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2017-09-13 08:08:59 PM  
I'm Tom Bodett for Motel 6, We'll lead the ICE on to you.
 
2017-09-13 08:19:05 PM  
Everybody's a snitch these days.
 
2017-09-13 08:21:44 PM  
Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.
 
2017-09-13 08:46:44 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.


You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.
 
2017-09-13 08:47:50 PM  
Somebody's gonna have a bad Yelp rating.
 
2017-09-13 08:50:18 PM  

EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.


You also lose people who think it's creepy to be giving lists of your customers to law enforcement. Presuming your customers are all criminals should be insulting to all customers.

Plus it definitely makes me wonder who you're catering to if you're making that assumption.
 
2017-09-13 08:52:04 PM  

EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.


That is exactly the point I was looking to drive home.  Personally I have a "Not the US" as a travel criteria for a couple years,  this would further let me pinpoint places I'd refuse to patron.
 
2017-09-13 08:59:51 PM  

BumpInTheNight: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

That is exactly the point I was looking to drive home.  Personally I have a "Not the US" as a travel criteria for a couple years,  this would further let me pinpoint places I'd refuse to patron.


I hope you don't mind me asking:

Where in Canada would you recommend I go for some sort of authentic experience?

I've been to Toronto. It seemed extremely sterile. Too clean. Like a subarctic version of the city from The Matrix (I know Toronto isn't actually in a subarctic zone, but it was March, and I'm from Virginia.).
 
2017-09-13 09:01:34 PM  
Aren't most Motels owned by immigrants these days.
Patels in particular.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/1999/07/04/magazine/a-patel-motel-cartel.h​t​ml

And aren't at least some of them Trump fans
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/business/trump-organization-ame​r​ican-idea-hotel-chain.html

IDK maybe they are pissed that they can't bring the rest of their family over and these Mexicans sneak over.
 
2017-09-13 09:04:19 PM  

Sid_6.7: I hope you don't mind me asking:

Where in Canada would you recommend I go for some sort of authentic experience?

I've been to Toronto. It seemed extremely sterile. Too clean. Like a subarctic version of the city from The Matrix (I know Toronto isn't actually in a subarctic zone, but it was March, and I'm from Virginia.).


Oh man yah Toronto is america-wannabe-land, I guess it largely depends on what you're after:  Formal & stuffy tourist stuff well Ottawa is the place, want some genuine french-canadian culture then that'd be Montreal (which has a lot of sweet historic stuff too).  Want to be on the west coast without all the americans?  Vancouver for sure.  Feel like eating a lot of fish?  Somewhere in the east coast.

Want to be in America but with a barely different canadian spin?  Somewhere in Alberta.
 
2017-09-13 09:13:04 PM  
Great work patriots!
Until they snitch on someone working for a big cartel, or interfere with a substantial transaction.

/Motel 6 Feet Under
 
2017-09-13 09:22:52 PM  
FTFA: Like the current situation at the Phoenix location, guests were not notified their information would be shared.

Its pretty shiatty to not tell your customers they are going to have personal data sent to the poilice. People have a right to know when their personal information is going to be accessed by a third party as a matter of course during a business transaction.
 
2017-09-13 09:30:44 PM  

spongeboob: Aren't most Motels owned by immigrants these days.
Patels in particular.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/1999/07/04/magazine/a-patel-motel-cartel.ht​ml

And aren't at least some of them Trump fans
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/business/trump-organization-amer​ican-idea-hotel-chain.html

IDK maybe they are pissed that they can't bring the rest of their family over and these Mexicans sneak over.


TFA says they're corporate owned.
 
2017-09-13 09:36:29 PM  
Snitches get stitches.
 
2017-09-13 09:37:30 PM  
I already won't stay at a Motel 6 anymore due to a horrible experience in Henderson, but this seals it. Fark them.
 
2017-09-13 09:40:18 PM  
I feel horrible for laughing at that, subby.

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2017-09-13 09:51:50 PM  
There's all kinds of places you can identify illegals in the Phoenix area. Why ICE has such a hard time finding them is beyond me.

Putting your business front and center into a big political deals a sure way to lose business. I wonder what else they on the lookout for?
 
2017-09-13 10:05:28 PM  

spongeboob: Aren't most Motels owned by immigrants these days.
Patels in particular.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/1999/07/04/magazine/a-patel-motel-cartel.h t ml

And aren't at least some of them Trump fans
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/business/trump-organization-ame r ican-idea-hotel-chain.html

IDK maybe they are pissed that they can't bring the rest of their family over and these Mexicans sneak over.


What do immigrants have to do with this?
 
2017-09-13 10:05:49 PM  
No more Motel 6 for me. Screw that.
 
2017-09-13 10:06:11 PM  
"We'll leave the light on for you. And lock the door from the outside."
 
2017-09-13 10:09:20 PM  
Oh god dammit. They've been pretty decent since their remodel a few years ago. Guess I need to find a new hotel to crash at.
 
2017-09-13 10:09:31 PM  
I thought it was going to be an article about meth or something.
 
2017-09-13 10:09:50 PM  

davidphogan: spongeboob: Aren't most Motels owned by immigrants these days.
Patels in particular.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/1999/07/04/magazine/a-patel-motel-cartel.ht​ml

And aren't at least some of them Trump fans
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/business/trump-organization-amer​ican-idea-hotel-chain.html

IDK maybe they are pissed that they can't bring the rest of their family over and these Mexicans sneak over.

TFA says they're corporate owned.


By CEAssholes
 
2017-09-13 10:10:30 PM  
Motel 86'd
 
2017-09-13 10:11:14 PM  

Godscrack: Great work patriots!
Until they snitch on someone working for a big cartel, or interfere with a substantial transaction.

/Motel 6 Feet Under



Yeah, because cartels are card-carrying members of hotel chains.  Really?
 
2017-09-13 10:12:41 PM  

EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.


I'd say they've lost my business, but you wouldn't catch me in one these days, I value my comfortable... Clean sleep.

But as a younger man with less money and would do random things with friends like drive to Vegas on a whim, we'd just find the nearest cheapest motel or hotel off a random exit.

Or in highschool and we needed to throw a party.

But I sure as shiat will run my mouth about them given the opportunity
 
2017-09-13 10:16:42 PM  

Buttknuckle: I thought it was going to be an article about meth or something.


