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2017-09-14 08:26:24 AM  
No, you were a very intentional part of the joke. And if you then went and posted under some stupid hashtag about it, you were a very intentional tool used to further the joke. But hey, SOCIAL MEDIA.
 
2017-09-14 08:37:29 AM  
Last night's episode had a joke in it?
 
2017-09-14 08:44:50 AM  
Queue the xkcd
 
2017-09-14 10:48:00 AM  

WhiskeyBender: Last night's episode had a joke in it?


the audience was the joke
 
2017-09-14 11:02:24 AM  
I started saying "Simon says" lines to my Alexa after watching that episode.   I giggled almost as much as Cartman.  Good times.

/So lonely
 
2017-09-14 11:16:23 AM  
Unintentional? Not a chance. Hilarious though.
 
2017-09-14 11:20:50 AM  
I have an Echo Dot next to my PC. I never realized how many people say "Let's...uh" on Youtube videos until I put the Dot there...it interprets that as Alexa and goes nuts.
 
2017-09-14 11:22:36 AM  
Haven't watched it yet, but thanks for the heads up to wear headphones!
 
2017-09-14 11:22:37 AM  
In other news, people still watch South Park.
 
2017-09-14 11:23:52 AM  
Damn, I missed the latest episode of Today's Headlines Rendered In Construction Paper?
 
2017-09-14 11:24:26 AM  
Last night's episode was a great start to the season.
 
2017-09-14 11:25:33 AM  

delsydsoftware: I have an Echo Dot next to my PC. I never realized how many people say "Let's...uh" on Youtube videos until I put the Dot there...it interprets that as Alexa and goes nuts.


Holy cow! You may have solved a long running question in my house as to why Alexa every now and again will start responding out of what appears to be normal conversation. Thanks and plus one internet to you.
 
2017-09-14 11:26:13 AM  

KarmicDisaster: Queue the xkcd


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2017-09-14 11:27:33 AM  

8 inches: I started saying "Simon says" lines to my Alexa after watching that episode.   I giggled almost as much as Cartman.  Good times.

/So lonely


I didn't see the episode, but more than once have I said to my Alexa "Simon Says everything is going to be OK." I live a sad life.
 
2017-09-14 11:27:43 AM  
South Park tends to be very inclusive. Everybody is part of the joke. South Park Conservatives and South Park Liberals, everybody. Some people (cough, cough, Conservatives, cough, cough) don't recognize that they are the brunt of of the joke, but then we are talking the people who loved Archie Bunker and said he was telling it like it is, by which they meant, telling it like it isn't but their deluded ideaologies tell them it is.

Mind, until liberals realize that when they watch these shows, the Cons are not laughing with them, but at them, there will be little change.

A little bit Country, a little bit Rock 'n' Roll. A whole lot of Soul and Blues. Cultural expropriation is for everybody. Music just wants to be free. And get paid.

Show up. Get paid. The key to success in music.
 
2017-09-14 11:28:26 AM  

Pocket Ninja: No, you were a very intentional part of the joke. And if you then went and posted under some stupid hashtag about it, you were a very intentional tool used to further the joke. But hey, SOCIAL MEDIA.


That's a bingo!
 
2017-09-14 11:28:29 AM  

Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.


Let me guess... you don't even own a TV and you probably need to be at the gym soon.

/yes, I still watch SP and enjoy it.  Along with all the other shows you are probably above watching.
//and I eat at the restaurants you think are horrible.
 
2017-09-14 11:28:44 AM  

bdub77: WhiskeyBender: Last night's episode had a joke in it?

the audience was the joke


Isn't that every episode?
 
2017-09-14 11:28:51 AM  

Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.


Heyoooo! Be careful not to cut yourself on that edge.
 
2017-09-14 11:29:11 AM  

delsydsoftware: Echo Dot next to my PC


I kept mine next to my PC until I realiZEd that if I'm sitting at my PC there's nothing I need Alexa for. So now it's just bedroom, bathroom, living room.

/the NSA watches me masturbate
 
2017-09-14 11:30:03 AM  
From how many sides of the page can NME make an ad appear?
 
2017-09-14 11:31:29 AM  
a/s/l
 
2017-09-14 11:33:41 AM  

Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.


You don't?

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2017-09-14 11:37:59 AM  

EmptyCup: delsydsoftware: I have an Echo Dot next to my PC. I never realized how many people say "Let's...uh" on Youtube videos until I put the Dot there...it interprets that as Alexa and goes nuts.

Holy cow! You may have solved a long running question in my house as to why Alexa every now and again will start responding out of what appears to be normal conversation. Thanks and plus one internet to you.


THIS. My son has started muting Alexa if we don't need her for awhile because he was creeped out by her random spouts of "Hmm...I don't know how to help you that."

/Now I know
//And knowing is half the battle
///G.I. Joooooooooooooe
 
2017-09-14 11:40:14 AM  
I like the random tits at the bottom of the page. Thank god I'm on my phone.
 
2017-09-14 11:43:38 AM  

GanjSmokr: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Let me guess... you don't even own a TV and you probably need to be at the gym soon.

/yes, I still watch SP and enjoy it.  Along with all the other shows you are probably above watching.
//and I eat at the restaurants you think are horrible.


You guessed wrong.    The show was played out years ago, at least for me.   Kind of like the Simspons.   It was amazing for the first decade, but it's gotten stale.
 
2017-09-14 11:45:01 AM  
I haven't watched SP in a while. Is it still shock humor and starry eyed libertarianism?
 
2017-09-14 11:45:10 AM  

HydroMonkey: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Heyoooo! Be careful not to cut yourself on that edge.


I honestly thought the show had played itself out years ago.   To each their own, I guess.
 
2017-09-14 11:45:34 AM  
I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.
 
2017-09-14 11:46:14 AM  
I guess I'm a cynical old luddite, but I can't stand the idea of some internet-connected device listening to everything in my home.

Whoopie, I can put orange juice on the shopping list with a few words. I sure don't want to feel like I can't express my feelings about my boss to my wife or talk about sensitive topics because some Russian hacker asshole may find a way to record everything, then blackmail me later.

I definitely don't want Google listening in, then suggesting things based on  what my daughter says while she's playing. That's some creepy shiat.

It may sound paranoid, but similar things have happened.

I get the fact that what I type into a computer (like this posting) will be picked up and analyzed by a variety of sources. I just don't like the idea of opening the door to the rest of my home life.
 
2017-09-14 11:46:39 AM  

GanjSmokr: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Let me guess... you don't even own a TV and you probably need to be at the gym soon.

/yes, I still watch SP and enjoy it.  Along with all the other shows you are probably above watching.
//and I eat at the restaurants you think are horrible.


I'd also venture: you listen to bands we've never heard of, and have all their music from before that guy, with the growl and OMG do you remember his hair?, who used to be in that other band that was great, started producing them and they got like 100 times better. You probably also collect all the work of this artist chick you used to bang, 'cause she's gotta breakout soon, and then this really deep and insightful sculpture work will be worth more than the metal recycler would pay....

Not all of us are such bohemian renegades - tone it down a bit please.


/next time, don't co-sign a student loan for music and art school for someone who isn't your child
 
2017-09-14 11:49:51 AM  

maxandgrinch: /next time, don't co-sign a student loan for music and art school for someone who isn't your child


This sentence filled me with a completely foreign yet somehow recognizable sense of existential dread.  I guess today's a day for new experiences.
 
2017-09-14 11:50:02 AM  
Being old & Canuckian I'm not knowledgeable about these devices.
My kid set one of these up & I thought it was an air-freshener. After farting into it for a few hours it sent some EMS folks over to our place & voided a Taco Bell gift card someone had gave me.
Talk about intrusive!
 
2017-09-14 11:51:43 AM  

maxandgrinch: GanjSmokr: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Let me guess... you don't even own a TV and you probably need to be at the gym soon.

/yes, I still watch SP and enjoy it.  Along with all the other shows you are probably above watching.
//and I eat at the restaurants you think are horrible.

I'd also venture: you listen to bands we've never heard of, and have all their music from before that guy, with the growl and OMG do you remember his hair?, who used to be in that other band that was great, started producing them and they got like 100 times better. You probably also collect all the work of this artist chick you used to bang, 'cause she's gotta breakout soon, and then this really deep and insightful sculpture work will be worth more than the metal recycler would pay....

Not all of us are such bohemian renegades - tone it down a bit please.


/next time, don't co-sign a student loan for music and art school for someone who isn't your child


That's quite the imagination you have there.
 
2017-09-14 11:54:41 AM  

beezeltown: I guess I'm a cynical old luddite, but I can't stand the idea of some internet-connected device listening to everything in my home.

Whoopie, I can put orange juice on the shopping list with a few words. I sure don't want to feel like I can't express my feelings about my boss to my wife or talk about sensitive topics because some Russian hacker asshole may find a way to record everything, then blackmail me later.

I definitely don't want Google listening in, then suggesting things based on  what my daughter says while she's playing. That's some creepy shiat.

It may sound paranoid, but similar things have happened.

I get the fact that what I type into a computer (like this posting) will be picked up and analyzed by a variety of sources. I just don't like the idea of opening the door to the rest of my home life.


Do what ya want. And please don't take this the wrong way: nobody is really as interesting as they think they are.

Personally, I have an Amazon Tap and love it. I don't have it connected to a card or anything, but it's nice for playing music around the house. Even if it is listening to every word and giving transcripts to the Pentagon, the most they are gonna get is hours of me talking about how farking great the Rolling Stones are and the occasional background po-nography moans.
 
2017-09-14 11:56:06 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: I haven't watched SP in a while. Is it still shock humor and starry eyed libertarianism?


Sounds like you never watched South Park
 
2017-09-14 11:57:31 AM  
I'm a big South Park fan and thought that episode was pretty weak - starting with recycling the Dey Dook Er Jerbs guys and then playing down the whole white nationalist thing. Even after they revealed that the head redneck just wanted to kill all the Muslims, blacks, and Mexicans, it had no consequences. That's not libertarian; it's just stupid.

The only thing that made me chuckle was the runner with the confederate flag-waving.

