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2017-09-12 10:03:33 AM  
This amazing thing happens at airports around the world every day.
 
2017-09-12 11:46:40 AM  
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2017-09-12 12:38:15 PM  
In another thread someone asked what was the big deal about winds above 34 knots, as in much of his country such high winds were common.

Being unable to drive safely is one. Being unable to safely land a plane is another.
 
2017-09-12 12:38:41 PM  
Be like the crew of this arrival and please feel free to substitute any of the following phrases as a replacement for "airplane crash":

"Missed Approach"
"Rejected Landing"
"Go Around"
"Flyby"
"Diversion"
 
2017-09-12 01:31:26 PM  

edmo: This amazing thing happens at airports around the world every day.


The rational part of my mind assumes that you're correct and that the pilot had full control of the plane, as evidenced by the fact that they're not all dead.

That doesn't stop me at all from clenching when I watch the video.
 
2017-09-12 02:11:11 PM  
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2017-09-12 02:47:22 PM  
That's why airports have criss-cross runways.
 
2017-09-12 02:49:16 PM  
Pfft, a B-52 probably coulda made that.
 
2017-09-12 02:49:40 PM  
"Gaaaa" is pretty much my reaction to Myrtle Beach at the best of times
 
2017-09-12 02:50:39 PM  

foo monkey


That's why airports have criss-cross runways.


To make everybody jump jump?
 
2017-09-12 02:50:40 PM  
Just turn the landing gear.

B-52 crosswind crab landing
Youtube 9tyc9Imjaqs
 
2017-09-12 02:52:21 PM  

Cagey B: edmo: This amazing thing happens at airports around the world every day.

The rational part of my mind assumes that you're correct and that the pilot had full control of the plane, as evidenced by the fact that they're not all dead.

That doesn't stop me at all from clenching when I watch the video.


It was a flight from Harrisburg. It ended up noping out and landing in Raleigh instead.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY1497/history/20170911/1514Z/KMD​T/KMYR
 
2017-09-12 02:56:42 PM  
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2017-09-12 02:58:25 PM  

foo monkey: That's why airports have criss-cross runways.


I thought he was into boats.
 
2017-09-12 02:58:26 PM  

Cagey B: edmo: This amazing thing happens at airports around the world every day.

The rational part of my mind assumes that you're correct and that the pilot had full control of the plane, as evidenced by the fact that they're not all dead.

That doesn't stop me at all from clenching when I watch the video.


Just imagine being in the passenger cabin and being able to look down the runway on approach. Control or not, I'm probably thinking it's the end.
 
2017-09-12 02:58:41 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: foo monkey

That's why airports have criss-cross runways.


To make everybody jump jump?


When the crosswind's that bad, you switch to a different runway.  Now the crosswind is a headwind or a significantly reduced crosswind.
 
2017-09-12 02:59:55 PM  

Arkanaut: Pfft, a B-52 probably coulda made that.


Only if it was driving a Chrysler as big as a whale.
 
2017-09-12 03:00:15 PM  

foo monkey: When the crosswind's that bad, you switch to a different runway.


That particular flight switched to a different -state-.
 
2017-09-12 03:00:33 PM  


foo monkey


WHOOSH!
 
2017-09-12 03:00:39 PM  
The old Hong Kong airport Kai Tak was notorious for these, and since it was Hong Kong, there were some jumbos coming in there.

Extreme Crosswind Aircraft Crab Landing at Hong Kong Kai Tak Aiport as a Korean Air 747 Jet Lands
Youtube nehZ9v4YB6o
 
2017-09-12 03:00:41 PM  
Now arriving at Gate Eight... Gate Nine... Gate Ten...
 
2017-09-12 03:03:50 PM  
Meh.  Amateur.  Gave up without even getting a wheel on the landing.

Now this -- this is how you abort a cross wind landing.

Lufthansa Airbus 320 crosswind landing wing strike
Youtube aYiLaK5bIJo


Remember for you aspiring A320 pilots:  The idle detent on the throttle is always idle.  The TOGA detent is always TOGA.

This is TOGA.
 
2017-09-12 03:04:03 PM  
I was on a flight into Ontario, CA airport a while back....the  Santa Ana (?) winds were really out of control, there were wildfires everywhere. The pilot was trying his best to control the plane on approach, it was bouncing all over and more disconcerting was dropping what seemed like 50 feet at a shot before barrelling back up. Women were shrieking, children were wailing, my dad and I just looked at each other with a "well, we've had a good run" kind of attitude and rode it out. He finally got it on the ground with a HUGE bounce that I thought would flatten the tires and got us safely to the gate. I gave him a big high-five as we exit the plane. That crew did their job that day.
 
2017-09-12 03:06:16 PM  
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2017-09-12 03:06:52 PM  

MikeyFuccon: In another thread someone asked what was the big deal about winds above 34 knots, as in much of his country such high winds were common.

