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2017-09-14 10:59:50 AM  
They.  Are.  Morons.
 
2017-09-14 11:09:50 AM  
It's a no-lose situation for them.  If they make a deal with D2S to save the Dreamers, then the Dreamers are saved, the GOP is in chaos, and the wingnuts of his base hate the GOP even more (they never blame him).  If he backs out of the deal, then it just looks even worse for him and the GOP with moderates in 14 months.

By announcing the deal, they've painted their opposition into a corner.  But D2S will go along with it, because it'll make him look like a winner and get him the praise he likes.  And McConnell and Ryan will go along with it because they know it would be worse for the GOP as a whole to screw the Dreamers than the hit they'll take from Trump's wingnuts.

Pelosi and Schumer aren't giving away anything significant but are potentially saving 800k people, so this isn't a classic "deal with the devil".  If D2S had an alignment, I'd say he's not so much Chaotic Evil as Chaotic Egotistical; we're just seeing Dem leadership start working the ego levers.

People always talk about 7-dimensional chess in politics.  This is what it actually looks like.
 
2017-09-14 11:14:20 AM  
They never had a chance. They're playing chess and Trump is playing 12 dimensional Tic-Tac-Toe.
 
2017-09-14 11:23:18 AM  
This talking point has a massive flaw.
 
2017-09-14 11:48:36 AM  

obenchainr: It's a no-lose situation for them.  If they make a deal with D2S to save the Dreamers, then the Dreamers are saved, the GOP is in chaos, and the wingnuts of his base hate the GOP even more (they never blame him).  If he backs out of the deal, then it just looks even worse for him and the GOP with moderates in 14 months.

By announcing the deal, they've painted their opposition into a corner.  But D2S will go along with it, because it'll make him look like a winner and get him the praise he likes.  And McConnell and Ryan will go along with it because they know it would be worse for the GOP as a whole to screw the Dreamers than the hit they'll take from Trump's wingnuts.

Pelosi and Schumer aren't giving away anything significant but are potentially saving 800k people, so this isn't a classic "deal with the devil".  If D2S had an alignment, I'd say he's not so much Chaotic Evil as Chaotic Egotistical; we're just seeing Dem leadership start working the ego levers.

People always talk about 7-dimensional chess in politics.  This is what it actually looks like.


Trump is a tool. He is made to be used.
 
2017-09-14 12:04:22 PM  
Trump agreed with them.
They reported Trump agreed with them.
Trump then freaks out that his base is gonna freak out and comes out and says he never agreed with them.
They then said "Uhhhhh that's not what you said in the meeting"
Now he says "Yeah, I did kinda agree with them".
The man's a nutcase.
He agrees with whoever he's talking to.
 
2017-09-14 12:06:09 PM  
Trump doesn't write legislation.  He only signs it.
 
2017-09-14 12:54:14 PM  
Hmmm...potential gain with little to no risk.  Yep, TOTAL morons.
 
2017-09-14 01:07:04 PM  
Wow.

This is all you got, Trumpers?

It's gonna be a long however-long-he's-president for you guys.
 
2017-09-14 02:06:55 PM  
After destroying any shred of credibility we are supposed to take Trump's word for what went down?
 
2017-09-14 02:30:45 PM  
Oh what a glorious day it is.  Never would I have guessed that I would be gleefully reading Brietbart comments section. bahahaha

No it wont. It will never come you fool.
Keeping DACA, granting amnesty ensures a Democrat landslide come 2018. Owning the Congress, they will then impeach you, RINOs will gleefully pile on.
Dems will then never lose because you have kept or inserted more swamp turds into our government... they will allow the Dems to continue to break the law, commit treason and use the government to abuse patriotic citizens. The fascists will ensure every illegal alien is registered and voting, they will ensure their ANTIFA brownshirts are violently assaulting any who disagree. Dems will have totalitarian control of the country and the country will slowly but most assuredly die.
Thank you asshat clown for MAVA
Making America Venezuela ASAP.
Unfreakingbelievable...
I voted for him, I supported him, I fought for him, I lost friends for him, I've been slandered sexist, racist, you name it because of my support and this is what I get? I'll stand by my asshat clown comment... you don't like it? Toughshiite

After what happened to Ronald Reagan, Only a COMPLETE IDIOT would believe that the "wall will come later".
AND, he talks about Ryan and McConnell's endorsement as though it's a good thing! These two are REALLY DEMONKRAPS!...They are a couple of the biggest Traitors to their party as any two in American History!
Is this guy Trump BLIND OR WHAT?
 
