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(The New York Times)   Trump: Remember when I said that both sides are to blame for Charlottesville then walked that back to one side, the Nazis, are to blame? Well, both sides are to blame again   ( nytimes.com) divider line
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2017-09-14 08:16:10 PM  
I don't get why dogs eat bees either
 
2017-09-14 08:19:38 PM  
Someday he'll find it. The brain mouth connection. The leaders, the thinkers and heee. LA LALA LALA LAAAA
 
2017-09-14 08:23:06 PM  
Ladies and Gentlemen, the POSOTUS
 
2017-09-14 08:43:35 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Ladies and Gentlemen, the POSOTUS


I dunno.  You can fertilize crops with a POS.  Trump is much less useful.
 
2017-09-14 08:47:51 PM  
He's such a piece of human garbage.

It's so easy.  Are Nazis bad?  Yes.  Are people who hate Nazis bad?  No.

There, done.
 
2017-09-14 09:02:33 PM  
does the truth hurt bad?
 
2017-09-14 09:08:52 PM  
I remember the 2004 election, where John Kerry regretting his initial support for the Iraq War made him completely unfit for office.
 
2017-09-14 09:22:47 PM  

munko: does the truth hurt bad?


What truth would that be?
 
2017-09-14 09:43:31 PM  
"Now because of what's happened since then, with Antifa, you look at really what's happened since Charlottesville - a lot of people are saying - in fact, a lot of people have actually written, 'Gee, Trump might have a point," Mr. Trump said

No. Nobody is saying that who didn't support the white supremacists already. And how would you know if people are writing it? You can't even farking read.
 
2017-09-14 09:48:35 PM  

Sgt Otter: I remember the 2004 election, where John Kerry regretting his initial support for the Iraq War made him completely unfit for office.


I remember the 2008 election, where Barack Obama possibly being a Muslim was a liability for the Oval Office.
 
2017-09-14 10:00:54 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Sgt Otter: I remember the 2004 election, where John Kerry regretting his initial support for the Iraq War made him completely unfit for office.

I remember the 2008 election, where Barack Obama possibly being a Muslim was a liability for the Oval Office.


Remember the 2016 election we're we'd be faced with getting a irrational women with ties to big business and poor impulse control in the White House.
 
2017-09-14 10:30:05 PM  

optikeye: Bith Set Me Up: Sgt Otter: I remember the 2004 election, where John Kerry regretting his initial support for the Iraq War made him completely unfit for office.

I remember the 2008 election, where Barack Obama possibly being a Muslim was a liability for the Oval Office.

Remember the 2016 election we're we'd be faced with getting a irrational women with ties to big business and poor impulse control in the White House.


She had the flu! She was a few coughs away from killing us all!
 
2017-09-15 12:39:01 AM  
I never thought I'd long for the eloquent intellectualism of Dan Quayle.
 
2017-09-15 12:41:56 AM  

HighOnCraic: optikeye: Bith Set Me Up: Sgt Otter: I remember the 2004 election, where John Kerry regretting his initial support for the Iraq War made him completely unfit for office.

I remember the 2008 election, where Barack Obama possibly being a Muslim was a liability for the Oval Office.

Remember the 2016 election we're we'd be faced with getting a irrational women with ties to big business and poor impulse control in the White House.

She had the flu! She was a few coughs away from killing us all!


That's because Obama gave everyone ebola in 2014.
 
2017-09-15 12:42:42 AM  

dantheman195: He never said both sides, he said all sides, NYT had to write a retraction a week or so about this.


The retraction was written on both the front and back sides of the paper, not all sides. They owe us an apology for the retraction!
 
2017-09-15 12:42:51 AM  
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2017-09-15 12:42:55 AM  
I suppose this means Bannon talked to him just before he said this.
 
2017-09-15 12:47:42 AM  
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2017-09-15 12:47:56 AM  

scottydoesntknow: munko: does the truth hurt bad?

What truth would that be?


That the people who hate nazis are the REAL nazis, duh!
 