Yeah, figured they busted the manager selling large quantities or something.
 
2017-09-13 10:16:47 PM  
During the Obama, or even the Bush Administration, when an immigrant had to bend over backwards, and practically join MS19 and be suspected of a couple of murders, to get an ICE warrant, this wouldn't bother me as much.  It would still be creepy, but it would at least be understandable.  Now that we are going after former J1s who overstayed their visas, because they thought they were going to eventually get married to their American boyfriend who was just using them, and guys who have been here most of their life, and can't even remember living in another country, who have jobs and careers and never been in trouble with the law, now that we are going after those people, and seeing them as threats to America (all while Russian attorneys who try to influence our elections are seen as nice guys), it is disgusting on a level that can not be described.  Illegal immigration is a minor paperwork crime, in most cases.  It should be handled with a small fine, if appropriate, with the perpetrator given the chance to fix their status and stay in the country, provided they keep their nose clean, pay taxes, and don't commit acts of espionage against America.  I would rather keep the illegals, and deport most of Trump's supporters.
 
2017-09-13 10:17:50 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Godscrack: Great work patriots!
Until they snitch on someone working for a big cartel, or interfere with a substantial transaction.

/Motel 6 Feet Under


Yeah, because cartels are card-carrying members of hotel chains.  Really?


Well if they snitch on a courier of large quantities of product or cash coming back...
 
2017-09-13 10:18:40 PM  

Sid_6.7: BumpInTheNight: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

That is exactly the point I was looking to drive home.  Personally I have a "Not the US" as a travel criteria for a couple years,  this would further let me pinpoint places I'd refuse to patron.

I hope you don't mind me asking:

Where in Canada would you recommend I go for some sort of authentic experience?

I've been to Toronto. It seemed extremely sterile. Too clean. Like a subarctic version of the city from The Matrix (I know Toronto isn't actually in a subarctic zone, but it was March, and I'm from Virginia.).


If you want gritty, I could show you some places in toronto that would curl your toes. Try Quebec City or Montreal.  Our east coast is nice, but let's be real, you have your own nice east coast.  Banff is in the mountains and super nice.  Really touristy though. Hot springs and snowboarding and all that jazz.  Jasper is like that old show northern exposure.  Hot springs and boarding but way more rural.  If you didn't like toronto , you won't like Vancouver.  If we are New York jr, they are San Fran jr.  Vancouver island really is a nice place, but maybe fly.  The ferry is cool but takes way too long.  Yes I have been to all these places.  Including New York and San Francisco.
 
2017-09-13 10:20:43 PM  
"It's Motel Six, not Motel Seis, Manuel!"
 
2017-09-13 10:22:08 PM  
you can check out anytime you want, but you can never leave.

etc
 
2017-09-13 10:22:13 PM  

Sean VasDeferens: What do immigrants have to do with this?


Not sure if troll or simply typical Trump voter...

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2017-09-13 10:23:25 PM  
доносчик.
 
2017-09-13 10:25:24 PM  

davidphogan: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

You also lose people who think it's creepy to be giving lists of your customers to law enforcement.
Presuming your customers are all criminals should be insulting to all customers.

Plus it definitely makes me wonder who you're catering to if you're making that assumption.


Both of these reasons work for me.  I generally go up at least one notch from Motel 6 when on the road but  I have stayed at them before.  No More.
 
2017-09-13 10:29:05 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Godscrack: Great work patriots!
Until they snitch on someone working for a big cartel, or interfere with a substantial transaction.

/Motel 6 Feet Under


Yeah, because cartels are card-carrying members of hotel chains.  Really?


Some guys who were running meth throughout LA were busted at a Sheraton I worked with. Apparently the cartels preferred the Starwood Preferred Guest points.
 
2017-09-13 10:31:35 PM  
So, I wonder how Motel 6 patrons feel about a class action lawsuit alleging privacy violations...
 
2017-09-13 10:33:51 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Sid_6.7: I hope you don't mind me asking:

Where in Canada would you recommend I go for some sort of authentic experience?

I've been to Toronto. It seemed extremely sterile. Too clean. Like a subarctic version of the city from The Matrix (I know Toronto isn't actually in a subarctic zone, but it was March, and I'm from Virginia.).

Oh man yah Toronto is america-wannabe-land, I guess it largely depends on what you're after:  Formal & stuffy tourist stuff well Ottawa is the place, want some genuine french-canadian culture then that'd be Montreal (which has a lot of sweet historic stuff too).  Want to be on the west coast without all the americans?  Vancouver for sure.  Feel like eating a lot of fish?  Somewhere in the east coast.

Want to be in America but with a barely different canadian spin?  Somewhere in Alberta.


Heh.  I made a quick trek across Canadia this spring and was going to suggest Vancouver and Montreal.  So much to do in both cities.  Calgary was decent.  Might go back for the Stampede some year.  Saskatchewan and Manitoba get a hard pass.  Ontario was pretty driving around Lake Superior but not much of interest except outdoorsy stuff.  Honestly, it would have been a lot more fun spending 5 days in Vancouver then flying to Montreal for another 5 days.  But then I couldn't say I drove across Canada.  :D
 
2017-09-13 10:38:07 PM  
Your 26% motel tax ad on at work.
 
2017-09-13 10:41:32 PM  

davidphogan: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

You also lose people who think it's creepy to be giving lists of your customers to law enforcement. Presuming your customers are all criminals should be insulting to all customers.


You all would think so, but remember, it's Phoenix, Arizona.
 
2017-09-13 10:41:55 PM  
"We'll leave the white on for you. ...LIGHT! We meant light."
 
2017-09-13 10:42:08 PM  

winedrinkingman: During the Obama, or even the Bush Administration, when an immigrant had to bend over backwards, and practically join MS19 and be suspected of a couple of murders, to get an ICE warrant, this wouldn't bother me as much.  It would still be creepy, but it would at least be understandable.  Now that we are going after former J1s who overstayed their visas, because they thought they were going to eventually get married to their American boyfriend who was just using them, and guys who have been here most of their life, and can't even remember living in another country, who have jobs and careers and never been in trouble with the law, now that we are going after those people, and seeing them as threats to America (all while Russian attorneys who try to influence our elections are seen as nice guys), it is disgusting on a level that can not be described.  Illegal immigration is a minor paperwork crime, in most cases.  It should be handled with a small fine, if appropriate, with the perpetrator given the chance to fix their status and stay in the country, provided they keep their nose clean, pay taxes, and don't commit acts of espionage against America.  I would rather keep the illegals, and deport most of Trump's supporters.


