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2017-09-14 12:38:45 PM  
The lesson is: never try.
 
2017-09-14 12:53:06 PM  
How about 37?

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2017-09-14 01:03:38 PM  
It's worth at least a chicken dinner
 
2017-09-14 01:07:35 PM  
"The Cleveland Indians have won 21 straight baseball games.  That's a new Major League record "

Ummm.... American League record?
 
2017-09-14 01:24:30 PM  
Seattle Mariners...2001...116 wins...Lost to the Yankees.
 
2017-09-14 01:29:23 PM  
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2017-09-14 01:29:43 PM  

wiseolddude: Seattle Mariners...2001...116 wins...Lost to the Yankees.


1998 Yankees 114 wins, lost only twice in the playoffs.
 
2017-09-14 01:30:23 PM  

wiseolddude: Seattle Mariners...2001...116 wins...Lost to the Yankees.



Ugh.

/Long-suffering Mariners fan.
//Way too late in my life to switch teams.
 
2017-09-14 01:30:55 PM  

wiseolddude: Seattle Mariners...2001...116 wins...Lost to the Yankees.


2006 Cardinals: 83 wins, World Series champs.
 
2017-09-14 01:34:40 PM  
21 in a row?  That's a lot of sections.

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2017-09-14 01:34:44 PM  

Dr.Fey: "The Cleveland Indians have won 21 straight baseball games.  That's a new Major League record "

Ummm.... American League record?


Tied with the 1935 Cubs for "winning streak that doesn't include ties". So, not a "new" record, but still tops in the majors, depending on how you're counting.

Oddly enough, all these record seem to come at the end of the season.
 
2017-09-14 01:36:10 PM  
The Cleveland Indians have won 21 straight baseball games.  That's a new Major League record

No. Well, it's a new American League record, but it ties the major league record. (And the 1916 New York Giants won 26 games in a row without losing, though there was a tie(!) mixed in somewhere in the middle, so that probably doesn't count as the longest "winning" streak.)
 
2017-09-14 01:38:09 PM  
They should bring back ties. Extra innings is just messy baseball and not all games need a decision. If nobody can score more runs that the other guy in the prescribed time, there should not be a winner.
 
2017-09-14 01:44:17 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: They should bring back ties. Extra innings is just messy baseball and not all games need a decision. If nobody can score more runs that the other guy in the prescribed time, there should not be a winner.


I'm in favor of an NFL-like approach. Play maybe three extra innings, and if no one's ahead after 12, then it's a tie.
 
2017-09-14 01:44:33 PM  
No sudden death, though.
 
2017-09-14 01:45:24 PM  

The_Sponge: wiseolddude: Seattle Mariners...2001...116 wins...Lost to the Yankees.


Ugh.

/Long-suffering Mariners fan.
//Way too late in my life to switch teams.


Is there a different kind?
 
2017-09-14 01:46:50 PM  

Trainspotr: depending on how you're counting.


Cyberluddite: there was a tie(!) mixed in somewhere in the middle


I kind of hope they get like 30 in a row, just so that there is a clearly defined winner.  When the A's did what they did in 2002, and based on your comments, etc... it seems like there are a bunch of asterisks, so to speak.

/not an Indians fan or hater
//for that reason, better them than a couple East Coast teams ESPN thinks the world revolves around
///was at the Scott Hatteberg game - still have my ticket stub
 
2017-09-14 01:50:40 PM  

Trainspotr: Tr0mBoNe: They should bring back ties. Extra innings is just messy baseball and not all games need a decision. If nobody can score more runs that the other guy in the prescribed time, there should not be a winner.

I'm in favor of an NFL-like approach. Play maybe three extra innings, and if no one's ahead after 12, then it's a tie.


Yeah, or even just a top and bottom half. Or, go the hockey route and have a home run derby to figure it out.
 
2017-09-14 01:50:53 PM  
I'm in favor of not changing the rules of baseball just because it's past your bed time.
 
2017-09-14 01:56:15 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: They should bring back ties. Extra innings is just messy baseball and not all games need a decision. If nobody can score more runs that the other guy in the prescribed time, there should not be a winner.


I'm not sure I actually understand where the "Ties" rule came from. Because it's not like extra innings didn't exist back then. I haven't looked further. But I suspect it's related to the fact that there were no lights/no night games util the 1930s/1940s.
 
2017-09-14 02:01:50 PM  

JohnHall: I'm not sure I actually understand where the "Ties" rule came from. Because it's not like extra innings didn't exist back then. I haven't looked further. But I suspect it's related to the fact that there were no lights/no night games util the 1930s/1940s.


