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2017-09-13 10:51:14 PM  

uber humper: Theaetetus: uber humper: You don't believe society puts a premium on attractive women??

Yes, clearly. Oh, wait, what's this?
Theaetetus: Society places higher value on women's attractiveness than men's

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sorry, brah, I jumped the gun


I was more taking issue with your "men are more visual" comment. If men were more visual, then more men would be into fashion, no? Maybe that premise is unsupported.
 
2017-09-13 10:51:52 PM  

Theaetetus: Ive come from afar: Can confirm.

15 year relationship.  I'm a potato shaped, large hairy land mammal.  Nobody should be with me, let alone my beautiful wife.

You might ask yourself, "well, how did I get here?"


Theaetetus: Ive come from afar: Can confirm.

15 year relationship.  I'm a potato shaped, large hairy land mammal.  Nobody should be with me, let alone my beautiful wife.

You might ask yourself, "well, how did I get here?"


Indeed.

(spastic dancing in an oversized suit)
 
2017-09-13 10:51:55 PM  

stoli n coke: Super Chronic: Sometimes I used to wonder
How the hell an ugly dude get a fine girl's number
He's gettin' juiced for his ducats
I tell a girl in a minute yo, I drive a bucket

Maybe instead of telling the girl in a minute yo, the ugly dude talked to her like he went to school on the regular sized bus.


I disclose to a mademoiselle without hesitation "Salutations, I operate a vehicle of greatly a depreciated valuation."
 
2017-09-13 10:52:58 PM  
a greatly*
 
2017-09-13 10:55:01 PM  

Theaetetus: uber humper: Theaetetus: uber humper: You don't believe society puts a premium on attractive women??

Yes, clearly. Oh, wait, what's this?
Theaetetus: Society places higher value on women's attractiveness than men's

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sorry, brah, I jumped the gun

I was more taking issue with your "men are more visual" comment. If men were more visual, then more men would be into fashion, no? Maybe that premise is unsupported.


We're visual but all stereotypes short out eventually. Butter face is real too. I seen it.
 
2017-09-13 11:10:57 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: All my relationships with women have been successful.

That's the point.


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2017-09-13 11:12:35 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: If you want a lifetime of happiness, marry an ugly woman.

Or a fat one
 
2017-09-13 11:14:52 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: AverageAmericanGuy: If you want a lifetime of happiness, marry an ugly woman.
Or a fat one


How do you guys define "happy"?
 
2017-09-13 11:18:53 PM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: drjekel_mrhyde: AverageAmericanGuy: If you want a lifetime of happiness, marry an ugly woman.
Or a fat one

How do you guys define "happy"?


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2017-09-13 11:26:33 PM  
An ugly man with a really attractive bank account. That's the key.
 
2017-09-13 11:33:39 PM  

ThrillaManilla: I'm in like Flynn (or his uglier twin)


What "In like Flynn" may look like

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2017-09-13 11:35:02 PM  

cryinoutloud: women shouldn't go for more attractive men. That's a sure way to make yourself feel ugly. Likewise a younger man----ha, keep telling yourself that you can hold him, granny!

Men are easy to hypnotize, though, and there are all kinds of ways to blind them to your obvious flaws. the best ways:
1. Sex.
2. Also important--sex
3. Sex again
4. I said they were easy. Think.
5. I don't have to say it again, do I?

So happy hunting!


Like a tile floor: lay him right the first time and you can walk over him for 30 years.
 
2017-09-13 11:40:18 PM  

Theaetetus: uber humper: Theaetetus: uber humper: You don't believe society puts a premium on attractive women??

Yes, clearly. Oh, wait, what's this?
Theaetetus: Society places higher value on women's attractiveness than men's

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sorry, brah, I jumped the gun

I was more taking issue with your "men are more visual" comment. If men were more visual, then more men would be into fashion, no? Maybe that premise is unsupported.

T
he designers tend to be gay. That being said, I'm not gay and I like men's clothing (fashion is not the word here, style is more fitting, fashion/trends are for kids).