ICE = SS. Anyone working for them are be-gloved assholes.
 
2017-09-13 10:42:36 PM  

FormlessOne: So, I wonder how Motel 6 patrons feel about a class action lawsuit alleging privacy violations...


I wonder if you read the part where it's completely legal for them to share your sign-in info with police.  A little hard to sue over a legal action.  Granted if they're sharing credit card information, that would be a different problem, and I say sue on.
 
2017-09-13 10:42:53 PM  

Sid_6.7: BumpInTheNight: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

That is exactly the point I was looking to drive home.  Personally I have a "Not the US" as a travel criteria for a couple years,  this would further let me pinpoint places I'd refuse to patron.

I hope you don't mind me asking:

Where in Canada would you recommend I go for some sort of authentic experience?

I've been to Toronto. It seemed extremely sterile. Too clean. Like a subarctic version of the city from The Matrix (I know Toronto isn't actually in a subarctic zone, but it was March, and I'm from Virginia.).


Montreal might have that feeling you're looking for: charming, metropolitan, but ever so slightly dumpy and rough around some edges.
 
2017-09-13 10:48:11 PM  
Back in 2005, I lived in San Diego.  My wife and I were splitting and I checked into a former Best Western that went privately owned right off the 5 on Oceanside Blvd so I could do some community service at the welfare dept.

Little did I know, I also has a contempt of court warrant.  First morning, I wake to pounding on my door.  I look through the peep hole but its blocked.  I opened the door and let in 2 undercover officers who were there to arrest me.

I asked how the hell they even knew I was there, they said that there's a lot of crime at that hotel and they send the guest list to the cops daily.

That was a shiatty way to spend a day.
 
2017-09-13 10:48:39 PM  

Sean VasDeferens: spongeboob: Aren't most Motels owned by immigrants these days.
Patels in particular.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/1999/07/04/magazine/a-patel-motel-cartel.h t ml

And aren't at least some of them Trump fans
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/business/trump-organization-ame r ican-idea-hotel-chain.html

IDK maybe they are pissed that they can't bring the rest of their family over and these Mexicans sneak over.

What do immigrants have to do with this?


I would think immigrants would be more empathatic,

And there are a half million illegal immigrants from India in America
http://m.hindustantimes.com/world-news/donald-trump-hardens-immigrati​o​n-rules-3-lakh-indian-americans-to-be-affected/story-L1YaYVWOo1ZvWJG97​oNmHJ.html
But no one ever talks about them or the 50,000 Irish illegal immigrants
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/03/16/us/white-iris​h​-undocumented-trnd/index.html

Something tells me motel six is passing only Mexican names to ICE.
 
2017-09-13 10:56:39 PM  
I heard Montreal has the best strip clubs.
 
2017-09-13 10:59:17 PM  

EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.


If you have the same name as someone ICE is interested in, the hotel is either giving a shiat ton of your info to the feds or get ready for the mistaken identity raid.
 
2017-09-13 11:01:01 PM  

davidphogan: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

You also lose people who think it's creepy to be giving lists of your customers to law enforcement. Presuming your customers are all criminals should be insulting to all customers.

Plus it definitely makes me wonder who you're catering to if you're making that assumption.


Hotels and motels already do this if  they suspect rooms are being used for prostitution or drug deals.
 
2017-09-13 11:07:08 PM  

Your Dance Instructor: Sid_6.7: BumpInTheNight: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

That is exactly the point I was looking to drive home.  Personally I have a "Not the US" as a travel criteria for a couple years,  this would further let me pinpoint places I'd refuse to patron.

I hope you don't mind me asking:

Where in Canada would you recommend I go for some sort of authentic experience?

I've been to Toronto. It seemed extremely sterile. Too clean. Like a subarctic version of the city from The Matrix (I know Toronto isn't actually in a subarctic zone, but it was March, and I'm from Virginia.).

If you want gritty, I could show you some places in toronto that would curl your toes. Try Quebec City or Montreal.  Our east coast is nice, but let's be real, you have your own nice east coast.  Banff is in the mountains and super nice.  Really touristy though. Hot springs and snowboarding and all that jazz.  Jasper is like that old show northern exposure.  Hot springs and boarding but way more rural.  If you didn't like toronto , you won't like Vancouver.  If we are New York jr, they are San Fran jr.  Vancouver island really is a nice place, but maybe fly.  The ferry is cool but takes way too long.  Yes I have been to all these places.  Including New York and San Francisco.


Jill Sobule: San Francisco - OFFICIAL Video directed by Margaret Cho
Youtube XRluUWnfIsI
 
2017-09-13 11:08:27 PM  
Would you like your ice cubed or vanilla?
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or in traditional Mr Cool flavor
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2017-09-13 11:11:49 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.


Not really...I stay away from those motels because of the crimes their customers draw in.
 
2017-09-13 11:12:37 PM  

mudpants: Would you like your ice cubed or vanilla?
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or in traditional Mr Cool flavor
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Ice T - Colors
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2017-09-13 11:13:05 PM  

cyberspacedout: davidphogan: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

You also lose people who think it's creepy to be giving lists of your customers to law enforcement. Presuming your customers are all criminals should be insulting to all customers.

You all would think so, but remember, it's Phoenix, Arizona.


If they're doing it in Phoenix at corporate owned locations they're probably doing it elsewhere.
 
2017-09-13 11:13:13 PM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: davidphogan: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

You also lose people who think it's creepy to be giving lists of your customers to law enforcement. Presuming your customers are all criminals should be insulting to all customers.

Plus it definitely makes me wonder who you're catering to if you're making that assumption.

Hotels and motels already do this if  they suspect rooms are being used for prostitution or drug deals.


No kidding... I had see plenty of that over the years.
 
