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(The Hill)   Spiffy: Sean Spicer finally asked point-blank if he thinks it is a dangerous thing for our country and its democracy to try to de-legitimize the free press and undermine its credibility. Sad: it took a late-night talk show host to ask the question   ( thehill.com) divider line
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2017-09-14 01:29:15 PM  
It's only sad subby if you lack faith in your country, it's laws and your fellow countrymen, er... citizens. Though only things this administration delegitimizes are the trump "brand", a work much already in progress, the ignorant rabble, rabid nationalists, racists, and many sufficiently desperate to work for this administration. Oh yeah, and likewise continuing, the Republican party, the best money and foreign propaganda could buy. shiat cyclone donald we will ride out.
 
2017-09-14 01:51:21 PM  
"I think it's a two-way street. And when these guys in the press corps go after the president in ways that are unbecoming - again, it's sort of like what your mom said, two wrongs don't make a right," said Spicer, who spent six rollercoaster months in the White House.
"I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

So.... both .... sides... are...... bad.... 

This really is the modern conservative trope.  
"Yes, we might have done something bad, but you are bad for noticing."
 
2017-09-14 01:57:37 PM  
The press corp demanding accountability for blatant lies is just fake media hating on the Liar-in-Chief. They need to stop that right now and wave a flag and shut up, let the Russian infiltration do its work on the executive and judiciary.
 
2017-09-14 03:58:28 PM  
Our fourth estate seems utterly ill-equipped to deal with a complete sociopath as President.

There are exceptions, of course, but the mainstream press seems to be content to phone it in much of the time, basically writing variations on the same old Washington trope of "Dems said, GOP said" and simply changing the names in their boilerplate story templates.

The comedians are freer to push that "balance" nonsense to the side and just call a spade a spade or say the Emperor is butt ass naked and running through the streets shouting, "Bababooey, Bababooey!".
 
2017-09-14 05:44:07 PM  
And yet Spicer wasn't called out for the BS lies he was shoveling.  Trump has no credibility to be called out upon, so saying it's the press's fault that he has none is pure BS.
 
2017-09-14 06:14:07 PM  

Urmuf Hamer: It's only sad subby if you lack faith in your country, it's laws and your fellow countrymen, er... citizens. Though only things this administration delegitimizes are the trump "brand", a work much already in progress, the ignorant rabble, rabid nationalists, racists, and many sufficiently desperate to work for this administration. Oh yeah, and likewise continuing, the Republican party, the best money and foreign propaganda could buy. shiat cyclone donald we will ride out.



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2017-09-14 06:26:56 PM  

sirrerun: Our fourth estate seems utterly ill-equipped to deal with a complete sociopath as President.

There are exceptions, of course, but the mainstream press seems to be content to phone it in much of the time, basically writing variations on the same old Washington trope of "Dems said, GOP said" and simply changing the names in their boilerplate story templates.

The comedians are freer to push that "balance" nonsense to the side and just call a spade a spade or say the Emperor is butt ass naked and running through the streets shouting, "Bababooey, Bababooey!".


They aren't ill-equipped, they just don't care.

"As Common Cause notes in its position paper, 'In 2002, more than half of TV stations in the nation's top 50 markets completely ignored state and congressional elections in their highest rated local news programs in the weeks leading up to those elections, with large station owners offering the least election coverage of all.'

McChesney takes it further, saying, 'What little coverage there is, is mostly gossip, spin, and speculation, or basically what's spoon-fed to them by party elites and insiders and big shots accepting all their biases as the appropriate way to view the world. It's impossible to exaggerate just how nutritionless this so-called journalism is.'

In other words, viewers of most stations get lots of Donald Trump news, but almost nothing about city council elections or even state representatives."

They wanted bread and circuses, and were perfectly fine forcing everybody else to suffer the consequences.
 
2017-09-14 08:06:20 PM  
I think the problem with political interviews, if you want to get dirt on people real quick, is that the person interviewed is incredibly wary of what he's going to say, the threat is very present and very fresh.

I think the best thing to do is interview the person in a friendlier environment. Say... A bar. And the person asking the questions is not only the interviewer, but also the bartender.