Even Randy's show was stupid. He wasn't house-flipping - he was just renovating people's houses.
 
2017-09-14 11:57:36 AM  
You really want a "smart" device in your home that is that easily manipulated?

Really?
 
2017-09-14 11:58:56 AM  
I personally don't understand the appeal of these devices, and you have to pay them for it? They should pay me to have one. Maybe if they paid me enough I'd let it listen to us, maybe.  I'm not really having any trouble ordering junk from my phone or laptop, thanks.
 
2017-09-14 11:59:12 AM  

beezeltown: I guess I'm a cynical old luddite, but I can't stand the idea of some internet-connected device listening to everything in my home.

Whoopie, I can put orange juice on the shopping list with a few words. I sure don't want to feel like I can't express my feelings about my boss to my wife or talk about sensitive topics because some Russian hacker asshole may find a way to record everything, then blackmail me later.

I definitely don't want Google listening in, then suggesting things based on  what my daughter says while she's playing. That's some creepy shiat.

It may sound paranoid, but similar things have happened.

I get the fact that what I type into a computer (like this posting) will be picked up and analyzed by a variety of sources. I just don't like the idea of opening the door to the rest of my home life.


Do you have a Smart TV? An Xbox? A smartphone? A Laptop with a built-in Webcam?

If so, chances are you're already being "listened to". Samsung has already admitted that some of their Smart TVs listen to every conversation in your home and transmit them (to Samsung).  Microsoft was accused of the same thing with their Xbox, but they used to deny it. I don't think they do anymore, since Cortana was released.  And your Smartphone, whether it be Android (Google) or iPhone (Siri) already listens to you and transmits everything back to them.  And of course we all know of the hackers that have broken into laptops and enabled the webcams/microphones.

Unless you have no electronics in your house, it's pretty hard to get away from remote monitoring these days.

At least with Google Home or Alexa, you know ahead of time you're being "listened to" by default instead of surreptitiously.
 
2017-09-14 11:59:24 AM  
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/got nothin...
 
2017-09-14 12:02:11 PM  

Altoid: You guessed wrong.    The show was played out years ago, at least for me.


And so you assume everyone else feels the same way, so you are "shocked" that anyone still watches it.  Gotcha.

maxandgrinch: GanjSmokr: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Let me guess... you don't even own a TV and you probably need to be at the gym soon.

/yes, I still watch SP and enjoy it.  Along with all the other shows you are probably above watching.
//and I eat at the restaurants you think are horrible.

I'd also venture: you listen to bands we've never heard of, and have all their music from before that guy, with the growl and OMG do you remember his hair?, who used to be in that other band that was great, started producing them and they got like 100 times better. You probably also collect all the work of this artist chick you used to bang, 'cause she's gotta breakout soon, and then this really deep and insightful sculpture work will be worth more than the metal recycler would pay....

Not all of us are such bohemian renegades - tone it down a bit please.


/next time, don't co-sign a student loan for music and art school for someone who isn't your child


I have to assume that was directed towards Altoid.  Because I'm pretty much the opposite of what you just described.
 
2017-09-14 12:02:35 PM  

Altoid: It was amazing for the first decade, but it's gotten stale.


Can't totally disagree, but they tried to shake it up over the last two seasons by introducing multi-episode story arcs that weave disparate plots together. The first of those seasons worked pretty well and the second landed with a thud, but at least they're making an effort to keep it fresh.
 
2017-09-14 12:02:56 PM  

Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.


But how else can I find the weather?!?!
 
2017-09-14 12:03:21 PM  

KarmicDisaster: I personally don't understand the appeal of these devices, and you have to pay them for it? They should pay me to have one. Maybe if they paid me enough I'd let it listen to us, maybe.  I'm not really having any trouble ordering junk from my phone or laptop, thanks.


I've never used it to buy anything, but I use mine to play music, control all my lights, and control my thermostat. It's nice to be able to be laying in bed and turn on and off the lights without getting up, or turn the AC down two degrees or something.
 
2017-09-14 12:04:57 PM  
Actually, it is perceived as a joke but what it really is... a warning.


beezeltown: I guess I'm a cynical old luddite, but I can't stand the idea of some internet-connected device listening to everything in my home.

Whoopie, I can put orange juice on the shopping list with a few words. I sure don't want to feel like I can't express my feelings about my boss to my wife or talk about sensitive topics because some Russian hacker asshole may find a way to record everything, then blackmail me later.

I definitely don't want Google listening in, then suggesting things based on  what my daughter says while she's playing. That's some creepy shiat.

It may sound paranoid, but similar things have happened.

I get the fact that what I type into a computer (like this posting) will be picked up and analyzed by a variety of sources. I just don't like the idea of opening the door to the rest of my home life.


Nope, don't feel alone. They already have too much meta-data, much less my personal data, so I'm not putting mic's around my farking house.
And honestly, I believe that devices like this make you even more stupid, fat and lazy. Not like most people need more of that...

/pass the Ludd, Bud.
 
2017-09-14 12:07:50 PM  
GanjSmokr .

/yes, I still watch SP and enjoy it

Name checks out.
 
2017-09-14 12:08:03 PM  

Altoid: HydroMonkey: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Heyoooo! Be careful not to cut yourself on that edge.

I honestly thought the show had played itself out years ago.   To each their own, I guess.


Not going to dispute your position, but I will agree that the "troll" story arc was absolutely horrible. Worse is the fact that they've run it damn near every single day since it originally aired.
 
2017-09-14 12:08:19 PM  
My daughter received an Alexa recently from her grandparents, and given her name is somewhat close to "Alexa", it's caused a bit of frustration.

Her:  "Alexa, play Katy perry"
Alexa: "playing Katy perry"
Me " no its time to get ready for bed. Alexa, off!"
Her:" Alexa, play Katy Perry"
Alexa: "playing Katy Perry"
Me. "No, Alexa off!"... "(daughter's name), brush your teeth!"
Alexa: "playing "Brush your teeth", by Raffy"
Music starts.  Daughter laughing her ass off at me.
 
2017-09-14 12:09:55 PM  

GanjSmokr: And so you assume everyone else feels the same way, so you are "shocked" that anyone still watches it.  Gotcha.


Shocked?  No.   Surprised?  Somewhat.   I watched it for a long time, and it seemed to steadily decline after about the 6th season or so - kind of the "running out of ideas" thing that happens with a lot of sitcoms.  Only so much you can do with the same characters year after year.   Kept hoping it would get better, and eventually lost interest in it.   I am pretty sure I am not alone in this thinking, but if the show has indeed gotten better, good for those that still watch it, i suppose.
 
2017-09-14 12:09:56 PM  

Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.


I have an Echo and a couple of Dots. Love 'em. I use them mainly as remote speakers with volume controls, but I do use some of the other functionality.

/over-the-air radio reception sucks in my area
 
2017-09-14 12:10:22 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: I like the random tits at the bottom of the page. Thank god I'm on my phone.


They are very nice tits. I clicked.
 
2017-09-14 12:11:01 PM  
Or you could just offer to house your own, personal NSA security professional.

/ foiler
 
2017-09-14 12:11:37 PM  

brantgoose: South Park tends to be very inclusive. Everybody is part of the joke. South Park Conservatives and South Park Liberals, everybody. Some people (cough, cough, Conservatives, cough, cough) don't recognize that they are the brunt of of the joke, but then we are talking the people who loved Archie Bunker and said he was telling it like it is, by which they meant, telling it like it isn't but their deluded ideaologies tell them it is.

Mind, until liberals realize that when they watch these shows, the Cons are not laughing with them, but at them, there will be little change.

A little bit Country, a little bit Rock 'n' Roll. A whole lot of Soul and Blues. Cultural expropriation is for everybody. Music just wants to be free. And get paid.

Show up. Get paid. The key to success in music.


The only person I know who gets buttmad about South Park is a very liberal, no-sense-of-humor woman I know. She talked about throwing her remote at the TV after watching a few minutes of last season.
 
2017-09-14 12:12:31 PM  

GrailOfThunder: beezeltown: I guess I'm a cynical old luddite, but I can't stand the idea of some internet-connected device listening to everything in my home.

Whoopie, I can put orange juice on the shopping list with a few words. I sure don't want to feel like I can't express my feelings about my boss to my wife or talk about sensitive topics because some Russian hacker asshole may find a way to record everything, then blackmail me later.

I definitely don't want Google listening in, then suggesting things based on  what my daughter says while she's playing. That's some creepy shiat.

It may sound paranoid, but similar things have happened.

I get the fact that what I type into a computer (like this posting) will be picked up and analyzed by a variety of sources. I just don't like the idea of opening the door to the rest of my home life.

Do you have a Smart TV? An Xbox? A smartphone? A Laptop with a built-in Webcam?

If so, chances are you're already being "listened to". Samsung has already admitted that some of their Smart TVs listen to every conversation in your home and transmit them (to Samsung).  Microsoft was accused of the same thing with their Xbox, but they used to deny it. I don't think they do anymore, since Cortana was released.  And your Smartphone, whether it be Android (Google) or iPhone (Siri) already listens to you and transmits everything back to them.  And of course we all know of the hackers that have broken into laptops and enabled the webcams/microphones.

Unless you have no electronics in your house, it's pretty hard to get away from remote monitoring these days.

At least with Google Home or Alexa, you know ahead of time you're being "listened to" by default instead of surreptitiously.


No. Yes. Yes. No.
The X-box isn't listening to anything if it doesn't have power, and the phone is minimized and often shunted into a drawer at home.

Not really, actually. It is about what you have and how you use it.

Wow! You seem completely OK with this... how incredibly Orwellian of you.
Purely for statistical purposes and won't be shared with any affiliates or 3rd parties, or used for advertising, what is your age?
 
2017-09-14 12:13:20 PM  

blackminded: delsydsoftware: Echo Dot next to my PC

I kept mine next to my PC until I realiZEd that if I'm sitting at my PC there's nothing I need Alexa for. So now it's just bedroom, bathroom, living room.

/the NSA watches me masturbate


We've had to add 3 data racks just to keep up with your schedule.
 
