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(NYPost)   You know how good the Indians have been the past month? Well, they're doing all this without some of their best players...and they're about to come back. Tag is for the fans of any other AL team   ( nypost.com) divider line
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2017-09-13 02:32:57 AM  
I don't follow baseball nearly close to as much as I used to but it seems like they've got everything coming together at the right time.
 
2017-09-13 03:00:50 AM  
It would be like Rafael Nadal suddenly being unable to get out of the first round of any tournament.

Wait, so the Dodgers stopped taking PEDs?
 
2017-09-13 03:05:34 AM  
ask Jobu to come and seal the deal
 
2017-09-13 04:12:55 AM  
STFU subby!

We sucked yesterday, we suck today, and we'll suck tomorrow. I expect in each game from here on out to have the little known mercy rule of 100-0 be enacted after the Tribe strikes out on nine pitches in the first inning. We are not "peaking at the right time" because we've already stupidly used up all of our wins.

Paraphrasing the words of a great man: "If you don't have any dreams you'll never be disappointed."

Get it straight, subby.
 
2017-09-13 05:10:23 AM  
The "right time" is three weeks from now.

Long win streaks are great and all, as long as you don't burn out your team trying to keep them alive. Once this streak ends and that adrenaline rush goes away, they're going to be exhausted. If they don't want their win streak to be what their fans hang their hats on when they talk about 2017, they're going to need ample recovery time to put it behind them and regroup for the playoffs.
 
2017-09-13 05:50:02 AM  

orangehat: I don't follow baseball nearly close to as much as I used to but it seems like they've got everything coming together at the right time.


Doesn't matter. They'll still choke at some point in the postseason.

/Tribe fan
 
2017-09-13 06:10:55 AM  

Wave Of Anal Fury: orangehat: I don't follow baseball nearly close to as much as I used to but it seems like they've got everything coming together at the right time.

Doesn't matter. They'll still choke at some point in the postseason.

/Tribe fan


Were you at the game the other night? I think I saw you on TV:

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2017-09-13 06:36:24 AM  
Um, if all the "best" players got injured and the team started doing better, that's the Ewing effect.  So, the real takeaway here is that a last-season collapse is imminent.
 
2017-09-13 06:45:18 AM  
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2017-09-13 06:53:42 AM  
I live in New England so please, anybody but the Red Sox
 
2017-09-13 07:33:58 AM  
Go Tribe and all, but how is that any kind of guarantee that they will be great in October? They did not run away with the division at the beginning of the year, when they had those players. It's true, right now they are crushing everybody --- not only winning every game, but winning most of them by a giant margin. Taking out some of those guys who have been starting may not be the best thing to do. They have already surpassed the Patriots, by taking 18-0 to 19-0, but winning in October does not always have a correlation of 1.0 with winning in late-August / early-September.
 
2017-09-13 07:57:40 AM  

natural316: I live in New England so please, anybody but the Red Sox


It'll be a cubs/tribe rematch.  With similar results as last time.

Not sure of that's better than red sox though.
 
2017-09-13 08:09:09 AM  

Hoopy Frood: The "right time" is three weeks from now.

Long win streaks are great and all, as long as you don't burn out your team trying to keep them alive. Once this streak ends and that adrenaline rush goes away, they're going to be exhausted. If they don't want their win streak to be what their fans hang their hats on when they talk about 2017, they're going to need ample recovery time to put it behind them and regroup for the playoffs.


In most sports I'd agree, but not baseball. I'd much rather the team be doing this and trying to wrap up the #1 seed than not. And I really don't think fatigue is as big an issue in baseball. Individuals have hit rough patches along the streak, but it was usually just one or two players at any given time.

And adrenaline? Try to tell this guy about that:
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2017-09-13 08:24:25 AM  

Hoopy Frood: The "right time" is three weeks from now.

Long win streaks are great and all, as long as you don't burn out your team trying to keep them alive. Once this streak ends and that adrenaline rush goes away, they're going to be exhausted. If they don't want their win streak to be what their fans hang their hats on when they talk about 2017, they're going to need ample recovery time to put it behind them and regroup for the playoffs.


I get what you're saying, but the thing about this streak is that it mostly seems organic.  Guys aren't pushing and biting their nails hoping to set a new record.  The wins aren't dire, since they were already 8 games up on the Twins when the streak started.  Seems as though they're mostly focused on clinching the division (magic number at 5 now).  Then they can get guys like Kipnis, Miller, Salazar, and hopefully Brantley some reps in to get them right before the playoffs.  Take it from the Indians clubhouse reporter:

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2017-09-13 08:27:45 AM  

Hoopy Frood: The "right time" is three weeks from now.

