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(KFOR Oklahoma City)   Who orders a $4,000 painting and steaks and has UPS leave them on the front porch?   ( kfor.com) divider line
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2017-09-14 12:08:37 PM  

gopher321: Surveillance video from the home near E. 15th and I-35 shows a white man get out of a metallic gray or silver BMW at around 5:00 pm Tuesday.
"He pulled up, walks up to the porch, grabs the box -- which happened to be a painting -- and the box of steaks, put it in his car and drove off," said Edmond Police Department spokeswoman Jenny Wagnon.


Yeah, these guys just follow the UPS guy on his route through residential neighbourhoods - or they get a call from the driver himself. Always pay for deliver with sig. Always.


Unless you're me in which case delivery with signature just means "screw this guy" to my local FedEx driver. My last 4(!) packages with signature required were never delivered by him, one I waited three attempts (after 4 they return to sender) before throwing in the towel and having it delivered to a Kinkos location. Each of those times there was someone home all day and we have a gravel driveway so there's no way we miss a FedEx truck pulling in.
 
2017-09-14 12:12:57 PM  

Ker_Thwap: chitlenz: Ker_Thwap: I ordered a $13 TV wall mount.  I got a text from UPS stating, "sorry, no one was around to accept the package, and there was no place secure to leave it!  We left it at the local post office!"

I live in a cabin in the woods, I have no neighbors to steal things, I'm retired and am home all day, I have a covered front porch, I lent my car to someone this week.  I sent them a sternly worded email about lying liar delivery companies who seem to think it's sufficient to deliver a package within ten miles of me and think that's sufficient.

Ted Kaczynski, is that you?

Strongly worded email is not a euphemism for letter bomb... in this case.


I also have all packages, apart from ammunition, delivered to my work office unless I know that I will be home on the day of delivery.
 
2017-09-14 12:15:42 PM  
My mom lives on an Island in Maine, and has had to go to the "airport" (read, landing strip in the middle of the woods) to get a fedex package that was left under a rock at the end of the runway.
 
2017-09-14 12:27:32 PM  

red5ish: Well, I see we're blaming the victim. That's nice.


All I see is comments blaming the delivery service, but you sure did get your daily dose of smug superiority.
 
2017-09-14 12:31:08 PM  
That car's going to be fairly easy to track down, and the backwards-ball cap guy easy to find. 

Pretty sure he thought he was nabbing a TV with the size of that package.
 
2017-09-14 12:32:04 PM  
A douchbag with too much money.
 
2017-09-14 12:39:54 PM  
I just have shiat delivered to my office. If it's something super big or expensive or important, I make sure I'm there when it's delivered.

FYI, when I had a cell phone delivered a year ago, via UPS, when I wasn't there to take delivery, the UPS guy left it at a nearby Authorized Shipping Outlet (a convenience store), not my door. So ... some UPS guys know what they're doing, some don't.
 
2017-09-14 12:42:59 PM  
And when I say "I make sure I'm there when it's delivered" I mean "there at my home." LOL

I don't order that much stuff, so ... easier said than done for other people, I suppose.

I would sure as fark be home for a $4000 painting. Why do people not know that assholes follow delivery drivers around to see what they can steal from people's porches? It's just common sense. (shrug)
 
2017-09-14 12:46:41 PM  

MrKevvy: UPS may had no directive to leave them on the front porch... I've had several deliveries from them marked "signature required" and they were still left in front of my door. The drivers are probably betting that the recipient will be happy enough not to have gone to the depot not to report it.


I ordered a $300 pit barrel cooker (a kind of bbq smoker), it WAS marked 'sig required' and they still left it on the front sidewalk.  The box is clearly marked with what it is - anyone could have picked it up.

/been a pet peeve of mine for a while
 
2017-09-14 12:47:45 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: I just have shiat delivered to my office. If it's something super big or expensive or important, I make sure I'm there when it's delivered.

FYI, when I had a cell phone delivered a year ago, via UPS, when I wasn't there to take delivery, the UPS guy left it at a nearby Authorized Shipping Outlet (a convenience store), not my door. So ... some UPS guys know what they're doing, some don't.