2017-09-14 12:13:35 PM  

mongbiohazard: KarmicDisaster: I personally don't understand the appeal of these devices, and you have to pay them for it? They should pay me to have one. Maybe if they paid me enough I'd let it listen to us, maybe.  I'm not really having any trouble ordering junk from my phone or laptop, thanks.

I've never used it to buy anything, but I use mine to play music, control all my lights, and control my thermostat. It's nice to be able to be laying in bed and turn on and off the lights without getting up, or turn the AC down two degrees or something.


I have one with the wireless remote.  I leave the mic on the unit muted (of course, I am assuming it really is muted..) and just use the remote.   It's a great device for home automation, which is the primary reason I bought it.
 
2017-09-14 12:14:22 PM  
As soon as I saw where the episode was headed, I muted my Dot.
 
2017-09-14 12:15:02 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

You don't?

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Doesn't that graphic equally apply to South Park itself, though?
 
2017-09-14 12:15:35 PM  

stuhayes2010: Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.

But how else can I find the weather?!?!


Try this.  "Alexa, order some Windex from Amazon and look up instructions for using it"
 
2017-09-14 12:18:46 PM  
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/got nothin...


FYI, she answers this. She also responds to suicidal phrases by listing prevention hotlines.

/at least that's what I heard
 
2017-09-14 12:19:21 PM  

Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.


I can honestly say I've never seen a single episode. I'm only aware of it from memes on fark, which I don't understand.

I am the mayor of edgelordville.
 
2017-09-14 12:19:44 PM  

GrailOfThunder: beezeltown: I guess I'm a cynical old luddite, but I can't stand the idea of some internet-connected device listening to everything in my home.

Whoopie, I can put orange juice on the shopping list with a few words. I sure don't want to feel like I can't express my feelings about my boss to my wife or talk about sensitive topics because some Russian hacker asshole may find a way to record everything, then blackmail me later.

I definitely don't want Google listening in, then suggesting things based on  what my daughter says while she's playing. That's some creepy shiat.

It may sound paranoid, but similar things have happened.

I get the fact that what I type into a computer (like this posting) will be picked up and analyzed by a variety of sources. I just don't like the idea of opening the door to the rest of my home life.

Do you have a Smart TV? An Xbox? A smartphone? A Laptop with a built-in Webcam?

If so, chances are you're already being "listened to". Samsung has already admitted that some of their Smart TVs listen to every conversation in your home and transmit them (to Samsung).  Microsoft was accused of the same thing with their Xbox, but they used to deny it. I don't think they do anymore, since Cortana was released.  And your Smartphone, whether it be Android (Google) or iPhone (Siri) already listens to you and transmits everything back to them.  And of course we all know of the hackers that have broken into laptops and enabled the webcams/microphones.

Unless you have no electronics in your house, it's pretty hard to get away from remote monitoring these days.

At least with Google Home or Alexa, you know ahead of time you're being "listened to" by default instead of surreptitiously.


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2017-09-14 12:20:54 PM  

mongbiohazard: KarmicDisaster: I personally don't understand the appeal of these devices, and you have to pay them for it? They should pay me to have one. Maybe if they paid me enough I'd let it listen to us, maybe.  I'm not really having any trouble ordering junk from my phone or laptop, thanks.

I've never used it to buy anything, but I use mine to play music, control all my lights, and control my thermostat. It's nice to be able to be laying in bed and turn on and off the lights without getting up, or turn the AC down two degrees or something.


I like the idea for home automation, but I can't for the life of me think of why anyone would want to be able to make purchases through them. It just seems weird, but that's how it goes.
/used to be with "it"
 
2017-09-14 12:21:33 PM  

Percise1: the phone is minimized and often shunted into a drawer at home


FYI, unless you take the battery out of your phone, it's a pretty simple trick to turn on the mic and camera remotely. Hope you don't have n iPhone.

Hillbilly Jim: We've had to add 3 data racks just to keep up with your schedule.


Tell the boys at the Fort I say hello, and that I'm very glad I don't work there anymore.
 
2017-09-14 12:21:43 PM  
What does Echo / Alexa do that Cortana can't?

GrailOfThunder: beezeltown: I guess I'm a cynical old luddite, but I can't stand the idea of some internet-connected device listening to everything in my home.

Whoopie, I can put orange juice on the shopping list with a few words. I sure don't want to feel like I can't express my feelings about my boss to my wife or talk about sensitive topics because some Russian hacker asshole may find a way to record everything, then blackmail me later.

I definitely don't want Google listening in, then suggesting things based on  what my daughter says while she's playing. That's some creepy shiat.

It may sound paranoid, but similar things have happened.

I get the fact that what I type into a computer (like this posting) will be picked up and analyzed by a variety of sources. I just don't like the idea of opening the door to the rest of my home life.

Do you have a Smart TV? An Xbox? A smartphone? A Laptop with a built-in Webcam?

If so, chances are you're already being "listened to". Samsung has already admitted that some of their Smart TVs listen to every conversation in your home and transmit them (to Samsung).  Microsoft was accused of the same thing with their Xbox, but they used to deny it. I don't think they do anymore, since Cortana was released.  And your Smartphone, whether it be Android (Google) or iPhone (Siri) already listens to you and transmits everything back to them.  And of course we all know of the hackers that have broken into laptops and enabled the webcams/microphones.

Unless you have no electronics in your house, it's pretty hard to get away from remote monitoring these days.

At least with Google Home or Alexa, you know ahead of time you're being "listened to" by default instead of surreptitiously.

Don't get Samsung's new Intelligent Assistant angry. You wouldn't like him, when he's angry.
 
2017-09-14 12:22:00 PM  

maxandgrinch: GanjSmokr: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Let me guess... you don't even own a TV and you probably need to be at the gym soon.

/yes, I still watch SP and enjoy it.  Along with all the other shows you are probably above watching.
//and I eat at the restaurants you think are horrible.

I'd also venture: you listen to bands we've never heard of, and have all their music from before that guy, with the growl and OMG do you remember his hair?, who used to be in that other band that was great, started producing them and they got like 100 times better. You probably also collect all the work of this artist chick you used to bang, 'cause she's gotta breakout soon, and then this really deep and insightful sculpture work will be worth more than the metal recycler would pay....

Not all of us are such bohemian renegades - tone it down a bit please.


/next time, don't co-sign a student loan for music and art school for someone who isn't your child


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2017-09-14 12:22:13 PM  

UtileDysfunktion: Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.

I have an Echo and a couple of Dots. Love 'em. I use them mainly as remote speakers with volume controls, but I do use some of the other functionality.

/over-the-air radio reception sucks in my area


I never said they weren't cool.    But so is opium and I know better than to have that shiat in my house too.
 
2017-09-14 12:27:51 PM  

Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.


If you're worried about it, just get one of the new Apple speakers when they come out.

Because it uses Siri, it won't understand a single thing anyone says to it.
 
2017-09-14 12:30:37 PM  

Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.


And post about it on an ancient web forum.
 
2017-09-14 12:32:01 PM  

oldfarthenry: Being old & Canuckian I'm not knowledgeable about these devices.
My kid set one of these up & I thought it was an air-freshener. After farting into it for a few hours


Name checks out.
 
2017-09-14 12:32:07 PM  
South Park? They mock everybody.
 
2017-09-14 12:34:26 PM  
I haven't watched South Park in decades, but I'm certain that it's exactly as bad as I imagine it!

/yeah, y'all sound like this
 
2017-09-14 12:36:42 PM  
In other news, South Park is still on the air.

Come on, the show peaked over 10 years ago.
 
2017-09-14 12:37:23 PM  
"Unintentional?"
 
2017-09-14 12:38:13 PM  
We muted it too but not before it had set an alarm for 7am and added Titty Chips Kitty Chips and milk to our shopping list. "You have two items on your shopping list...."
 
2017-09-14 12:38:41 PM  

GrailOfThunder: beezeltown: I guess I'm a cynical old luddite, but I can't stand the idea of some internet-connected device listening to everything in my home.

Whoopie, I can put orange juice on the shopping list with a few words. I sure don't want to feel like I can't express my feelings about my boss to my wife or talk about sensitive topics because some Russian hacker asshole may find a way to record everything, then blackmail me later.

I definitely don't want Google listening in, then suggesting things based on  what my daughter says while she's playing. That's some creepy shiat.

It may sound paranoid, but similar things have happened.

I get the fact that what I type into a computer (like this posting) will be picked up and analyzed by a variety of sources. I just don't like the idea of opening the door to the rest of my home life.

Do you have a Smart TV? An Xbox? A smartphone? A Laptop with a built-in Webcam?

If so, chances are you're already being "listened to". Samsung has already admitted that some of their Smart TVs listen to every conversation in your home and transmit them (to Samsung).  Microsoft was accused of the same thing with their Xbox, but they used to deny it. I don't think they do anymore, since Cortana was released.  And your Smartphone, whether it be Android (Google) or iPhone (Siri) already listens to you and transmits everything back to them.  And of course we all know of the hackers that have broken into laptops and enabled the webcams/microphones.

Unless you have no electronics in your house, it's pretty hard to get away from remote monitoring these days.

At least with Google Home or Alexa, you know ahead of time you're being "listened to" by default instead of surreptitiously.


Firewall rules and DNS blacklists. Though admittedly not for everyone, it's possible to limit who devices are allowed to talk to, when they're allowed to talk, and even if they're allowed to talk. It's still my network and my internet connection. I decide what data flows across it.
 
2017-09-14 12:41:07 PM  
Are they still making that show?  And subby, come on now, no one that owns a home is going to be watching South Park.  Just the idea that...oh...Google Home is a product for the home.  Well you learn something every day.
 
2017-09-14 12:45:31 PM  

skyotter: I haven't watched South Park in decades, but I'm certain that it's exactly as bad as I imagine it!

/yeah, y'all sound like this


See also: Simpsons and SNL threads.
 
2017-09-14 12:48:43 PM  

I Ate Shergar: KarmicDisaster: Queue the xkcd

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Now doing that would have been funny.
 
2017-09-14 12:49:57 PM  
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This thread
 
2017-09-14 12:50:35 PM  
Damn this place has really turned into nothing but a bunch of whiny children.
 
