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(Politicus USA)   Apparently MAGA includes losing a LOT of elections to the Democrats. so that's cool   ( politicususa.com) divider line
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2017-09-14 03:50:43 AM  
The less republicans, the better America.

But I don't know about "again". Conservatives are just old or mentally poisoned liberals. They never just "die off".

Let's call it MAGer
 
2017-09-14 04:26:05 AM  

doglover: The less republicans, the better America.

But I don't know about "again". Conservatives are just old or mentally poisoned liberals. They never just "die off".

Let's call it MAGer


Well, there's also a not insignificant number of billionaires who want to privatise everything. And the volume with which their money amplifies their vision of a Golden Age brought about by reducing the government to police and the military.
 
2017-09-14 04:29:24 AM  
don't think this trend hasn't been noticed by the GOP elites.  this is exactly the sort of backlash they've terrified of facing.
 
2017-09-14 04:48:04 AM  
"See! I done TOLE you Trump were one-a them secret libruls the whole time!"
 
2017-09-14 05:38:51 AM  
"Thirty-two special legislative elections have been held since January in districts where a Democrat has faced a Republican," The Hill reported. "In 25 of the 31 districts where comparisons are available, the Democratic candidate ran ahead of Clinton, by an average of 12 percentage points. "

It doesn't say the Democrat actually won the election, just that they outperformed Clinton.
 
2017-09-14 05:43:30 AM  
I'm torn between <grumpycatgood.jpg> and "let's not start sucking each other's dicks yet".

You might say I'm on the fence.
 
2017-09-14 06:10:03 AM  

fusillade762: Well, there's also a not insignificant number of billionaires who want to privatise everything. And the volume with which their money amplifies their vision of a Golden Age brought about by reducing the government to police and the military.


More like a Gilded Age, and we all know how THOSE end.
 
2017-09-14 06:15:33 AM  

Weaver95: don't think this trend hasn't been noticed by the GOP elites.  this is exactly the sort of backlash they've terrified of facing.


Why do you think a bunch of them are either retiring or considering it?
 
2017-09-14 06:18:20 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Weaver95: don't think this trend hasn't been noticed by the GOP elites.  this is exactly the sort of backlash they've terrified of facing.

Why do you think a bunch of them are either retiring or considering it?


getting out while the getting is still good, would be my guess.  I wonder if the GOP will collapse because of trump's corruption, lies and incompetence?
 
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2017-09-14 06:36:04 AM  
Weaver95:

getting out while the getting is still good, would be my guess.  I wonder if the GOP will collapse because of trump's corruption, lies and incompetence?

The corruption, lies and incompetence of previous Republican administrations didn't cause it to collapse.
 
2017-09-14 06:41:33 AM  

Weaver95: I wonder if the GOP will collapse because of trump's corruption, lies and incompetence?


Wouldn't bet on that unless Mueller's report exposes a whole bunch of top R corruption and other "swamp" things.  Then again, the faithful would probably just ignore that and continue on voting for them, especially if the corruption were in their favor.
 
2017-09-14 06:49:02 AM  

SpaceyCat: Weaver95: I wonder if the GOP will collapse because of trump's corruption, lies and incompetence?

Wouldn't bet on that unless Mueller's report exposes a whole bunch of top R corruption and other "swamp" things.  Then again, the faithful would probably just ignore that and continue on voting for them, especially if the corruption were in their favor.


yeah, but this isn't about the GOP anymore.  without at least SOME level of support and acceptance from independents and moderates the republicans won't be able to survive.  Trump's managed to alienate everyone save the wacko loopy true believers, whores and mercenaries.
 
2017-09-14 06:54:47 AM  

Weaver95: Trump's managed to alienate everyone save the wacko loopy true believers, whores and mercenaries.


But not enough to get those in Congress to actually DO something.  I'm not holding my breath on anything.  I'm hoping that lack of motivation to remove him from Office will cause many people to not vote again for their idiots, but I've heard way too many people say "It's not MY congressman that's the problem!  It's everyone else that's sitting on their ass!".
 
2017-09-14 06:56:40 AM  

SpaceyCat: "It's not MY congressman that's the problem!  It's everyone else that's sitting on their ass!".


right now the country is largely running on inertia....but we seem to be slowing down, if that makes any sense.  eventually, this situation DOES fix itself tho.  I'm just not sure we're ready for that level of violence and brutality.
 
2017-09-14 06:58:01 AM  

Unobtanium: "Thirty-two special legislative elections have been held since January in districts where a Democrat has faced a Republican," The Hill reported. "In 25 of the 31 districts where comparisons are available, the Democratic candidate ran ahead of Clinton, by an average of 12 percentage points. "

It doesn't say the Democrat actually won the election, just that they outperformed Clinton.