Long win streaks are great and all, as long as you don't burn out your team trying to keep them alive. Once this streak ends and that adrenaline rush goes away, they're going to be exhausted. If they don't want their win streak to be what their fans hang their hats on when they talk about 2017, they're going to need ample recovery time to put it behind them and regroup for the playoffs.


even though the main guys have been playing just about every day ramirez was out a few days 'injured'), they still have been getting a lot of rest.  every time they are up even 4 or 5 runs in the middle innings tito has been pulling guys and putting in the september call ups.  so out of 20 games, most everyone has probably had the equivalent of 5 games off
 
2017-09-13 08:40:43 AM  

Great_Milenko: natural316: I live in New England so please, anybody but the Red Sox

It'll be a cubs/tribe rematch.  With similar results as last time.

Not sure of that's better than red sox though.


as a Cubs fan I'd of course love to see another title run, but with the way this year has gone overall I'm expecting, and will be content with, them making the playoffs but not much else. and if that is the case, it would be awesome to see the Indians win at all, given what they've done the last 2 years and especially the last 20 games.
 
2017-09-13 08:41:41 AM  

virulent_loser: Great_Milenko: natural316: I live in New England so please, anybody but the Red Sox

It'll be a cubs/tribe rematch.  With similar results as last time.

Not sure of that's better than red sox though.

as a Cubs fan I'd of course love to see another title run, but with the way this year has gone overall I'm expecting, and will be content with, them making the playoffs but not much else. and if that is the case, it would be awesome to see the Indians win at all, given what they've done the last 2 years and especially the last 20 games.


...win IT all. d'oh.
 
2017-09-13 08:48:41 AM  
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2017-09-13 09:00:56 AM  

virulent_loser: Great_Milenko: natural316: I live in New England so please, anybody but the Red Sox

It'll be a cubs/tribe rematch.  With similar results as last time.

Not sure of that's better than red sox though.

as a Cubs fan I'd of course love to see another title run, but with the way this year has gone overall I'm expecting, and will be content with, them making the playoffs but not much else. and if that is the case, it would be awesome to see the Indians win at all, given what they've done the last 2 years and especially the last 20 games.


Nats-Indians, Nats in 6

/pure speculation
//fark the dodgers
///three slashies you're out
 
2017-09-13 09:02:28 AM  
they blew a 3-1 lead and lost game 7 at home. I don't give a single shiat what the Indians have done until they lift the trophy
 
2017-09-13 09:39:16 AM  

ElwoodCuse: they blew a 3-1 lead and lost game 7 at home. I don't give a single shiat what the Indians have done until they lift the trophy


sorta sounds like you do care.
 
2017-09-13 09:59:17 AM  

ElwoodCuse: they blew a 3-1 lead and lost game 7 at home. I don't give a single shiat what the Indians have done until they lift the trophy


Considering they did that with two healthy starting pitchers, I'd say it was a pretty impressive run to come that close.  Disappointing they couldn't close it out, but certainly nothing to get pissy about.

It's kind of like the 2015 NBA Finals where Kyrie and Love were hurt and J.R. Smith went absolute zero cold.  The fact that series went six games based on LeBron and Matt Frigging Delladedova was impressive, if ultimately unsatisfying.
 
2017-09-13 10:48:28 AM  
The streak is impressive, of course, but what's really important is that the Indians, who were 6.5 games behind the Astros (and 1.5 behind the Red Sox) for the best record in the AL less than three weeks ago, are now 1.5 games up on Houston. That could be huge, since the wild card winner will probably only have their best starter available for one game in a five game series.
 
2017-09-13 10:55:16 AM  

ElwoodCuse: they blew a 3-1 lead and lost game 7 at home. I don't give a single shiat what the Indians have done until they lift the trophy


I still think that rain delay in game 7 farked them. I was pulling for the Tribe.
 
2017-09-13 11:20:07 AM  
To be fair, they have played the Tigers 6 times in this streak, 7 after tonight. So they really only needed to play well 13 of 20 games.
 
2017-09-13 11:25:47 AM  
I'm a White Sox fan. They don't scare me. We want to lose.
 
2017-09-13 11:34:50 AM  

Freakin Rican: [img.fark.net image 600x338]


Come on Tribe, keep peeling sections

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2017-09-13 12:16:37 PM  

Hoopy Frood: The "right time" is three weeks from now.

