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(The Virginian-Pilot)   Copier company forced former employee into a pagan ritual to exorcise demons from office, lawsuit says   ( pilotonline.com) divider line
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2017-09-14 12:56:50 AM  
this story has some holes in it.
 
2017-09-14 01:18:52 AM  

Weaver95: this story has some holes in it.


But I heard that anything involving demons is by defnition un-holey.
 
2017-09-14 01:25:38 AM  
I'm even more confused as I've realized, by her description, you have the Native American ritual smudging with Sage. Demons being 'exercised' seems kind of Catholic-y and yet it was a "Pagan Ceremony"?!? I wonder if she will ever pick a direction and go that way?
 
2017-09-14 01:26:22 AM  
Ceremony = Ritual  ^
 
2017-09-14 01:37:46 AM  

OK So Amuse Me: I'm even more confused as I've realized, by her description, you have the Native American ritual smudging with Sage. Demons being 'exercised' seems kind of Catholic-y and yet it was a "Pagan Ceremony"?!? I wonder if she will ever pick a direction and go that way?


that's not how any of this works.
 
2017-09-14 02:04:30 AM  

Weaver95: OK So Amuse Me: I'm even more confused as I've realized, by her description, you have the Native American ritual smudging with Sage. Demons being 'exercised' seems kind of Catholic-y and yet it was a "Pagan Ceremony"?!? I wonder if she will ever pick a direction and go that way?

that's not how any of this works.


THAT'S why I'm confused! Everything seems so muddled, maybe it's the way the writer presented it. There were a couple of times I wasn't quite sure who exactly the writer was referring to with the generous use of "they". Maybe that's how the offended woman explained it? Fark it, I'm just going to bed, I'll think tomorrow.
 
2017-09-14 02:12:30 AM  

Resident Muslim: OK So Amuse Me: From what I can gather from TFA she was 'present' when someone else burned sage so, totes "FORCED TO PARTICIPATE". From what I've learned all my life and from my Native American Studies class Native Americans don't really have 'issues' burning Sage as they farking invented burning Sage in rituals. Color me cornfuzzled.

Seriously speaking, though, if that's the case, she might actually have been offended and took action based on that.

/DNRTA


Yep, that was probably just a smudge over the line for her.  And "Pagan" ritual?  Are we sure that the harassing subordinate didn't just bungle Piegan?

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Frowns on all these shenanigans.
 
2017-09-14 02:22:38 AM  
Like a lot of other people, I'm wondering what's with the Wiccan twine? Is there Native American twine, too? Does every culture that uses smudging have their own twine, or do some of them share?

Company I used to work for, they'd send out things in the weekly notice/paperwork packet like reasons you're happy to be a Christian, etc. I don't know about pagans, but I know one of my fellow store managers was Jewish; always wondered how she felt about that stuff.

All told, though, even if any of this happened, it wasn't "copier company", it was some dicks at the office -- not an uncommon thing. Given the prevalence of such dicks, something resembling what she claims (minus the weird bit about the string) very well might have happened. The court case will be interesting.
 
2017-09-14 02:25:46 AM  

Worldwalker: Like a lot of other people, I'm wondering what's with the Wiccan twine? Is there Native American twine, too? Does every culture that uses smudging have their own twine, or do some of them share?


I'm told Catholics are into the Holy Twine-ity.
 
2017-09-14 02:27:34 AM  

amfv: Many years ago I worked in an office with a window overlooking an interior atrium. On the other side of the atrium were similar offices. As it so happens it afforded me an excellent view of another company's copier room.

 One day I'm on the phone I turn around glancing out the window I see three women early in their 20s dancing and gyrating around the copier in  some ritual meant to free up a paper jam or something.

I was absolutely entranced by the secret ritual I was witnessing. I will never know if they got their copiesbecause after a moment they noticed me and scattered laughing all the while.

Wait. What were we talking about?


The fact you should stop taking LSD at work?
 
2017-09-14 02:31:23 AM  

Katolu: Paging Weaver95.  Smack this shiat down


Shhssh. Let him sleep. He's currently off the clock.

Gotta sell that sweet sweet dark advertising somehow.
 
2017-09-14 02:31:46 AM  

Worldwalker: I don't know about pagans, but I know one of my fellow store managers was Jewish; always wondered how she felt about that stuff.


meh.  most pagans just shrug and move on with life.  its almost always not worth the effort to confront the over zealous christian fanatics.

but there are times when the christianity gets a bit TOO deep and we gotta do some cleaning.
 
2017-09-14 02:32:17 AM  

RandomInternetComment: Katolu: Paging Weaver95.  Smack this shiat down

Shhssh. Let him sleep. He's currently off the clock.

Gotta sell that sweet sweet dark advertising somehow.


too late.  the sun went down, which means I wake up.
 