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If the extra innings went on so long that the field got too dark to play, the game was just stopped and declared a tie.
 
2017-09-14 02:02:53 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: They should bring back ties. Extra innings is just messy baseball and not all games need a decision. If nobody can score more runs that the other guy in the prescribed time, there should not be a winner.


Ugh. You sound like a soccer fan. Ties may be OK for commie kickball, but this is America, and in our national game we have a clear winner and loser, rather than just handing out two participation trophies.  America, fark yeah!
 
2017-09-14 02:12:17 PM  

foo monkey: The_Sponge: wiseolddude: Seattle Mariners...2001...116 wins...Lost to the Yankees.


Ugh.

/Long-suffering Mariners fan.
//Way too late in my life to switch teams.

Is there a different kind?



Probably not.

/Only went to one game this season.
//The day after Labor Day....my boss gave me tickets that were in a really good section...8 rows up from first base...and it included a parking pass.
 
2017-09-14 02:13:32 PM  

red5ish: I'm in favor of not changing the rules of baseball just because it's past your bed time.


MLB is going to do just that, whether or not you're in favor of it. Ending the game in a tie seems less awful than putting runners on base to start an inning, or whatever other terrible idea they can come up with.
 
2017-09-14 02:18:25 PM  
Peter Brand: Billy, we just won twenty games in a row.
Billy Beane: And what's the point?
Peter Brand: We just got the record.
Billy Beane: Man, I've been doing this for... listen, man. I've been in this game a long time. I'm not in it for a record, I'll tell you that. I'm not in it for a ring. That's when people get hurt. If we don't win the last game of the Series, they'll dismiss us.
Peter Brand: Billy...
Billy Beane: I know these guys. I know the way they think, and they will erase us. And everything we've done here, none of it'll matter.
 
2017-09-14 02:25:13 PM  

Trainspotr: Tr0mBoNe: They should bring back ties. Extra innings is just messy baseball and not all games need a decision. If nobody can score more runs that the other guy in the prescribed time, there should not be a winner.

I'm in favor of an NFL-like approach. Play maybe three extra innings, and if no one's ahead after 12, then it's a tie.


No. Stop it.
 
2017-09-14 02:29:50 PM  

Trainspotr: red5ish: I'm in favor of not changing the rules of baseball just because it's past your bed time.

MLB is going to do just that, whether or not you're in favor of it. Ending the game in a tie seems less awful than putting runners on base to start an inning, or whatever other terrible idea they can come up with.


this is from February and has not been brought up since in terms of coming to actual regular season major league baseball
 
2017-09-14 02:31:51 PM  

ElwoodCuse: this is from February and has not been brought up since in terms of coming to actual regular season major league baseball


It's been test driven in pre-season, the minors and the WBC. I actually don't mind it with the caveat that it doesn't start until the 13th inning on.
 
2017-09-14 02:35:17 PM  
*reads headline*

Of course it doesn't matter. It's baseball. Baseball doesn't matter

Wake me up when they're playing a real sport like hockey or football
 
2017-09-14 02:35:21 PM  
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2017-09-14 02:37:59 PM  

Trainspotr: No sudden death, though.


Baseball already has a form of sudden death in extra innings. But only for the home team.  As it should be.
 
2017-09-14 02:38:09 PM  

Cyberluddite: Tr0mBoNe: They should bring back ties. Extra innings is just messy baseball and not all games need a decision. If nobody can score more runs that the other guy in the prescribed time, there should not be a winner.

Ugh. You sound like a soccer fan. Ties may be OK for commie kickball, but this is America, and in our national game we have a clear winner and loser, rather than just handing out two participation trophies.  America, fark yeah!


The difference, of course, is that it's actually exhausting to play 90 minutes of soccer, much less adding 2 overtime periods.  Position players could go hours playing baseball and not get tired.  The only difficulties in baseball are sleep and running out of pitchers.
 
2017-09-14 02:39:00 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Trainspotr: red5ish: I'm in favor of not changing the rules of baseball just because it's past your bed time.

MLB is going to do just that, whether or not you're in favor of it. Ending the game in a tie seems less awful than putting runners on base to start an inning, or whatever other terrible idea they can come up with.

this is from February and has not been brought up since in terms of coming to actual regular season major league baseball


That is true. They probably want to review how it went with the minor leagues, now that the season is over. And it's highly unlikely that a change this drastic would be implemented until the current CBA expires after the 2021 season. But the fact that MLB is even contemplating stuff like this indicates that they are willing to change rules which have been in place for generations.
 
2017-09-14 02:39:59 PM  

Cyberluddite: Trainspotr: No sudden death, though.