There's no need to berate, or to add something to the drink, just a casual conversation between the barkeep and the patron, in between drinks, minute questions (how's the wife, are the kids alright, tough day at work, etc.), and the dirt will flow like water from a fountain.
 
2017-09-14 08:08:44 PM  
He still can't be honest. Sad
 
2017-09-14 08:09:33 PM  
Spicy not yet ready to give up that sweet, sweet Trump cock. Two-way street my ass. If the President is a fark, then you treat him like a fark. You don't pretend he's not a fark and play nice while he continues to act like a fark. Turning a blind eye to farkery is no way to run a democracy.

/the filter is really going to fark up this post, isn't it?
 
2017-09-14 08:09:53 PM  
he went straight for "both sides are bad"

sad!  pathetic!  what a loser!
 
2017-09-14 08:09:58 PM  
A couple of actual journalists have asked something like that question, but because Spicer was still on the job at the time, his intent was to baffle them with bullshiat or ladle on the contempt, not answer a question.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/stop-shaking-your-head​-​sean-spicer-lashes-out-reporter-april-n739691

I mean, good for Kimmel, I guess, for trying to make it a real interview, but what the fark does anyone expect Spicer to say at this point?
 
2017-09-14 08:15:50 PM  
Nope, sorry Sean, in your very first press conference you told me to ignore my eyes and believe the lie that Trump's inauguration crowd was the largest in history.  And you continued day after day for the rest of your tenure.  You dont get to say "well, there's vitrol on both sides" when youre the one shoveling shiat with a bucket loader.
 
2017-09-14 08:19:52 PM  
It was an interesting interview insofar as he could be viewed in a more relaxed environment, but he ultimately stuck to the same old lines. That really came out when he said we could "argue the facts," and then in clarifying, ended up saying we can come to different conclusions based on the same facts. He is, still, Snekretary.
 
2017-09-14 08:20:20 PM  
Just because the "Applause" and "Laugh" lights illuminate in the studio doesn't mean you need to do them because we all know this guy deserves a warm welcome.
 
2017-09-14 08:21:04 PM  

blastoh: "I think it's a two-way street. And when these guys in the press corps go after the president in ways that are unbecoming - again, it's sort of like what your mom said, two wrongs don't make a right," said Spicer, who spent six rollercoaster months in the White House.
"I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

So.... both .... sides... are...... bad.... 

This really is the modern conservative trope.  
"Yes, we might have done something bad, but you are bad for noticing."


That's weird.  I seem to recall one media outlet that spent a lot of time calling into question the credibility of whether a president was even eligible to hold office, and yet I don't recall him threatening them.
 
2017-09-14 08:26:13 PM  

sirrerun: Our fourth estate seems utterly ill-equipped to deal with a complete sociopath as President.

There are exceptions, of course, but the mainstream press seems to be content to phone it in much of the time, basically writing variations on the same old Washington trope of "Dems said, GOP said" and simply changing the names in their boilerplate story templates.

The comedians are freer to push that "balance" nonsense to the side and just call a spade a spade or say the Emperor is butt ass naked and running through the streets shouting, "Bababooey, Bababooey!".


Some(not even close to all) of Olbermanns "Resistance" videos are worth watching.  His latest one on the press and Trump touches on how reporters simply don't know how to deal with Trump because he's outside of the norm that they are used to.  It's worth the 6 or 7 minute watch.
 
2017-09-14 08:27:45 PM  
Unbecoming?

What's an example of that, maybe focusing on stuff you don't like? Reporting your and Trump's words as spoken? Asking questions repeatedly when you ducked them? Oh, wait, they never did that.
 
2017-09-14 08:30:30 PM  

blastoh: "I think it's a two-way street. And when these guys in the press corps go after the president in ways that are unbecoming - again, it's sort of like what your mom said, two wrongs don't make a right," said Spicer, who spent six rollercoaster months in the White House.
"I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

So.... both .... sides... are...... bad....
This really is the modern conservative trope.
"Yes, we might have done something bad, but you are bad for noticing."


In this case, I think it's more that he sees no difference between what he's doing to the press and what the press is doing to him. It's like he thinks this is one big game of Super Smash Bros, and he's one of those Melee players who insists on only playing with No Items/Fox Only/Final Destination because "that's the only way it's fair".
 