Being unable to drive safely is one. Being unable to safely land a plane is another.


34 is fine in a headwind
 
2017-09-12 03:09:08 PM  
That pilot was probably giddy with delight knowing they would have to slip it in.

/giggity
 
2017-09-12 03:10:40 PM  
Watching the plane flying diagonally freaked me out. I have never gone in a large plane. I would have been bending over and kissing my ass goodbye.
 
2017-09-12 03:12:19 PM  

Warthog: Meh.  Amateur.  Gave up without even getting a wheel on the landing.

Now this -- this is how you abort a cross wind landing.

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/aYiLaK5bIJo - 480x360]

Remember for you aspiring A320 pilots:  The idle detent on the throttle is always idle.  The TOGA detent is always TOGA.

This is TOGA.


I came in to chime in with 'cross wind landings are common!' then I saw your video and....holy shiat.
 
2017-09-12 03:12:23 PM  

foo monkey: When the crosswind's that bad, you switch to a different runway.  Now the crosswind is a headwind or a significantly reduced crosswind.


..also, I just looked, MYR only has the one 18/36 runway
 
2017-09-12 03:13:13 PM  
Let's ask JFK Jr.

oh wait...
 
2017-09-12 03:14:07 PM  

Danger Mouse: Let's ask JFK Jr.

oh wait...


Arrogance and stupidity are more difficult to fix.
 
2017-09-12 03:14:34 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: foo monkey


WHOOSH!


Damnit, I didn't see the second jump.  I'll own that one.
 
2017-09-12 03:15:55 PM  
Go around? More like blow around, am I right?
 
2017-09-12 03:16:40 PM  
Top 10 Crosswind Landings
Youtube Nw-HYGYdgkA
 
2017-09-12 03:18:21 PM  
That's not a knife!

German Plane Landing Attempt
Youtube W4OxGkmvPng
 
2017-09-12 03:20:24 PM  

Warthog: Meh.  Amateur.  Gave up without even getting a wheel on the landing.

Now this -- this is how you abort a cross wind landing.

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/aYiLaK5bIJo - 480x360]

Remember for you aspiring A320 pilots:  The idle detent on the throttle is always idle.  The TOGA detent is always TOGA.

This is TOGA.


the brown plume from the near landing wasn't dirt or dust.

wouldn't want to be the crew to clean that plane after the flight
 
2017-09-12 03:23:32 PM  

daffy: Watching the plane flying diagonally freaked me out. I have never gone in a large plane. I would have been bending over and kissing my ass goodbye.


You wouldn't have even noticed if you'd been on board, except maybe to think it was a bumpy approach generally.  To you it would just feel like the plane is flying forward.  If you had a window seat on the windward side, you might notice that you weren't just looking sideways, but could see things ahead of the plane as well.  On touchdown, if you were seated all the way at the front or all the way at the back, there'd be a momentary feeling of rotational movement -- like a bit of a swerve.  If you were over the wings you likely wouldn't notice it at all.

Doubt it?  Go to Youtube and search for "Crosswind landing cockpit view."  You'll see a few examples of landings in extreme wind.  When the plane decrabs at the end it's barely perceptible on the video.
 
2017-09-12 03:27:39 PM  
Fast & Furious: Myrtle Beach Drift
 
2017-09-12 03:29:13 PM  

Earl Green: Be like the crew of this arrival and please feel free to substitute any of the following phrases as a replacement for "airplane crash":

"Missed Approach"
"Rejected Landing"
"Go Around"
"Flyby"
"Diversion"


Honestly for decades this was an aborted landing. We had aborted takeoffs too. Now rejected is more acceptable.
 
2017-09-12 03:31:39 PM  

foo monkey


Damnit, I didn't see the second jump. I'll own that one.


No worries. Just poking fun. B-)
 
2017-09-12 03:34:38 PM  
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2017-09-12 03:37:22 PM  
Meh, way less dangerous than ground level shear which we experience frequently in flyover country.  It's amazing how much he was nosed in and still drifting though.  Wonder how high the winds were?
 
2017-09-12 03:40:44 PM  

Warthog: daffy: Watching the plane flying diagonally freaked me out. I have never gone in a large plane. I would have been bending over and kissing my ass goodbye.

You wouldn't have even noticed if you'd been on board, except maybe to think it was a bumpy approach generally.  To you it would just feel like the plane is flying forward.  If you had a window seat on the windward side, you might notice that you weren't just looking sideways, but could see things ahead of the plane as well.  On touchdown, if you were seated all the way at the front or all the way at the back, there'd be a momentary feeling of rotational movement -- like a bit of a swerve.  If you were over the wings you likely wouldn't notice it at all.

Doubt it?  Go to Youtube and search for "Crosswind landing cockpit view."  You'll see a few examples of landings in extreme wind.  When the plane decrabs at the end it's barely perceptible on the video.


