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2017-09-14 12:09:56 PM  

Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.


I have an Echo and a couple of Dots. Love 'em. I use them mainly as remote speakers with volume controls, but I do use some of the other functionality.

/over-the-air radio reception sucks in my area
 
2017-09-14 12:10:22 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: I like the random tits at the bottom of the page. Thank god I'm on my phone.


They are very nice tits. I clicked.
 
2017-09-14 12:11:01 PM  
Or you could just offer to house your own, personal NSA security professional.

/ foiler
 
2017-09-14 12:11:37 PM  

brantgoose: South Park tends to be very inclusive. Everybody is part of the joke. South Park Conservatives and South Park Liberals, everybody. Some people (cough, cough, Conservatives, cough, cough) don't recognize that they are the brunt of of the joke, but then we are talking the people who loved Archie Bunker and said he was telling it like it is, by which they meant, telling it like it isn't but their deluded ideaologies tell them it is.

Mind, until liberals realize that when they watch these shows, the Cons are not laughing with them, but at them, there will be little change.

A little bit Country, a little bit Rock 'n' Roll. A whole lot of Soul and Blues. Cultural expropriation is for everybody. Music just wants to be free. And get paid.

Show up. Get paid. The key to success in music.


The only person I know who gets buttmad about South Park is a very liberal, no-sense-of-humor woman I know. She talked about throwing her remote at the TV after watching a few minutes of last season.
 
2017-09-14 12:12:31 PM  

GrailOfThunder: beezeltown: I guess I'm a cynical old luddite, but I can't stand the idea of some internet-connected device listening to everything in my home.

Whoopie, I can put orange juice on the shopping list with a few words. I sure don't want to feel like I can't express my feelings about my boss to my wife or talk about sensitive topics because some Russian hacker asshole may find a way to record everything, then blackmail me later.

I definitely don't want Google listening in, then suggesting things based on  what my daughter says while she's playing. That's some creepy shiat.

It may sound paranoid, but similar things have happened.

I get the fact that what I type into a computer (like this posting) will be picked up and analyzed by a variety of sources. I just don't like the idea of opening the door to the rest of my home life.

Do you have a Smart TV? An Xbox? A smartphone? A Laptop with a built-in Webcam?

If so, chances are you're already being "listened to". Samsung has already admitted that some of their Smart TVs listen to every conversation in your home and transmit them (to Samsung).  Microsoft was accused of the same thing with their Xbox, but they used to deny it. I don't think they do anymore, since Cortana was released.  And your Smartphone, whether it be Android (Google) or iPhone (Siri) already listens to you and transmits everything back to them.  And of course we all know of the hackers that have broken into laptops and enabled the webcams/microphones.

Unless you have no electronics in your house, it's pretty hard to get away from remote monitoring these days.

At least with Google Home or Alexa, you know ahead of time you're being "listened to" by default instead of surreptitiously.


No. Yes. Yes. No.
The X-box isn't listening to anything if it doesn't have power, and the phone is minimized and often shunted into a drawer at home.

Not really, actually. It is about what you have and how you use it.

Wow! You seem completely OK with this... how incredibly Orwellian of you.
Purely for statistical purposes and won't be shared with any affiliates or 3rd parties, or used for advertising, what is your age?
 
2017-09-14 12:13:20 PM  

blackminded: delsydsoftware: Echo Dot next to my PC

I kept mine next to my PC until I realiZEd that if I'm sitting at my PC there's nothing I need Alexa for. So now it's just bedroom, bathroom, living room.

/the NSA watches me masturbate


We've had to add 3 data racks just to keep up with your schedule.
 
2017-09-14 12:13:35 PM  

mongbiohazard: KarmicDisaster: I personally don't understand the appeal of these devices, and you have to pay them for it? They should pay me to have one. Maybe if they paid me enough I'd let it listen to us, maybe.  I'm not really having any trouble ordering junk from my phone or laptop, thanks.

I've never used it to buy anything, but I use mine to play music, control all my lights, and control my thermostat. It's nice to be able to be laying in bed and turn on and off the lights without getting up, or turn the AC down two degrees or something.