2017-09-14 12:51:19 PM  

GanjSmokr: Altoid: You guessed wrong.    The show was played out years ago, at least for me.

And so you assume everyone else feels the same way, so you are "shocked" that anyone still watches it.  Gotcha.

maxandgrinch: GanjSmokr: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Let me guess... you don't even own a TV and you probably need to be at the gym soon.

/yes, I still watch SP and enjoy it.  Along with all the other shows you are probably above watching.
//and I eat at the restaurants you think are horrible.

I'd also venture: you listen to bands we've never heard of, and have all their music from before that guy, with the growl and OMG do you remember his hair?, who used to be in that other band that was great, started producing them and they got like 100 times better. You probably also collect all the work of this artist chick you used to bang, 'cause she's gotta breakout soon, and then this really deep and insightful sculpture work will be worth more than the metal recycler would pay....

Not all of us are such bohemian renegades - tone it down a bit please.


/next time, don't co-sign a student loan for music and art school for someone who isn't your child

I have to assume that was directed towards Altoid.  Because I'm pretty much the opposite of what you just described.


You're really upset that someone doesn't like the same show you do, aren't you champ? Wanna talk about it?
 
2017-09-14 12:52:20 PM  

Altoid: You guessed wrong. The show was played out years ago, at least for me. Kind of like the Simspons. It was amazing for the first decade, but it's gotten stale.


Blasphemy, they still have some great episodes.  I couldn't watch The Deuce without expecting Butters to pop up in that diner scene with all the other pimps.
 
2017-09-14 12:53:04 PM  

blackminded: skyotter: I haven't watched South Park in decades, but I'm certain that it's exactly as bad as I imagine it!

/yeah, y'all sound like this

See also: Simpsons and SNL threads.


The Trump lampooning is still comedy gold. Otherwise, fark SNL, especially during the 1980s. Why the Simpsons are still on the air is strange, too.

Nostalgia. For the 1990s, What a concept.
 
2017-09-14 12:56:08 PM  

Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.


In other other news, people still watch TV.
 
2017-09-14 12:56:26 PM  

I Ate Shergar: KarmicDisaster: Queue the xkcd

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Amazon had that two for one Alexa deal a little while back.  My boss couldn't resist it, apparently.  Now we have an Alexa in the office.  She has dildos and creamed corn in her shopping cart.  We check every now and then if he got rid of it.  He hasn't.  If he did, though. we'd add them back in.

We didn't want her here.  But he's the boss... for a few more months until retirement.
 
2017-09-14 12:56:27 PM  
That iPhone Cookie Monster commercial where he asks Siri to set an alarm for 15 minutes actually made my phone set a timer for 15 minutes.
 
2017-09-14 12:56:36 PM  
The episode sucked.  It sucked good and hard.  Hand-waving away neo-nazis chants, hitting that oh so fresh decade old house flipper genre show, obvious joke over human alexas, cartman's prolonged scenes that served no purpose but to write out a character, rehashing a stale gag from a decade old episode, and not a single farking joke in all that mess.  All set-up, and poorly done.  It sucked I tell ya. SUCKED
 
2017-09-14 12:57:44 PM  

Matrix Flavored Wasabi: You're really upset


I'm more amused that someone thinks because they don't like something that everyone else dislikes that thing as well.

Your ability to detect emotions over the internet needs improvement.
 
2017-09-14 01:00:25 PM  
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2017-09-14 01:00:58 PM  
https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity?restrict=vaa

In case you're wondering what your phone or home has heard.
 
2017-09-14 01:01:29 PM  

whidbey: In other news, South Park is still on the air.

Come on, the show peaked over 10 years ago.


I don't know when I'd say it peaked, I haven't sat down to do a comparative quality analysis of each season, but last season cracked me up good.

Even if it did peak years ago I don't care, so long as it's still entertaining. A bad episode of a good show is still better than the best most shows can muster. I enjoy watching South Park.
 
2017-09-14 01:06:34 PM  

Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.


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2017-09-14 01:07:30 PM  
The real new season will come out next month in the form of the Fracture But Whole game. Already preordered.
 
2017-09-14 01:09:02 PM  

whidbey: blackminded: skyotter: I haven't watched South Park in decades, but I'm certain that it's exactly as bad as I imagine it!

/yeah, y'all sound like this

See also: Simpsons and SNL threads.

The Trump lampooning is still comedy gold. Otherwise, fark SNL, especially during the 1980s. Why the Simpsons are still on the air is strange, too.

Nostalgia. For the 1990s, What a concept.


Eddie Murphy alone is enough to make 80's SNL great.
 
2017-09-14 01:10:20 PM  
I have an Alexa and a couple of dots, heck i'm single so really nothing it is listening to in the house. Great for instant weather not only where you are at but where you might be headed, timer for cooking, music and pretty much any question you might use your phone or computer for but you can do it on the go instead of having to stop what you are doing. 

i read something a few months back that kids are becoming a little more rude due to not having to say please, thank you or things like that when talking to humans after spending time with alexa in the home
 
2017-09-14 01:11:00 PM  

abhorrent1: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

I can honestly say I've never seen a single episode. I'm only aware of it from memes on fark, which I don't understand.

I am the mayor of edgelordville.


Oh yeah, well I never watch it and I skip the memes on fark. I can't even spell SuTho Arkp or whatever it is you two fanboys are talking about.

I am the KING of Edgelordville so respect meh authoratie
 
2017-09-14 01:15:17 PM  

Rueened: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

In other other news, people still watch TV.


In other news still, Fark has more edginess than a ,um, truck full of Etch A Sketches going to, er, Sears -NO- Toys R Us (I don't know).
 
2017-09-14 01:18:13 PM  

blackminded: Percise1: the phone is minimized and often shunted into a drawer at home

FYI, unless you take the battery out of your phone, it's a pretty simple trick to turn on the mic and camera remotely. Hope you don't have n iPhone.


Not true, when the phones are powered off the radios are as well.  There's no communications occurring with a phone that's power is off.

My brother is one of the real "can you hear me now" guys with VZW.  He tests a lot of phones.  He gets new phones months before they are even released.  I don't know if it's part of their regular testing but I know he's checked many of his phones to see if there's any communications with the towers when powered down and so far he hasn't had one that did.  And you can check your wifi to see if it's still connected to that when it's powered down.  I've never seen one that was.

One way to be sure, fully charge your phone, turn it off and stick it in a Faraday bag overnight.  If it spent that much time trying to communicate with wifi or a tower the battery is going to go way down if not be completely dead.  When a phone is trying to find a tower it puts out a ton of signal that will run the battery down fast.
 
2017-09-14 01:19:19 PM  

SpectroBoy: abhorrent1: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

I can honestly say I've never seen a single episode. I'm only aware of it from memes on fark, which I don't understand.

I am the mayor of edgelordville.

Oh yeah, well I never watch it and I skip the memes on fark. I can't even spell SuTho Arkp or whatever it is you two fanboys are talking about.

I am the KING of Edgelordville so respect meh authoratie


I wasn't being sarcastic. I've never seen it.
 
2017-09-14 01:20:43 PM  

abhorrent1: SpectroBoy: abhorrent1: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

I can honestly say I've never seen a single episode. I'm only aware of it from memes on fark, which I don't understand.

I am the mayor of edgelordville.

Oh yeah, well I never watch it and I skip the memes on fark. I can't even spell SuTho Arkp or whatever it is you two fanboys are talking about.

I am the KING of Edgelordville so respect meh authoratie

I wasn't being sarcastic. I've never seen it.


Great contribution to the thread.
 
2017-09-14 01:28:35 PM  

KarmicDisaster: I personally don't understand the appeal of these devices, and you have to pay them for it? They should pay me to have one. Maybe if they paid me enough I'd let it listen to us, maybe.  I'm not really having any trouble ordering junk from my phone or laptop, thanks.


You would think that Amazon would give all their yearly Prime members with Amazon CCs a free Dot or FireTV stick(it has Alexa also), to get more sales.
 
2017-09-14 01:33:43 PM  

jjorsett: As soon as I saw where the episode was headed, I muted my Dot.


With duct tape?
 
2017-09-14 01:37:12 PM  
I'm 48 and have an Echo.  I ain't scared.

I love playing ANY music I can think of while drinking some beverage.  <----  That's a period.
 
2017-09-14 01:38:16 PM  

HydroMonkey: Altoid: HydroMonkey: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Heyoooo! Be careful not to cut yourself on that edge.

I honestly thought the show had played itself out years ago.   To each their own, I guess.

Not going to dispute your position, but I will agree that the "troll" story arc was absolutely horrible. Worse is the fact that they've run it damn near every single day since it originally aired.


The troll story arc was great...for maybe 2 episodes. Same thing with the PC principal.

I think one problem with the season long arc, is it feels like I'm watching the same episode over and over.

Let's hope the house renovation thing doesn't go further.
 
2017-09-14 01:42:22 PM  

lilfry14: HydroMonkey: Altoid: HydroMonkey: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Heyoooo! Be careful not to cut yourself on that edge.

I honestly thought the show had played itself out years ago.   To each their own, I guess.

Not going to dispute your position, but I will agree that the "troll" story arc was absolutely horrible. Worse is the fact that they've run it damn near every single day since it originally aired.

The troll story arc was great...for maybe 2 episodes. Same thing with the PC principal.

I think one problem with the season long arc, is it feels like I'm watching the same episode over and over.

Let's hope the house renovation thing doesn't go further.


Goddamn bingo.  The shiat is lazy and if the plot is a stinker, then that's gonna reek all season long.  And why the hell was Sharon deadpan the entire episode? I bet Stan is beating her, and the running gag becomes gratuitous domestic abuse with long drawn out scenes that reflect Matt & Trey's personal lives like Cartman's frustration with Heidi obviously does.
 
2017-09-14 01:58:12 PM  

Warrior Kermit: I have an Alexa and a couple of dots, heck i'm single so really nothing it is listening to in the house. Great for instant weather not only where you are at but where you might be headed, timer for cooking, music and pretty much any question you might use your phone or computer for but you can do it on the go instead of having to stop what you are doing. 

i read something a few months back that kids are becoming a little more rude due to not having to say please, thank you or things like that when talking to humans after spending time with alexa in the home


I wonder if there's a Mandatory Politeness option that can be enabled.  On the humans.
 