2017-09-15 12:47:59 AM  
The timing on this is my question.  What is coming out tomorrow?
There was no farking reason whatsoever to bring this back up like this.  Say you had a nice meeting with the guy and down with bad stuff and call it a farking day, but nope.
He had to farking double down quadruple late.  What the fark.
 
2017-09-15 12:48:10 AM  
so on one 'side' we've got people who believe diversity is a good thing and that everyone should be treated equally.  on the other 'side' we've got people who believe life would be awesome if we just murdered all the jews, gays and non-christians in existence.

hmm.

one of these things is not like the other.
 
2017-09-15 12:48:56 AM  
shiat's just random at this point broskis.  Nobody is at the helm, it's amazing to watch.
 
2017-09-15 12:49:20 AM  
"You agree with me, don'tya boy?"

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2017-09-15 12:49:33 AM  
Not sure if Doonsberry depicts him as himself, a wad of cash, or just a two faced coin.

All I know is I am getting tired of the flip-flopping and contradiction
 
2017-09-15 12:49:41 AM  

dantheman195: WalkingCarpet: He's such a piece of human garbage.

It's so easy.  Are Nazis bad?  Yes.  Are people who hate Nazis bad?  No.

There, done.

Problem is, there are no longer any Nazis to hate, you can't just label people as Nazis just because you don't like em

All sides were behaving badly, that is what he said, NYT got it wrong and had to retract


All sides were wrong   Antifa/BLM are just as bad as the skinheads. 2 sides of the same coin.
 
2017-09-15 12:50:21 AM  

nijika: shiat's just random at this point broskis.  Nobody is at the helm, it's amazing to watch.


the country has been running on inertia now for at least the past 2 months.  nobody seems to be in charge anymore.  I think we're starting to slow down a bit tho.  i'm not sure what happens when trump's casual disregard for the rule of law filters down to the street level.
 
2017-09-15 12:51:50 AM  

Markoff_Cheney: The timing on this is my question.  What is coming out tomorrow?


I hope to hell it's one of those big stories WaPo has been sitting on. The forces of evil have had a pretty good week (Texas redistricting halted and travel ban reinstated, to name two).
 
2017-09-15 12:52:42 AM  

harleyquinnical: All I know is I am getting tired of the flip-flopping and contradiction


really?  because this is fascinating to watch.  trump seems unable to focus, and the Democrats are starting to realize that trump will work with them so long as they give him all the credit.  Now the GOP has an even BIGGER problem than they did 4 weeks ago.
 
2017-09-15 12:53:00 AM  
Also in a year that has meantal health as it's highlight, Trump has really outdone himself as a living testament to the dangers of untreated psychological problems.
 
2017-09-15 12:54:15 AM  

nijika: Trump has really outdone himself as a living testament to the dangers of untreated psychological problems.


there's something just not right about the guy, ya know?  he seems devoid of empathy.
 
2017-09-15 12:54:45 AM  

dantheman195: WalkingCarpet: He's such a piece of human garbage.

It's so easy.  Are Nazis bad?  Yes.  Are people who hate Nazis bad?  No.

There, done.

Problem is, there are no longer any Nazis to hate, you can't just label people as Nazis just because you don't like em

All sides were behaving badly, that is what he said, NYT got it wrong and had to retract


So......the guys waving nazi flags, chanting nazi slogans, throwing nazi salutes should be called what, exactly?
 
2017-09-15 12:58:19 AM  
Fark white nationalism.
 
2017-09-15 12:59:14 AM  

dantheman195: Problem is, there are no longer any Nazis to hate,


so people holding a nazi torchlit parade, holding nazi and white power banners and chanting LITERAL nazi slogans and openly professing nazi allegiances aren't nazis?

I don't think this is working out very well for you.
 
2017-09-15 01:00:19 AM  
I'd agree there's bad folks on both sides.

I wouldn't agree that there's good folks on both sides.

Some of the Antifa faction is closer to Clockwork Orange youth looking for any excuse to get on with some of the old ultraviolence. But there are no good Nazis or white supremacists.
 