2017-09-13 11:13:25 PM  
"In one case, for example, a statement of probable cause indicated that ICE's Mobile Criminal Alien Unit was "following a lead" when they "encountered" one of Maldonado's clients, but the fact that they had his exact room number when he was only staying there one night "was too much of a coincidence." Maldonado believes ICE compares the guest lists with warrant lists to find individuals who are undocumented."

So this lawyer's stance is "My client is here illegally, and had a warrant out for his arrest, but it was too easy for ICE to find him"?
 
2017-09-13 11:13:45 PM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: davidphogan: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

You also lose people who think it's creepy to be giving lists of your customers to law enforcement. Presuming your customers are all criminals should be insulting to all customers.

Plus it definitely makes me wonder who you're catering to if you're making that assumption.

Hotels and motels already do this if  they suspect rooms are being used for prostitution or drug deals.


They hand over lists of everyone and let the police sort it out, or they call in the single room that they suspect of it?
 
2017-09-13 11:20:22 PM  
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2017-09-13 11:23:29 PM  
UPDATE (10:32 PM):Motel 6 confirms that guest lists were shared with ICE and says the practice has now been discontinued. "

Too late, a**holes.
I hope they lose a ton of money over this.
 
2017-09-13 11:25:41 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: "It's Motel Six, not Motel Seis, Manuel!"


More like Motel Seize
 
2017-09-13 11:26:47 PM  
I used to stay with Motel 6 a great deal because I don't need anything fancy: just a place to shower and plug in my phone, camera, and coffee maker. No more
 
2017-09-13 11:35:04 PM  
Fark Motel 6. Those bastards don't want your farking business. I'll never stay with them again.

My family stayed at one in Billing, MT, several years ago, and we were told that we should have gone somewhere else, because there were "too many" people in our group.

"Had we known there were five people in your group, we wouldn't have accepted your reservation."

Gee...if only they had been notified NO LESS THAN THREE TIMES about the size of our party...once when I made the reservation online, once when we were ALL STANDING in the lobby paying for our room, and once when we came down to complain about the toilet being backed up. But, yeah..."if they had known..."

What was really stupid about that was the fact that my family had stayed at that particular Motel 6 just a few years prior without a problem.

Assholes.
 
2017-09-13 11:44:40 PM  

davidphogan: Keyser_Soze_Death: davidphogan: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

You also lose people who think it's creepy to be giving lists of your customers to law enforcement. Presuming your customers are all criminals should be insulting to all customers.

Plus it definitely makes me wonder who you're catering to if you're making that assumption.

Hotels and motels already do this if  they suspect rooms are being used for prostitution or drug deals.

They hand over lists of everyone and let the police sort it out, or they call in the single room that they suspect of it?


It depends on what the cops ask for, and what is going on in the area at the time. It could start with 1-2 rooms and lead up to the whole list of guests, especially during festival events or conventions.
 
2017-09-13 11:45:23 PM  

Walker: Snitches get stitches bedbugs.


/FTFY
 
2017-09-13 11:56:28 PM  

FlyingBacon: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

Not really...I stay away from those motels because of the crimes their customers draw in.


Well, here's two motels where the criminals don't get to hang around.
 
2017-09-13 11:58:55 PM  

Sid_6.7: Your Dance Instructor: Sid_6.7: BumpInTheNight: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

That is exactly the point I was looking to drive home.  Personally I have a "Not the US" as a travel criteria for a couple years,  this would further let me pinpoint places I'd refuse to patron.

I hope you don't mind me asking:

Where in Canada would you recommend I go for some sort of authentic experience?

I've been to Toronto. It seemed extremely sterile. Too clean. Like a subarctic version of the city from The Matrix (I know Toronto isn't actually in a subarctic zone, but it was March, and I'm from Virginia.).

If you want gritty, I could show you some places in toronto that would curl your toes. Try Quebec City or Montreal.  Our east coast is nice, but let's be real, you have your own nice east coast.  Banff is in the mountains and super nice.  Really touristy though. Hot springs and snowboarding and all that jazz.  Jasper is like that old show northern exposure.  Hot springs and boarding but way more rural.  If you didn't like toronto , you won't like Vancouver.  If we are New York jr, they are San Fran jr.  Vancouver island really is a nice place, but maybe fly.  The ferry is cool but takes way too long.  Yes I have been to all these places.  Including New York and San Francisco.

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CSB:
I was in high school when "I Kissed a Girl" by Jill Sobule came out.  I had a friend that was on an AOL message board and all these aholes were calling her a f*ggot and all that.  Well, my friend started defending Jill.  They formed a friendship and a couple months later, Jill flew out and they hung out.
 
2017-09-13 11:59:06 PM  
Makes you wonder what Motel 6 thought they had to gain -- or lose.  And whether they're the only one.  I think we're not getting the full story here.

I guess someone could have ordered this just out of spite, but I'm suspicious.
 
2017-09-14 12:00:24 AM  
Unless there's an incentive I can't see why they'd do this. They risk a boycott when they're found out, which is what will happen now, and they don't gain any gun-totin' redneck good ol' boy customers because it's not like those guys ever have warrants. So the question is what was ICE doing for them that made them take such a risk?
 
2017-09-14 12:00:28 AM  
Who the hell cleans the rooms?

/Yes I know
//Going to hell
///Welcome to Fark
 
2017-09-14 12:07:19 AM  

Old Smokie: Makes you wonder what Motel 6 thought they had to gain -- or lose.  And whether they're the only one.  I think we're not getting the full story here.


They get criminals with warrants removed before they cause more trouble, so fewer people complain about the ruckus caused by them.
 
2017-09-14 12:18:22 AM  

WelldeadLink: Old Smokie: Makes you wonder what Motel 6 thought they had to gain -- or lose.  And whether they're the only one.  I think we're not getting the full story here.

They get criminals with warrants removed before they cause more trouble, so fewer people complain about the ruckus caused by them.


Fair enough.  I couldn't tell if warrant meant they had done something or were just illegal.  I've lived around illegals, and it seemed like they kept their heads down, especially compared to the trash that lived next to us.  Of course those guys had jobs and weren't living at Motel 6.
 
2017-09-14 12:28:13 AM  

spongeboob: Aren't most Motels owned by immigrants these days.
Patels in particular.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/1999/07/04/magazine/a-patel-motel-cartel.ht​ml

And aren't at least some of them Trump fans
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/business/trump-organization-amer​ican-idea-hotel-chain.html

IDK maybe they are pissed that they can't bring the rest of their family over and these Mexicans sneak over.