2017-09-14 08:34:00 PM  
Hitler gassed millions.
 
2017-09-14 08:35:42 PM  
The real sad part?  Most of us will continue to consume the media that does us a disservice.  They're rich, they don't care, and we don't either.
 
2017-09-14 08:42:51 PM  

blastoh: "I think it's a two-way street. And when these guys in the press corps go after the president in ways that are unbecoming - again, it's sort of like what your mom said, two wrongs don't make a right," said Spicer, who spent six rollercoaster months in the White House.
"I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

So.... both .... sides... are...... bad.... 

This really is the modern conservative trope.  
"Yes, we might have done something bad, but you are bad for noticing."


To be fair, Spicy's credibility WAS called into question on day one... to his face.... on national television. Not to say he didn't deserve it.

/ he made some pretty good points. As press secretary, you are there to express what the president's views are. If those views are not consistent with reality....what recourse do you have?
 
2017-09-14 08:46:08 PM  
"I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

Well, maybe if the VERY FIRST THING he did as president wasn't "have my press secretary lie about the size of the inauguration crowd, lie about why it was smaller than it could have been, and even lie about the GODDAMN WEATHER at the inauguration"his credibility wouldn't have been called into question from the outset.
 
2017-09-14 08:46:13 PM  
first question should've been, "What was it like to meet the Pope?".
 
2017-09-14 08:46:21 PM  

iheartscotch: blastoh: "I think it's a two-way street. And when these guys in the press corps go after the president in ways that are unbecoming - again, it's sort of like what your mom said, two wrongs don't make a right," said Spicer, who spent six rollercoaster months in the White House.
"I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

So.... both .... sides... are...... bad.... 

This really is the modern conservative trope.  
"Yes, we might have done something bad, but you are bad for noticing."

To be fair, Spicy's credibility WAS called into question on day one... to his face.... on national television. Not to say he didn't deserve it.

/ he made some pretty good points. As press secretary, you are there to express what the president's views are. If those views are not consistent with reality....what recourse do you have?


Sean Spicer was just following orders.
 
2017-09-14 08:48:59 PM  

mcsiegs: Just because the "Applause" and "Laugh" lights illuminate in the studio doesn't mean you need to do them because we all know this guy deserves a warm welcome.


I would be more than happy to present Spicy with a pressed ham.
 
2017-09-14 08:49:10 PM  

King Something: iheartscotch: blastoh: "I think it's a two-way street. And when these guys in the press corps go after the president in ways that are unbecoming - again, it's sort of like what your mom said, two wrongs don't make a right," said Spicer, who spent six rollercoaster months in the White House.
"I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

So.... both .... sides... are...... bad.... 

This really is the modern conservative trope.  
"Yes, we might have done something bad, but you are bad for noticing."

To be fair, Spicy's credibility WAS called into question on day one... to his face.... on national television. Not to say he didn't deserve it.

/ he made some pretty good points. As press secretary, you are there to express what the president's views are. If those views are not consistent with reality....what recourse do you have?

Sean Spicer was just following orders.


"Hey calling it your job ol' hoss sure don't make it right
But if you want me to I'll say a prayer for your soul tonight"

~John Mellencamp
 
2017-09-14 08:49:18 PM  
Snek would be free to say what he really thinks, if that dirty, rotten mongoose didn't get in the way.
 
2017-09-14 08:50:21 PM  
He was on Kimmel after all the old folks are in bed. He should have fired both barrels and renewed a little credibility. When your last resumé entry is "Toady for Donald Trump" your stock can only go up....
 
2017-09-14 08:57:28 PM  

King Something: iheartscotch: blastoh: "I think it's a two-way street. And when these guys in the press corps go after the president in ways that are unbecoming - again, it's sort of like what your mom said, two wrongs don't make a right," said Spicer, who spent six rollercoaster months in the White House.
"I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

So.... both .... sides... are...... bad.... 

This really is the modern conservative trope.  
"Yes, we might have done something bad, but you are bad for noticing."

