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(NBC News)   After a court orders the Trump administration to release the names of all visitors to Mar-a-Lago, the White House claims that the only people to visit in the last year were all part of the Japanese president's entourage   ( nbcnews.com) divider line
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2017-09-15 04:27:12 PM  
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2017-09-15 04:55:31 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]


Wait.  Is he kidding?? He can't even give them a government rate????? Fark Donald.
 
2017-09-15 05:11:43 PM  
"Uh, we can't release that due to it involving his schedule"

Yeah, asshole, we know. That's the whole damn point.
 
2017-09-15 05:16:25 PM  
"When all is said and done the Trump administration will be remembered as the most corrupt and secretive administration in American history,"

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two scoops and the rest of the family/ hangers-on are a criminal organization. Several already deserve to be Mussolini-ed through the streets. But w/out Don Jr waking up one morning and deciding he's had enough of his abusive, disgusting father's shiat and rolling on the whole crew or someone squeezing off a shot, there will be no punishment for their crimes.
 
2017-09-15 05:18:16 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]


This counts as profiteering, yes? Bribery? Extortion? Something?
 
2017-09-15 05:21:14 PM  
Remember all the wailing and gnashing about Clinton's guests who stayed in the Lincoln Bedroom?

Good times...
 
2017-09-15 05:47:07 PM  
I'm pretty sure he also had the Chinese president there. I recall hearing about beautiful chocolate cake.
 
2017-09-15 06:02:28 PM  

somedude210: Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]

This counts as profiteering, yes? Bribery? Extortion? Something?


Only in civilized nations.
 
2017-09-15 06:03:13 PM  
Ignoring court orders does not make things go away.
 
2017-09-15 06:04:05 PM  
Remember that movie "Married to the Mob"? This is "Predisented by the Mob".
 
2017-09-15 06:04:46 PM  
This self-professed "Law and Order Guy" really hates the judicial branch of government, doesn't he?
 
2017-09-15 06:07:48 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]


Does that come with free breakfast?
 
2017-09-15 06:07:50 PM  

somedude210: This counts as profiteering, yes? Bribery? Extortion? Something?


No, MAGA.
 
2017-09-15 06:08:31 PM  

Miss5280: Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]

Wait.  Is he kidding?? He can't even give them a government rate????? Fark Donald.


It amuses me that you apparently believe "government rates" to be lower.
 
2017-09-15 06:10:59 PM  

Miss5280: Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]

Wait.  Is he kidding?? He can't even give them a government rate????? Fark Donald.


Honestly I'd be surprised if he did not make the tax payers pay for full membership for each and ever SS man and foreign guest to visit.
 
2017-09-15 06:12:08 PM  
But her emails ...
 
2017-09-15 06:12:58 PM  

mcreadyblue: Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]

Does that come with free breakfast?


Guests only get one scoop of raisins in their breakfast bran.
 
2017-09-15 06:18:20 PM  

Ambivalence: I'm pretty sure he also had the Chinese president there. I recall hearing about beautiful chocolate cake.


It was a cake as beautiful as any you've ever seen.  It was as if angels baked it.
 
2017-09-15 06:18:22 PM  

somedude210: Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]

This counts as profiteering, yes? Bribery? Extortion? Something?


You really think this man has avoided jail time, or sued into poverty, for this long by chance? I'm sure he has plenty of lawyers telling him what he can and can't do
 
2017-09-15 06:19:42 PM  
Almost time for another vacation!
 
2017-09-15 06:21:13 PM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Ambivalence: I'm pretty sure he also had the Chinese president there. I recall hearing about beautiful chocolate cake.

It was a cake as beautiful as any you've ever seen.  It was as if angels baked it.


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2017-09-15 06:21:40 PM  
Benghazi!

And if that doesn't work...um...Bill Clinton on the golf course?
 
2017-09-15 06:22:11 PM  
Hey now! Rules and laws are for ordinary people, not the farking Don!

/wish I was kidding
//this bastard is disgusting
 
2017-09-15 06:22:25 PM  
I'm quite confident the secret service knows who went where, at least. Also, if the FBI gives a fark, they have every one of his properties under surveillance.
 