Every hotel I ever did work for was owned by a Patel. Gas stations too. Something we learned early on is that we had to pad our contract prices with extra money so we could take it back off for Indians. Most people we dealt with we'd say "this is our lowest price." And it was. Enough to get a fair profit, but not worth the job to go much lower. But Indians don't play that way. We would bid a job and the owner would say "No, you need to take off 200 bucks." We'd explain he was already getting the best deal we had. Nope. If you don't take off money, they will NOT do business with you. So for Indians we would add 500 bucks so we could take off 400 and make them happy.
Once my dad was talking to a gas station owner about a 16 camera DVR system for his truck stop. It was one of our first jobs and we bid bare bottom to get our foot in the door. Guy was determined to get 100 bucks off. My dad notices a picture of a Ferrari on his desk and asks about it. The guy says "oh, I am flying to Italy next month to buy that." My dad looks at him for a second and say "You are flying to Italy. To buy a Ferrari. And you are busting my balls over 100 bucks?"

Indians just simply do not deal with set prices.
 
2017-09-14 12:28:47 AM  

Walker: Snitches get stitches.


Rats get bats.
 
2017-09-14 12:37:29 AM  
Go have a Mexican name somewhere else?

"Welcome sir, and thank you for choosing Motel 6. May I have your name please?"
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"My name? Oh, sí, sí. My name. My name is Jeremy. Jeremy Rosevelt McCutcheon. Sí, that is my name."
 
2017-09-14 12:39:27 AM  

MythDragon: spongeboob: Aren't most Motels owned by immigrants these days.
Patels in particular.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/1999/07/04/magazine/a-patel-motel-cartel.ht​ml

And aren't at least some of them Trump fans
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/business/trump-organization-amer​ican-idea-hotel-chain.html

IDK maybe they are pissed that they can't bring the rest of their family over and these Mexicans sneak over.

Every hotel I ever did work for was owned by a Patel. Gas stations too. Something we learned early on is that we had to pad our contract prices with extra money so we could take it back off for Indians. Most people we dealt with we'd say "this is our lowest price." And it was. Enough to get a fair profit, but not worth the job to go much lower. But Indians don't play that way. We would bid a job and the owner would say "No, you need to take off 200 bucks." We'd explain he was already getting the best deal we had. Nope. If you don't take off money, they will NOT do business with you. So for Indians we would add 500 bucks so we could take off 400 and make them happy.
Once my dad was talking to a gas station owner about a 16 camera DVR system for his truck stop. It was one of our first jobs and we bid bare bottom to get our foot in the door. Guy was determined to get 100 bucks off. My dad notices a picture of a Ferrari on his desk and asks about it. The guy says "oh, I am flying to Italy next month to buy that." My dad looks at him for a second and say "You are flying to Italy. To buy a Ferrari. And you are busting my balls over 100 bucks?"

Indians just simply do not deal with set prices.


What you state is true, unfortunately.  I worked in the Petrolium Industry with point-of-sale equipment and this was the norm.
 
2017-09-14 01:01:24 AM  
The owner probably fell for the old "Nice place you got there. It'll be a shame if something bad happen to it".
 
2017-09-14 01:06:06 AM  
So US hotels don't generally record ID info beyond verifying that your name matches your credit card and the reservation.

How the fark is ICE going to screen everyone and verify their immigration status based on that?

Or is anyone named José Garcia going to get a late night visit, even if they're just a tourist or a citizen?
 
2017-09-14 01:17:49 AM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: davidphogan: Keyser_Soze_Death: davidphogan: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

You also lose people who think it's creepy to be giving lists of your customers to law enforcement. Presuming your customers are all criminals should be insulting to all customers.

Plus it definitely makes me wonder who you're catering to if you're making that assumption.

Hotels and motels already do this if they suspect rooms are being used for prostitution or drug deals.

They hand over lists of everyone and let the police sort it out, or they call in the single room that they suspect of it?

It depends on what the cops ask for, and what is going on in the area at the time. It could start with 1-2 rooms and lead up to the whole list of guests, especially during festival events or conventions.


Okay, if cops are asking for the lists that's different than turning them over nightly.  If the cops are asking for lists of any place's guests nightly maybe there's a better way to handle the problems that are leading them back nightly?
 
2017-09-14 01:22:01 AM  

EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.


You'll also gain the idiots who celebrate fascism as long as it's meted out on anyone but them.
 
2017-09-14 01:40:17 AM  
I worked for San Jose Airport location for Motel 6, (CA btw) back in 2000, and each night the police would stop by and request a printout of the guests, they would scan the list in front of me and circle names and then run them.. of course I didn't approve of this, but it was my job and I had to do it, but I think it has gotten worse over the years.. glad I no longer work for them, nor would I ever stay there.
 
2017-09-14 01:44:05 AM  
"... and the U.S. Supreme Court agreed that they can't legally be forced to share that information."

No, not legally... but you better do it.
 
2017-09-14 02:24:04 AM  

KingBiefWhistle: Oh god dammit. They've been pretty decent since their remodel a few years ago. Guess I need to find a new hotel to crash at.


You can give this place a try if you ever pass through Tucson.
 
2017-09-14 02:24:44 AM  

spongeboob: And there are a half million illegal immigrants from India in America ...
But no one ever talks about them or the 50,000 Irish illegal immigrants


.5/11 = .04545
.05/11 = .004545
 
2017-09-14 02:39:36 AM  
I used to stay at Motel 6 all the time, and stopped when their quality went in the crapper and started to swirl. I'd sleep in my car before I stayed in that one around Charleston again -- the room smelled weird ... AC unit didn't work, probably because they'd jammed two beds into a room built for one and partly mashed it ... there were a few other things ... but the last straw was the shower, which drizzled lukewarm water at me the next morning. I'm not very picky about motels (though I could do without the weird smells), but the one thing I do want is a scalding-hot shower to mostly wake me up in the morning. Not a lukewarm drizzle. When I mentioned this to the desk clerk at checkout, she said "oh, yeah, it's always that way in those units."