2017-09-14 02:05:09 PM  
Obviously South Park hired the manatees after giving up the season-long story trend the last few seasons. None of the gag balls clicked.
/phrasing , says Archer
//last good SP was the stuttering kid held hostage by the media; funniest in recent years was the episode where roosters were taught Magic the Gathering
 
2017-09-14 02:05:38 PM  

EmptyCup: delsydsoftware: I have an Echo Dot next to my PC. I never realized how many people say "Let's...uh" on Youtube videos until I put the Dot there...it interprets that as Alexa and goes nuts.

Holy cow! You may have solved a long running question in my house as to why Alexa every now and again will start responding out of what appears to be normal conversation. Thanks and plus one internet to you.


Now if someone would tell me why the xbox randomly turns on...(no mic).
 
2017-09-14 02:05:55 PM  

Warrior Kermit:
...
i read something a few months back that kids are becoming a little more rude due to not having to say please, thank you or things like that when talking to humans after spending time with alexa in the home


I always say please and thank you to Alexa. Thought about it, decided it was just good practice so I didn't get in the habit of demanding stuff from actual people. Even asked Alexa once if she cared if I said please and thank you, she said she wasn't sure [shrug].
 
2017-09-14 02:08:17 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: I haven't watched SP in a while. Is it still shock humor and starry eyed libertarianism?


You noticed that huh?
 
2017-09-14 02:08:51 PM  
We used to have a dot, made the mistake of changing the wake up word to computer then watching Star Trek.
 
2017-09-14 02:11:29 PM  
When I'm at an Echo-owner's house, I wait until they are out of the room and tell Alexa to set a 4:00 am alarm.
 
2017-09-14 02:11:52 PM  

Subtonic: lilfry14: 

Let's hope the house renovation thing doesn't go further.

Goddamn bingo.  The shiat is lazy and if the plot is a stinker, then that's gonna reek all season long.  And why the hell was Sharon deadpan the entire episode? I bet Stan is beating her, and the running gag becomes gratuitous domestic abuse with long drawn out scenes that reflect Matt & Trey's personal lives like Cartman's frustration with Heidi obviously does.


I didn't get the deadpan Sharon, but I don't watch home renovating shows. I assumed it was supposed to represent some character or stereotype from on one of those shows.
 
2017-09-14 02:13:38 PM  

Don the Plastic Shroud: When I'm at an Echo-owner's house, I wait until they are out of the room and tell Alexa to set a 4:00 am alarm.


My Echo would have told you there's already an alarm set for that time.
 
2017-09-14 02:15:43 PM  

maxandgrinch: GanjSmokr: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Let me guess... you don't even own a TV and you probably need to be at the gym soon.

/yes, I still watch SP and enjoy it.  Along with all the other shows you are probably above watching.
//and I eat at the restaurants you think are horrible.

I'd also venture: you listen to bands we've never heard of, and have all their music from before that guy, with the growl and OMG do you remember his hair?, who used to be in that other band that was great, started producing them and they got like 100 times better. You probably also collect all the work of this artist chick you used to bang, 'cause she's gotta breakout soon, and then this really deep and insightful sculpture work will be worth more than the metal recycler would pay....

Not all of us are such bohemian renegades - tone it down a bit please.


/next time, don't co-sign a student loan for music and art school for someone who isn't your child


You left out man bun and neckbeard.

Question: How many tats and piercings?
 
2017-09-14 02:16:57 PM  

lilfry14: HydroMonkey: Altoid: HydroMonkey: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Heyoooo! Be careful not to cut yourself on that edge.

I honestly thought the show had played itself out years ago.   To each their own, I guess.

Not going to dispute your position, but I will agree that the "troll" story arc was absolutely horrible. Worse is the fact that they've run it damn near every single day since it originally aired.

The troll story arc was great...for maybe 2 episodes. Same thing with the PC principal.

I think one problem with the season long arc, is it feels like I'm watching the same episode over and over.

Let's hope the house renovation thing doesn't go further.


Matt & Trey have already said that they're not doing any serialized stuff this season.
 
2017-09-14 02:23:03 PM  

KarmicDisaster: I personally don't understand the appeal of these devices, and you have to pay them for it? They should pay me to have one. Maybe if they paid me enough I'd let it listen to us, maybe.  I'm not really having any trouble ordering junk from my phone or laptop, thanks.


I have one, and have never used it to buy anything. I use it to manage my home automation system (lights & AC mostly) and play music (for us) & sounds (for the dogs and bird). It is only in the living room, and so it doesn't get any juicy details - not that I care what Amazon does or does not have from my conversations. I use a Gmail account and don't particularly care what Google does with that, either, so there ya go.

I am looking forward to the day when my parrot figures out he can order pistachios from his cage though - ImNotEvenMad.jpg
 
2017-09-14 02:27:34 PM  

Mr.Uncle.Bill: I'm 48 and have an Echo.  I ain't scared.

I love playing ANY music I can think of while drinking some beverage.  <----  That's a period.

Rolls eyes...

I guess if you like that soulless cooperate "music" you can find of streaming services ...Sips tea..
 
2017-09-14 02:30:02 PM  
My Kindle has Alexa, but I have to press and hold a button to get her to listen. Just like my ex.
 
2017-09-14 02:30:53 PM  

God's Hobo Penis: KarmicDisaster: I personally don't understand the appeal of these devices, and you have to pay them for it? They should pay me to have one. Maybe if they paid me enough I'd let it listen to us, maybe.  I'm not really having any trouble ordering junk from my phone or laptop, thanks.

I have one, and have never used it to buy anything. I use it to manage my home automation system (lights & AC mostly) and play music (for us) & sounds (for the dogs and bird). It is only in the living room, and so it doesn't get any juicy details - not that I care what Amazon does or does not have from my conversations. I use a Gmail account and don't particularly care what Google does with that, either, so there ya go.

I am looking forward to the day when my parrot figures out he can order pistachios from his cage though - ImNotEvenMad.jpg


it's good for music and good for timeouts heh "get your arse to your room! Alexa, set a timer for 10 minutes". I have a hammock in my living room  so it's nice to be in the hammock and just talk to Alexa instead of holding my phone in front of my face. I've used it a few times to order stuff, once I just yelled to order toothpaste on the way out the door to school and it actually worked pretty well, just had to confirm that's what i wanted and that's that. I linked it with Dominos so i can just say "alexa dominos order pizza" and it will order a pizza i have set as default.

all in all i really like it
 
2017-09-14 02:34:07 PM  

Callous: blackminded: Percise1: the phone is minimized and often shunted into a drawer at home

FYI, unless you take the battery out of your phone, it's a pretty simple trick to turn on the mic and camera remotely. Hope you don't have n iPhone.

Not true, when the phones are powered off the radios are as well.  There's no communications occurring with a phone that's power is off.

My brother is one of the real "can you hear me now" guys with VZW.  He tests a lot of phones.  He gets new phones months before they are even released.  I don't know if it's part of their regular testing but I know he's checked many of his phones to see if there's any communications with the towers when powered down and so far he hasn't had one that did.  And you can check your wifi to see if it's still connected to that when it's powered down.  I've never seen one that was.

One way to be sure, fully charge your phone, turn it off and stick it in a Faraday bag overnight.  If it spent that much time trying to communicate with wifi or a tower the battery is going to go way down if not be completely dead.  When a phone is trying to find a tower it puts out a ton of signal that will run the battery down fast.


Well, not an Iphone, and the cameras are useless if it is in a drawer, and besides, screen up the main camera is useless and the selfie camera is disabled. Phone also shuts off WiFi connection when it hibernates

I learned this with a dumb phone I had. The battery would normally last a week but I went camping up the coast for the weekend, and it was completely drained. I verified that it had been screaming in the dark for a signal until it died, much like many of my fellow campers.

/damn, JUST KIDDING!
 
2017-09-14 02:38:34 PM  

astouffer: Damn this place has really turned into nothing but a bunch of whiny children.


Everyone sounds extremely poor, too.

I mean, $1000 for a phone is chump change.  What do you people do for a living, anyway?

When someone says to me, "I can't afford $1000," my response is usually, "You misunderstood, I said, please refill my Diet Coke."
 
2017-09-14 02:40:53 PM  

COMALite J: What does Echo / Alexa do that Cortana can't?

GrailOfThunder: beezeltown: I guess I'm a cynical old luddite, but I can't stand the idea of some internet-connected device listening to everything in my home.

Whoopie, I can put orange juice on the shopping list with a few words. I sure don't want to feel like I can't express my feelings about my boss to my wife or talk about sensitive topics because some Russian hacker asshole may find a way to record everything, then blackmail me later.

I definitely don't want Google listening in, then suggesting things based on  what my daughter says while she's playing. That's some creepy shiat.

It may sound paranoid, but similar things have happened.

I get the fact that what I type into a computer (like this posting) will be picked up and analyzed by a variety of sources. I just don't like the idea of opening the door to the rest of my home life.

Do you have a Smart TV? An Xbox? A smartphone? A Laptop with a built-in Webcam?

If so, chances are you're already being "listened to". Samsung has already admitted that some of their Smart TVs listen to every conversation in your home and transmit them (to Samsung).  Microsoft was accused of the same thing with their Xbox, but they used to deny it. I don't think they do anymore, since Cortana was released.  And your Smartphone, whether it be Android (Google) or iPhone (Siri) already listens to you and transmits everything back to them.  And of course we all know of the hackers that have broken into laptops and enabled the webcams/microphones.

Unless you have no electronics in your house, it's pretty hard to get away from remote monitoring these days.

At least with Google Home or Alexa, you know ahead of time you're being "listened to" by default instead of surreptitiously.
Don't get Samsung's new Intelligent Assistant angry. You wouldn't like him, when he's angry.


Dnno, never used Cortana; but I like Alexa over Google Home for stuff outside the Google ecosystem. The Alexa Skills really make the thing useful, but I don't know to what extent other systems have utilized similar extensibility for usability.