As The Hill noted, this "was the third Democrat to win a previously Republican-held seat in Oklahoma this year."

 
2017-09-14 06:59:58 AM  

Weaver95: right now the country is largely running on inertia....but we seem to be slowing down, if that makes any sense.


It does, because friction causes loss of momentum and without more energy put into a system, it loses it pretty fast.

Weaver95: eventually, this situation DOES fix itself tho. I'm just not sure we're ready for that level of violence and brutality.


Not yet, but it's bubbling to the surface in more places.
 
2017-09-14 07:00:12 AM  
If I were asked who was running the country right now, i'm not sure I could give a solid answer.  in theory - trump's in charge.  But he's so weak that he's become a lame duck president in less than 6 months.  nobody in congress seems to know what they're doing either for that matter.

so I dunno.  seems like nobody's minding the store, and the folks allegedly running the show are more interested in looting the country and grandstanding than they are in doing their jobs.
 
2017-09-14 08:03:45 AM  
How about instead of clapping backs and congratulating folks, people focus on getting people out to vote, and in such numbers that it's hard to jigger the results?
 
2017-09-14 08:16:38 AM  

hubiestubert: How about instead of clapping backs and congratulating folks, people focus on getting people out to vote, and in such numbers that it's hard to jigger the results?


That
 
2017-09-14 08:45:52 AM  

doglover: The less republicans, the better America.

But I don't know about "again". Conservatives are just old or mentally poisoned liberals. They never just "die off".

Let's call it MAGer


Our president is a lifelong Dem and is currently only passing anything when working with Dems, soooo...
 
2017-09-14 08:48:24 AM  

vpb: The corruption, lies and incompetence of previous Republican administrations didn't cause it to collapse.


They did, however, cause it to prolapse.
 
2017-09-14 08:51:34 AM  
I feel a poem coming on...
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"Make America Great Again"

is the current Republican spin

.

but they think that greatness is more

moving the tax burden to the middle class and poor

.

and, if you want corporations to also be great

for God's sake, don't regulate

.

In this way, Trump and greatness are linked

Someday we'll be so great most of us will be extinct...

.

Burma Shave

 
2017-09-14 08:52:22 AM  

Therion: vpb: The corruption, lies and incompetence of previous Republican administrations didn't cause it to collapse.

They did, however, cause it to prolapse.


Goddamn it... I was eating a cookie when I read that! That's several crumbs of cookie spit on my monitor I won't be able to get back!
 
2017-09-14 08:53:34 AM  

hubiestubert: How about instead of clapping backs and congratulating folks, people focus on getting people out to vote, and in such numbers that it's hard to jigger the results?


would love to but there is only 1 voting machine for in my district of 45000 voter eligible persons with no early voting hours.

(not me but i'm sure there are districts gerrymandered like this)
 
2017-09-14 08:53:36 AM  

doglover: The less republicans, the better America.

But I don't know about "again". Conservatives are just old or mentally poisoned liberals. They never just "die off".

Let's call it MAGer


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2017-09-14 08:54:17 AM  

Unobtanium: "Thirty-two special legislative elections have been held since January in districts where a Democrat has faced a Republican," The Hill reported. "In 25 of the 31 districts where comparisons are available, the Democratic candidate ran ahead of Clinton, by an average of 12 percentage points. "

It doesn't say the Democrat actually won the election, just that they outperformed Clinton.


outperforming Clinton in a district by 12 points is substantial.  

Here are a list of all the congressional results from 2016. 
http://www.politico.com/mapdata-2016/2016-election/results/map/house/​

A 12 point bump for a lot of democrats would but a Dems in control of the house. 

Here are the Senate Results. 
http://www.politico.com/mapdata-2016/2016-election/results/map/senate​/
A 12 point bump would have given us 6 more democratic senators last year.
 
2017-09-14 08:54:55 AM  

hubiestubert: How about instead of clapping backs and congratulating folks, people focus on getting people out to vote, and in such numbers that it's hard to jigger the results?


But that sounds like work, can't I just send thoughts and prayers to the candidates and their families, and then post some clickbait on Facebook that will get my vegan cousin and racist uncle to argue for days on end?
 
2017-09-14 08:55:28 AM  

hubiestubert: How about instead of clapping backs and congratulating folks, people focus on getting people out to vote, and in such numbers that it's hard to jigger the results?


I get the feeling that the Democrats have caught on(finally).  The base is energized and the candidates are pressing the flesh like mad.  This is a great start and if they keep pushing the midterms could be a bloodbath.
 
2017-09-14 08:57:01 AM  
All aboard the Trump train!

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2017-09-14 09:00:50 AM  

doglover: The less republicans, the better America.