I think the visual part has more to do with men looking women to determine health and fitness to be a mother, not necessarily the rags she is wearing. Clothing design can accentuate and make a woman look healthier than she may otherwise. But that's not fashion that, fashion changes. Fashion is a demonstration of wealth and creativity, to lessor or greater degrees. A highly fashionable woman, IMHO, wouldn't make a good wife/mother.
 
2017-09-13 11:41:58 PM  

uber humper: Theaetetus: uber humper: Theaetetus: uber humper: You don't believe society puts a premium on attractive women??

Yes, clearly. Oh, wait, what's this?
Theaetetus: Society places higher value on women's attractiveness than men's

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sorry, brah, I jumped the gun

I was more taking issue with your "men are more visual" comment. If men were more visual, then more men would be into fashion, no? Maybe that premise is unsupported.
T
he designers tend to be gay. That being said, I'm not gay and I like men's clothing (fashion is not the word here, style is more fitting, fashion/trends are for kids).

I think the visual part has more to do with men looking women to determine health and fitness to be a mother, not necessarily the rags she is wearing. Clothing design can accentuate and make a woman look healthier than she may otherwise. But that's not fashion that, fashion changes. Fashion is a demonstration of wealth and creativity, to lessor or greater degrees. A highly fashionable woman, IMHO, wouldn't make a good wife/mother.


I have more typos than usual, I made a few edits without rereading. But you get the idea.
 
2017-09-13 11:49:31 PM  

Theaetetus: uber humper: Theaetetus: uber humper: You don't believe society puts a premium on attractive women??

Yes, clearly. Oh, wait, what's this?
Theaetetus: Society places higher value on women's attractiveness than men's

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sorry, brah, I jumped the gun

I was more taking issue with your "men are more visual" comment. If men were more visual, then more men would be into fashion, no? Maybe that premise is unsupported.


Fashion has a visual component, but it's a medium where the body is the canvas. Men aren't looking at themselves, they're looking at mates.

And lo, who uses their body as canvas to attract mates? Straight women and gay men. They're the ones hunting the visual minded prey.

Lesbians and straight guys tend to dress for comfort to the point of shabbiness if left to their own devices.

And, of course, all generalizations are false as there's always exceptions to the rule, but in general that's how the dice roll out.
 
2017-09-14 12:09:06 AM  

Theaetetus: Specifically, the study found that:
- women married to more attractive men were more motivated to diet than those married to less attractive men; and
- men were equally motivated or not to diet regardless of the relative attractiveness of their wives.


In your rush to make this article entirely about dieting, you apparently skipped the paragraphs where they noted that:

" The study had "Beauty and the Beast" results - women were happier with less genetically blessed hubbies, who compensated in the relationship with acts of kindness, including giving gifts, sexual favors or completing extra housework, according to Esquire UK.

"The husbands seemed to be basically more committed, more invested in pleasing their wives when they felt that they were getting a pretty good deal," the study said. "

In other words, unattractive men tried to make up the difference, too, they just didn't do it by working out.


Theaetetus: I was more taking issue with your "men are more visual" comment. If men were more visual, then more men would be into fashion, no?


Uh... what?  No, I don't think that follows at all.
When people say that men are more visual, they mean that men are more often turned on by purely visual sexual stimuli. Meaning, mostly, body parts. Naked body parts, bouncing body parts, body parts going into other body parts, etc.  Hence: porn.

If this were not the case, one should find an extremely puzzling phenomenon in the fact of the relative dearth of porn films and magazines that cater to women. That there is virtually no straight female equivalent to Nuts magazine, or the abject failure of Playgirl -- how else do we explain it, other than that women are simply not as interested in, or as titillated by, staring at naked men, as men are by staring at naked women?

Women, on the whole, seem to simply require more and different stimulus to really be turned on.
This seems more obvious to me than controversial.
 
2017-09-14 12:22:02 AM  
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2017-09-14 12:27:05 AM  
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Maybe he has a fetish for a woman to puke on him during sex.....
 
2017-09-14 12:39:19 AM  
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2017-09-14 12:40:26 AM  
Based on 113 couples marries less than 4 months? This is why we are umpteen trillion dollars in debt and college tuition is more than most mortgages.
 
2017-09-14 12:43:06 AM  
People not spending time at the gym are spending more time at the office making money.