2017-09-15 01:00:50 AM  
 
2017-09-15 01:02:39 AM  

ImpendingCynic: I hope to hell it's one of those big stories WaPo has been sitting on. The forces of evil have had a pretty good week (Texas redistricting halted and travel ban reinstated, to name two).


The redistricting thing flew under the radar like a pisser, that one was a low blow.
Trump met with the black Republican Senator guy who (aside from being the first black Senator from the south since the reconstruction) challenged his initial Charlottesville comments, and still came out with this BSAB shiat again.
I would not be surprised if something big drops.
 
2017-09-15 01:04:01 AM  

Weaver95: so on one 'side' we've got people who believe diversity is a good thing and that everyone should be treated equally.  on the other 'side' we've got people who believe life would be awesome if we just murdered all the jews, gays and non-christians in existence.

hmm.

one of these things is not like the other.


Yes, it sounds like only one side has the heathens on it, and that side has most of the browns as well. In some people's minds, that makes it the less American side.
 
2017-09-15 01:04:19 AM  

xalres: dantheman195: WalkingCarpet: He's such a piece of human garbage.

It's so easy.  Are Nazis bad?  Yes.  Are people who hate Nazis bad?  No.

There, done.

Problem is, there are no longer any Nazis to hate, you can't just label people as Nazis just because you don't like em

All sides were behaving badly, that is what he said, NYT got it wrong and had to retract

So......the guys waving nazi flags, chanting nazi slogans, throwing nazi salutes should be called what, exactly?


Fanbois?  Wannabes?

But I'm still not seeing where I ought to give their ideology any consideration at all.  If anything, these dipshiats are even less respectable than the 1940 edition.  Their goals are still genocidal, and on top of that they are ineffective.

So f*ck them twice with a rusty pitchfork.  Once for being Nazis, and a second time for being bad at it.
 
2017-09-15 01:08:03 AM  

derpes_simplex: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Ladies and Gentlemen, the POSOTUS

I dunno.  You can fertilize crops with a POS.  Trump is much less useful.


This hypothesis requires testing a.s.a.p.
 
2017-09-15 01:08:30 AM  

xalres: dantheman195: WalkingCarpet: He's such a piece of human garbage.

It's so easy.  Are Nazis bad?  Yes.  Are people who hate Nazis bad?  No.

There, done.

Problem is, there are no longer any Nazis to hate, you can't just label people as Nazis just because you don't like em

All sides were behaving badly, that is what he said, NYT got it wrong and had to retract

So......the guys waving nazi flags, chanting nazi slogans, throwing nazi salutes should be called what, exactly?


People pleasers.
 
2017-09-15 01:08:43 AM  

Bonzo_1116: xalres: dantheman195: WalkingCarpet: He's such a piece of human garbage.

It's so easy.  Are Nazis bad?  Yes.  Are people who hate Nazis bad?  No.

There, done.

Problem is, there are no longer any Nazis to hate, you can't just label people as Nazis just because you don't like em

All sides were behaving badly, that is what he said, NYT got it wrong and had to retract

So......the guys waving nazi flags, chanting nazi slogans, throwing nazi salutes should be called what, exactly?

Fanbois?  Wannabes?

But I'm still not seeing where I ought to give their ideology any consideration at all.  If anything, these dipshiats are even less respectable than the 1940 edition.  Their goals are still genocidal, and on top of that they are ineffective.

So f*ck them twice with a rusty pitchfork.  Once for being Nazis, and a second time for being bad at it.


I get that. I was just pointing out how ludicrous it is to say "You can't just call people nazis because you don't like them." when we had people marching under their banners less than a month ago.
 
2017-09-15 01:08:49 AM  

Bonzo_1116: xalres: dantheman195: WalkingCarpet: He's such a piece of human garbage.

It's so easy.  Are Nazis bad?  Yes.  Are people who hate Nazis bad?  No.

There, done.