I have one with the wireless remote.  I leave the mic on the unit muted (of course, I am assuming it really is muted..) and just use the remote.   It's a great device for home automation, which is the primary reason I bought it.
 
2017-09-14 12:14:22 PM  
As soon as I saw where the episode was headed, I muted my Dot.
 
2017-09-14 12:15:02 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

You don't?

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Doesn't that graphic equally apply to South Park itself, though?
 
2017-09-14 12:15:35 PM  

stuhayes2010: Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.

But how else can I find the weather?!?!


Try this.  "Alexa, order some Windex from Amazon and look up instructions for using it"
 
2017-09-14 12:18:46 PM  
donutsauce:
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/got nothin...


FYI, she answers this. She also responds to suicidal phrases by listing prevention hotlines.

/at least that's what I heard
 
2017-09-14 12:19:21 PM  

Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.


I can honestly say I've never seen a single episode. I'm only aware of it from memes on fark, which I don't understand.

I am the mayor of edgelordville.
 
2017-09-14 12:19:44 PM  

GrailOfThunder: beezeltown: I guess I'm a cynical old luddite, but I can't stand the idea of some internet-connected device listening to everything in my home.

Whoopie, I can put orange juice on the shopping list with a few words. I sure don't want to feel like I can't express my feelings about my boss to my wife or talk about sensitive topics because some Russian hacker asshole may find a way to record everything, then blackmail me later.

I definitely don't want Google listening in, then suggesting things based on  what my daughter says while she's playing. That's some creepy shiat.

It may sound paranoid, but similar things have happened.

I get the fact that what I type into a computer (like this posting) will be picked up and analyzed by a variety of sources. I just don't like the idea of opening the door to the rest of my home life.

Do you have a Smart TV? An Xbox? A smartphone? A Laptop with a built-in Webcam?

If so, chances are you're already being "listened to". Samsung has already admitted that some of their Smart TVs listen to every conversation in your home and transmit them (to Samsung).  Microsoft was accused of the same thing with their Xbox, but they used to deny it. I don't think they do anymore, since Cortana was released.  And your Smartphone, whether it be Android (Google) or iPhone (Siri) already listens to you and transmits everything back to them.  And of course we all know of the hackers that have broken into laptops and enabled the webcams/microphones.

Unless you have no electronics in your house, it's pretty hard to get away from remote monitoring these days.

At least with Google Home or Alexa, you know ahead of time you're being "listened to" by default instead of surreptitiously.


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2017-09-14 12:20:54 PM  

mongbiohazard: KarmicDisaster: I personally don't understand the appeal of these devices, and you have to pay them for it? They should pay me to have one. Maybe if they paid me enough I'd let it listen to us, maybe.  I'm not really having any trouble ordering junk from my phone or laptop, thanks.

I've never used it to buy anything, but I use mine to play music, control all my lights, and control my thermostat. It's nice to be able to be laying in bed and turn on and off the lights without getting up, or turn the AC down two degrees or something.


I like the idea for home automation, but I can't for the life of me think of why anyone would want to be able to make purchases through them. It just seems weird, but that's how it goes.
/used to be with "it"
 
2017-09-14 12:21:33 PM  

Percise1: the phone is minimized and often shunted into a drawer at home


FYI, unless you take the battery out of your phone, it's a pretty simple trick to turn on the mic and camera remotely. Hope you don't have n iPhone.

Hillbilly Jim: We've had to add 3 data racks just to keep up with your schedule.


Tell the boys at the Fort I say hello, and that I'm very glad I don't work there anymore.
 
2017-09-14 12:21:43 PM  
What does Echo / Alexa do that Cortana can't?

GrailOfThunder: beezeltown: I guess I'm a cynical old luddite, but I can't stand the idea of some internet-connected device listening to everything in my home.

Whoopie, I can put orange juice on the shopping list with a few words. I sure don't want to feel like I can't express my feelings about my boss to my wife or talk about sensitive topics because some Russian hacker asshole may find a way to record everything, then blackmail me later.

I definitely don't want Google listening in, then suggesting things based on  what my daughter says while she's playing. That's some creepy shiat.

It may sound paranoid, but similar things have happened.