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2017-09-14 12:54:31 AM  

fatalvenom: As a decently attractive guy who is a complete asshole and a narcissist, they're probably right.


When a man knows he's attractive he's pretty much no touch material for me. Every hot guy I've known has been a borderline douchenozzle with expectations of women that are so tiresome.
 
2017-09-14 12:57:25 AM  

CocoNutz: fatalvenom: As a decently attractive guy who is a complete asshole and a narcissist, they're probably right.

When a man knows he's attractive he's pretty much no touch material for me. Every hot guy I've known has been a borderline douchenozzle with expectations of women that are so tiresome.


Well, you don't have a profile pic, so who knows how you and me would have gone down, babe.
 
2017-09-14 01:54:58 AM  

Gawdzila: Theaetetus: Specifically, the study found that:
- women married to more attractive men were more motivated to diet than those married to less attractive men; and
- men were equally motivated or not to diet regardless of the relative attractiveness of their wives.

In your rush to make this article entirely about dieting, you apparently skipped the paragraphs where they noted that:

" The study had "Beauty and the Beast" results - women were happier with less genetically blessed hubbies, who compensated in the relationship with acts of kindness, including giving gifts, sexual favors or completing extra housework, according to Esquire UK.


One of these things is not like the other... I actually read the study. Not just "Esquire UK". The actual study said none of that.

That there is virtually no straight female equivalent to Nuts magazine, or the abject failure of Playgirl -- how else do we explain it, other than that women are simply not as interested in, or as titillated by, staring at naked men, as men are by staring at naked women?

Yes, the hallmark of good biological science is looking at whether a product fails in the market. It couldn't have something to do with advertising, societal pressures regarding female sexuality, or other external pressures - nope, must be evolution.

Between getting your science from market results and reading Esquire for your study analysis... Well, I have to say, welcome to Fark, Mr. Trump.
 
2017-09-14 01:55:29 AM  

CocoNutz: fatalvenom: As a decently attractive guy who is a complete asshole and a narcissist, they're probably right.

When a man knows he's attractive he's pretty much no touch material for me. Every hot guy I've known has been a borderline douchenozzle with expectations of women that are so tiresome.


Huh.

I made the mistake of dating a hot woman (she was absolutely infatuated with my scars* and motorcycle) and yeah, hot people are a pain in the ass. I'm not short (5'10"), skinny as fark (135 lbs) and the only thing keeping me out of the "jesus carp you're ugly" competition is that I can grow halfway decent facial hair. Which doesn't cover the scar down the left side of my face.

I should have known scoring a tall, leggy, european sophisticate was a trap.

Wasn't long before she was treating me like staff. We're no longer together. We lasted as long as we did because heck, I was already in there, and I was getting crazy person sex ;)

If their best feature is their looks, DON'T unless you have an exit plan. Mine ended up including a lawyer. She lost, but it still cost me.

*road rash and work related injuries from forest fires and the oilpatch, plus a few recreational injuries. Apparently stories with visual aids will get you laid.
 
2017-09-14 02:02:34 AM  
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2017-09-14 02:22:15 AM  
Hard to do a comparison study when that's pretty much the default. It's still a lot more common to see a nice-looking woman with a physically unattractive man than to see a good-looking man with an unattractive woman.
 
2017-09-14 02:42:11 AM  
It's my super power, I can make anyone look good.
 
2017-09-14 02:49:44 AM  
You don't have to worry about whether hookers think you look OK or not. Relationship considerations are moot.

Just saying.
 
2017-09-14 03:14:47 AM  
Sounds like someone took a poll, lumped those that married for money and those that married for attraction and averaged the result.
 
2017-09-14 04:30:15 AM  

GrendelMk1: CocoNutz: fatalvenom: As a decently attractive guy who is a complete asshole and a narcissist, they're probably right.

When a man knows he's attractive he's pretty much no touch material for me. Every hot guy I've known has been a borderline douchenozzle with expectations of women that are so tiresome.

Huh.

I made the mistake of dating a hot woman (she was absolutely infatuated with my scars* and motorcycle) and yeah, hot people are a pain in the ass. I'm not short (5'10"), skinny as fark (135 lbs) and the only thing keeping me out of the "jesus carp you're ugly" competition is that I can grow halfway decent facial hair. Which doesn't cover the scar down the left side of my face.