Long win streaks are great and all, as long as you don't burn out your team trying to keep them alive. Once this streak ends and that adrenaline rush goes away, they're going to be exhausted. If they don't want their win streak to be what their fans hang their hats on when they talk about 2017, they're going to need ample recovery time to put it behind them and regroup for the playoffs.


Likewise, part of the cause of the Dodgers' losing streak was management sitting down players and treating every minor scrape like a heart attack.  That is, they were (and still are) so far ahead that giving everybody a rest was a good idea.  Granted, they obviously overdid it, combined with a bunch of bad luck, but the best time to go cold was a month before the playoffs.

Also, baseball is a funny game in the way that the best team loses more often than you would think.  That is, the outcome of a World Series between a mediocre team and a great team is much less certain than, say, a Super Bowl between a mediocre team and a great team, even though it's seven games versus one (which should average out things).
 
2017-09-13 01:01:30 PM  

Geotpf: Hoopy Frood: The "right time" is three weeks from now.

Long win streaks are great and all, as long as you don't burn out your team trying to keep them alive. Once this streak ends and that adrenaline rush goes away, they're going to be exhausted. If they don't want their win streak to be what their fans hang their hats on when they talk about 2017, they're going to need ample recovery time to put it behind them and regroup for the playoffs.

Likewise, part of the cause of the Dodgers' losing streak was management sitting down players and treating every minor scrape like a heart attack.  That is, they were (and still are) so far ahead that giving everybody a rest was a good idea.  Granted, they obviously overdid it, combined with a bunch of bad luck, but the best time to go cold was a month before the playoffs.

Also, baseball is a funny game in the way that the best team loses more often than you would think.  That is, the outcome of a World Series between a mediocre team and a great team is much less certain than, say, a Super Bowl between a mediocre team and a great team, even though it's seven games versus one (which should average out things).


Yep. Every team wins 1/3 of their games. Every team loses 1/3 of their games. The difference is what you do with the remaining 1/3
 
2017-09-13 01:14:12 PM  
Red Sox were in the (relatively) same position last year then ran out of gas against the Indians. Hoping for a better October.
/Go Sox/
//Suck it, haters
///Hatriots too
 
2017-09-13 01:25:41 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: Hoopy Frood: The "right time" is three weeks from now.

Long win streaks are great and all, as long as you don't burn out your team trying to keep them alive. Once this streak ends and that adrenaline rush goes away, they're going to be exhausted. If they don't want their win streak to be what their fans hang their hats on when they talk about 2017, they're going to need ample recovery time to put it behind them and regroup for the playoffs.

even though the main guys have been playing just about every day ramirez was out a few days 'injured'), they still have been getting a lot of rest.  every time they are up even 4 or 5 runs in the middle innings tito has been pulling guys and putting in the september call ups.  so out of 20 games, most everyone has probably had the equivalent of 5 games off


I'd be more concerned about mental exhaustion than physical rest. There isn't daily stress and tension about whether Houston's going to win tonight, they get to sit back and cruise. Nobody's been high-strung for two weeks trying to not be the guy responsible for ending a streak.

But as for the physical aspect, did they really need nine from Kluber last night when they're sitting on a double-digit division lead? Do you make a risky play near the wall or send a runner for a possible collision at the plate when you don't need a win tonight?
 
2017-09-13 01:29:49 PM  

The_Y2P_Problem: ElwoodCuse: they blew a 3-1 lead and lost game 7 at home. I don't give a single shiat what the Indians have done until they lift the trophy

Considering they did that with two healthy starting pitchers, I'd say it was a pretty impressive run to come that close.  Disappointing they couldn't close it out, but certainly nothing to get pissy about.

It's kind of like the 2015 NBA Finals where Kyrie and Love were hurt and J.R. Smith went absolute zero cold.  The fact that series went six games based on LeBron and Matt Frigging Delladedova was impressive, if ultimately unsatisfying.


All you need in the postseason is two starting pitchers.

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2017-09-13 01:33:44 PM  

Hoopy Frood: Dead for Tax Reasons: Hoopy Frood: The "right time" is three weeks from now.

Long win streaks are great and all, as long as you don't burn out your team trying to keep them alive. Once this streak ends and that adrenaline rush goes away, they're going to be exhausted. If they don't want their win streak to be what their fans hang their hats on when they talk about 2017, they're going to need ample recovery time to put it behind them and regroup for the playoffs.

even though the main guys have been playing just about every day ramirez was out a few days 'injured'), they still have been getting a lot of rest.  every time they are up even 4 or 5 runs in the middle innings tito has been pulling guys and putting in the september call ups.  so out of 20 games, most everyone has probably had the equivalent of 5 games off

I'd be more concerned about mental exhaustion than physical rest. There isn't daily stress and tension about whether Houston's going to win tonight, they get to sit back and cruise. Nobody's been high-strung for two weeks trying to not be the guy responsible for ending a streak.