2017-09-14 03:23:31 PM  
Speaking from experienced -- even when you know a Narcissist is a liar -- they have this bizarre ability to, when they want to make you believe black is white, day is night, and, despite how things can look...they have just an uncanny ability to make you believe YOU are getting the 'authentic' them.

It takes a while before you truly get it ingrained, on a personal level, that they were, are, and will always be, full of shiat.
 
2017-09-14 03:23:43 PM  
Trump's burning bridges before they're even built.
 
2017-09-14 03:23:55 PM  
Are the Republicans screaming in horror and fighting amongst themselves? It's working.
 
2017-09-14 03:24:39 PM  
Is this a trick question?
 
2017-09-14 03:24:57 PM  
They're morons... unless one of them had the "record" button pressed on the Voice Memo app of their iPhone at the point where he said "We have a deal."

But I'm not optimistic.
 
2017-09-14 03:25:12 PM  

Munden: Oh what a glorious day it is.  Never would I have guessed that I would be gleefully reading Brietbart comments section. bahahaha

No it wont. It will never come you fool.
Keeping DACA, granting amnesty ensures a Democrat landslide come 2018. Owning the Congress, they will then impeach you, RINOs will gleefully pile on.
Dems will then never lose because you have kept or inserted more swamp turds into our government... they will allow the Dems to continue to break the law, commit treason and use the government to abuse patriotic citizens. The fascists will ensure every illegal alien is registered and voting, they will ensure their ANTIFA brownshirts are violently assaulting any who disagree. Dems will have totalitarian control of the country and the country will slowly but most assuredly die.
Thank you asshat clown for MAVA
Making America Venezuela ASAP.
Unfreakingbelievable...
I voted for him, I supported him, I fought for him, I lost friends for him, I've been slandered sexist, racist, you name it because of my support and this is what I get? I'll stand by my asshat clown comment... you don't like it? Toughshiite

After what happened to Ronald Reagan, Only a COMPLETE IDIOT would believe that the "wall will come later".
AND, he talks about Ryan and McConnell's endorsement as though it's a good thing! These two are REALLY DEMONKRAPS!...They are a couple of the biggest Traitors to their party as any two in American History!
Is this guy Trump BLIND OR WHAT?


This is a comment from a particularly deranged individual. Really makes you wonder if we should not fund more mental health services.
 
2017-09-14 03:25:41 PM  
Yeah they're total fools for setting Trump up like this.
 
2017-09-14 03:26:30 PM  
They really missed an opportunity for a more NY Postian headline:

Donald Denies Democrat DACA Deal's Done.

Duh.  Aside from that, color me shocked that the President doesn't keep his word for even a day.
 
2017-09-14 03:27:33 PM  

Munden: Oh what a glorious day it is.  Never would I have guessed that I would be gleefully reading Brietbart comments section. bahahaha

No it wont. It will never come you fool.
Keeping DACA, granting amnesty ensures a Democrat landslide come 2018. Owning the Congress, they will then impeach you, RINOs will gleefully pile on.
Dems will then never lose because you have kept or inserted more swamp turds into our government... they will allow the Dems to continue to break the law, commit treason and use the government to abuse patriotic citizens. The fascists will ensure every illegal alien is registered and voting, they will ensure their ANTIFA brownshirts are violently assaulting any who disagree. Dems will have totalitarian control of the country and the country will slowly but most assuredly die.
Thank you asshat clown for MAVA
Making America Venezuela ASAP.
Unfreakingbelievable...
I voted for him, I supported him, I fought for him, I lost friends for him, I've been slandered sexist, racist, you name it because of my support and this is what I get? I'll stand by my asshat clown comment... you don't like it? Toughshiite

After what happened to Ronald Reagan, Only a COMPLETE IDIOT would believe that the "wall will come later".
AND, he talks about Ryan and McConnell's endorsement as though it's a good thing! These two are REALLY DEMONKRAPS!...They are a couple of the biggest Traitors to their party as any two in American History!
Is this guy Trump BLIND OR WHAT?


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That comment was heavy on the poeslaw.  DEMONKRATS!  HA!
 
2017-09-14 03:27:39 PM  
Yes, they are.
 
2017-09-14 03:28:48 PM  
Well, when a man buys you furniture...
 