I can control my Iris home automation system through Alexa, but I have no idea if Google Home or Cortana could manage it. Similarly, I am invested in Amazon's music system, and that plays right into it's use as a smart speaker - I couldn't leverage that through another voice control service.

Google is great for answering questions, but Alexa does the same thing *and* controls all my crap. Cortana... probably works, but I figure it is like IE & Bing - technically functional, but no one actually uses it in any serious capacity. I certainly haven't been able to do anything useful with the built-in version in Windows.
 
2017-09-14 02:45:42 PM  

DrewCurtisJr: Mr.Uncle.Bill: I'm 48 and have an Echo.  I ain't scared.

I love playing ANY music I can think of while drinking some beverage.  <----  That's a period.

Rolls eyes... I guess if you like that soulless cooperate "music" you can find of streaming services ...Sips tea..


Plenty of obscure stuff on spotify, especially new stuff, though some is only on band camp or rarely sound cloud.
 
2017-09-14 02:46:00 PM  

Nexzus: GrailOfThunder: beezeltown: I guess I'm a cynical old luddite, but I can't stand the idea of some internet-connected device listening to everything in my home.

Whoopie, I can put orange juice on the shopping list with a few words. I sure don't want to feel like I can't express my feelings about my boss to my wife or talk about sensitive topics because some Russian hacker asshole may find a way to record everything, then blackmail me later.

I definitely don't want Google listening in, then suggesting things based on  what my daughter says while she's playing. That's some creepy shiat.

It may sound paranoid, but similar things have happened.

I get the fact that what I type into a computer (like this posting) will be picked up and analyzed by a variety of sources. I just don't like the idea of opening the door to the rest of my home life.

Do you have a Smart TV? An Xbox? A smartphone? A Laptop with a built-in Webcam?

If so, chances are you're already being "listened to". Samsung has already admitted that some of their Smart TVs listen to every conversation in your home and transmit them (to Samsung).  Microsoft was accused of the same thing with their Xbox, but they used to deny it. I don't think they do anymore, since Cortana was released.  And your Smartphone, whether it be Android (Google) or iPhone (Siri) already listens to you and transmits everything back to them.  And of course we all know of the hackers that have broken into laptops and enabled the webcams/microphones.

Unless you have no electronics in your house, it's pretty hard to get away from remote monitoring these days.

At least with Google Home or Alexa, you know ahead of time you're being "listened to" by default instead of surreptitiously.

Firewall rules and DNS blacklists. Though admittedly not for everyone, it's possible to limit who devices are allowed to talk to, when they're allowed to talk, and even if they're allowed to talk. It's still my network and my internet connection. I decide w ...


Yeah, but that removes the convenience factor. The enemy of security is usability - if something is too secure to be used, it won't be, and if there are alternatives, the security will be circumvented.

So, create an Alexa rule for applying or removing the firewall rules so that you can quickly & easil- waitaminute.

Curses! Foiled again!
 
2017-09-14 02:49:03 PM  

God's Hobo Penis: Dnno, never used Cortana; but I like Alexa over Google Home for stuff outside the Google ecosystem. The Alexa Skills really make the thing useful, but I don't know to what extent other systems have utilized similar extensibility for usability.

I can control my Iris home automation system through Alexa, but I have no idea if Google Home or Cortana could manage it. Similarly, I am invested in Amazon's music system, and that plays right into it's use as a smart speaker - I couldn't leverage that through another voice control service.

Google is great for answering questions, but Alexa does the same thing *and* controls all my crap. Cortana... probably works, but I figure it is like IE & Bing - technically functional, but no one actually uses it in any serious capacity. I certainly haven't been able to do anything useful with the built-in version in Windows.


I love my Alexa, I don't give a rat's ass about anyone listening in on me.  The only problem I have with it is, I can't get it to properly integrate with my Harmony remote.  I haven't tried in a while, so maybe the Harmony skill has been improved since I last tried.
 
2017-09-14 02:49:12 PM  

Pocket Ninja: No, you were a very intentional part of the joke. And if you then went and posted under some stupid hashtag about it, you were a very intentional tool used to further the joke. But hey, SOCIAL MEDIA.


Are the people who ridicule them on social media part of the joke?
 
2017-09-14 02:53:08 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: KarmicDisaster: I personally don't understand the appeal of these devices, and you have to pay them for it? They should pay me to have one. Maybe if they paid me enough I'd let it listen to us, maybe.  I'm not really having any trouble ordering junk from my phone or laptop, thanks.

You would think that Amazon would give all their yearly Prime members with Amazon CCs a free Dot or FireTV stick(it has Alexa also), to get more sales.


I always thought that they would give the fire phone away free too, but noooooo, they wanted people to pay for it to show them ads and then if flopped.
 
2017-09-14 02:54:35 PM  

I Ate Shergar: KarmicDisaster: Queue the xkcd

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XKCD is assuming that Amazon does not already have his voice print on record.   He might find that creamed corn waiting for him when he gets home.
 
2017-09-14 02:59:01 PM  

Callous: blackminded: Percise1: the phone is minimized and often shunted into a drawer at home

FYI, unless you take the battery out of your phone, it's a pretty simple trick to turn on the mic and camera remotely. Hope you don't have n iPhone.

Not true, when the phones are powered off the radios are as well.  There's no communications occurring with a phone that's power is off.

My brother is one of the real "can you hear me now" guys with VZW.  He tests a lot of phones.  He gets new phones months before they are even released.  I don't know if it's part of their regular testing but I know he's checked many of his phones to see if there's any communications with the towers when powered down and so far he hasn't had one that did.  And you can check your wifi to see if it's still connected to that when it's powered down.  I've never seen one that was.

One way to be sure, fully charge your phone, turn it off and stick it in a Faraday bag overnight.  If it spent that much time trying to communicate with wifi or a tower the battery is going to go way down if not be completely dead.  When a phone is trying to find a tower it puts out a ton of signal that will run the battery down fast.


By default, no, when powered down they don't try to connect - but that is because no one wants to get caught with that crap again after Apple was caught tracking GPS and I think Verizon was doing the same, by default.

However a 'pwnd' phone could do it by loading altered firmware, usually a bootloader or recovery image that runs underneath the main OS. This is one of the reasons why there are like 5 steps to unlock an Android before imaging, assuming you have bootloader access at all.

The problem is being able to detect being 'pwnd'; it is simply safer & easier to assume that it has been when discussing something truly sensitive, which is why Edward Snowden put phones inside a refrigerator when discussing his work with others - he had a pretty good idea of what was possible, and wanted as little risk as possible of surveillance and so placed potential listening devices inside a makeshift faraday cage.

Overkill? Maybe. Easy? Safe? You betcha. Be silly to do otherwise, given the stakes. For most people going about their daily lives? That'd be like wearing a tinfoil hat...
 
2017-09-14 03:00:20 PM  

12349876: DrewCurtisJr: Mr.Uncle.Bill: I'm 48 and have an Echo.  I ain't scared.

I love playing ANY music I can think of while drinking some beverage.  <----  That's a period.

Rolls eyes... I guess if you like that soulless cooperate "music" you can find of streaming services ...Sips tea..

Plenty of obscure stuff on spotify, especially new stuff, though some is only on band camp or rarely sound cloud.


Not obscure enough for me. Mark Germino, Rank & File album. No luck finding it streamable anywhere.
 
2017-09-14 03:02:53 PM  

Rueened: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

In other other news, people still watch TV.


But sometimes, when I watch TV, it's not on TV
 
2017-09-14 03:03:12 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: KarmicDisaster: I personally don't understand the appeal of these devices, and you have to pay them for it? They should pay me to have one. Maybe if they paid me enough I'd let it listen to us, maybe.  I'm not really having any trouble ordering junk from my phone or laptop, thanks.

You would think that Amazon would give all their yearly Prime members with Amazon CCs a free Dot or FireTV stick(it has Alexa also), to get more sales.


They do that for the Dot buttons; it's $5, but on your first press, you get a $5 credit off your purchase, effectively making the device free. I assume it's so people don't just order them for free for parts or something; I imagine there would be a similar problem with making their other devices 'free' - people would abuse it to get a bunch of ARM SoCs or something.
 
2017-09-14 03:04:10 PM  

Nick Nostril: Or you could just offer to house your own, personal NSA security professional.

/ foiler


Yeah,. but agent johnson just grumbles angrily when you ask *him* to turn the lights off...
 
2017-09-14 03:05:56 PM  

God's Hobo Penis: However a 'pwnd' phone could do it by loading altered firmware, usually a bootloader or recovery image that runs underneath the main OS.


This is the important part, and there are a dozen ways to do it that do not require physical access to your phone. It's kinda cool actually, mostly because I work a blue collar gig now and don't give three shiats whether or not the Chinese know where I am.

/freedom
//blissful freedom
 
2017-09-14 03:07:08 PM  
Oh, I want to amend my previous by saying that if local law enforcement gets there hands on what the IC is using, my outrage will return tenfold. This is why the psychopath in the White House is going to do so much damage long-term. It's bad enough your local PD can use drones.

/night night everyone
 
2017-09-14 03:07:19 PM  

lilfry14: Subtonic: lilfry14:

Let's hope the house renovation thing doesn't go further.

Goddamn bingo.  The shiat is lazy and if the plot is a stinker, then that's gonna reek all season long.  And why the hell was Sharon deadpan the entire episode? I bet Stan is beating her, and the running gag becomes gratuitous domestic abuse with long drawn out scenes that reflect Matt & Trey's personal lives like Cartman's frustration with Heidi obviously does.

I didn't get the deadpan Sharon, but I don't watch home renovating shows. I assumed it was supposed to represent some character or stereotype from on one of those shows.


They were parodying Chip & Joanna Gaines from HGTV's 'Fixer Upper' but I didn't get deadpan Sharon either. You really do need that load-bearing wall, though!
Fixer Upper
 
2017-09-14 03:15:40 PM  

Unikitty: EmptyCup: delsydsoftware: I have an Echo Dot next to my PC. I never realized how many people say "Let's...uh" on Youtube videos until I put the Dot there...it interprets that as Alexa and goes nuts.