But as for the physical aspect, did they really need nine from Kluber last night when they're sitting on a double-digit division lead? Do you make a risky play near the wall or send a runner for a possible collision at the plate when you don't need a win tonight?


i think i've watched at least part of all the games, and those guys are just out there having fun.  there haven't been too many close or stressful games, but even when it was, they've all been joking and going about it the same way they did 3 months ago.  if anything they are looser now

zimmer's injury the other day got me worried, thinking that the injury bug from last year was coming back
 
2017-09-13 01:52:49 PM  
I missed it but a coworker has the game on. Not sure if anyone can confirm but basically the catcher and the coach got tossed for arguing balls/strikes.

Next pitch, the catcher doesn't really move his glove to catch the pitch and it strikes the umpire? Did anyone see that? Did Detroit just throw at the ump?
 
2017-09-13 02:03:10 PM  

TheManofPA: I missed it but a coworker has the game on. Not sure if anyone can confirm but basically the catcher and the coach got tossed for arguing balls/strikes.

Next pitch, the catcher doesn't really move his glove to catch the pitch and it strikes the umpire? Did anyone see that? Did Detroit just throw at the ump?


it looked a little sketchy.  it was a fastball moving up and away from where the catcher was set up, but he was very slow on moving his arm to go after a easily catchable pitch.   one of those things you could never prove, but the timing made it look real bad
 
2017-09-13 02:12:30 PM  
Cathcer didn't even glance at the ump when he went down. Just trotted out to the mound. Really sketchy.
 
2017-09-13 02:15:22 PM  

Hoopy Frood: Dead for Tax Reasons: Hoopy Frood: The "right time" is three weeks from now.

Long win streaks are great and all, as long as you don't burn out your team trying to keep them alive. Once this streak ends and that adrenaline rush goes away, they're going to be exhausted. If they don't want their win streak to be what their fans hang their hats on when they talk about 2017, they're going to need ample recovery time to put it behind them and regroup for the playoffs.

even though the main guys have been playing just about every day ramirez was out a few days 'injured'), they still have been getting a lot of rest.  every time they are up even 4 or 5 runs in the middle innings tito has been pulling guys and putting in the september call ups.  so out of 20 games, most everyone has probably had the equivalent of 5 games off

I'd be more concerned about mental exhaustion than physical rest. There isn't daily stress and tension about whether Houston's going to win tonight, they get to sit back and cruise. Nobody's been high-strung for two weeks trying to not be the guy responsible for ending a streak.

But as for the physical aspect, did they really need nine from Kluber last night when they're sitting on a double-digit division lead? Do you make a risky play near the wall or send a runner for a possible collision at the plate when you don't need a win tonight?


Tribe has done a good job of using the 10 day DL this year to get guys some time off they wouldn't normally get. Little injuries they may have stayed off the DL if they had to go 15 day DL, they used 10 day and gave them some time off.   It's also given the kids some exposure to the big leagues as well.
 
2017-09-13 02:16:36 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: TheManofPA: I missed it but a coworker has the game on. Not sure if anyone can confirm but basically the catcher and the coach got tossed for arguing balls/strikes.

Next pitch, the catcher doesn't really move his glove to catch the pitch and it strikes the umpire? Did anyone see that? Did Detroit just throw at the ump?

it looked a little sketchy.  it was a fastball moving up and away from where the catcher was set up, but he was very slow on moving his arm to go after a easily catchable pitch.   one of those things you could never prove, but the timing made it look real bad


ESPN updated to note that it looked intentional. I know what you mean though, it's so bang bang it's tough to show, but oddly convenient like when the ball slips and hits a guy who showboated during his last HR
 
2017-09-13 02:20:33 PM  

hughesrep: Hoopy Frood: Dead for Tax Reasons: Hoopy Frood: The "right time" is three weeks from now.

Long win streaks are great and all, as long as you don't burn out your team trying to keep them alive. Once this streak ends and that adrenaline rush goes away, they're going to be exhausted. If they don't want their win streak to be what their fans hang their hats on when they talk about 2017, they're going to need ample recovery time to put it behind them and regroup for the playoffs.

even though the main guys have been playing just about every day ramirez was out a few days 'injured'), they still have been getting a lot of rest.  every time they are up even 4 or 5 runs in the middle innings tito has been pulling guys and putting in the september call ups.  so out of 20 games, most everyone has probably had the equivalent of 5 games off

I'd be more concerned about mental exhaustion than physical rest. There isn't daily stress and tension about whether Houston's going to win tonight, they get to sit back and cruise. Nobody's been high-strung for two weeks trying to not be the guy responsible for ending a streak.