2017-09-14 03:29:35 PM  
But think of all the moderate Republicans who'll support them!
 
2017-09-14 03:29:38 PM  

Fart_Machine: Trump's burning bridges before they're even built.


Isn't that called 'salting the fields?'.
 
2017-09-14 03:30:57 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: Munden: Oh what a glorious day it is.  Never would I have guessed that I would be gleefully reading Brietbart comments section. bahahaha

No it wont. It will never come you fool.
Keeping DACA, granting amnesty ensures a Democrat landslide come 2018. Owning the Congress, they will then impeach you, RINOs will gleefully pile on.
Dems will then never lose because you have kept or inserted more swamp turds into our government... they will allow the Dems to continue to break the law, commit treason and use the government to abuse patriotic citizens. The fascists will ensure every illegal alien is registered and voting, they will ensure their ANTIFA brownshirts are violently assaulting any who disagree. Dems will have totalitarian control of the country and the country will slowly but most assuredly die.
Thank you asshat clown for MAVA
Making America Venezuela ASAP.
Unfreakingbelievable...
I voted for him, I supported him, I fought for him, I lost friends for him, I've been slandered sexist, racist, you name it because of my support and this is what I get? I'll stand by my asshat clown comment... you don't like it? Toughshiite

After what happened to Ronald Reagan, Only a COMPLETE IDIOT would believe that the "wall will come later".
AND, he talks about Ryan and McConnell's endorsement as though it's a good thing! These two are REALLY DEMONKRAPS!...They are a couple of the biggest Traitors to their party as any two in American History!
Is this guy Trump BLIND OR WHAT?

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That comment was heavy on the poeslaw.  DEMONKRATS!  HA!


I'm thinking it is time to test if my work has blocked freeperville yet...
 
2017-09-14 03:31:20 PM  
why not b... oh, who the hell cares?
 
2017-09-14 03:32:10 PM  
Democrats want to show they're the party that gets things done. Trump wants a win. They reached a deal (because you know how Trumps likes deals), and announced the deal (which Trump shouldhave done, had he a proper communications staff or a strategic bone in his body). The Media made it look like a Democratic win (it was), so Trump threw a fit and back-peddled. Now Democrats get to call him on it.

Republicans look absent, Trump looks feckless, and Democrats still look like the winners. Yeah, total morons.
 
2017-09-14 03:32:19 PM  
ITT, people believing that anything Trump says is remotely related to his actual policies.
 
2017-09-14 03:32:39 PM  

Munden: Oh what a glorious day it is.  Never would I have guessed that I would be gleefully reading Brietbart comments section. bahahaha

No it wont. It will never come you fool.
Keeping DACA, granting amnesty ensures a Democrat landslide come 2018. Owning the Congress, they will then impeach you, RINOs will gleefully pile on.
Dems will then never lose because you have kept or inserted more swamp turds into our government... they will allow the Dems to continue to break the law, commit treason and use the government to abuse patriotic citizens. The fascists will ensure every illegal alien is registered and voting, they will ensure their ANTIFA brownshirts are violently assaulting any who disagree. Dems will have totalitarian control of the country and the country will slowly but most assuredly die.
Thank you asshat clown for MAVA
Making America Venezuela ASAP.
Unfreakingbelievable...
I voted for him, I supported him, I fought for him, I lost friends for him, I've been slandered sexist, racist, you name it because of my support and this is what I get? I'll stand by my asshat clown comment... you don't like it? Toughshiite

After what happened to Ronald Reagan, Only a COMPLETE IDIOT would believe that the "wall will come later".
AND, he talks about Ryan and McConnell's endorsement as though it's a good thing! These two are REALLY DEMONKRAPS!...They are a couple of the biggest Traitors to their party as any two in American History!
Is this guy Trump BLIND OR WHAT?


"Demonkraps" is officially my favorite Republicanism for Democrats.
 
2017-09-14 03:32:50 PM  
The PR firm hired to continue walking back statements after the last statement had been walked back, would like to walk back that statement. The wall will be completed in an entirely different style at great expense and at the last minute.
 
2017-09-14 03:32:54 PM  
¿Porque no los dos?
 
2017-09-14 03:32:59 PM  
They did? What did they put on the line? What did they lose? It seems like they lost nothing and just started another cascade of conflicting statements from Trump.
 