2017-09-15 06:25:29 PM  
There's no law or some such as.
 
2017-09-15 06:26:19 PM  

DubyaHater: somedude210: Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]

This counts as profiteering, yes? Bribery? Extortion? Something?

You really think this man has avoided jail time, or sued into poverty, for this long by chance? I'm sure he has plenty of lawyers telling him what he can and can't do


I think he's avoided jail time mostly by having more money to throw at lawyers than the people he screws over have, by buying off politicians when necessary, and by paying settlements when he can't delay and spam lawyers at the problem.

It's not like he wins all of his court cases by any means. He doesn't listen to his lawyers typically it seems.
 
2017-09-15 06:26:48 PM  
Though the Obama administration was praised for its transparency when it began releasing the logs in 2009, the records could be incomplete with names redacted for various reasons - a practice the Trump White House called out as "faux" transparency while arguing their own logs should be kept secret due to "grave national security risks and privacy concerns" of White House visitors.

It's okay when we do it!
 
2017-09-15 06:28:57 PM  

somedude210: Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]

This counts as profiteering, yes? Bribery? Extortion? Something?


Actually, no.  Trump could choose to make the rooms free for the government, but if he charges (which he also is entitled to do - or more precisely the company that owns the resort is entitled to do), he has to charge the normal rate.  Charging less is considered an attempt to bribe the government by presenting something of value at below cost.
 
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2017-09-15 06:29:31 PM  
He's turning the federal government into a corrupt Russian oligarchy complete with all their flat out lies, as opposed the usual American oligarchy that tactfully uses half truths.

/I like the American oligarchy better.
 
2017-09-15 06:29:32 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: I'm quite confident the secret service knows who went where, at least. Also, if the FBI gives a fark, they have every one of his properties under surveillance.


So why would they ask if they alre...

Oh.
 
2017-09-15 06:30:57 PM  
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2017-09-15 06:34:20 PM  

phalamir: somedude210: Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]

This counts as profiteering, yes? Bribery? Extortion? Something?

Actually, no.  Trump could choose to make the rooms free for the government, but if he charges (which he also is entitled to do - or more precisely the company that owns the resort is entitled to do), he has to charge the normal rate.  Charging less is considered an attempt to bribe the government by presenting something of value at below cost.


that normally is in relation to a private company offering the room. Not a company owned by the damn president. Not only is he using his own hotel as his weekend white house, but he's directly benefiting monetarily from it.
 
2017-09-15 06:34:29 PM  
He can't do it because all those Russian names are hard to spell.
 
2017-09-15 06:41:58 PM  

somedude210: phalamir: somedude210: Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]

This counts as profiteering, yes? Bribery? Extortion? Something?

Actually, no.  Trump could choose to make the rooms free for the government, but if he charges (which he also is entitled to do - or more precisely the company that owns the resort is entitled to do), he has to charge the normal rate.  Charging less is considered an attempt to bribe the government by presenting something of value at below cost.

that normally is in relation to a private company offering the room. Not a company owned by the damn president. Not only is he using his own hotel as his weekend white house, but he's directly benefiting monetarily from it.


(1) Even if its himself, he is required to do it.
(2) He's not directly benefitting.  His company is.  I realize that as a practical matter, they are not seperate, but legally they are two different entities.
 
2017-09-15 06:47:01 PM  

skyotter: This self-professed "Law and Order Guy" really hates the judicial branch of government, doesn't he?


To him and his supporters "law and order" just means killing people of color.
 
2017-09-15 06:54:53 PM  

edmo: Ignoring court orders does not make things go away.


Yeah, but once again, who enforces that? They aren't gonna send a beat cop to serve a warrant.
 
2017-09-15 06:57:28 PM  
Isn't this one of those things where a Google search should give proof that they're full of it?

That's another thing that bothers me about this administration: they won't even go through the effort of lying properly and were supposed to accept that the media and legislative aren't going to do anything.
 
2017-09-15 06:57:38 PM  

phalamir: somedude210: Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]

This counts as profiteering, yes? Bribery? Extortion? Something?