I get the fact that what I type into a computer (like this posting) will be picked up and analyzed by a variety of sources. I just don't like the idea of opening the door to the rest of my home life.

Do you have a Smart TV? An Xbox? A smartphone? A Laptop with a built-in Webcam?

If so, chances are you're already being "listened to". Samsung has already admitted that some of their Smart TVs listen to every conversation in your home and transmit them (to Samsung).  Microsoft was accused of the same thing with their Xbox, but they used to deny it. I don't think they do anymore, since Cortana was released.  And your Smartphone, whether it be Android (Google) or iPhone (Siri) already listens to you and transmits everything back to them.  And of course we all know of the hackers that have broken into laptops and enabled the webcams/microphones.

Unless you have no electronics in your house, it's pretty hard to get away from remote monitoring these days.

At least with Google Home or Alexa, you know ahead of time you're being "listened to" by default instead of surreptitiously.

Don't get Samsung's new Intelligent Assistant angry. You wouldn't like him, when he's angry.
 
2017-09-14 12:22:00 PM  

maxandgrinch: GanjSmokr: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Let me guess... you don't even own a TV and you probably need to be at the gym soon.

/yes, I still watch SP and enjoy it.  Along with all the other shows you are probably above watching.
//and I eat at the restaurants you think are horrible.

I'd also venture: you listen to bands we've never heard of, and have all their music from before that guy, with the growl and OMG do you remember his hair?, who used to be in that other band that was great, started producing them and they got like 100 times better. You probably also collect all the work of this artist chick you used to bang, 'cause she's gotta breakout soon, and then this really deep and insightful sculpture work will be worth more than the metal recycler would pay....

Not all of us are such bohemian renegades - tone it down a bit please.


/next time, don't co-sign a student loan for music and art school for someone who isn't your child


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2017-09-14 12:22:13 PM  

UtileDysfunktion: Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.

I have an Echo and a couple of Dots. Love 'em. I use them mainly as remote speakers with volume controls, but I do use some of the other functionality.

/over-the-air radio reception sucks in my area


I never said they weren't cool.    But so is opium and I know better than to have that shiat in my house too.
 
2017-09-14 12:27:51 PM  

Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.


If you're worried about it, just get one of the new Apple speakers when they come out.

Because it uses Siri, it won't understand a single thing anyone says to it.
 
2017-09-14 12:30:37 PM  

Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.


And post about it on an ancient web forum.
 
2017-09-14 12:32:01 PM  

oldfarthenry: Being old & Canuckian I'm not knowledgeable about these devices.
My kid set one of these up & I thought it was an air-freshener. After farting into it for a few hours


Name checks out.
 
2017-09-14 12:32:07 PM  
South Park? They mock everybody.
 
2017-09-14 12:34:26 PM  
I haven't watched South Park in decades, but I'm certain that it's exactly as bad as I imagine it!

/yeah, y'all sound like this
 
2017-09-14 12:36:42 PM  
In other news, South Park is still on the air.

Come on, the show peaked over 10 years ago.
 
2017-09-14 12:37:23 PM  
"Unintentional?"
 
2017-09-14 12:38:13 PM  
We muted it too but not before it had set an alarm for 7am and added Titty Chips Kitty Chips and milk to our shopping list. "You have two items on your shopping list...."
 
2017-09-14 12:38:41 PM  

GrailOfThunder: beezeltown: I guess I'm a cynical old luddite, but I can't stand the idea of some internet-connected device listening to everything in my home.

Whoopie, I can put orange juice on the shopping list with a few words. I sure don't want to feel like I can't express my feelings about my boss to my wife or talk about sensitive topics because some Russian hacker asshole may find a way to record everything, then blackmail me later.

I definitely don't want Google listening in, then suggesting things based on  what my daughter says while she's playing. That's some creepy shiat.

It may sound paranoid, but similar things have happened.

I get the fact that what I type into a computer (like this posting) will be picked up and analyzed by a variety of sources. I just don't like the idea of opening the door to the rest of my home life.

Do you have a Smart TV? An Xbox? A smartphone? A Laptop with a built-in Webcam?