I tried to get FedEx to leave packages at the local FedEx store less than a mile away. They did it for a while, even advertised it as a "customer convenience", then later nixed the idea for some reason.

The local, independent We Pack and Ship place will accept packages, but they want $4 per if you're not renting a box from them.
 
2017-09-14 12:51:24 PM  

IDisposable: MrKevvy: UPS may had no directive to leave them on the front porch... I've had several deliveries from them marked "signature required" and they were still left in front of my door. The drivers are probably betting that the recipient will be happy enough not to have gone to the depot not to report it.

There was one time I ordered a TV.  I think it was maybe $800 or so.  It was shipped adult signature required, and I was home, but in the shower when they came so I missed them.  It was shipped in the TV box - not in a plain cardboard box or anything.  UPS stands the thing straight up in full view on my porch so anyone driving by would see a TV.  They put it behind a plant and I guess that was "hiding" it, but the box was 4' wide and the plant was tiny.


To top this,
My late wife donated her body to medical science and when the university was finished with it they cremated her remains.  Her ashes were then supposed to be shipped to me via UPS with adult signature required.

Not only did they deliver the package to the wrong address,  (they got the  house number and zip code but the town and street wrong) but the signature of the person who signed the package was about 10 years old!

Thank god the family who got the package tracked me down and contacted me they had her remains.  They didn't know what was in the package just called me to let me know the package was at their house!

needless to say UPS got an earful regarding that!
 
2017-09-14 12:59:30 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: And when I say "I make sure I'm there when it's delivered" I mean "there at my home." LOL

I don't order that much stuff, so ... easier said than done for other people, I suppose.

I would sure as fark be home for a $4000 painting. Why do people not know that assholes follow delivery drivers around to see what they can steal from people's porches? It's just common sense. (shrug)


Painting in question:

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2017-09-14 12:59:41 PM  

IDisposable: The thief drives a BMW X6?  Those things start at $60K.

And the thief, who drives a BMW X6, drives into a neighborhood, into the back of a cul-de-sac, says "ooh, this house looks like it might have something really expensive on the doorstep", and goes and steals it???

And he couldn't even close the back door, do it's not like he could get very far.  Maybe there's more to the story?


He's a thief. He stole it.
 
2017-09-14 01:00:34 PM  
Most people at my job that live in Baltimore just have stuff shipped to work since odds are it wont be there when they get home. Technically they are not supposed to have stuff sent here but I keep them off the books and don't make a big deal about it.
 
2017-09-14 01:01:27 PM  
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2017-09-14 01:02:32 PM  

gopher321: Surveillance video from the home near E. 15th and I-35 shows a white man get out of a metallic gray or silver BMW at around 5:00 pm Tuesday.
"He pulled up, walks up to the porch, grabs the box -- which happened to be a painting -- and the box of steaks, put it in his car and drove off," said Edmond Police Department spokeswoman Jenny Wagnon.


Yeah, these guys just follow the UPS guy on his route through residential neighbourhoods - or they get a call from the driver himself. Always pay for deliver with sig. Always.


I'd rather pay for delivering to my porch even if the seller requested a sig. It's not worth taking time off of work on the miniscule chance that someone walks off with a package before I get home. And yes I have had a thousand dollar painting left on my porch.
 
2017-09-14 01:03:30 PM  

IDisposable: The thief drives a BMW X6?  Those things start at $60K.

And the thief, who drives a BMW X6, drives into a neighborhood, into the back of a cul-de-sac, says "ooh, this house looks like it might have something really expensive on the doorstep", and goes and steals it???

And he couldn't even close the back door, do it's not like he could get very far.  Maybe there's more to the story?


Perhaps he does this a lot and that's why he can afford an X6.
 
2017-09-14 01:05:07 PM  

groppet: Most people at my job that live in Baltimore just have stuff shipped to work since odds are it wont be there when they get home. Technically they are not supposed to have stuff sent here but I keep them off the books and don't make a big deal about it.


I work for a large outfit with a receiving dept. They freak out if something arrives without the appropriate database entry to go along with it.
 
2017-09-14 01:05:32 PM  
I bet he thought it was a tv. I bet the woman didn't even think to click the must have a signature box when ordering. People with a lot of money are way lax when it comes to stuff like this. This one white dude I use to know would rent expensive cars, go to the most affluent malls and steal laptops out of cars. These people are cautious of Tyrone but it's really Tom  is the one robbing you blind.
 