I should have known scoring a tall, leggy, european sophisticate was a trap.

Wasn't long before she was treating me like staff. We're no longer together. We lasted as long as we did because heck, I was already in there, and I was getting crazy person sex ;)

If their best feature is their looks, DON'T unless you have an exit plan. Mine ended up including a lawyer. She lost, but it still cost me.

*road rash and work related injuries from forest fires and the oilpatch, plus a few recreational injuries. Apparently stories with visual aids will get you laid.


You needed a lawyer to get out of *dating* a woman?   I just walked away from crazy and I was engaged to it.   When crazy 'just happened' to show up at my RV one day this confirmed the decision was correct.  She lived in OKC.  My gig at the time was in Ohio.
 
2017-09-14 05:52:21 AM  

gaspode: So pretty much the theory is that guys fark anything.. hot guys get chances to fark a lot of people, so hot guys cheat more, so relationships with hot guys fail more?


Or, as with hot women, men who don't have women falling at their feet their entire lives are forced to develop a personality and thoughtfulness in order to attract a mate.

That hot, immature guy is fun for a while.  Then you realise you have to mother him because he's always had everything done for him, and that "impulsive" behaviour isn't so sexy when there's bills to pay.

Nogale: a nice-looking woman with a physically unattractive man


Physically unattractive to you.  Just because someone doesn't meet the criteria that society has told you is attractive, doesn't make that person ugly.

To me Ryan Reynolds and Channing Tatum are "homely" and that's me being nice.  However society is constantly trying to tell me they are gorgeous because... I think just on the basis they have or did have well-defined abs?  Seriously?

/It's like someone used a shrink tool on Ryan Reynolds' face
//He seems like a nice guy but his face is so disturbing
///People mock Benedict Cumberbatch's weird face when RR has that micro mouth?
 
2017-09-14 05:56:54 AM  

CocoNutz: fatalvenom: As a decently attractive guy who is a complete asshole and a narcissist, they're probably right.

When a man knows he's attractive he's pretty much no touch material for me. Every hot guy I've known has been a borderline douchenozzle with expectations of women that are so tiresome.


Any guy who knows he's attractive is an asshole, purely because he can be. No one puts up with an ugly person who behaves badly, so the unattractive ones are forced to either lift their game or be alone. This doesn't happen to the good looking guy, someone is inevitably willing to put up with his shiat for the sake of being rewarded with the eye candy.
 
2017-09-14 06:10:58 AM  

GrendelMk1: CocoNutz: fatalvenom: As a decently attractive guy who is a complete asshole and a narcissist, they're probably right.

When a man knows he's attractive he's pretty much no touch material for me. Every hot guy I've known has been a borderline douchenozzle with expectations of women that are so tiresome.

Huh.

I made the mistake of dating a hot woman (she was absolutely infatuated with my scars* and motorcycle) and yeah, hot people are a pain in the ass. I'm not short (5'10"), skinny as fark (135 lbs) and the only thing keeping me out of the "jesus carp you're ugly" competition is that I can grow halfway decent facial hair. Which doesn't cover the scar down the left side of my face.

I should have known scoring a tall, leggy, european sophisticate was a trap.

Wasn't long before she was treating me like staff. We're no longer together. We lasted as long as we did because heck, I was already in there, and I was getting crazy person sex ;)

If their best feature is their looks, DON'T unless you have an exit plan. Mine ended up including a lawyer. She lost, but it still cost me.

*road rash and work related injuries from forest fires and the oilpatch, plus a few recreational injuries. Apparently stories with visual aids will get you laid.


As a man with a facial scar I can absolutely vouch for these results. It does have to be of a certain size though. Little I got something lanced or hit my head as a kid scars don't cut it. A good three to furr inches and not too sloppy. I'm sporting one on my chin that more than one woman has complimented (which is odd--"uh, yeah, thanks... I injured myself terribly).

Probably an evolved preference, in the past men with scars had survived battles, tough hunts, and the possible infections resulting. We were good stock. Now it just means we have dangerous hobbies/poor judgment, but evolution hasn't caught up-- ha HA!
 