Baseball already has a form of sudden death in extra innings. But only for the home team.  As it should be.


Pitcher throws grenades into the visitor's dugout?
 
2017-09-14 02:41:01 PM  

Cyberluddite: Trainspotr: No sudden death, though.

Baseball already has a form of sudden death in extra innings. But only for the home team.  As it should be.


D'oh. Of course.
 
2017-09-14 02:51:22 PM  

Trainspotr: But the fact that MLB is even contemplating stuff like this indicates that they are willing to change rules which have been in place for generations


As any sport should, because surprise, things change.
 
2017-09-14 03:04:36 PM  

LL316: The difference, of course, is that it's actually exhausting to play 90 minutes of soccer, much less adding 2 overtime periods.  Position players could go hours playing baseball and not get tired.  The only difficulties in baseball are sleep and running out of pitchers.


Well, not catchers, anyway.  It may be tiring, but not excruciating, for a guy to stand in left field for 18 innings, but when the starting catcher has to be in the squat for 18 innings (because the team only carries two catchers on the roster and back-up catcher came up as a pinch-hitter for the pitcher in bottom of the 10th), calling and catching 250 pitches, using his body to block 30 of those pitches that were in the dirt, and taking a couple dozen foul tips off his body, that guy deserves a farking medal or something.

IMHO, extra innings are more entertaining in National League baseball games than in American League "baseball" games, because of decisions that have to be made about pinch-hitting for an ever-dwindling supply of remaining pitchers (more of which were typically used up in the first 9 innings anyway, since there's no DH).  In Clownball the AL, the manager can just put a long relief guy in there and have him pitch for 5 or 6 innings or until the game ends, whichever comes first, but that's not as often an option in the NL, so strategy becomes more important.  And by the end of a really long game, it's fun to see what silly results can occur--a reliever who has never swung a bat in a major league game getting his first career plate appearance with the bases loaded in the top of 17th because there are no position players left to pinch hit (or being pinch hit for by some starting pitcher who at least knows how to hold the bat and where to stand), or the benchwarmer utility infielder who's currently batting .197 and who last pitched in in high school coming on to pitch the bottom of the 20th because the entire bullpen has been used up. Those games are fun and memorable.
 
2017-09-14 03:06:19 PM  

Cyberluddite: American League "baseball" games


*eyeroll*
 
2017-09-14 03:10:00 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Cyberluddite: Trainspotr: No sudden death, though.

Baseball already has a form of sudden death in extra innings. But only for the home team.  As it should be.

Pitcher throws grenades into the visitor's dugout?


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2017-09-14 03:23:30 PM  

The Bestest: Cyberluddite: American League "baseball" games

*eyeroll*


To each his own.

I'm old, and you can all get off my lawn, but when I was a kid, pitchers batted in the AL, everyone in the starting line-up took the field on defense, and we liked it! In fact, I was mostly an A's fan back then, and a small part of what made them a great team back in those days is that they had some pitchers who could actually hit (e.g., Catfish Hunter, and early on, Vida Blue), and who had to pitched to like they might jerk one out of the yard at any given AB (Catfish Hunter actually batted .350 for the full season in one of years in Oakland).  When the DL was introduced, I started losing interest, and to this day I still find AL games to be kind of an imitation of baseball.

I realize that, for those who grew up watching baseball in AL towns in the DH era, it's all you've ever known so it seems perfectly normal, but I can't feel that way. I find it boring. But again, to each his own.
 
2017-09-14 03:41:04 PM  
I'm a lifelong Indians fan, my dad took me to my first game in 1973.  I've gotten thousands of hours of enjoyment out of that.  Even watching that stretch prior to 1993 (when you could see it starting to come together) was fun.  OK, they lost more than they won and apparently the rest of you didn't think too much of Cleveland Stadium, but it was still a leisure time activity to go watch a ballgame.  Our current national dialogue seems to dictate that nothing matters without a ring.  Sure, I've been horribly disappointed many times as a Cleveland sports fan and I'm really hoping that this baseball season ends with a win.  But whether they win the World Series or get swept in the ALDS, I will still have to go to work on the following Monday morning.  So yeah, it does matter - because this shiat is fun.

We're exchanging hemp paper to gain admission to the workplace of some other guys where we eat dead pigs on bread and bang our hands together to show our approval of their work skills.  So we should probably just calm down a bit and enjoy the good stuff when it happens.
 
2017-09-14 03:44:08 PM  

JohnHall: Tr0mBoNe: They should bring back ties. Extra innings is just messy baseball and not all games need a decision. If nobody can score more runs that the other guy in the prescribed time, there should not be a winner.