2017-09-14 01:15:43 PM  
Had a neighbor who was constantly having stuff stolen.

One time it was her new MacBook air and her "mother's jewelry" stolen out of her car.
Next it was her AC unit got taken.

After three of these, her insurance dropped her.
She just got new insurance.   And coincidentally .........
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/jewelry-theft-reported-at-gold-coast​-​home/
 
2017-09-14 01:22:16 PM  
It seems to be quite variable.  Around here there are zero problems.  Amazon never asks for a signature, nothing ever goes lost.  My biggest beef is with the occasional driver who thinks that slipping a flat package under the doormat is a good idea.  Hey, I've almost squashed things a couple of times that way!  Most of them look around, note the large post (decorative) that will hide a typical package from the street perfectly and leave it there.
 
2017-09-14 01:23:39 PM  
Edmond? Yup Edmond.

Nope, it's not a scam. It's a city where all those things are normal, even a thief in a BMW.
 
2017-09-14 01:39:55 PM  
Brazen thief? You mean a brass dragonborn rogue?
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2017-09-14 01:56:06 PM  
I recently purchased something from Amazon. It was delivered by an Amazon driver. And in the tracking information in the email the driver had taken a photo of the package at my doorstep.
 
2017-09-14 01:56:08 PM  

Milos Hattrick: [www.theblaze.com image 350x284]


How many trump steaks do you get off of one o' them trump steers?
will they grind the cheaper cuts for hamburger if you order a half?
 
2017-09-14 02:07:44 PM  
Half the people on SNAP.
 
2017-09-14 02:17:02 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Half the people on SNAP.


Yeah, cuz food stamps allow you to live in the lap of luxury. Most food stamp recipients work more than 1 job and still live below the poverty line, but I know that humiliating and denigrating the working poor is a popular conservative pastime.
 
2017-09-14 02:56:20 PM  

formerfloozy: Kangaroo_Ralph: Half the people on SNAP.

Yeah, cuz food stamps allow you to live in the lap of luxury. Most food stamp recipients work more than 1 job and still live below the poverty line, but I know that humiliating and denigrating the working poor is a popular conservative pastime.


I have yet to see someone buy actual food with food stamps. 90% of the time it's tv dinners and potato chips. Oh and don't forget the carts full of pop when it goes on sale. So happy my taxes are contributing to their heart disease.
 
2017-09-14 02:59:57 PM  

astouffer: formerfloozy: Kangaroo_Ralph: Half the people on SNAP.

Yeah, cuz food stamps allow you to live in the lap of luxury. Most food stamp recipients work more than 1 job and still live below the poverty line, but I know that humiliating and denigrating the working poor is a popular conservative pastime.

I have yet to see someone buy actual food with food stamps. 90% of the time it's tv dinners and potato chips. Oh and don't forget the carts full of pop when it goes on sale. So happy my taxes are contributing to their heart disease.


When you have limited food you go for the most calorie-rich ones. And the ones that are easiest to prepare and store.
 
2017-09-14 03:01:47 PM  
Another person here to say that delivery people don't even ring my door bell, but just leave expensive stuff I order on my porch.
 
2017-09-14 03:19:22 PM  

formerfloozy: Kangaroo_Ralph: Half the people on SNAP.

Yeah, cuz food stamps allow you to live in the lap of luxury. Most food stamp recipients work more than 1 job and still live below the poverty line, but I know that humiliating and denigrating the working poor is a popular conservative pastime.


There's a lot of abuse and unfortunately an honest conversation about that abuse gets shouted down with "RACIST" and "why do you hate poor people?"
 
2017-09-14 03:21:27 PM  
painting worth several thousand dollars

Anything around 2 is a couple, Anything above 2 and below 6 is a few. Anything above that is "several".

/at least IMHO
 
2017-09-14 03:26:01 PM  

HailRobonia: Brazen thief? You mean a brass dragonborn rogue?
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OK, I've been out of the D&D loop for a while, but is that actually an accepted PC race ?
 
2017-09-14 03:30:36 PM  

astouffer: formerfloozy: Kangaroo_Ralph: Half the people on SNAP.