I did stay in one in Maine when my aunt was in the hospital because it was cheap-ish, but this is the last straw. Clean, comfortable, cheap rooms have become not-so-clean, questionable, middle-priced rooms, and knowing that the company considers themselves a front-end for ICE just tears it. Any company that thinks it's good business to try to get their guests arrested is one I don't want to do business with -- and no, I've never gotten so much as a traffic ticket; it's not that I'm worried they'll target me.
 
2017-09-14 02:52:40 AM  

DeaH: Somebody's gonna have a bad Yelp rating.


So I have to ask if my info is being shared?  Isn't there a box I need to check?
 
2017-09-14 03:02:52 AM  

GDubDub: Back in 2005, I lived in San Diego.  My wife and I were splitting and I checked into a former Best Western that went privately owned right off the 5 on Oceanside Blvd so I could do some community service at the welfare dept.

Little did I know, I also has a contempt of court warrant.  First morning, I wake to pounding on my door.  I look through the peep hole but its blocked.  I opened the door and let in 2 undercover officers who were there to arrest me.

I asked how the hell they even knew I was there, they said that there's a lot of crime at that hotel and they send the guest list to the cops daily.

That was a shiatty way to spend a day.


Who the fark opens a door when a thumb covers the peep hole?
 
2017-09-14 03:05:00 AM  

fnordfocus: So US hotels don't generally record ID info beyond verifying that your name matches your credit card and the reservation.

How the fark is ICE going to screen everyone and verify their immigration status based on that?

Or is anyone named José Garcia going to get a late night visit, even if they're just a tourist or a citizen?


Exactly why I call bullshiat on this. I've worked the overnight shift in hotels in Florida for years, and first off, we'd never bother even matching the name with the credit card. If the card worked, you could be Mickey Mouse as far as we cared. I expect that's not unusual business practice, especially since many people check in under other people's card numbers (weddings, get-togethers, etc.) It's not the habit of hotels to track people down, and Motel 6 least of all.

So yeah, people get arrested more at Motel 6 cause Motel 6 is all that many illegal immigrants can afford. Doesn't mean they're turning over names to the Government every night though.
 
2017-09-14 03:07:36 AM  

kb7rky: Fark Motel 6. Those bastards don't want your farking business. I'll never stay with them again.

My family stayed at one in Billing, MT, several years ago, and we were told that we should have gone somewhere else, because there were "too many" people in our group.

"Had we known there were five people in your group, we wouldn't have accepted your reservation."

Gee...if only they had been notified NO LESS THAN THREE TIMES about the size of our party...once when I made the reservation online, once when we were ALL STANDING in the lobby paying for our room, and once when we came down to complain about the toilet being backed up. But, yeah..."if they had known..."

What was really stupid about that was the fact that my family had stayed at that particular Motel 6 just a few years prior without a problem.

Assholes.


Cheap bastard. Get two rooms. Like 30 bucks.
 
2017-09-14 03:09:05 AM  

Confabulat: fnordfocus: So US hotels don't generally record ID info beyond verifying that your name matches your credit card and the reservation.

How the fark is ICE going to screen everyone and verify their immigration status based on that?

Or is anyone named José Garcia going to get a late night visit, even if they're just a tourist or a citizen?

Exactly why I call bullshiat on this. I've worked the overnight shift in hotels in Florida for years, and first off, we'd never bother even matching the name with the credit card. If the card worked, you could be Mickey Mouse as far as we cared. I expect that's not unusual business practice, especially since many people check in under other people's card numbers (weddings, get-togethers, etc.) It's not the habit of hotels to track people down, and Motel 6 least of all.

So yeah, people get arrested more at Motel 6 cause Motel 6 is all that many illegal immigrants can afford. Doesn't mean they're turning over names to the Government every night though.


...except that they said they were.
 
2017-09-14 03:17:36 AM  

BumpInTheNight: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

That is exactly the point I was looking to drive home.  Personally I have a "Not the US" as a travel criteria for a couple years,  this would further let me pinpoint places I'd refuse to patron.


https://giphy.com/search/flipping-the-bird
Pick one. Or two!
America is a fine country, and I for one look forward to not seeing you here. Cheers
 
2017-09-14 03:52:58 AM  

Somacandra: FTFA: Like the current situation at the Phoenix location, guests were not notified their information would be shared.

Its pretty shiatty to not tell your customers they are going to have personal data sent to the poilice. People have a right to know when their personal information is going to be accessed by a third party as a matter of course during a business transaction.


Unfortunately, they only have a right in a few states. There is no Federal right to privacy, only statutory protection in a few limited circumstances.

Those laudable human rights we love to remind ourselves that we're defending really crash on the shoals of increasingly Orwellian US law.
 
2017-09-14 05:29:44 AM  

BumpInTheNight: Sid_6.7: I hope you don't mind me asking:

Where in Canada would you recommend I go for some sort of authentic experience?

I've been to Toronto. It seemed extremely sterile. Too clean. Like a subarctic version of the city from The Matrix (I know Toronto isn't actually in a subarctic zone, but it was March, and I'm from Virginia.).

Oh man yah Toronto is america-wannabe-land, I guess it largely depends on what you're after:  Formal & stuffy tourist stuff well Ottawa is the place, want some genuine french-canadian culture then that'd be Montreal (which has a lot of sweet historic stuff too).  Want to be on the west coast without all the americans?  Vancouver for sure.  Feel like eating a lot of fish?  Somewhere in the east coast.

Want to be in America but with a barely different canadian spin?  Somewhere in Alberta.


If you are looking for that Canadian accent as seen in Canadian Bacon, then check out Saskatchewan or PEI.
 
2017-09-14 05:34:26 AM  

edmo: There's all kinds of places you can identify illegals in the Phoenix area. Why ICE has such a hard time finding them is beyond me.

Putting your business front and center into a big political deals a sure way to lose business. I wonder what else they on the lookout for?


Wondered the same thing.

Motel 6 where I come from always had this reputation as the sleazy hotel prostitutes frequent. I suspect they don't turn them in as would eat into their core business: a cheap place to have sex.
 
2017-09-14 05:41:49 AM  

lack of warmth: FormlessOne: So, I wonder how Motel 6 patrons feel about a class action lawsuit alleging privacy violations...