2017-09-14 06:27:46 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: gaspode: So pretty much the theory is that guys fark anything.. hot guys get chances to fark a lot of people, so hot guys cheat more, so relationships with hot guys fail more?

Or, as with hot women, men who don't have women falling at their feet their entire lives are forced to develop a personality and thoughtfulness in order to attract a mate.

That hot, immature guy is fun for a while.  Then you realise you have to mother him because he's always had everything done for him, and that "impulsive" behaviour isn't so sexy when there's bills to pay.

Nogale: a nice-looking woman with a physically unattractive man

Physically unattractive to you.  Just because someone doesn't meet the criteria that society has told you is attractive, doesn't make that person ugly.

To me Ryan Reynolds and Channing Tatum are "homely" and that's me being nice.  However society is constantly trying to tell me they are gorgeous because... I think just on the basis they have or did have well-defined abs?  Seriously?

/It's like someone used a shrink tool on Ryan Reynolds' face
//He seems like a nice guy but his face is so disturbing
///People mock Benedict Cumberbatch's weird face when RR has that micro mouth?


Well, if we're splitting hairs, attraction isn't only about the physical. Ugly people can be incredibly attractive through the force of their personality (or wallet). The reverse is also true - a friend told me she though Jared Kushner was good looking and he actually awakens feelings of physical revulsion in me. Yet there's nothing wrong with his features - just his heart, mind, and soul.

But there are people who more or less fit the standard definition of "beautiful" and people who... don't.

And most people associate beauty with attractiveness. Thus "attractive" has come to mean "of an appealing appearance," and most people equate "appealing appearance" with beauty.
 
2017-09-14 06:55:17 AM  

Nogale: if_i_really_have_to: gaspode: So pretty much the theory is that guys fark anything.. hot guys get chances to fark a lot of people, so hot guys cheat more, so relationships with hot guys fail more?

Or, as with hot women, men who don't have women falling at their feet their entire lives are forced to develop a personality and thoughtfulness in order to attract a mate.

That hot, immature guy is fun for a while.  Then you realise you have to mother him because he's always had everything done for him, and that "impulsive" behaviour isn't so sexy when there's bills to pay.

Nogale: a nice-looking woman with a physically unattractive man

Physically unattractive to you.  Just because someone doesn't meet the criteria that society has told you is attractive, doesn't make that person ugly.

To me Ryan Reynolds and Channing Tatum are "homely" and that's me being nice.  However society is constantly trying to tell me they are gorgeous because... I think just on the basis they have or did have well-defined abs?  Seriously?

/It's like someone used a shrink tool on Ryan Reynolds' face
//He seems like a nice guy but his face is so disturbing
///People mock Benedict Cumberbatch's weird face when RR has that micro mouth?

Well, if we're splitting hairs, attraction isn't only about the physical. Ugly people can be incredibly attractive through the force of their personality (or wallet). The reverse is also true - a friend told me she though Jared Kushner was good looking and he actually awakens feelings of physical revulsion in me. Yet there's nothing wrong with his features - just his heart, mind, and soul.

But there are people who more or less fit the standard definition of "beautiful" and people who... don't.

And most people associate beauty with attractiveness. Thus "attractive" has come to mean "of an appealing appearance," and most people equate "appealing appearance" with beauty.


All true, things like charm and charisma influence how "attractive" a person may be perceived as being.

Interestingly, studies have shown that when it comes to physical appeal, men are pretty much in agreement on what is attractive and there is a fairly narrow segment of women who qualify. A woman who isn't thought of as attractive by one man, tends to be perceived as unattractive by almost all men.

Women on the other hand find a much larger variety of physical features appealing, and the range of attractiveness in men is larger in one aspect, being that what appeals to one woman may not appeal to another, and what is a turn-off to one, can be a turn-on to someone else. So a larger number of men have the chance of being regarded as handsome to some woman somewhere.
 
2017-09-14 07:01:53 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: That hot, immature guy is fun for a while.  Then you realise you have to mother him because he's always had everything done for him, and that "impulsive" behaviour isn't so sexy when there's bills to pay.


Take out the "hot" bit and been there doing that, but hey, standards are for people with options, and I'm possibly an idiot.
 
hej [TotalFark]
2017-09-14 07:24:29 AM  
TIL exercising and eating healthy is a "negative consequence" for women.
 