Yeah, cuz food stamps allow you to live in the lap of luxury. Most food stamp recipients work more than 1 job and still live below the poverty line, but I know that humiliating and denigrating the working poor is a popular conservative pastime.

I have yet to see someone buy actual food with food stamps. 90% of the time it's tv dinners and potato chips. Oh and don't forget the carts full of pop when it goes on sale. So happy my taxes are contributing to their heart disease.


Nothing wrong with TV dinners. What were you expecting them to get?
 
2017-09-14 03:31:02 PM  
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2017-09-14 03:31:46 PM  

AllUpInYa: HailRobonia: Brazen thief? You mean a brass dragonborn rogue?
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OK, I've been out of the D&D loop for a while, but is that actually an accepted PC race ?


Yes, sadly.  Make good barbarians.
 
2017-09-14 03:38:20 PM  
Pick one...
A) Insurance fraud.
B) boxes actually contained drugs

Of course, she could have ordered a "custom painting", the "custom painter" sent drugs instead, and the person who was supposed  to get the drugs waiting until the boxes showed up and then took them immediately.  This is especially possible if the woman has a regular schedule so they knew she wouldn't be home.

Apparently, this is fairly common, to the point that occasionally the homeowner is home when the package comes and hilarity ensues.
 
2017-09-14 03:40:21 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: AllUpInYa: HailRobonia: Brazen thief? You mean a brass dragonborn rogue?
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OK, I've been out of the D&D loop for a while, but is that actually an accepted PC race ?

Yes, sadly.  Make good barbarians.


Barbarian PC's ????
That's just crazy-talk

/kept with AD&D
 
2017-09-14 04:20:59 PM  

astouffer: formerfloozy: Kangaroo_Ralph: Half the people on SNAP.

Yeah, cuz food stamps allow you to live in the lap of luxury. Most food stamp recipients work more than 1 job and still live below the poverty line, but I know that humiliating and denigrating the working poor is a popular conservative pastime.

I have yet to see someone buy actual food with food stamps. 90% of the time it's tv dinners and potato chips. Oh and don't forget the carts full of pop when it goes on sale. So happy my taxes are contributing to their heart disease.


Cool anecdote dude. I am sure that EVERY person uses just like you described and therefore no one deserves them.
 
2017-09-14 04:27:17 PM  

IDisposable: formerfloozy: Kangaroo_Ralph: Half the people on SNAP.

Yeah, cuz food stamps allow you to live in the lap of luxury. Most food stamp recipients work more than 1 job and still live below the poverty line, but I know that humiliating and denigrating the working poor is a popular conservative pastime.

There's a lot of abuse and unfortunately an honest conversation about that abuse gets shouted down with "RACIST" and "why do you hate poor people?"


I don't mind discussing the issue of fraud, but it is actually rather rare and if they catch you, you WILL be punished. Having said that, I don't mind my tax dollars being spent feeding families that need it, even with the understanding that some people will game it. My tax dollars go towards paying for a lot of reprehensible shiat, feeding hungry familes isn't one of them.
 
2017-09-14 04:46:49 PM  
Leave the painting, take the steaks.
 
2017-09-14 04:57:34 PM  
Well, it was a $40 painting until the insurance valuation form was filled out...
 
2017-09-14 06:45:39 PM  

gopher321: Surveillance video from the home near E. 15th and I-35 shows a white man get out of a metallic gray or silver BMW at around 5:00 pm Tuesday.
"He pulled up, walks up to the porch, grabs the box -- which happened to be a painting -- and the box of steaks, put it in his car and drove off," said Edmond Police Department spokeswoman Jenny Wagnon.


Yeah, these guys just follow the UPS guy on his route through residential neighbourhoods - or they get a call from the driver himself. Always pay for deliver with sig. Always.


These days, you just direct that the items be held at the depot, or a designated retail delivery if the depot is inconvenient. You can sign up with UPS and Fedex for that, or call them with your tracking number.

Unfortunately, too many people in my area have been doing that, and UPS now routinely says the facility is "full." I've had to have things delivered on days when I'm home, and it sucks waiting around.
 