2017-09-14 03:35:17 PM  

BeatrixK: Speaking from experienced -- even when you know a Narcissist is a liar -- they have this bizarre ability to, when they want to make you believe black is white, day is night, and, despite how things can look...they have just an uncanny ability to make you believe YOU are getting the 'authentic' them.

It takes a while before you truly get it ingrained, on a personal level, that they were, are, and will always be, full of shiat.


I can collaborate this.
 
2017-09-14 03:35:35 PM  

8 inches: They.  Are.  Morons.


Funny, I was going with he's a moron.  It's not like he has many people willing to work with him and what is there is finite.
 
2017-09-14 03:39:03 PM  

kregh99: They're morons... unless one of them had the "record" button pressed on the Voice Memo app of their iPhone at the point where he said "We have a deal."

But I'm not optimistic.


By announcing that the deal was made, they put the blame back on the president if nothing gets done, something that he's been desperately trying to avoid, and turned it into a win-win situation for them.

Either Trump keeps to the deal at this point, and they get what they want, or Trump doesn't keep to the deal, and a universally popular program so well-liked that even some of the farking literal Nazis that have been popping up approve of it was destroyed for literally no reason and with no benefit by the GOP in the lead-up to the 2018 election cycle.  The latter case, regardless of your politics, is a giant farking millstone around the neck of any Republican running for re-election pretty much anywhere.

Admittedly this isn't necessarily the result of tactical brilliance on the part of the dems: this little catch-22 is entirely the fault of Trump's stupidity.  Announcing the deal publicly just slams the door on any ability he might have had to walk away from the clusterfark he'd created for himself and his party and at least salvage his support among his own base a bit.  It's like the cartoon where the coyote is already teetering on the edge of the cliff trying to hold back some ACME contraption and the roadrunner runs by to tip him over with the wind of its passage.
 
2017-09-14 03:39:06 PM  

odinsposse: They did? What did they put on the line? What did they lose? It seems like they lost nothing and just started another cascade of conflicting statements from Trump.


No no, they did because Trump.
 
2017-09-14 03:39:15 PM  
I don't care what you say about Pelosi but she's a Goddamn powerhouse. She gets legislation written and passed. She and Chuck are NOT stupid.
 
2017-09-14 03:39:49 PM  
The media loves it.  Just because you saw it live 15 minutes ago doesn't mean it's still true.  You have to tune in again to catch up.
 
2017-09-14 03:39:57 PM  
Donny has new masters. New masters makes him happy and let him win. Donny doesn't like his old masters. They don't let him play. Donny is a good boy now.
 
2017-09-14 03:41:58 PM  
Worst case senario for the GOP is the dems being better at playing stroke the ego.
 
2017-09-14 03:42:52 PM  

obenchainr: It's a no-lose situation for them.  If they make a deal with D2S to save the Dreamers, then the Dreamers are saved, the GOP is in chaos, and the wingnuts of his base hate the GOP even more (they never blame him).  If he backs out of the deal, then it just looks even worse for him and the GOP with moderates in 14 months.

By announcing the deal, they've painted their opposition into a corner.  But D2S will go along with it, because it'll make him look like a winner and get him the praise he likes.  And McConnell and Ryan will go along with it because they know it would be worse for the GOP as a whole to screw the Dreamers than the hit they'll take from Trump's wingnuts.

Pelosi and Schumer aren't giving away anything significant but are potentially saving 800k people, so this isn't a classic "deal with the devil".  If D2S had an alignment, I'd say he's not so much Chaotic Evil as Chaotic Egotistical; we're just seeing Dem leadership start working the ego levers.

People always talk about 7-dimensional chess in politics.  This is what it actually looks like.


This. They're not stupid. Assholish, maybe. But not stupid. They know he's a piece of shiat.

Now whether the Republicans give a fark about pissing off the Latinos, who knows? I'm not convinced anyone outside Floriduh or Texas gives a shiat. They should, but I bet they don't. (shrug) I could be wrong.
 
2017-09-14 03:43:19 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: They never had a chance. They're playing chess and Trump is playing 12 dimensional Tic-Tac-Toe.

 the pigeon who struts around, knocks over the pieces, shiats on the board and thinks he won.
 
2017-09-14 03:43:33 PM  
"The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built."

LOL... be careful.  Your going to throw out your back moving them goal posts all by yourself.
 