I'm not sure I actually understand where the "Ties" rule came from. Because it's not like extra innings didn't exist back then. I haven't looked further. But I suspect it's related to the fact that there were no lights/no night games util the 1930s/1940s.


the tie during the giants' streak was the second game of a double header that was rained out after the 8th, tied at 1-1

as per the rules at the time, those games were replayed from the beginning instead of being resumed
 
2017-09-14 03:46:23 PM  

Cyberluddite: and a small part of what made them a great team back in those days is that they had some pitchers who could actually hit


That's fun and cool but there are zero pitchers who can actually hit anymore. Yes, zero, I don't give a shiat and MadBum and his career .187/.234/.326 with 17 dingers, that's goddamn atrocious and everyone fawns over it.
 
2017-09-14 03:51:02 PM  

xaks: *reads headline*

Of course it doesn't matter. It's baseball. Baseball doesn't matter

Wake me up when they're playing a real sport like hockey or football


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2017-09-14 03:59:27 PM  

LL316: Cyberluddite: Tr0mBoNe: They should bring back ties. Extra innings is just messy baseball and not all games need a decision. If nobody can score more runs that the other guy in the prescribed time, there should not be a winner.

Ugh. You sound like a soccer fan. Ties may be OK for commie kickball, but this is America, and in our national game we have a clear winner and loser, rather than just handing out two participation trophies.  America, fark yeah!

The difference, of course, is that it's actually exhausting to play 90 minutes of soccer, much less adding 2 overtime periods.  Position players could go hours playing baseball and not get tired.  The only difficulties in baseball are sleep and running out of pitchers.


Exactly.  I want to see the first baseman pitching in the 22nd inning at 3 am!

Baseball is supposed to be weird.  You are supposed to see something new every game.  Extra extra extra innings encourages this.
 
2017-09-14 04:05:19 PM  
Because this country puts more emphasis on a playoff system than who the best team actually was throughout the season, almost as if teams that are perennial competitors but aren't the best in the season have one last shot at claiming their superiority.
 
2017-09-14 04:11:35 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Cyberluddite: and a small part of what made them a great team back in those days is that they had some pitchers who could actually hit

That's fun and cool but there are zero pitchers who can actually hit anymore. Yes, zero, I don't give a shiat and MadBum and his career .187/.234/.326 with 17 dingers, that's goddamn atrocious and everyone fawns over it.


I do wish pitchers would bat a bit.  I'm thinking back to Orel Hershiser, who had a lifetime .201 average (no homers, though).  In 1993 he randomly batted .356 (26 for 73).  No, I have no idea how he managed that.

But what they really need to do is to learn how to farking bunt.  So many pitchers can't even move the guy from first to second these days.

Heck, I'd like to see position players bunt a little more, especially against the shift (for hits).
 
2017-09-14 04:12:19 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Cyberluddite: and a small part of what made them a great team back in those days is that they had some pitchers who could actually hit

That's fun and cool but there are zero pitchers who can actually hit anymore. Yes, zero, I don't give a shiat and MadBum and his career .187/.234/.326 with 17 dingers, that's goddamn atrocious and everyone fawns over it.


MadBum gets the headlines because he hits a lot of dingers (1 per 17 ABs over the last 4 years, which would be ridiculously high even for a position player, and isn't much different than Giancarlo Stanton's career HR/AB percentage), but there are certainly better-hitting pitchers in terms of batting average. Hell, Bumgarner doesn't even have the highest batting average in the Giants' current starting rotation--Ty Blach's career (which only started late last season) slash line is .250/.302/.354 (but with just 1 HR this season, so nobody pays attention).
 
2017-09-14 04:16:17 PM  

Cyberluddite: MadBum gets the headlines because he hits a lot of dingers (1 per 17 15 ABs over the last 4 years, which would be ridiculously high even for a position player, and isn't much different than Giancarlo Stanton's career HR/AB percentage)


FTFM, for the sake of accuracy.
 
2017-09-14 04:58:47 PM  
Does going on a hot streak help you win the championship?

NHL - 5 teams have streaks of at least 14 games, 1 won the championship
NBA - 5 teams have streaks of at least 20 games, 3 won the championship
NFL - 6 teams in the Super Bowl era have started a season with at least 13 consecutive wins, 2 won the championship
MLB - 4 teams other teams since 1930 have streaks of at least 18 games, 2 won the championship

Overall, 40% of teams with the best winning streaks ever during the regular season go on to win the championship. It's a bit better than the odds.
Comparatively, in the NHL and MLB the team with the best record has generally won the championship about 25% of the time, while that is more like 50% in the NBA and NFL.
 
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