:29 PM  
Know who else worshipped bovine images?
 
2017-09-16 10:56:42 PM  
I visited NYC a few week ago for work and stayed very near to the charging bull statue so I walked past it most days.  The thing I noticed was that if you look at the bull's face it's actually smiling a little bit.  Like it's proud of the little girl standing up defiantly to it.  Also that thing's got some big brass balls and people loved getting their picture with the nuts as much as the front.
 
2017-09-16 10:57:04 PM  

vudukungfu: Know who else worshipped bovine images?


You mean Mooby?

He'll yeah I want an EggaMoobymuffin.
 
2017-09-16 10:59:54 PM  
The janitor at one of my former museums used to draw on foamboard text panels with a pen until we caught him. He thought that damaging replaceable foamboard would not be a big deal, since it was not an artifact and thus not causing harm.
 
2017-09-16 11:01:50 PM  

gaspode: trialpha: gaspode: So if you draped a flag over a statue it would be vandalism? Where is your line?

If it washes off with water it sodding is not vandalism.

Feels like the "mischief" charge would be appropriate in this case.

Honestly? Putting chalk on a bronze statue in a public street is never something for which a 'charge' should even be discussed.

This sort of harmless protest is a cornerstone of a free society.


Chalk itself causes abrasion, which causes slight but irreversible damage each time; removal takes time and materials, which causes monetary loss to the people responsible for statues.
 
2017-09-16 11:04:29 PM  

rebelyell2006: gaspode: trialpha: gaspode: So if you draped a flag over a statue it would be vandalism? Where is your line?

If it washes off with water it sodding is not vandalism.

Feels like the "mischief" charge would be appropriate in this case.

Honestly? Putting chalk on a bronze statue in a public street is never something for which a 'charge' should even be discussed.

This sort of harmless protest is a cornerstone of a free society.

Chalk itself causes abrasion, which causes slight but irreversible damage each time; removal takes time and materials, which causes monetary loss to the people responsible for statues.


lol oh fark off.
 
2017-09-16 11:06:06 PM  

gaspode: rebelyell2006: gaspode: trialpha: gaspode: So if you draped a flag over a statue it would be vandalism? Where is your line?

If it washes off with water it sodding is not vandalism.

Feels like the "mischief" charge would be appropriate in this case.

Honestly? Putting chalk on a bronze statue in a public street is never something for which a 'charge' should even be discussed.

This sort of harmless protest is a cornerstone of a free society.

Chalk itself causes abrasion, which causes slight but irreversible damage each time; removal takes time and materials, which causes monetary loss to the people responsible for statues.

lol oh fark off.


I preserve artifacts for a living. Chalk is abrasive, and repeated application will cause damage.
 
2017-09-16 11:08:02 PM  

rebelyell2006: gaspode: trialpha: gaspode: So if you draped a flag over a statue it would be vandalism? Where is your line?

If it washes off with water it sodding is not vandalism.

Feels like the "mischief" charge would be appropriate in this case.

Honestly? Putting chalk on a bronze statue in a public street is never something for which a 'charge' should even be discussed.

This sort of harmless protest is a cornerstone of a free society.

Chalk itself causes abrasion, which causes slight but irreversible damage each time; removal takes time and materials, which causes monetary loss to the people responsible for statues.


Freidrich Mohs says you don't know what your talking about.
 
2017-09-16 11:08:05 PM  

OgreMagi: Madman drummers bummers: OgreMagi: ChuckRoddy: Piss also washes off with water.

Not completely.  If that it were that easy, the financial district of San Francisco wouldn't smell like an out house all the time.

FTFY

Ah, you've been there.  I stand corrected.


A few times, yeah, and I've walked around it a bit - can't say I've been everywhere, but in some places you really have to watch where you step. Beautiful city, really, but for that.
 
2017-09-16 11:11:28 PM  

rebelyell2006: I preserve artifacts for a living. Chalk is abrasive, and repeated application will cause damage.


Ahh, sad.

That poor monument to rampant capitalism that has driven a wedge throughout our entire nation might get chalk damage?

*gasp*

Order a new one, put it on our tab.
 
2017-09-16 11:13:16 PM  

rebelyell2006: gaspode: rebelyell2006: gaspode: trialpha: gaspode: So if you draped a flag over a statue it would be vandalism? Where is your line?