Holy cow! You may have solved a long running question in my house as to why Alexa every now and again will start responding out of what appears to be normal conversation. Thanks and plus one internet to you.

Now if someone would tell me why the xbox randomly turns on...(no mic).


Are you in the preview program? If so, several people have been complaining about this since the new dashboard update. If not, I am not sure as I haven't heard anyone not with the preview program experiencing those issues.
 
2017-09-14 03:20:14 PM  

Altoid: HydroMonkey: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

Heyoooo! Be careful not to cut yourself on that edge.

I honestly thought the show had played itself out years ago.   To each their own, I guess.


Then you have cheated yourself out of some great episodes.
 
2017-09-14 03:24:07 PM  
Thanks for taking the moment to respond. I honestly am not sure, how would I determine that?
 
2017-09-14 03:30:31 PM  
I bet THAT'S what happened!

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"Alexa, repeat that email"

"OK Hillary, deleting emails."
 
2017-09-14 03:31:57 PM  

abhorrent1: SpectroBoy: abhorrent1: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

I can honestly say I've never seen a single episode. I'm only aware of it from memes on fark, which I don't understand.

I am the mayor of edgelordville.

Oh yeah, well I never watch it and I skip the memes on fark. I can't even spell SuTho Arkp or whatever it is you two fanboys are talking about.

I am the KING of Edgelordville so respect meh authoratie

I wasn't being sarcastic. I've never seen it.


Start with this clip: (nsfw)
South Park - The Spirit of Christmas 1995 short (2nd ever short)
Youtube qyyeRnDCG3I
 
2017-09-14 03:32:23 PM  
South Park threads are interesting on Fark these days.  Once the most praised show of GenXer's and early Millennials.  Now (based on comments) it would seem that younger Millennialls have turned on South Park and seem to actual despise it.  What gives?
 
2017-09-14 03:34:23 PM  

Peter_B_Risen: South Park threads are interesting on Fark these days.  Once the most praised show of GenXer's and early Millennials.  Now (based on comments) it would seem that younger Millennialls have turned on South Park and seem to actual despise it.  What gives?


it's now a dad show.
all the cool kids watch twitch
 
2017-09-14 03:43:44 PM  
Subby had a joke... Look at all those titties to the right.
 
2017-09-14 03:46:45 PM  
Hope next week SP goes back to being funny instead of whatever last night it was supposed to be. If SP wants to try again, talk to Aaron McGruder about how to make it funny and a biting social commentary.
 
2017-09-14 04:02:45 PM  
Is it not possible to simply change the activation phrase?  If not, why the hell have they not implemented that yet?
And if they have, then why don't people immediately do that when they set it up?
 
2017-09-14 04:30:44 PM  

Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.


I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have a smartphone/computer/furniture/electricity/running water/etc. etc. in their house.
 
2017-09-14 04:32:32 PM  

durbnpoisn: Is it not possible to simply change the activation phrase?  If not, why the hell have they not implemented that yet?
And if they have, then why don't people immediately do that when they set it up?


It's called the "wake word". Currently, the only choices are Alexa, Echo, and Computer. The last one they reluctantly added to appease Trekkies.

I'd like to see user-defined wake words. Read somewhere that takes compute power.
 
2017-09-14 04:40:06 PM  

StatelyGreekAutomaton: Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.

I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have a smartphone/computer/furniture/electricity/running water/etc. etc. in their house.


A lot of "intelligent" people even have indoor outhouses!  Right there in their house!  Can you imagine the smell?!
 
2017-09-14 04:46:52 PM  

GrailOfThunder: Do you have a Smart TV? An Xbox? A smartphone?


No
 
2017-09-14 04:47:28 PM  

AnotherBluesStringer: nobody is really as interesting as they think they are.


You think these companies DON"T want your marketing info?

Boy howdy, I've got a bridge you might like to buy!
 
2017-09-14 04:53:42 PM  

skyotter: StatelyGreekAutomaton: Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.

I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have a smartphone/computer/furniture/electricity/running water/etc. etc. in their house.

A lot of "intelligent" people even have indoor outhouses!  Right there in their house!  Can you imagine the smell?!


Let me see if I have this straight.   In you world the toilet and indoor plumbing, probably the biggest factor in disease control and increases human longevity to date, is somehow only in the same league as being able to order a case of Funyuns by voice.
 
2017-09-14 04:58:44 PM  

Vaginosilicosis: skyotter: StatelyGreekAutomaton: Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.

I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have a smartphone/computer/furniture/electricity/running water/etc. etc. in their house.

A lot of "intelligent" people even have indoor outhouses!  Right there in their house!  Can you imagine the smell?!

Let me see if I have this straight.   In you world the toilet and indoor plumbing, probably the biggest factor in disease control and increases human longevity to date, is somehow only in the same league as being able to order a case of Funyuns by voice.


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2017-09-14 05:13:23 PM  

Peter_B_Risen: South Park threads are interesting on Fark these days.  Once the most praised show of GenXer's and early Millennials.  Now (based on comments) it would seem that younger Millennialls have turned on South Park and seem to actual despise it.  What gives?


They made fun of PC puritans instead of mormons and Republicans.
 
2017-09-14 05:15:35 PM  

StatelyGreekAutomaton: Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.

I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have a smartphone/computer/furniture/electricity/running water/etc. etc. in their house.


Yes, because a device that expressly and intentionally listens to your private conversations and records them forever is exactly like sitting on furniture.

/wow, the edges in this thread!
 
2017-09-14 05:30:33 PM  

fictional_character: listens to your private conversations and records them forever


citation needed
 
2017-09-14 05:45:01 PM  

WhiskeyBender: Last night's episode had a joke in it?


You missed the "they took or jerbs" guy, having his problems solved by having his gunrack replaced by a Bonzai tree?
 
2017-09-14 05:50:24 PM  
Farking Clown Shoes:

Even Randy's show was stupid. He wasn't house-flipping - he was just renovating people's houses.

I can't recall Randy ever doing anything that wasn't stupid. That's his character.
 
2017-09-14 05:55:06 PM  

durbnpoisn: Is it not possible to simply change the activation phrase?  If not, why the hell have they not implemented that yet?
And if they have, then why don't people immediately do that when they set it up?


I'm more curious as to why the devices aren't trained to only listen to certain voices.

Like, my Android phone reacts to "OK Google". But I had to train it to my voice. It ignores everyone else, why is Alexa different?

/"OK Google" just felt sorry that it upset me, by the request of going farking itself btw.
 
2017-09-14 05:59:46 PM  

Somaticasual: Nick Nostril: Or you could just offer to house your own, personal NSA security professional.

/ foiler

Yeah,. but agent johnson just grumbles angrily when you ask *him* to turn the lights off...


Offer him a blowie. He'll turn the lights off.
 
2017-09-14 06:41:47 PM  

washington-babylon: 12349876: DrewCurtisJr: Mr.Uncle.Bill: I'm 48 and have an Echo.  I ain't scared.

I love playing ANY music I can think of while drinking some beverage.  <----  That's a period.

Rolls eyes... I guess if you like that soulless cooperate "music" you can find of streaming services ...Sips tea..

Plenty of obscure stuff on spotify, especially new stuff, though some is only on band camp or rarely sound cloud.

Not obscure enough for me. Mark Germino, Rank & File album. No luck finding it streamable anywhere.


268 facebook likes not obscure enough for you for a band whose first EP has been out for 18 months?

https://www.facebook.com/BlindExistence.Official/
 
2017-09-14 07:08:19 PM  

skyotter: My Kindle has Alexa, but I have to press and hold a button to get her to listen. Just like my ex.


Same here. Lol.
 
2017-09-14 07:15:23 PM  
I like the alexa app on kindle, you have to press a button for it to start listening, and it has a visual when it is listening. I'd buy an alexa/google/etc stand alone device if it let me use a physical remote (like insignia on TNG) to tell it "now listen here"
 
2017-09-14 07:26:08 PM  

LabGrrl: I like the alexa app on kindle, you have to press a button for it to start listening, and it has a visual when it is listening. I'd buy an alexa/google/etc stand alone device if it let me use a physical remote (like insignia on TNG) to tell it "now listen here"


Well obviously they have remotes for Alexa, but I do not know if the remotes work if the base unit is muted.  Good question!
 
2017-09-14 07:27:56 PM  

Altoid: The show was played out years ago, at least for me.   Kind of like the Simspons.   It was amazing for the first decade, but it's gotten stale.


Agreed...I think they still come up with some great themes but the execution has gone downhill.  When I saw a south park on my DVR I was all cool a new south park!  And when I saw they were going to parody both alexa and confederate flag nonsense I thought this is going to be good...then it was meh.
 
2017-09-14 07:35:15 PM  

12349876: washington-babylon: 12349876: DrewCurtisJr: Mr.Uncle.Bill: I'm 48 and have an Echo.  I ain't scared.

I love playing ANY music I can think of while drinking some beverage.  <----  That's a period.

Rolls eyes... I guess if you like that soulless cooperate "music" you can find of streaming services ...Sips tea..

Plenty of obscure stuff on spotify, especially new stuff, though some is only on band camp or rarely sound cloud.

Not obscure enough for me. Mark Germino, Rank & File album. No luck finding it streamable anywhere.

268 facebook likes not obscure enough for you for a band whose first EP has been out for 18 months?

https://www.facebook.com/BlindExistence.Official/


You sure you're not confusing "obscure" with "pretty new as bands go" ? Because there's a band living in the apartment above me who have never cut an EP ever, but plays local bars a bit and are pretty good. I haven't said anything about them when they practice, and they occasionally leave invitations stuck to my door to come see them play since I don't make noise complaints to the complex. But they're not "Obscure"  they are just a newer band. They've only been playing publicly for a year and a half. Mark Germino is somewhat obscure though, and his rather excellent Rank & File album is worth listening to if you can find a copy. It seems to have missed the digital streaming train by a mile though. The reason I said he's somewhat obscure is that he is known in older DJ circles for one song.
 
2017-09-14 07:44:26 PM  
I'm betting the "ZOMG ALEXA IS RECORDING EVERY TIME U FART!!!" people are the type who will immediately rush to Facebook to say the exact same thing after posting what they ate for dinner and where they're going this weekend.
 