To be fair, Spicy's credibility WAS called into question on day one... to his face.... on national television. Not to say he didn't deserve it.

/ he made some pretty good points. As press secretary, you are there to express what the president's views are. If those views are not consistent with reality....what recourse do you have?

Sean Spicer was just following orders.


Would YOU have put YOUR job on the line and gone off message? I'm not trying to excuse the behavior; I'm just saying that I understand why he did it.
 
2017-09-14 09:01:35 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: sirrerun: Our fourth estate seems utterly ill-equipped to deal with a complete sociopath as President.

There are exceptions, of course, but the mainstream press seems to be content to phone it in much of the time, basically writing variations on the same old Washington trope of "Dems said, GOP said" and simply changing the names in their boilerplate story templates.

The comedians are freer to push that "balance" nonsense to the side and just call a spade a spade or say the Emperor is butt ass naked and running through the streets shouting, "Bababooey, Bababooey!".

They aren't ill-equipped, they just don't care.

"As Common Cause notes in its position paper, 'In 2002, more than half of TV stations in the nation's top 50 markets completely ignored state and congressional elections in their highest rated local news programs in the weeks leading up to those elections, with large station owners offering the least election coverage of all.'

McChesney takes it further, saying, 'What little coverage there is, is mostly gossip, spin, and speculation, or basically what's spoon-fed to them by party elites and insiders and big shots accepting all their biases as the appropriate way to view the world. It's impossible to exaggerate just how nutritionless this so-called journalism is.'

In other words, viewers of most stations get lots of Donald Trump news, but almost nothing about city council elections or even state representatives."

They wanted bread and circuses, and were perfectly fine forcing everybody else to suffer the consequences.


The local press kind of deserves a break on that one.
They serve TV markets.
It is beyond rare for a single city council or a single mayor to dominate a TV Market.
More typically there are ten or so different cities that each have 100000 people or so. And there are districts within the cities.
Expecting your local station to give you enough good coverage of a city council race for you to make an informed choice is about as unreasonable as expecting your National media to give you good coverage of the New Hampshire governor's race.  Most people in the US don't live in New Hampshire, and could give two craps about the differences between the major candidates.
And in the larger TV markets, there will also be as many as 10 different members of US Congress. Yes, they deserve local coverage that exposes the real controversial issues between the candidates, but there is literally no way to give that to one viewer without confusing and alienating 9 others.
 
2017-09-14 09:08:42 PM  

iheartscotch: King Something: iheartscotch: blastoh: "I think it's a two-way street. And when these guys in the press corps go after the president in ways that are unbecoming - again, it's sort of like what your mom said, two wrongs don't make a right," said Spicer, who spent six rollercoaster months in the White House.
"I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

So.... both .... sides... are...... bad....

This really is the modern conservative trope.
"Yes, we might have done something bad, but you are bad for noticing."

To be fair, Spicy's credibility WAS called into question on day one... to his face.... on national television. Not to say he didn't deserve it.

/ he made some pretty good points. As press secretary, you are there to express what the president's views are. If those views are not consistent with reality....what recourse do you have?

Sean Spicer was just following orders.

Would YOU have put YOUR job on the line and gone off message? I'm not trying to excuse the behavior; I'm just saying that I understand why he did it.


I would quit a job that wanted me to throw my credibility out the window by publicly telling many very obvious and verifiable lies. These weren't political spins, they were transparent bald faced lies. About the stupidest of things too.
 
2017-09-14 09:21:08 PM  

jst3p: "I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

Well, maybe if the VERY FIRST THING he did as president wasn't "have my press secretary lie about the size of the inauguration crowd, lie about why it was smaller than it could have been, and even lie about the GODDAMN WEATHER at the inauguration"his credibility wouldn't have been called into question from the outset.


This.
 
2017-09-14 09:25:19 PM  
Some things never change...
The truest, most moving statement ever made regarding the press in a free country
Youtube JbDRRuPfqCA
 
2017-09-14 09:26:21 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Some things never change...
[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/JbDRRuPfqCA - 480x360]


The 2000s have been the decade that refuses to end.
 