But I don't know about "again". Conservatives are just old or mentally poisoned liberals. They never just "die off".

Let's call it MAGer


Well, they are people who annoy me...
 
2017-09-14 09:01:10 AM  
Declaring victory in elections that haven't happened yet certainly has a recent track record of success, hasn't it PoliticsUSA?
 
2017-09-14 09:03:33 AM  

hubiestubert: How about instead of clapping backs and congratulating folks, people focus on getting people out to vote, and in such numbers that it's hard to jigger the results?


Yeah but next year the GOP is gonna work overtime to keep the jiggers from voting.
 
2017-09-14 09:03:58 AM  
"Thirty-two special legislative elections have been held since January in districts where a Democrat has faced a Republican," The Hill reported. "In 25 of the 31 districts where comparisons are available, the Democratic candidate ran ahead of Clinton, by an average of 12 percentage points. "

Wow she was a really awful candidate.
 
2017-09-14 09:04:02 AM  

doglover: The less republicans, the better America.

But I don't know about "again". Conservatives are just old or mentally poisoned liberals. They never just "die off".

Let's call it MAGer


About 15% off the top would solve the problem once and for all but that seems awfully extreme.

/Stannis Baratheon
 
2017-09-14 09:04:26 AM  

Weaver95: SpaceyCat: Weaver95: I wonder if the GOP will collapse because of trump's corruption, lies and incompetence?

Wouldn't bet on that unless Mueller's report exposes a whole bunch of top R corruption and other "swamp" things.  Then again, the faithful would probably just ignore that and continue on voting for them, especially if the corruption were in their favor.

yeah, but this isn't about the GOP anymore.  without at least SOME level of support and acceptance from independents and moderates the republicans won't be able to survive.  Trump's managed to alienate everyone save the wacko loopy true believers, whores and mercenaries.


That is one hell of a Venn diagram.
 
2017-09-14 09:04:39 AM  
Republicans, like the Russians, only win anything by cheating. This is where they both derive their fake pride, too. Then they get into power and can't do anything. They think we can't see this happening.
 
2017-09-14 09:07:42 AM  
This year in special elections, Dems have taken six seats held by Repubs, while Repubs have taken zero seats held by Dems.
 
2017-09-14 09:09:07 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: doglover: The less republicans, the better America.

But I don't know about "again". Conservatives are just old or mentally poisoned liberals. They never just "die off".

Let's call it MAGer

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I love this meme.
 
2017-09-14 09:11:45 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: "Thirty-two special legislative elections have been held since January in districts where a Democrat has faced a Republican," The Hill reported. "In 25 of the 31 districts where comparisons are available, the Democratic candidate ran ahead of Clinton, by an average of 12 percentage points. "

Wow she was a really awful candidate.


So why didn't these seats go blue under Obama?  This is more about people waking up then anything else.  Republicans vote on everything, it's about time Democrats started too as well.
 
2017-09-14 09:13:49 AM  
Wait'll next year.
 
2017-09-14 09:15:03 AM  
"Good news, everyone! The Democrats have gained several sea--"
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The results cement a dubious legacy of Republican gains in state legislatures during President Obama's tenure. Republicans gained more than 700 seats in the 2010 midterm elections and nearly 300 in the 2014 midterms as Obama's approval ratings suffered. Democrats clawed back more than 100 seats in 2012, when Obama won reelection.

In total, Republicans control nearly 1,000 more legislative seats than they did when Obama took office. The Republican share of state legislative seats has grown from just under 44 percent in 2009 to 56 percent after Tuesday's election.

After the latest losses, Democrats will hold just 42 percent of legislative seats in the nation.
Beginning next year, Republicans will control 67 of the 98 partisan legislative chambers, after winning new majorities in the Kentucky House, the Iowa Senate and the Minnesota Senate. Democrats picked up control of both the state Assembly and Senate in Nevada, and the New Mexico state House.

Since Obama took office, Republicans have captured control of 27 state legislative chambers Democrats held after the 2008 elections. The GOP now controls the most legislative seats it has held since the founding of the party.
 
2017-09-14 09:15:42 AM  

SpaceyCat: Weaver95: Trump's managed to alienate everyone save the wacko loopy true believers, whores and mercenaries.

But not enough to get those in Congress to actually DO something.  I'm not holding my breath on anything.  I'm hoping that lack of motivation to remove him from Office will cause many people to not vote again for their idiots, but I've heard way too many people say "It's not MY congressman that's the problem!  It's everyone else that's sitting on their ass!".


Bingo! "CONGRESS SUCKS! ...except for my Congressman..."

/It's why approval ratings of Congress as a whole are meaningless.
//Always look at the approval ratings of individual Congresspeople in their home districts.
 