I'm not sure if that makes me feel better or worse about the prospect of flying.
 
2017-09-12 03:45:02 PM  

drewsclues: Cagey B: edmo: This amazing thing happens at airports around the world every day.

The rational part of my mind assumes that you're correct and that the pilot had full control of the plane, as evidenced by the fact that they're not all dead.

That doesn't stop me at all from clenching when I watch the video.

Just imagine being in the passenger cabin and being able to look down the runway on approach. Control or not, I'm probably thinking it's the end.


It's actually cool.  I was on a horrible flight(*) once from Pittsburgh to Roanoke and we landed in a massive crosswind.  I got a nice view of the runway from 2+ miles out.  I was getting my pilot's license at the time so I was totally used to slipping a C-152 onto a runway in a crosswind, and it was one of those "Hey, this works even with a 100 ton 757!" thoughts.  That said, I'm amazed he didn't break something in the undercarriage because I'd never had a pilot slam something down like that before.

(*) Horrible as in "This is your Captain speaking.  I just wanted to apologize for this flight- if I knew it was going to be this bad we wouldn't have taken off".  Lots of crying and puking on that one, but it was cool to see them try to weave around the thunderstorms at night.
 
2017-09-12 03:49:47 PM  

daffy: Warthog: daffy: Watching the plane flying diagonally freaked me out. I have never gone in a large plane. I would have been bending over and kissing my ass goodbye.

You wouldn't have even noticed if you'd been on board, except maybe to think it was a bumpy approach generally.  To you it would just feel like the plane is flying forward.  If you had a window seat on the windward side, you might notice that you weren't just looking sideways, but could see things ahead of the plane as well.  On touchdown, if you were seated all the way at the front or all the way at the back, there'd be a momentary feeling of rotational movement -- like a bit of a swerve.  If you were over the wings you likely wouldn't notice it at all.

Doubt it?  Go to Youtube and search for "Crosswind landing cockpit view."  You'll see a few examples of landings in extreme wind.  When the plane decrabs at the end it's barely perceptible on the video.

I'm not sure if that makes me feel better or worse about the prospect of flying.


Flying is wonderful!  It's the hurtling into the ground at hundreds of miles per hour if something goes wrong, potentially while engulfed in flames, that really sucks.
 
2017-09-12 04:05:18 PM  

Egoy3k: Warthog: Meh.  Amateur.  Gave up without even getting a wheel on the landing.

Now this -- this is how you abort a cross wind landing.

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/aYiLaK5bIJo - 480x360]

Remember for you aspiring A320 pilots:  The idle detent on the throttle is always idle.  The TOGA detent is always TOGA.

This is TOGA.

I came in to chime in with 'cross wind landings are common!' then I saw your video and....holy shiat.


Just about took the wings off...
 
2017-09-12 04:07:53 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: drewsclues: Cagey B: edmo: This amazing thing happens at airports around the world every day.

The rational part of my mind assumes that you're correct and that the pilot had full control of the plane, as evidenced by the fact that they're not all dead.

That doesn't stop me at all from clenching when I watch the video.

Just imagine being in the passenger cabin and being able to look down the runway on approach. Control or not, I'm probably thinking it's the end.

It's actually cool.  I was on a horrible flight(*) once from Pittsburgh to Roanoke and we landed in a massive crosswind.  I got a nice view of the runway from 2+ miles out.  I was getting my pilot's license at the time so I was totally used to slipping a C-152 onto a runway in a crosswind, and it was one of those "Hey, this works even with a 100 ton 757!" thoughts.  That said, I'm amazed he didn't break something in the undercarriage because I'd never had a pilot slam something down like that before.

(*) Horrible as in "This is your Captain speaking.  I just wanted to apologize for this flight- if I knew it was going to be this bad we wouldn't have taken off".  Lots of crying and puking on that one, but it was cool to see them try to weave around the thunderstorms at night.


I'm a never nervous flier but I do get very motion sick, very easily.

I flew in to Austin while Harvey was still hanging out in Houston. The turbulence wasn't that bad, I've experienced worse, but I was so sick, including shaking and sweating in addition to nausea. For some reason it bothers me that people might think it's fear.
 
2017-09-12 04:26:14 PM  

edmo: This amazing thing happens at airports around the world every day.


Nopeing out on a landing in a hurricane?  No it doesn't.

/The crosswind isn't the problem, the gusts are the problem.
//If it's a steady crosswind, you either compensate if it's in spec for your plane or nope out before you get there.
 
2017-09-12 04:44:06 PM  

foo monkey: Englebert Slaptyback: foo monkey


WHOOSH!

Damnit, I didn't see the second jump.  I'll own that one.


That's OK. Just put on some kitshickers and kit some shick.
 
2017-09-12 05:03:48 PM  
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