2017-09-14 06:50:30 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: I bet he thought it was a tv. I bet the woman didn't even think to click the must have a signature box when ordering. People with a lot of money are way lax when it comes to stuff like this. This one white dude I use to know would rent expensive cars, go to the most affluent malls and steal laptops out of cars. These people are cautious of Tyrone but it's really Tom  is the one robbing you blind.


Do any online vendors allow you to specify? I've haven't seen one in years, the vendor always decides in my experience, either always one way or the other, or based on price. Maybe once or twice years ago I saw a site where you could pay extra for signature service, but not anymore.
 
2017-09-14 08:21:05 PM  

foxyshadis: drjekel_mrhyde: I bet he thought it was a tv. I bet the woman didn't even think to click the must have a signature box when ordering. People with a lot of money are way lax when it comes to stuff like this. This one white dude I use to know would rent expensive cars, go to the most affluent malls and steal laptops out of cars. These people are cautious of Tyrone but it's really Tom  is the one robbing you blind.

Do any online vendors allow you to specify? I've haven't seen one in years, the vendor always decides in my experience, either always one way or the other, or based on price. Maybe once or twice years ago I saw a site where you could pay extra for signature service, but not anymore.


Once you get the tracking # from the online store, just go to major 3 carriers, you can request it on their website or over the phone.
/Bonus Fedex will deliver your shiat to Walgreen's now
 
2017-09-14 09:29:39 PM  

foxyshadis: drjekel_mrhyde: I bet he thought it was a tv. I bet the woman didn't even think to click the must have a signature box when ordering. People with a lot of money are way lax when it comes to stuff like this. This one white dude I use to know would rent expensive cars, go to the most affluent malls and steal laptops out of cars. These people are cautious of Tyrone but it's really Tom  is the one robbing you blind.

Do any online vendors allow you to specify? I've haven't seen one in years, the vendor always decides in my experience, either always one way or the other, or based on price. Maybe once or twice years ago I saw a site where you could pay extra for signature service, but not anymore.


That's been my experience thus far. The manner of delivery is not up to you, not disclosed, and thus a complete gamble and surprise on the day. Mostly the annoyance is when you get a tag instead of your $5 whatzit and have to begin the dance.

Last fun experience was ordering a chair gas cylinder that came in a bubble envelope. The bubble envelope failed so UPS delivers an empty envelope with a giant hole in the bottom to the wrong address and marks "delivery complete."
 
2017-09-15 12:18:26 AM  
HailRobonia: astouffer: formerfloozy: Kangaroo_Ralph: Half the people on SNAP.

Yeah, cuz food stamps allow you to live in the lap of luxury. Most food stamp recipients work more than 1 job and still live below the poverty line, but I know that humiliating and denigrating the working poor is a popular conservative pastime.

I have yet to see someone buy actual food with food stamps. 90% of the time it's tv dinners and potato chips. Oh and don't forget the carts full of pop when it goes on sale. So happy my taxes are contributing to their heart disease.

When you have limited food
When you are fat and lazy you go for the most calorie-rich ones. And the ones that are easiest to prepare and store.
 
2017-09-15 01:16:30 AM  
My  brother raises Koi and keeps an aquarium of freshwater fish. He ordered a new fish from an out of town breeder, and it came overnight by UPS... well, sort of. He watched the truck zoom past the house five times over the course of several hours, in both directions, apparently unable to discern the address on the mailbox and over the front door.   Once it does arrive, guy brings out a foam container bearing a water-filled baggie with a dead tropical fish in it. My brother complains. The driver says: "oh you can still eat it, it's plenty fresh, only died an hour or so ago!"
 
2017-09-15 11:36:51 AM  

Snarky Acronym: I recently purchased something from Amazon. It was delivered by an Amazon driver. And in the tracking information in the email the driver had taken a photo of the package at my doorstep.


There's some small delivery outfit around here whose drivers take such a picture.  I haven't seen them, though.

Massa Damnata: Another person here to say that delivery people don't even ring my door bell, but just leave expensive stuff I order on my porch.


UPS always rings unless it's after about 8pm.  FedEx never does except the only signature-required package I've gotten in quite a while.
 
2017-09-15 12:48:39 PM  
How do we know the guy didn't just pick up the X6 from someone's porch too?
 
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