2017-09-14 09:27:38 PM  
It's become "yeah, I'm a shiathead, but you're an even bigger Shiathead for noticing"  mentality.all news is fake news now? There's only one fake news it's called fox
 
2017-09-14 09:28:28 PM  

jst3p: iheartscotch: King Something: iheartscotch: blastoh: "I think it's a two-way street. And when these guys in the press corps go after the president in ways that are unbecoming - again, it's sort of like what your mom said, two wrongs don't make a right," said Spicer, who spent six rollercoaster months in the White House.
"I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

So.... both .... sides... are...... bad....

This really is the modern conservative trope.
"Yes, we might have done something bad, but you are bad for noticing."

To be fair, Spicy's credibility WAS called into question on day one... to his face.... on national television. Not to say he didn't deserve it.

/ he made some pretty good points. As press secretary, you are there to express what the president's views are. If those views are not consistent with reality....what recourse do you have?

Sean Spicer was just following orders.

Would YOU have put YOUR job on the line and gone off message? I'm not trying to excuse the behavior; I'm just saying that I understand why he did it.

I would quit a job that wanted me to throw my credibility out the window by publicly telling many very obvious and verifiable lies. These weren't political spins, they were transparent bald faced lies. About the stupidest of things too.


So, that's a "no" on running for public office?

/ I wouldn't be surprised if Spicy was (pre-trump) looking at running for public office and thought that press secretary would be a good place to start
 
2017-09-14 09:30:01 PM  
Late night show? Hope the other guest was Melissa McCarthy.
 
2017-09-14 09:32:09 PM  

iheartscotch: jst3p: iheartscotch: King Something: iheartscotch: blastoh: "I think it's a two-way street. And when these guys in the press corps go after the president in ways that are unbecoming - again, it's sort of like what your mom said, two wrongs don't make a right," said Spicer, who spent six rollercoaster months in the White House.
"I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

So.... both .... sides... are...... bad....

This really is the modern conservative trope.
"Yes, we might have done something bad, but you are bad for noticing."

To be fair, Spicy's credibility WAS called into question on day one... to his face.... on national television. Not to say he didn't deserve it.

/ he made some pretty good points. As press secretary, you are there to express what the president's views are. If those views are not consistent with reality....what recourse do you have?

Sean Spicer was just following orders.

Would YOU have put YOUR job on the line and gone off message? I'm not trying to excuse the behavior; I'm just saying that I understand why he did it.

I would quit a job that wanted me to throw my credibility out the window by publicly telling many very obvious and verifiable lies. These weren't political spins, they were transparent bald faced lies. About the stupidest of things too.

So, that's a "no" on running for public office?

/ I wouldn't be surprised if Spicy was (pre-trump) looking at running for public office and thought that press secretary would be a good place to start


To be fair, I will admit I would do it for the right amount of money.

But it wouldn't be "political office" money. I would be OK with half the world thinking I am a despicable shiathead for "Rush Limbaugh" money. If given the opportunity I bet more of us wold take that deal than like to admit it.
 
2017-09-14 09:39:32 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Some things never change...
[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/JbDRRuPfqCA - 480x360]

The 2000s have been the decade that refuses to end.


I feel like September 2001 just keeps going and going like a broken record.
 
2017-09-14 09:43:27 PM  
Spicer had stage fright. He was in front of the biggest studio audience in late night television.
 
2017-09-14 09:43:54 PM  

iheartscotch: blastoh: "I think it's a two-way street. And when these guys in the press corps go after the president in ways that are unbecoming - again, it's sort of like what your mom said, two wrongs don't make a right," said Spicer, who spent six rollercoaster months in the White House.
"I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

So.... both .... sides... are...... bad.... 

This really is the modern conservative trope.  
"Yes, we might have done something bad, but you are bad for noticing."

To be fair, Spicy's credibility WAS called into question on day one... to his face.... on national television. Not to say he didn't deserve it.

/ he made some pretty good points. As press secretary, you are there to express what the president's views are. If those views are not consistent with reality....what recourse do you have?


You quit.

You say, "I can't tell a lie this blatant," and you quit.

If you don't do that, well, f*ck your credibility.
 
2017-09-14 09:46:45 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Bith Set Me Up: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Some things never change...
[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/JbDRRuPfqCA - 480x360]

The 2000s have been the decade that refuses to end.