2017-09-14 08:24:03 PM  

Ketchuponsteak: I'm more curious as to why the devices aren't trained to only listen to certain voices.

Like, my Android phone reacts to "OK Google". But I had to train it to my voice. It ignores everyone else, why is Alexa different?

/"OK Google" just felt sorry that it upset me, by the request of going farking itself btw.


They actually just added that to Google Home - so I can say "what's on my agenda for today" and it'll read from my Google calendar, and my wife can do the same thing and it'll read from hers - it can tell our voices apart.
 
2017-09-14 10:38:20 PM  

washington-babylon: 12349876: washington-babylon: 12349876: DrewCurtisJr: Mr.Uncle.Bill: I'm 48 and have an Echo.  I ain't scared.

I love playing ANY music I can think of while drinking some beverage.  <----  That's a period.

Rolls eyes... I guess if you like that soulless cooperate "music" you can find of streaming services ...Sips tea..

Plenty of obscure stuff on spotify, especially new stuff, though some is only on band camp or rarely sound cloud.

Not obscure enough for me. Mark Germino, Rank & File album. No luck finding it streamable anywhere.

268 facebook likes not obscure enough for you for a band whose first EP has been out for 18 months?

https://www.facebook.com/BlindExistence.Official/

You sure you're not confusing "obscure" with "pretty new as bands go" ? Because there's a band living in the apartment above me who have never cut an EP ever, but plays local bars a bit and are pretty good. I haven't said anything about them when they practice, and they occasionally leave invitations stuck to my door to come see them play since I don't make noise complaints to the complex. But they're not "Obscure"  they are just a newer band. They've only been playing publicly for a year and a half. Mark Germino is somewhat obscure though, and his rather excellent Rank & File album is worth listening to if you can find a copy. It seems to have missed the digital streaming train by a mile though. The reason I said he's somewhat obscure is that he is known in older DJ circles for one song.


Your CSB band may very well have more than 268 facebook likes.  Many young bands have more even if it's just a low four digit number.

So try this one.  Debut album 2003, only non removed social media I can find is MySpace, they have a common name for other bands and other stuff in general so it's hard to find anything about them unless you know they're from Idaho and they're on Spotify (mixed in with the other same name bands).

https://store.cdbaby.com/Artist/Pravda
 
2017-09-15 12:33:03 AM  

jst3p: Altoid: In other news, people still watch South Park.

And post about it on an ancient web forum.


Fark got old after the first six posts...
 
2017-09-15 12:37:55 AM  
I thought cartman's plot line with Heidi was alluding to gaslighting. Sharon deadpan as cohost struck me as she was kind of uncomfortable in front of the camera as most people are and randy was being such an over the top douche anyway.
 
2017-09-15 12:57:25 AM  

brap: Damn, I missed the latest episode of Today's Headlines Rendered In Construction Paper?


and you read about it here on "Today's headlines translated into unfunny derp" dot com.
 
2017-09-15 02:16:57 AM  

brantgoose: South Park tends to be very inclusive. Everybody is part of the joke. South Park Conservatives and South Park Liberals, everybody. Some people (cough, cough, Conservatives, cough, cough) don't recognize that they are the brunt of of the joke, but then we are talking the people who loved Archie Bunker and said he was telling it like it is, by which they meant, telling it like it isn't but their deluded ideaologies tell them it is.

Mind, until liberals realize that when they watch these shows, the Cons are not laughing with them, but at them, there will be little change.

A little bit Country, a little bit Rock 'n' Roll. A whole lot of Soul and Blues. Cultural expropriation is for everybody. Music just wants to be free. And get paid.

Show up. Get paid. The key to success in music.


You sir, are about the most random farker I've ever had the pleasure to meet on the internet, or in real life. I don't always get where you're coming from, but more often than not, I see where you're going. Keep up the crazy ramblings good sir. 😀
 
2017-09-15 02:42:31 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: Farking Clown Shoes:

Even Randy's show was stupid. He wasn't house-flipping - he was just renovating people's houses.

I can't recall Randy ever doing anything that wasn't stupid. That's his character.


I mean the premise was stupid: it was announced as a "house-flipping" show and then just ended up being renovations for people's houses. Are you saying they meant to do that? That Randy wouldn't know the difference between house-flipping and house renovation?
 
2017-09-15 08:29:16 AM  

12349876: washington-babylon: 12349876: washington-babylon: 12349876: DrewCurtisJr: Mr.Uncle.Bill: I'm 48 and have an Echo.  I ain't scared.

I love playing ANY music I can think of while drinking some beverage.  <----  That's a period.

Rolls eyes... I guess if you like that soulless cooperate "music" you can find of streaming services ...Sips tea..

Plenty of obscure stuff on spotify, especially new stuff, though some is only on band camp or rarely sound cloud.

Not obscure enough for me. Mark Germino, Rank & File album. No luck finding it streamable anywhere.

268 facebook likes not obscure enough for you for a band whose first EP has been out for 18 months?

https://www.facebook.com/BlindExistence.Official/

You sure you're not confusing "obscure" with "pretty new as bands go" ? Because there's a band living in the apartment above me who have never cut an EP ever, but plays local bars a bit and are pretty good. I haven't said anything about them when they practice, and they occasionally leave invitations stuck to my door to come see them play since I don't make noise complaints to the complex. But they're not "Obscure"  they are just a newer band. They've only been playing publicly for a year and a half. Mark Germino is somewhat obscure though, and his rather excellent Rank & File album is worth listening to if you can find a copy. It seems to have missed the digital streaming train by a mile though. The reason I said he's somewhat obscure is that he is known in older DJ circles for one song.

Your CSB band may very well have more than 268 facebook likes.  Many young bands have more even if it's just a low four digit number.

So try this one.  Debut album 2003, only non removed social media I can find is MySpace, they have a common name for other bands and other stuff in general so it's hard to find anything about them unless you know they're from Idaho and they're on Spotify (mixed in with the other same name bands).

https://store.cdbaby.com/Artist/Pravda


Try one of my favorites, A Positive Life. I've seen a second album of theirs in person (it may have been remixes, or not). Good luck finding it.

As to SP, like the Simpsons and SNL, good seasons come in waves. On the balance for all three, the recent seasons have been pretty good.
 
2017-09-15 09:30:38 AM  

12349876: washington-babylon: 12349876: washington-babylon: 12349876: DrewCurtisJr: Mr.Uncle.Bill: I'm 48 and have an Echo.  I ain't scared.

I love playing ANY music I can think of while drinking some beverage.  <----  That's a period.

Rolls eyes... I guess if you like that soulless cooperate "music" you can find of streaming services ...Sips tea..

Plenty of obscure stuff on spotify, especially new stuff, though some is only on band camp or rarely sound cloud.

Not obscure enough for me. Mark Germino, Rank & File album. No luck finding it streamable anywhere.

268 facebook likes not obscure enough for you for a band whose first EP has been out for 18 months?

https://www.facebook.com/BlindExistence.Official/

You sure you're not confusing "obscure" with "pretty new as bands go" ? Because there's a band living in the apartment above me who have never cut an EP ever, but plays local bars a bit and are pretty good. I haven't said anything about them when they practice, and they occasionally leave invitations stuck to my door to come see them play since I don't make noise complaints to the complex. But they're not "Obscure"  they are just a newer band. They've only been playing publicly for a year and a half. Mark Germino is somewhat obscure though, and his rather excellent Rank & File album is worth listening to if you can find a copy. It seems to have missed the digital streaming train by a mile though. The reason I said he's somewhat obscure is that he is known in older DJ circles for one song.

Your CSB band may very well have more than 268 facebook likes.  Many young bands have more even if it's just a low four digit number.

So try this one.  Debut album 2003, only non removed social media I can find is MySpace, they have a common name for other bands and other stuff in general so it's hard to find anything about them unless you know they're from Idaho and they're on Spotify (mixed in with the other same name bands).

https://store.cdbaby.com/Artist/Pravda


Ah, Pravda. a co-worker introduced me to Walking Through Walls.
 
2017-09-15 01:34:26 PM  

Farking Clown Shoes: Ketchuponsteak: Farking Clown Shoes:

Even Randy's show was stupid. He wasn't house-flipping - he was just renovating people's houses.

I can't recall Randy ever doing anything that wasn't stupid. That's his character.

I mean the premise was stupid: it was announced as a "house-flipping" show and then just ended up being renovations for people's houses. Are you saying they meant to do that? That Randy wouldn't know the difference between house-flipping and house renovation?


Yes, Randy is stupid.
 
2017-09-15 02:57:28 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Queue the xkcd


Or cue it, even.

/pedantic jerk-off
 
2017-09-15 07:23:25 PM  
Do people actually think it's "cool" or something to come into a thread about a show and then disparage it? I know this is Fark and all, but do you really have nothing better to do with your time?

/stoplikingwhatidon'tlike.jpg
 
2017-09-15 09:51:09 PM  

Ketchuponsteak: durbnpoisn: Is it not possible to simply change the activation phrase?  If not, why the hell have they not implemented that yet?
And if they have, then why don't people immediately do that when they set it up?

I'm more curious as to why the devices aren't trained to only listen to certain voices.

Like, my Android phone reacts to "OK Google". But I had to train it to my voice. It ignores everyone else, why is Alexa different?

/"OK Google" just felt sorry that it upset me, by the request of going farking itself btw.


Alexa is too primitive for me knowingly that technology of voice recognition is out there. Also why can't the wake up voice be customized to any name? Alexa has too many syllables.

/and for that reason, Im out.
 
2017-09-16 12:17:05 AM  

fictional_character: StatelyGreekAutomaton: Vaginosilicosis: I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have one of those things in their house.

I'm more than a little creeped out by how many otherwise intelligent people would have a smartphone/computer/furniture/electricity/running water/etc. etc. in their house.

Yes, because a device that expressly and intentionally listens to your private conversations and records them forever is exactly like sitting on furniture.

/wow, the edges in this thread!


I don't keep bookcases in my house specifically for the fact they may tip over and crush me.

/the chairs have their eyes on me too, however I fart on them, so maybe I have it coming.
 
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