I wonder if you read the part where it's completely legal for them to share your sign-in info with police.  A little hard to sue over a legal action.  Granted if they're sharing credit card information, that would be a different problem, and I say sue on.


It's legal as in "not criminal" for them to do it.  That doesn't mean they can't be sued for it.

I don't think it's a settled area of privacy law, especially if the contract doesn't include a "we may share your personal details with anyone of our choosing" clause.
 
2017-09-14 05:52:07 AM  

winedrinkingman: During the Obama, or even the Bush Administration, when an immigrant had to bend over backwards, and practically join MS19 and be suspected of a couple of murders, to get an ICE warrant, this wouldn't bother me as much.  It would still be creepy, but it would at least be understandable.  Now that we are going after former J1s who overstayed their visas, because they thought they were going to eventually get married to their American boyfriend who was just using them, and guys who have been here most of their life, and can't even remember living in another country, who have jobs and careers and never been in trouble with the law, now that we are going after those people, and seeing them as threats to America (all while Russian attorneys who try to influence our elections are seen as nice guys), it is disgusting on a level that can not be described.  Illegal immigration is a minor paperwork crime, in most cases.  It should be handled with a small fine, if appropriate, with the perpetrator given the chance to fix their status and stay in the country, provided they keep their nose clean, pay taxes, and don't commit acts of espionage against America.  I would rather keep the illegals, and deport most of Trump's supporters.


Interesting points but have to disagree.  Illegal immigration should not be supported for two reasons:
1. Not fair to those who follow the process. Illegal immigration amounts to the worst kind of line jumping and why a large amount of immigrants don't support it.
2. Reduces the US from benefiting from the best immigrants and helping those immigrants in the most need as slots are illegally taken.

I am open to looking into a statue of limitations as i do agree if we don't enforce the laws then it can be cruel and unusual years later after they have had a chance to establish themselves.  However, I think we should also be more diligent tracking immigrants and ensuring illegals don't become established.
 
2017-09-14 06:04:53 AM  

spongeboob: Sean VasDeferens: spongeboob: Aren't most Motels owned by immigrants these days.
Patels in particular.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/1999/07/04/magazine/a-patel-motel-cartel.h t ml

And aren't at least some of them Trump fans
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/business/trump-organization-ame r ican-idea-hotel-chain.html

IDK maybe they are pissed that they can't bring the rest of their family over and these Mexicans sneak over.

What do immigrants have to do with this?

I would think immigrants would be more empathatic,

And there are a half million illegal immigrants from India in America
http://m.hindustantimes.com/world-news/donald-trump-hardens-immigratio​n-rules-3-lakh-indian-americans-to-be-affected/story-L1YaYVWOo1ZvWJG97​oNmHJ.html
But no one ever talks about them or the 50,000 Irish illegal immigrants
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/03/16/us/white-irish​-undocumented-trnd/index.html

Something tells me motel six is passing only Mexican names to ICE.


My anecdotal experience is legal immigrants typically are not supportive of illegal immigrants.  Primary reason is they feels illegals jumped the line.

Basically, if I spent the 6 years and 100s of hours of effort to get visas and become a citizen, then no I do not support someone who just ignores the rules and gets mostly the same benefits.
 
2017-09-14 07:34:04 AM  
From TFA: "UPDATE (10:32 PM): Motel 6 confirms that guest lists were shared with ICE and says the practice has now been discontinued. "

Good, you farking nazis.
 
2017-09-14 07:39:18 AM  
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2017-09-14 07:50:12 AM  

MythDragon: Walker: Snitches get stitches.

Rats get bats.


Platypus get a bus.

An I doing this right?
 
2017-09-14 07:53:17 AM  
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2017-09-14 07:58:34 AM  

Confabulat: fnordfocus: So US hotels don't generally record ID info beyond verifying that your name matches your credit card and the reservation.

How the fark is ICE going to screen everyone and verify their immigration status based on that?

Or is anyone named José Garcia going to get a late night visit, even if they're just a tourist or a citizen?

Exactly why I call bullshiat on this. I've worked the overnight shift in hotels in Florida for years, and first off, we'd never bother even matching the name with the credit card. If the card worked, you could be Mickey Mouse as far as we cared. I expect that's not unusual business practice, especially since many people check in under other people's card numbers (weddings, get-togethers, etc.) It's not the habit of hotels to track people down, and Motel 6 least of all.

So yeah, people get arrested more at Motel 6 cause Motel 6 is all that many illegal immigrants can afford. Doesn't mean they're turning over names to the Government every night though.


Uhhh, they admitted they do it and corporate has stepped in and said they'll end the practice.

So you're calling bull on something they've admitted to doing and promised they'll stop?
 
2017-09-14 07:59:25 AM  
So the people who go to Motel 6 have to follow the law? Sick.
 
2017-09-14 08:07:44 AM  

killwhitey: winedrinkingman: During the Obama, or even the Bush Administration, when an immigrant had to bend over backwards, and practically join MS19 and be suspected of a couple of murders, to get an ICE warrant, this wouldn't bother me as much.  It would still be creepy, but it would at least be understandable.  Now that we are going after former J1s who overstayed their visas, because they thought they were going to eventually get married to their American boyfriend who was just using them, and guys who have been here most of their life, and can't even remember living in another country, who have jobs and careers and never been in trouble with the law, now that we are going after those people, and seeing them as threats to America (all while Russian attorneys who try to influence our elections are seen as nice guys), it is disgusting on a level that can not be described.  Illegal immigration is a minor paperwork crime, in most cases.  It should be handled with a small fine, if appropriate, with the perpetrator given the chance to fix their status and stay in the country, provided they keep their nose clean, pay taxes, and don't commit acts of espionage against America.  I would rather keep the illegals, and deport most of Trump's supporters.

Interesting points but have to disagree.  Illegal immigration should not be supported for two reasons:
1. Not fair to those who follow the process. Illegal immigration amounts to the worst kind of line jumping and why a large amount of immigrants don't support it.
2. Reduces the US from benefiting from the best immigrants and helping those immigrants in the most need as slots are illegally taken.

I am open to looking into a statue of limitations as i do agree if we don't enforce the laws then it can be cruel and unusual years later after they have had a chance to establish themselves.  However, I think we should also be more diligent tracking immigrants and ensuring illegals don't become established.