2017-09-14 09:16:44 AM  

Weaver95: SpaceyCat: "It's not MY congressman that's the problem!  It's everyone else that's sitting on their ass!".

right now the country is largely running on inertia....but we seem to be slowing down, if that makes any sense.  eventually, this situation DOES fix itself tho.  I'm just not sure we're ready for that level of violence and brutality.


That actually makes perfect sense.  We've had a train of competent (or in Shrub's case, semi-competent) administrations for decades, and we as a country are still running off of those policies and vision.  Now that the engine is gone and there are no new ideas (at least, nothing that can get passed) or vision from the White House, everything is starting to slow down.  I don't, however, think that restarting it is going to necessitate violence (Herr Trumpenfuhrer's departure notwithstanding), it's just going to take someone who actually gives a shiat about at least attempting to bridge the divide.  I don't think that someone is Pence, or if it does fall to him, that he doesn't immediately start shoving fundie bullshiat down our throats and takes stock of what's been happening around him.
 
2017-09-14 09:17:20 AM  

Donald_McRonald: "Good news, everyone! The Democrats have gained several sea--" [img.fark.net image 850x477]

The results cement a dubious legacy of Republican gains in state legislatures during President Obama's tenure. Republicans gained more than 700 seats in the 2010 midterm elections and nearly 300 in the 2014 midterms as Obama's approval ratings suffered. Democrats clawed back more than 100 seats in 2012, when Obama won reelection.

In total, Republicans control nearly 1,000 more legislative seats than they did when Obama took office. The Republican share of state legislative seats has grown from just under 44 percent in 2009 to 56 percent after Tuesday's election.

After the latest losses, Democrats will hold just 42 percent of legislative seats in the nation.
Beginning next year, Republicans will control 67 of the 98 partisan legislative chambers, after winning new majorities in the Kentucky House, the Iowa Senate and the Minnesota Senate. Democrats picked up control of both the state Assembly and Senate in Nevada, and the New Mexico state House.

Since Obama took office, Republicans have captured control of 27 state legislative chambers Democrats held after the 2008 elections. The GOP now controls the most legislative seats it has held since the founding of the party.


If your point is that there's still a lot of work to do, fair enough.

If your point is to say this doesn't matter because reasons, then welcome to team NothingBurger.
 
2017-09-14 09:18:06 AM  
Meanwhile, at the GOP:

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2017-09-14 09:18:30 AM  

BeesNuts: Donald_McRonald: "Good news, everyone! The Democrats have gained several sea--" [img.fark.net image 850x477]

The results cement a dubious legacy of Republican gains in state legislatures during President Obama's tenure. Republicans gained more than 700 seats in the 2010 midterm elections and nearly 300 in the 2014 midterms as Obama's approval ratings suffered. Democrats clawed back more than 100 seats in 2012, when Obama won reelection.

In total, Republicans control nearly 1,000 more legislative seats than they did when Obama took office. The Republican share of state legislative seats has grown from just under 44 percent in 2009 to 56 percent after Tuesday's election.

After the latest losses, Democrats will hold just 42 percent of legislative seats in the nation.
Beginning next year, Republicans will control 67 of the 98 partisan legislative chambers, after winning new majorities in the Kentucky House, the Iowa Senate and the Minnesota Senate. Democrats picked up control of both the state Assembly and Senate in Nevada, and the New Mexico state House.

Since Obama took office, Republicans have captured control of 27 state legislative chambers Democrats held after the 2008 elections. The GOP now controls the most legislative seats it has held since the founding of the party.

If your point is that there's still a lot of work to do, fair enough.

If your point is to say this doesn't matter because reasons, then welcome to team NothingBurger.


Maybe I believe both.
 
2017-09-14 09:18:47 AM  
I think what's happening is that a lot of the people who sat out the last election woke up and are getting their ass to the polls. Let's hope, anyway.
 
2017-09-14 09:19:57 AM  

SpaceyCat: Weaver95: I wonder if the GOP will collapse because of trump's corruption, lies and incompetence?

Wouldn't bet on that unless Mueller's report exposes a whole bunch of top R corruption and other "swamp" things.  Then again, the faithful would probably just ignore that and continue on voting for them, especially if the corruption were in their favor.


If it comes to that, Trump can just fire Mueller (and probably charge him with something, like they're talking about doing with Comey) and congress won't object.
 
2017-09-14 09:20:36 AM  

hubiestubert: How about instead of clapping backs and congratulating folks, people focus on getting people out to vote, and in such numbers that it's hard to jigger the results?


GOP will claim voter fraud in all of their losses.
 
2017-09-14 09:22:25 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: This year in special elections, Dems have taken six seats held by Repubs, while Repubs have taken zero seats held by Dems.


Now, see, that is the sort of statistics that actually mean something.  Thank you.
 
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