2017-09-14 03:46:58 PM  

KiefKommando: Munden: Oh what a glorious day it is.  Never would I have guessed that I would be gleefully reading Brietbart comments section. bahahaha

No it wont. It will never come you fool.
Keeping DACA, granting amnesty ensures a Democrat landslide come 2018. Owning the Congress, they will then impeach you, RINOs will gleefully pile on.
Dems will then never lose because you have kept or inserted more swamp turds into our government... they will allow the Dems to continue to break the law, commit treason and use the government to abuse patriotic citizens. The fascists will ensure every illegal alien is registered and voting, they will ensure their ANTIFA brownshirts are violently assaulting any who disagree. Dems will have totalitarian control of the country and the country will slowly but most assuredly die.
Thank you asshat clown for MAVA
Making America Venezuela ASAP.
Unfreakingbelievable...
I voted for him, I supported him, I fought for him, I lost friends for him, I've been slandered sexist, racist, you name it because of my support and this is what I get? I'll stand by my asshat clown comment... you don't like it? Toughshiite

After what happened to Ronald Reagan, Only a COMPLETE IDIOT would believe that the "wall will come later".
AND, he talks about Ryan and McConnell's endorsement as though it's a good thing! These two are REALLY DEMONKRAPS!...They are a couple of the biggest Traitors to their party as any two in American History!
Is this guy Trump BLIND OR WHAT?

"Demonkraps" is officially my favorite Republicanism for Democrats.


No john, you are the demokraps.
and then john was a zombie.
 
2017-09-14 03:49:06 PM  

odinsposse: They did? What did they put on the line? What did they lose? It seems like they lost nothing and just started another cascade of conflicting statements from Trump.


I came to say this. .

Sure he may have contradicted their account today, but they didn't lose anything, and anyone that has been paying attention knows it's Trump that is is lying.

Besides, it's not like he can win this by tricking them into voting for a bill that repeals Obamacare, kills DACA, and funds the wall.
 
2017-09-14 03:49:39 PM  
Dinner was just a big Alzheimer's party.
 
2017-09-14 03:50:50 PM  

TwilightZone: Dinner was just a big Alzheimer's party.


Ain't no party like an Alzheimer's party but if there was we wouldn't remember it anyway.
 
2017-09-14 03:51:17 PM  

Munden: Oh what a glorious day it is.  Never would I have guessed that I would be gleefully reading Brietbart comments section. bahahaha

No it wont. It will never come you fool.
Keeping DACA, granting amnesty ensures a Democrat landslide come 2018. Owning the Congress, they will then impeach you, RINOs will gleefully pile on.
Dems will then never lose because you have kept or inserted more swamp turds into our government... they will allow the Dems to continue to break the law, commit treason and use the government to abuse patriotic citizens. The fascists will ensure every illegal alien is registered and voting, they will ensure their ANTIFA brownshirts are violently assaulting any who disagree. Dems will have totalitarian control of the country and the country will slowly but most assuredly die.
Thank you asshat clown for MAVA
Making America Venezuela ASAP.
Unfreakingbelievable...
I voted for him, I supported him, I fought for him, I lost friends for him, I've been slandered sexist, racist, you name it because of my support and this is what I get? I'll stand by my asshat clown comment... you don't like it? Toughshiite

After what happened to Ronald Reagan, Only a COMPLETE IDIOT would believe that the "wall will come later".
AND, he talks about Ryan and McConnell's endorsement as though it's a good thing! These two are REALLY DEMONKRAPS!...They are a couple of the biggest Traitors to their party as any two in American History!
Is this guy Trump BLIND OR WHAT?


I wish I was as optimistic as those guys.
 
2017-09-14 03:51:50 PM  

LarryDan43: Worst case senario for the GOP is the dems being better at playing stroke the ego.


exactly what I posted in other thread.  We're into a flatter-off, and the Dems are pretty good at it and have better tools because more people like their policies which gets Donny more adoration (do not equate this with votes).

Love the new tack for the Dems, if only because of how apoplectic the GOP/KKK is already.
 
2017-09-14 03:55:35 PM  

LoneWolf343: BeatrixK: Speaking from experienced -- even when you know a Narcissist is a liar -- they have this bizarre ability to, when they want to make you believe black is white, day is night, and, despite how things can look...they have just an uncanny ability to make you believe YOU are getting the 'authentic' them.

It takes a while before you truly get it ingrained, on a personal level, that they were, are, and will always be, full of shiat.

I can collaborate this.


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