If so, chances are you're already being "listened to". Samsung has already admitted that some of their Smart TVs listen to every conversation in your home and transmit them (to Samsung).  Microsoft was accused of the same thing with their Xbox, but they used to deny it. I don't think they do anymore, since Cortana was released.  And your Smartphone, whether it be Android (Google) or iPhone (Siri) already listens to you and transmits everything back to them.  And of course we all know of the hackers that have broken into laptops and enabled the webcams/microphones.

Unless you have no electronics in your house, it's pretty hard to get away from remote monitoring these days.

At least with Google Home or Alexa, you know ahead of time you're being "listened to" by default instead of surreptitiously.


Firewall rules and DNS blacklists. Though admittedly not for everyone, it's possible to limit who devices are allowed to talk to, when they're allowed to talk, and even if they're allowed to talk. It's still my network and my internet connection. I decide what data flows across it.
 
2017-09-14 12:41:07 PM  
Are they still making that show?  And subby, come on now, no one that owns a home is going to be watching South Park.  Just the idea that...oh...Google Home is a product for the home.  Well you learn something every day.
 
2017-09-14 12:45:31 PM  

skyotter: I haven't watched South Park in decades, but I'm certain that it's exactly as bad as I imagine it!

/yeah, y'all sound like this


See also: Simpsons and SNL threads.
 
2017-09-14 12:48:43 PM  

I Ate Shergar: KarmicDisaster: Queue the xkcd

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Now doing that would have been funny.
 
2017-09-14 12:49:57 PM  
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This thread
 
2017-09-14 12:50:35 PM  
Damn this place has really turned into nothing but a bunch of whiny children.
 
2017-09-14 12:51:19 PM  

GanjSmokr: Altoid: You guessed wrong.    The show was played out years ago, at least for me.

And so you assume everyone else feels the same way, so you are "shocked" that anyone still watches it.  Gotcha.

maxandgrinch: GanjSmokr: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Let me guess... you don't even own a TV and you probably need to be at the gym soon.

/yes, I still watch SP and enjoy it.  Along with all the other shows you are probably above watching.
//and I eat at the restaurants you think are horrible.

I'd also venture: you listen to bands we've never heard of, and have all their music from before that guy, with the growl and OMG do you remember his hair?, who used to be in that other band that was great, started producing them and they got like 100 times better. You probably also collect all the work of this artist chick you used to bang, 'cause she's gotta breakout soon, and then this really deep and insightful sculpture work will be worth more than the metal recycler would pay....

Not all of us are such bohemian renegades - tone it down a bit please.


/next time, don't co-sign a student loan for music and art school for someone who isn't your child

I have to assume that was directed towards Altoid.  Because I'm pretty much the opposite of what you just described.


You're really upset that someone doesn't like the same show you do, aren't you champ? Wanna talk about it?
 
2017-09-14 12:52:20 PM  

Altoid: You guessed wrong. The show was played out years ago, at least for me. Kind of like the Simspons. It was amazing for the first decade, but it's gotten stale.


Blasphemy, they still have some great episodes.  I couldn't watch The Deuce without expecting Butters to pop up in that diner scene with all the other pimps.
 
2017-09-14 12:53:04 PM  

blackminded: skyotter: I haven't watched South Park in decades, but I'm certain that it's exactly as bad as I imagine it!

/yeah, y'all sound like this

See also: Simpsons and SNL threads.


The Trump lampooning is still comedy gold. Otherwise, fark SNL, especially during the 1980s. Why the Simpsons are still on the air is strange, too.

Nostalgia. For the 1990s, What a concept.
 
2017-09-14 12:56:08 PM  

Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.


In other other news, people still watch TV.
 
2017-09-14 12:56:26 PM  

I Ate Shergar: KarmicDisaster: Queue the xkcd

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Amazon had that two for one Alexa deal a little while back.  My boss couldn't resist it, apparently.  Now we have an Alexa in the office.  She has dildos and creamed corn in her shopping cart.  We check every now and then if he got rid of it.  He hasn't.  If he did, though. we'd add them back in.

We didn't want her here.  But he's the boss... for a few more months until retirement.
 