Actually, no.  Trump could choose to make the rooms free for the government, but if he charges (which he also is entitled to do - or more precisely the company that owns the resort is entitled to do), he has to charge the normal rate.  Charging less is considered an attempt to bribe the government by presenting something of value at below cost.


That doesn't make sense - hotels having a lower-priced government rate is a standard thing. And this case, why would Trump need to bribe himself?
 
2017-09-15 07:04:04 PM  

Rannuci: That doesn't make sense - hotels having a lower-priced government rate is a standard thing. And this case, why would Trump need to bribe himself?


He wouldn't, it's that he's taking in the money.  he's collecting money from the taxpayers.
 
2017-09-15 07:05:15 PM  
 Did anyone seriously think he was kidding when he said he could get away with shooting someone on 5th avenue?
 Until someone in Washington has the guts to press for a prosecution of that entire junta, they will all do as they please.   It will be really bad for everyone if it comes down to forcefully taking him and his gang out of power.  Historically that never worked out well for anyone, though sometimes the nation in question was able to recover after a generation or two.
 
2017-09-15 07:07:48 PM  

skyotter: This self-professed "Law and Order Guy" really hates the judicial branch of government, doesn't he?


If you had his record of court losses, wouldn't you?
 
2017-09-15 07:08:05 PM  
Your homework is incomplete and you also handed it in late:
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2017-09-15 07:08:40 PM  
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2017-09-15 07:08:48 PM  
I hope they find Duke in contempt and jail her ass until she coughs up the complete list.
 
2017-09-15 07:12:00 PM  

edmo: Ignoring court orders does not make things go away.


They will if Trump pardons everyone involved.
 
2017-09-15 07:17:53 PM  
Ha!  Another crafty dodge by our pork-faced pharaoh!

Demigods do not deign to acknowledge the pathetic demands of any judicial system.

Rather, Spam-Skin the Beatific will crumple our institutions, lob them into the atmosphere, and blast them from the skies with his manly issue.
 
2017-09-15 07:18:25 PM  

Miss5280: Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]

Wait.  Is he kidding?? He can't even give them a government rate????? Fark Donald.


Are you insane? You're asking Trumpy to pay himself LESS???
 
2017-09-15 07:31:40 PM  

sirrerun: Miss5280: Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]

Wait.  Is he kidding?? He can't even give them a government rate????? Fark Donald.

It amuses me that you apparently believe "government rates" to be lower.


The 2017 GSA lodging rate for Palm Springs, FL is $182/night.
 
2017-09-15 07:49:06 PM  

real_headhoncho: [img.fark.net image 634x423]


That's offensive to Spider Jerusalem.

In fact, this entire administration is offensive to Spider Jerusalem.
 
2017-09-15 07:53:24 PM  

Rannuci: phalamir: somedude210: Soup4Bonnie: [img.fark.net image 586x515]

This counts as profiteering, yes? Bribery? Extortion? Something?

Actually, no.  Trump could choose to make the rooms free for the government, but if he charges (which he also is entitled to do - or more precisely the company that owns the resort is entitled to do), he has to charge the normal rate.  Charging less is considered an attempt to bribe the government by presenting something of value at below cost.

That doesn't make sense - hotels having a lower-priced government rate is a standard thing. And this case, why would Trump need to bribe himself?


If the resort has a government rate, he's welcome to charge it, but he can't just make up a new rate specifically for the SS.  Trump - despite his personal views - is not the government.  He can't bribe any part of it, including his security.    And the point is to have a bright-line standard, not to endlessly debate the particulars.  Anything that meets the definition of a bribe is a bribe, even if in this particular case it is benefiting Trump to not bribe the government.  Clinton had to something similar with her campaign having to pay to use her foundation's jet, even though the money simply cycled back to where it started.  The intent is to prevent people from bribing government workers by giving them free or below cost goodies, like having the FDA inspector stay at your hotel for $3 when they are checking on you; instead they pay full rate (or at least full government rate) like anyone else.  It is considered better to deal with the absurdities of campaigns and the SS than to start making carve-outs that inevitably lead to so many caveats that openly giving the inspector uncut blood diamonds is not only perfectly legal, but mandated by law.
 
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