I feel like September 2001 just keeps going and going like a broken record.


I mean, there's usually lingering periods between decades. The 1950s lasted till 1963. The 1960s lasted till 1973 or '74. The 1970s lasted till 1982 or '83. The 1980s lasted till 1992. And the 1990s lasted till 2001.

The 2000s, on the other hand, just won't go gently into the night.
 
2017-09-14 09:48:50 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: A couple of actual journalists have asked something like that question, but because Spicer was still on the job at the time, his intent was to baffle them with bullshiat or ladle on the contempt, not answer a question.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/stop-shaking-your-head-​sean-spicer-lashes-out-reporter-april-n739691

I mean, good for Kimmel, I guess, for trying to make it a real interview, but what the fark does anyone expect Spicer to say at this point?


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2017-09-14 10:18:52 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Bith Set Me Up: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Some things never change...
[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/JbDRRuPfqCA - 480x360]

The 2000s have been the decade that refuses to end.

I feel like September 2001 just keeps going and going like a broken record.

I mean, there's usually lingering periods between decades. The 1950s lasted till 1963. The 1960s lasted till 1973 or '74. The 1970s lasted till 1982 or '83. The 1980s lasted till 1992. And the 1990s lasted till 2001.

The 2000s, on the other hand, just won't go gently into the night.


One long, monotonous decade of blandly indistinguishable monoculture punctuated by intermittent periods of dismay over highly visible world tragedgies and gnawing anxiety about the fate of the country in the hands of increasingly inept and corrupt politicians?

*scratches head*  Sounds about right.
 
2017-09-14 10:19:36 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: tragedgies


Fwooo, that spelling.  Too much blood in the caffeine stream.
 
2017-09-14 10:29:07 PM  

blastoh: "I think it's a two-way street. And when these guys in the press corps go after the president in ways that are unbecoming - again, it's sort of like what your mom said, two wrongs don't make a right," said Spicer, who spent six rollercoaster months in the White House.
"I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

So.... both .... sides... are...... bad.... 

This really is the modern conservative trope.  
"Yes, we might have done something bad, but you are bad for noticing."


This.  Sad Spice can go diaf.
 
2017-09-14 10:45:43 PM  
What no hero tag? O noes people don't believe all the horse shiat the press shovels whatever will America do! How about have some journalistic integrity. Cnn turned itself into a tabloid rag long before Trump showed up.
 
2017-09-14 11:46:21 PM  

iheartscotch: King Something: iheartscotch: blastoh: "I think it's a two-way street. And when these guys in the press corps go after the president in ways that are unbecoming - again, it's sort of like what your mom said, two wrongs don't make a right," said Spicer, who spent six rollercoaster months in the White House.
"I think sometimes when the press corps attacks the president, undermines him, calls into question his credibility from the outset, I think it creates a very poor relationship overall," he continued.

So.... both .... sides... are...... bad.... 

This really is the modern conservative trope.  
"Yes, we might have done something bad, but you are bad for noticing."

To be fair, Spicy's credibility WAS called into question on day one... to his face.... on national television. Not to say he didn't deserve it.

/ he made some pretty good points. As press secretary, you are there to express what the president's views are. If those views are not consistent with reality....what recourse do you have?

Sean Spicer was just following orders.

Would YOU have put YOUR job on the line and gone off message? I'm not trying to excuse the behavior; I'm just saying that I understand why he did it.


My honest answer is I wouldn't take the job in the first place. Not unless I had a complete trust that they would never ask me to lie. And with a clear understanding that if they try to force me to I refuse, and quit.
 
2017-09-14 11:59:30 PM  

JerkStore: Spicy not yet ready to give up that sweet, sweet Trump cock. Two-way street my ass. If the President is a fark, then you treat him like a fark. You don't pretend he's not a fark and play nice while he continues to act like a fark. Turning a blind eye to farkery is no way to run a democracy.

/the filter is really going to fark up this post, isn't it?


It actually made perfect sense to me. I just replaced every instance of "fark" with "marklar." I then ran your post through my Marklar translator . . . which is actually called a marklar marklar.
 
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