2017-09-14 07:34:08 AM  

hej: TIL exercising and eating healthy is a "negative consequence" for women.


Of course it is. It is for a lot of people, why do you think we have an "obesity epidemic"? It's not helping anyone to pretend that exercise and diets are fun and pleasurable.
 
2017-09-14 07:47:40 AM  
So you're saying each of those Bob Newhart shows were NOT unrealistic?
 
2017-09-14 07:48:47 AM  

Kriggerel: Now, if the less attractive man is currently, or has previously been in prison, they'll be crawling all over one another to get to him.

All the real men are in jail, and all of that...


I have seen the women who go for ex cons.  Do not want.
 
2017-09-14 08:10:20 AM  
Matt Damon would disagree with this.
 
2017-09-14 08:20:12 AM  
I'm married to a woman that isn't conventionally pretty. To me she's scorchingly hot, and that's just physically. She's possibly the most engaging woman I've ever known. I'm curious about how 'attractiveness' was framed in this study.
 
hej [TotalFark]
2017-09-14 09:26:13 AM  

Nidiot: hej: TIL exercising and eating healthy is a "negative consequence" for women.

Of course it is. It is for a lot of people, why do you think we have an "obesity epidemic"? It's not helping anyone to pretend that exercise and diets are fun and pleasurable.


Eating quality food is far more pleasurable to me than eating fast food trash, and I don't consider working out to be a chore.
 
hej [TotalFark]
2017-09-14 09:30:34 AM  

Nidiot: hej: TIL exercising and eating healthy is a "negative consequence" for women.

Of course it is. It is for a lot of people, why do you think we have an "obesity epidemic"? It's not helping anyone to pretend that exercise and diets are fun and pleasurable.


TFA points to men being driven to keep in shape in much the same way, but framing it as a positive instead of a negative.
 
2017-09-14 11:35:15 AM  
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The formula has worked for me just fine.
 
2017-09-14 02:48:07 PM  

tarheel07: Like a tile floor: lay him right the first time and you can walk over him for 30 years.


Nice.
 
2017-09-14 02:55:52 PM  
So, is this why I'm having trouble meeting someone, they're all looking for homely guys?

Coming next week: major scientific report says that couples drinking coffee together is a better indication that they will be happier and stay together!

Coming the week after: another major study says that couples that feed each other dark chocolate are the happiest....
 
2017-09-14 03:24:06 PM  
Most of the month they want the best, safest, most secure nest.

For a few days of the month, they want the best genes

Science

If you want their telephone number, speak into their left ear.
 
2017-09-14 09:54:17 PM  

karlandtanya: GrendelMk1: CocoNutz: fatalvenom: As a decently attractive guy who is a complete asshole and a narcissist, they're probably right.

When a man knows he's attractive he's pretty much no touch material for me. Every hot guy I've known has been a borderline douchenozzle with expectations of women that are so tiresome.

Huh.

I made the mistake of dating a hot woman (she was absolutely infatuated with my scars* and motorcycle) and yeah, hot people are a pain in the ass. I'm not short (5'10"), skinny as fark (135 lbs) and the only thing keeping me out of the "jesus carp you're ugly" competition is that I can grow halfway decent facial hair. Which doesn't cover the scar down the left side of my face.

I should have known scoring a tall, leggy, european sophisticate was a trap.

Wasn't long before she was treating me like staff. We're no longer together. We lasted as long as we did because heck, I was already in there, and I was getting crazy person sex ;)

If their best feature is their looks, DON'T unless you have an exit plan. Mine ended up including a lawyer. She lost, but it still cost me.

*road rash and work related injuries from forest fires and the oilpatch, plus a few recreational injuries. Apparently stories with visual aids will get you laid.

You needed a lawyer to get out of *dating* a woman?   I just walked away from crazy and I was engaged to it.   When crazy 'just happened' to show up at my RV one day this confirmed the decision was correct.  She lived in OKC.  My gig at the time was in Ohio.


Yeah, I broke up with her, and the next morning I woke up to the police and a domestic assault charge. Totally fabricated, but I had to go through the whole court process. Not a really good time.
 
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