But as for the physical aspect, did they really need nine from Kluber last night when they're sitting on a double-digit division lead? Do you make a risky play near the wall or send a runner for a possible collision at the plate when you don't need a win tonight?

Tribe has done a good job of using the 10 day DL this year to get guys some time off they wouldn't normally get. Little injuries they may have stayed off the DL if they had to go 15 day DL, they used 10 day and gave them some time off.   It's also given the kids some exposure to the big leagues as well.


going to be tough to cut the rosters back down to 25 to go into the playoffs with all the guys contributing like they are

with the injuries, i'm hoping the little bits of time off will help them be fresh for those extra few weeks if they make it back to the world series.  especially miller, he just ran out of gas at the end from all the work.  a few weeks off to heal the knee may just be what the arm needs
 
2017-09-13 02:23:28 PM  

TheManofPA: Dead for Tax Reasons: TheManofPA: I missed it but a coworker has the game on. Not sure if anyone can confirm but basically the catcher and the coach got tossed for arguing balls/strikes.

Next pitch, the catcher doesn't really move his glove to catch the pitch and it strikes the umpire? Did anyone see that? Did Detroit just throw at the ump?

it looked a little sketchy.  it was a fastball moving up and away from where the catcher was set up, but he was very slow on moving his arm to go after a easily catchable pitch.   one of those things you could never prove, but the timing made it look real bad

ESPN updated to note that it looked intentional. I know what you mean though, it's so bang bang it's tough to show, but oddly convenient like when the ball slips and hits a guy who showboated during his last HR


it's one of those things you can't prove but are sure to remember the next time you see them, even if it wasn't intentional

but yeah, it looked on purpose, i was trying to give them the benefit of the very slim doubt
 
2017-09-13 02:32:02 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: ElwoodCuse: they blew a 3-1 lead and lost game 7 at home. I don't give a single shiat what the Indians have done until they lift the trophy

I still think that rain delay in game 7 farked them. I was pulling for the Tribe.


You are a good person, may many blessings visit you and yours.
 
2017-09-13 02:42:31 PM  
I am officially a dumbass.

I'm logging into the MLB radio thingy on my phone to turn the game on but something is up so I reset my password. I go into my laptop to get my email because it is quicker and copypasta the reset password and...

Yeah, I copypasta'd something on my farking laptop that needed to be punched into my phone. I swear one day I'm just going to show up to work in an open robe and slippers.
 
2017-09-13 03:10:47 PM  
21
 
2017-09-13 04:16:47 PM  
ITS TRIBE TIME BABY!
SUCK IT, HATERS.
 
2017-09-13 08:35:25 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: TheManofPA: Dead for Tax Reasons: TheManofPA: I missed it but a coworker has the game on. Not sure if anyone can confirm but basically the catcher and the coach got tossed for arguing balls/strikes.

Next pitch, the catcher doesn't really move his glove to catch the pitch and it strikes the umpire? Did anyone see that? Did Detroit just throw at the ump?

it looked a little sketchy.  it was a fastball moving up and away from where the catcher was set up, but he was very slow on moving his arm to go after a easily catchable pitch.   one of those things you could never prove, but the timing made it look real bad

ESPN updated to note that it looked intentional. I know what you mean though, it's so bang bang it's tough to show, but oddly convenient like when the ball slips and hits a guy who showboated during his last HR

it's one of those things you can't prove but are sure to remember the next time you see them, even if it wasn't intentional

but yeah, it looked on purpose, i was trying to give them the benefit of the very slim doubt


Oh definitely with you on it overall, I was just only posting to update how ESPN caught it and was making note of it looking very very interesting.
 
2017-09-13 09:49:04 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: 21


Yeah, but if you look at run differential, they should only be 20-1 during that stretch. Total luck.
 
2017-09-13 10:07:54 PM  

Trainspotr: Dead for Tax Reasons: 21

Yeah, but if you look at run differential, they should only be 20-1 during that stretch. Total luck.


the way most of those 21 games have gone, they should be at least 25-0
 
2017-09-13 10:35:28 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: Trainspotr: Dead for Tax Reasons: 21

Yeah, but if you look at run differential, they should only be 20-1 during that stretch. Total luck.

the way most of those 21 games have gone, they should be at least 25-0


Yeah. They were talking about it on the Cubs game. A five run differential is hard to maintain for one week, let alone three.
 
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