2017-09-14 02:32:23 AM  
*f ark advertising.
 
2017-09-14 02:35:41 AM  

Weaver95: RandomInternetComment: Katolu: Paging Weaver95.  Smack this shiat down

Shhssh. Let him sleep. He's currently off the clock.

Gotta sell that sweet sweet dark advertising somehow.

too late.  the sun went down, which means I wake up.


Dude I'm in Orlando and suffering consequences from Irma so pretty much stuck at home and been farking for several days. Don't know if my company is still is business anymore. That's beyond stressful to say the least.

You either gotta be a disabled insomniac or multiple people log into your account.
 
2017-09-14 02:54:20 AM  

Weaver95: RandomInternetComment: Katolu: Paging Weaver95.  Smack this shiat down

Shhssh. Let him sleep. He's currently off the clock.

Gotta sell that sweet sweet dark advertising somehow.

too late.  the sun went down, which means I wake up.


Sun goes up, pants go up.

Sun goes down, pants go down.

/can't explain that
 
2017-09-14 02:56:53 AM  

RandomInternetComment: You either gotta be a disabled insomniac or multiple people log into your account.


i've actually cut back in the past couple of years.  I used to be a lot more active.
 
2017-09-14 02:57:07 AM  

The Soupman Cumeth: Weaver95: RandomInternetComment: Katolu: Paging Weaver95.  Smack this shiat down

Shhssh. Let him sleep. He's currently off the clock.

Gotta sell that sweet sweet dark advertising somehow.

too late.  the sun went down, which means I wake up.

Sun goes up, pants go up.

Sun goes down, pants go down.

/can't explain that


The fact bill O was taken down along with Milo

There's hope. Some evil men in this new environment can be taken down.
 
2017-09-14 03:09:01 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: Worldwalker: Like a lot of other people, I'm wondering what's with the Wiccan twine? Is there Native American twine, too? Does every culture that uses smudging have their own twine, or do some of them share?

I'm told Catholics are into the Holy Twine-ity.


That pun was bad and you should feel bad...

/I lol'd though.
// Cause I like bad puns
/// the father the son and the holy slashie..
 
2017-09-14 04:23:35 AM  

amfv: Many years ago I worked in an office with a window overlooking an interior atrium. On the other side of the atrium were similar offices. As it so happens it afforded me an excellent view of another company's copier room.

 One day I'm on the phone I turn around glancing out the window I see three women early in their 20s dancing and gyrating around the copier in  some ritual meant to free up a paper jam or something.

I was absolutely entranced by the secret ritual I was witnessing. I will never know if they got their copiesbecause after a moment they noticed me and scattered laughing all the while.

Wait. What were we talking about?


Anyone who's ever worked in corporate in any position will understand that. I am dying laughing over here, and I'm picturing my 20-something lawyers that work with me doing that cause they've been through college and they make more money than me.
 
2017-09-14 06:52:31 AM  

Vampire Lake: Amazon doesn't have any results for 'Wiccan twine.'

I am really curious about this twine now. What if the twine I've been using to hold up my climing plants is secretly wiccan?!?


Just check to see if it flouts.
 
2017-09-14 06:54:11 AM  

big pig peaches: Vampire Lake: Amazon doesn't have any results for 'Wiccan twine.'

I am really curious about this twine now. What if the twine I've been using to hold up my climing plants is secretly wiccan?!?

Just check to see if it flouts.


Floats. Dammit
 
2017-09-14 08:08:47 AM  

ojay: The copier guy always removes the 'Suave' post-it I put under the Ricoh emblem.


That's because its one of the things that Ricoh requests we do if we see that when our on a service call.  I heard that request on the first day of SO many training sessions.

\Not kidding
\\I think its funny as hell
\\\I don't have a problem with calling the copier Bob Marley though.
 
2017-09-14 08:09:52 AM  
OUT on a service call.  Stupid autocorrect is stupid.
 
2017-09-14 08:14:59 AM  

mudpants: Is this why the ink/toner is so expensive?  Always thought it must have been made from virgins blood.


Actually its 40 year old  hippy virgins blood.  Much harder to find.
 
2017-09-14 09:47:53 AM  
Wiccan twine is knot magick.
 
2017-09-14 12:05:21 PM  
I think burning sage would be a health violation; it can possibly cause miscarriage, etc.
 
2017-09-14 02:51:49 PM  
And the managers gets three stars as an ignorant idiot, as well as a PoS. For one, "exorcising demons' is a Christian thing. For another, smudging?  In an office? Is this *intended* to set off the fire alarms, and maybe the sprinklers?

And I love how this maroon things Native Americans are ALL into smudging. Yep. Esquimos and those in the far north are into it... and, like an idiot textbook I had once, which noted that All Native Americans venerated tobacco, including those folks who'd never seen it.

This guy really is Dilbert's boss.
 
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