I would agree if our current immigration system wasn't a convoluted mess.  Plus if we're only getting "the best" nobody is going to be doing the jobs migrant workers are doing.  Already this year there are farms that their crops just had to rot because nobody was willing to do it.  Think Mr. Or Ms. Masters of engineering are going to be doing that work?
 
2017-09-14 08:07:58 AM  

DarkVader: lack of warmth: FormlessOne: So, I wonder how Motel 6 patrons feel about a class action lawsuit alleging privacy violations...

I wonder if you read the part where it's completely legal for them to share your sign-in info with police.  A little hard to sue over a legal action.  Granted if they're sharing credit card information, that would be a different problem, and I say sue on.

It's legal as in "not criminal" for them to do it.  That doesn't mean they can't be sued for it.

I don't think it's a settled area of privacy law, especially if the contract doesn't include a "we may share your personal details with anyone of our choosing" clause.


You act like this is new.  Police asking for sign-in info isn't new.  Otherwise there wouldn't already be precedent involving the supreme court.  If you read the lower part, the court decided the police can't force the hotel to give over the info, yet it's okay if the hotel provides it.  I'm sure a warrant can force the hotel to turn over the info, but that would mean the police had someone specific they were looking for, possibly to prove they were in the area of a crime.  Being this has been covered in criminal court, it's not so grey, and civil court would have a hard time punishing a legal action.
 
2017-09-14 08:16:44 AM  

BumpInTheNight: r


Man, I thought Alberta was Canada's Texas.

That would have a pretty specific flavor, I would think!
 
2017-09-14 08:52:21 AM  

BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.


That's it, I'm never staying at a Motel 6 still.
 
2017-09-14 09:38:37 AM  

EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.


Hell, I'm against illegal immigration but that is a real wtf. Names can be very common and you can get perfectly innocent people late night visits from guys with guns.  We need sane immigration policy's and the ability to kick out and keep out those who misbehave. Not this stupid sh*t.
 
2017-09-14 09:57:49 AM  

fnordfocus: So US hotels don't generally record ID info beyond verifying that your name matches your credit card and the reservation.

How the fark is ICE going to screen everyone and verify their immigration status based on that?

Or is anyone named José Garcia going to get a late night visit, even if they're just a tourist or a citizen?


TFA says the police check for people with warrants. Apparently some of those warrants involve immigration cases, but that means they've already encountered ICE.
 
2017-09-14 10:26:38 AM  

Sid_6.7: BumpInTheNight: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

That is exactly the point I was looking to drive home.  Personally I have a "Not the US" as a travel criteria for a couple years,  this would further let me pinpoint places I'd refuse to patron.

I hope you don't mind me asking:

Where in Canada would you recommend I go for some sort of authentic experience?

I've been to Toronto. It seemed extremely sterile. Too clean. Like a subarctic version of the city from The Matrix (I know Toronto isn't actually in a subarctic zone, but it was March, and I'm from Virginia.).


I love Toronto, used to go every year.  One time we were at a quick-e-mart and saw a car drive up to the dumpster and throw a purse into it.  We checked it out, turned out to be a stolen purse and went inside and asked them to call the police.  The cop's name tag said, "A. Morissette".  I got to meet the Alanis cop (who was cool and tolerant when I asked about her name) and help solve a crime.  I love the vibe in Canada.  I feel much safer there than I do here.  Here, I wouldn't have called the cops.  They probably would have tased us and arrested us for the crime.

/csb
 
2017-09-14 11:03:32 AM  

Prince George: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.

Hell, I'm against illegal immigration but that is a real wtf. Names can be very common and you can get perfectly innocent people late night visits from guys with guns.  We need sane immigration policy's and the ability to kick out and keep out those who misbehave. Not this stupid sh*t.


Exactly.

Pedro Martinez from Los Angeles is wanted by ICE. Pedro Martinez from Los Angeles s staying at Motel 6. So they roust Pedro Martinez, and it turns out that he's a totally different Pedro Martinez, because he has the same name as hundreds of other people who live in Los Angeles. This is not only a rather blunt instrument to use, but its effects fall disproportionately on people with Hispanic names. If it's the right guy, sure, go get 'im -- see above regarding line-jumpers -- but a shared name is not a valid way to decide this. Get a ouija board and ask Ted Kennedy about that.
 
2017-09-14 11:48:51 AM  

Munden: I'm Tom Bodett for Motel 6, We'll lead the ICE on to you.


CSB: I saw a live taping of "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me" with Tom Bodett on the panel, a few years ago.  Fun and interesting guy.
 
2017-09-14 12:23:12 PM  

shroom: Munden: I'm Tom Bodett for Motel 6, We'll lead the ICE on to you.

CSB: I saw a live taping of "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me" with Tom Bodett on the panel, a few years ago.  Fun and interesting guy.


Same here, saw Wait Wait with Tom Bodett in 2015 or 2016 at the Mann Center in Philadelphia
 
2017-09-14 12:30:10 PM  

davidphogan: EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.


You also lose people who think it's creepy to be giving lists of your customers to law enforcement. Presuming your customers are all criminals should be insulting to all customers.

Plus it definitely makes me wonder who you're catering to if you're making that assumption.


That is actually an old, old practice.  Managers like to be on the good side and get good service if the time comes.  It may be creepy but not illegal (as far as I know).  You may find that many hotels of all corporate parents have that practice.
 
2017-09-14 02:07:02 PM  

thorpe: [img.fark.net image 790x593]


Good Halloween/cosplay idea
 
2017-09-14 02:50:50 PM  

EvilEgg: BumpInTheNight: Sounds like a great way to lose business.  Keep making america great again, you assholes.

You lose not only the undocumented, you will lose others that care about the issue.


I've been saying the same thing about neighborhood watches for decades.
 
2017-09-14 11:46:52 PM  

Snort: You may find that many hotels of all corporate parents have that practice.


I worked with hotels in an IT role for about 7 years, and most of the reputable chains did not have the practice.
 
2017-09-15 08:55:07 AM  

davidphogan: Snort: You may find that many hotels of all corporate parents have that practice.

I worked with hotels in an IT role for about 7 years, and most of the reputable chains did not have the practice.


From my experience, its a local practice of a manager giving reports to the police where the hotel it located.  YMMV
 
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