If it washes off with water it sodding is not vandalism.

Feels like the "mischief" charge would be appropriate in this case.

Honestly? Putting chalk on a bronze statue in a public street is never something for which a 'charge' should even be discussed.

This sort of harmless protest is a cornerstone of a free society.

Chalk itself causes abrasion, which causes slight but irreversible damage each time; removal takes time and materials, which causes monetary loss to the people responsible for statues.

lol oh fark off.

I preserve artifacts for a living. Chalk is abrasive, and repeated application will cause damage.


For a statue out in the elements all the time, I don't think a little chalk is anything to worry about.
 
2017-09-16 11:15:23 PM  

SomeGeologist: rebelyell2006: gaspode: trialpha: gaspode: So if you draped a flag over a statue it would be vandalism? Where is your line?

If it washes off with water it sodding is not vandalism.

Feels like the "mischief" charge would be appropriate in this case.

Honestly? Putting chalk on a bronze statue in a public street is never something for which a 'charge' should even be discussed.

This sort of harmless protest is a cornerstone of a free society.

Chalk itself causes abrasion, which causes slight but irreversible damage each time; removal takes time and materials, which causes monetary loss to the people responsible for statues.

Freidrich Mohs says you don't know what your talking about.


Soft particles can be abrasive, because the Mohs scale determines how likely a material can be scratched, not how likely it is to scratch something else. Sodium bicarbonate has a very low Mohs scale rating, but it is excellent for brushing teeth because it scrubs and abrades.
 
2017-09-16 11:16:21 PM  

OgreMagi: rebelyell2006: gaspode: rebelyell2006: gaspode: trialpha: gaspode: So if you draped a flag over a statue it would be vandalism? Where is your line?

If it washes off with water it sodding is not vandalism.

Feels like the "mischief" charge would be appropriate in this case.

Honestly? Putting chalk on a bronze statue in a public street is never something for which a 'charge' should even be discussed.

This sort of harmless protest is a cornerstone of a free society.

Chalk itself causes abrasion, which causes slight but irreversible damage each time; removal takes time and materials, which causes monetary loss to the people responsible for statues.

lol oh fark off.

I preserve artifacts for a living. Chalk is abrasive, and repeated application will cause damage.

For a statue out in the elements all the time, I don't think a little chalk is anything to worry about.


Once, no. But multiple times, yes, especially when combined with air pollution and other environmental factors.
 
2017-09-16 11:19:48 PM  

rebelyell2006: gaspode: rebelyell2006: gaspode: trialpha: gaspode: So if you draped a flag over a statue it would be vandalism? Where is your line?

If it washes off with water it sodding is not vandalism.

Feels like the "mischief" charge would be appropriate in this case.

Honestly? Putting chalk on a bronze statue in a public street is never something for which a 'charge' should even be discussed.

This sort of harmless protest is a cornerstone of a free society.

Chalk itself causes abrasion, which causes slight but irreversible damage each time; removal takes time and materials, which causes monetary loss to the people responsible for statues.

lol oh fark off.

I preserve artifacts for a living. Chalk is abrasive, and repeated application will cause damage.


Thank god the bull is kept in the hermetic environment of a busy street outdoors in NYC, or it might get damaged otherwise.
 
2017-09-16 11:21:28 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: rebelyell2006: gaspode: rebelyell2006: gaspode: trialpha: gaspode: So if you draped a flag over a statue it would be vandalism? Where is your line?

If it washes off with water it sodding is not vandalism.

Feels like the "mischief" charge would be appropriate in this case.

Honestly? Putting chalk on a bronze statue in a public street is never something for which a 'charge' should even be discussed.

This sort of harmless protest is a cornerstone of a free society.

Chalk itself causes abrasion, which causes slight but irreversible damage each time; removal takes time and materials, which causes monetary loss to the people responsible for statues.

lol oh fark off.

I preserve artifacts for a living. Chalk is abrasive, and repeated application will cause damage.

Thank god the bull is kept in the hermetic environment of a busy street outdoors in NYC, or it might get damaged otherwise.


A thousand papercuts over a lifetime can kill someone. Which papercut was the killing blow?
 
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