2017-09-14 12:56:27 PM  
That iPhone Cookie Monster commercial where he asks Siri to set an alarm for 15 minutes actually made my phone set a timer for 15 minutes.
 
2017-09-14 12:56:36 PM  
The episode sucked.  It sucked good and hard.  Hand-waving away neo-nazis chants, hitting that oh so fresh decade old house flipper genre show, obvious joke over human alexas, cartman's prolonged scenes that served no purpose but to write out a character, rehashing a stale gag from a decade old episode, and not a single farking joke in all that mess.  All set-up, and poorly done.  It sucked I tell ya. SUCKED
 
2017-09-14 12:57:44 PM  

Matrix Flavored Wasabi: You're really upset


I'm more amused that someone thinks because they don't like something that everyone else dislikes that thing as well.

Your ability to detect emotions over the internet needs improvement.
 
2017-09-14 01:00:25 PM  
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2017-09-14 01:00:58 PM  
https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity?restrict=vaa

In case you're wondering what your phone or home has heard.
 
2017-09-14 01:01:29 PM  

whidbey: In other news, South Park is still on the air.

Come on, the show peaked over 10 years ago.


I don't know when I'd say it peaked, I haven't sat down to do a comparative quality analysis of each season, but last season cracked me up good.

Even if it did peak years ago I don't care, so long as it's still entertaining. A bad episode of a good show is still better than the best most shows can muster. I enjoy watching South Park.
 
2017-09-14 01:06:34 PM  

Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.


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2017-09-14 01:07:30 PM  
The real new season will come out next month in the form of the Fracture But Whole game. Already preordered.
 
2017-09-14 01:09:02 PM  

whidbey: blackminded: skyotter: I haven't watched South Park in decades, but I'm certain that it's exactly as bad as I imagine it!

/yeah, y'all sound like this

See also: Simpsons and SNL threads.

The Trump lampooning is still comedy gold. Otherwise, fark SNL, especially during the 1980s. Why the Simpsons are still on the air is strange, too.

Nostalgia. For the 1990s, What a concept.


Eddie Murphy alone is enough to make 80's SNL great.
 
2017-09-14 01:10:20 PM  
I have an Alexa and a couple of dots, heck i'm single so really nothing it is listening to in the house. Great for instant weather not only where you are at but where you might be headed, timer for cooking, music and pretty much any question you might use your phone or computer for but you can do it on the go instead of having to stop what you are doing. 

i read something a few months back that kids are becoming a little more rude due to not having to say please, thank you or things like that when talking to humans after spending time with alexa in the home
 
2017-09-14 01:11:00 PM  

abhorrent1: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

I can honestly say I've never seen a single episode. I'm only aware of it from memes on fark, which I don't understand.

I am the mayor of edgelordville.


Oh yeah, well I never watch it and I skip the memes on fark. I can't even spell SuTho Arkp or whatever it is you two fanboys are talking about.

I am the KING of Edgelordville so respect meh authoratie
 
2017-09-14 01:15:17 PM  

Rueened: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

In other other news, people still watch TV.


In other news still, Fark has more edginess than a ,um, truck full of Etch A Sketches going to, er, Sears -NO- Toys R Us (I don't know).
 
2017-09-14 01:18:13 PM  

blackminded: Percise1: the phone is minimized and often shunted into a drawer at home

FYI, unless you take the battery out of your phone, it's a pretty simple trick to turn on the mic and camera remotely. Hope you don't have n iPhone.


Not true, when the phones are powered off the radios are as well.  There's no communications occurring with a phone that's power is off.

My brother is one of the real "can you hear me now" guys with VZW.  He tests a lot of phones.  He gets new phones months before they are even released.  I don't know if it's part of their regular testing but I know he's checked many of his phones to see if there's any communications with the towers when powered down and so far he hasn't had one that did.  And you can check your wifi to see if it's still connected to that when it's powered down.  I've never seen one that was.

One way to be sure, fully charge your phone, turn it off and stick it in a Faraday bag overnight.  If it spent that much time trying to communicate with wifi or a tower the battery is going to go way down if not be completely dead.  When a phone is trying to find a tower it puts out a ton of signal that will run the battery down fast.
 
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