Problem is, there are no longer any Nazis to hate, you can't just label people as Nazis just because you don't like em

All sides were behaving badly, that is what he said, NYT got it wrong and had to retract

So......the guys waving nazi flags, chanting nazi slogans, throwing nazi salutes should be called what, exactly?

Fanbois?  Wannabes?

But I'm still not seeing where I ought to give their ideology any consideration at all.  If anything, these dipshiats are even less respectable than the 1940 edition.  Their goals are still genocidal, and on top of that they are ineffective.

So f*ck them twice with a rusty pitchfork.  Once for being Nazis, and a second time for being bad at it.


Cultists.

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2017-09-15 01:11:42 AM  
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2017-09-15 01:12:15 AM  

blackminded: "You agree with me, don'tya boy?"

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God, he's starting to look frail in this picture.
 
2017-09-15 01:13:38 AM  

xalres: Bonzo_1116: xalres: dantheman195: WalkingCarpet: He's such a piece of human garbage.

It's so easy.  Are Nazis bad?  Yes.  Are people who hate Nazis bad?  No.

There, done.

Problem is, there are no longer any Nazis to hate, you can't just label people as Nazis just because you don't like em

All sides were behaving badly, that is what he said, NYT got it wrong and had to retract

So......the guys waving nazi flags, chanting nazi slogans, throwing nazi salutes should be called what, exactly?

Fanbois?  Wannabes?

But I'm still not seeing where I ought to give their ideology any consideration at all.  If anything, these dipshiats are even less respectable than the 1940 edition.  Their goals are still genocidal, and on top of that they are ineffective.

So f*ck them twice with a rusty pitchfork.  Once for being Nazis, and a second time for being bad at it.

I get that. I was just pointing out how ludicrous it is to say "You can't just call people nazis because you don't like them." when we had people marching under their banners less than a month ago.


My father has assured me that they aren't Nazis if they don't have the little moustache, no matter how they act.
I really wish I were making that up.
 
2017-09-15 01:16:27 AM  
I wonder if he watched the HRC interview tonight? That was blistering in parts?
 
2017-09-15 01:18:43 AM  
I also remember calling one out after the election that literally started shiatposting at 8:00am Moscow time.  Daily.
 
2017-09-15 01:19:31 AM  
In his remarks to reporters after the meeting, Mr. Scott made it clear he had gone to the White House to rebut Mr. Trump's claim that "both sides" were responsible. But he also said that he did not expect to change Mr. Trump's mind - and that he had not.
"He is who he has been, and I didn't go in there to change who he was," Mr. Scott said on Thursday. "I wanted to inform and educate a different perspective. I think we accomplished that. To assume that immediately thereafter he's going to have an epiphany is just unrealistic."
Mr. Trump's latest comments were a reminder that, for all the talk of a newly disciplined White House under the management of the chief of staff, John F. Kelly, the president remains an unpredictable character, with no intention of stifling his opinions.

/All Trump had to do was say something neutral to the only black Republican in the Senate, and he could have at least appeared reasonable.
//Why cling to the "both sides are bad" narrative when the white plower side actually killed someone and tried to kill lots of others?
 
2017-09-15 01:22:15 AM  

xalres: dantheman195: WalkingCarpet: He's such a piece of human garbage.

It's so easy.  Are Nazis bad?  Yes.  Are people who hate Nazis bad?  No.

There, done.

Problem is, there are no longer any Nazis to hate, you can't just label people as Nazis just because you don't like em

All sides were behaving badly, that is what he said, NYT got it wrong and had to retract

So......the guys waving nazi flags, chanting nazi slogans, throwing nazi salutes should be called what, exactly?


I'd call them neo-Nazis.

You could call the hammer-and-sickle-waving antifa or their hangers-on Soviets, but that does not quite seem accurate, does it? I don't think a bunch of bored trust fund kids wearing Che t-shirts should be arrested and interrogated as enemy agents.
 
2017-09-15 01:23:51 AM  

HighOnCraic: All Trump had to do was say something neutral to the only black Republican in the Senate, and he could have at least appeared reasonable.


I'm surprised to learn there is a black Republican in the Senate.
 
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