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(Some Guy)   Trying to get excited about Blade Runner 2049 but hated the original? You're not alone   ( deadseriousness.com) divider line
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2017-09-12 12:04:08 AM  
Fark anyone who hates the original.

Fark them straight to hell.

That is all.
 
2017-09-12 12:07:18 AM  

markie_farkie: Fark anyone who hates the original.

Fark them straight to hell.

That is all.


I consider myself quite the nerd. But I've never actually sat down through the whole original. I guess I have a problem with a movie where one of the first questions is 'which version should I watch'
 
2017-09-12 12:16:50 AM  

Gubbo: markie_farkie: Fark anyone who hates the original.

Fark them straight to hell.

That is all.

I consider myself quite the nerd. But I've never actually sat down through the whole original. I guess I have a problem with a movie where one of the first questions is 'which version should I watch'


The original.
It isn't quite as good if you think Deckard is a replicant. Although it makes sense if you realize all the humans left on earth are weak or compromised in some way.
The only healthy looking people in the movie are replicants.
 
2017-09-12 12:21:37 AM  

Gubbo: markie_farkie: Fark anyone who hates the original.

Fark them straight to hell.

That is all.

I consider myself quite the nerd. But I've never actually sat down through the whole original. I guess I have a problem with a movie where one of the first questions is 'which version should I watch'


If you're really a nerd you'll watch both.

But:

Seven versions of the film Blade Runner exist, but only the Director's Cut and International Cut are widely known and seen: The U.S. Theatrical Cut (also known as Original Version), released in the U.S. in June 1982.


I....yi yi....uh....
 
2017-09-12 12:25:42 AM  
It's rather sad that people think that hating something other people like makes them edgy and cool.

fine you don't like a great movie...just keep it to yourself and watch the movie with the talking Raccoon.
 
2017-09-12 12:36:09 AM  

markie_farkie: Fark anyone who hates the original.

Fark them straight to hell.

That is all.


They need their eyes repossessed.
 
2017-09-12 12:50:28 AM  
You are, however, a bad person and should feel bad.  I mean, that's if you even qualify as a person at that point.  Why aren't you helping the tortoise?
 
2017-09-12 03:03:32 AM  
Mark me down for "a great big pile of 'meh'" on the original.  Artsy is not necessarily good.

The Last Starfighter was better.
 
2017-09-12 03:29:01 AM  
I don't hate the original, but I also haven't gotten any urge to pull out my DVD copy of it to rewatch in recent years, either.
 
2017-09-12 03:30:49 AM  
I don't hate Blade Runner. I just think it kind of petered out.
 
2017-09-12 03:31:26 AM  
It was a 40 minute film crammed into 2+ hours. Called Blade Crawler by a lot of people for its very slow and uncomfortable pacing. Is a visual masterpiece and iconic regardless.
 
2017-09-12 03:33:31 AM  

neilbradley: It was a 40 minute film crammed into 2+ hours. Called Blade Crawler by a lot of people for its very slow and uncomfortable pacing. Is a visual masterpiece and iconic regardless.


Did I just say what you said in the comment above, but not quite so elegantly?
 
2017-09-12 03:37:35 AM  

optikeye: It's rather sad that people think that hating something other people like makes them edgy and cool.

fine you don't like a great movie...just keep it to yourself and watch the movie with the talking Raccoon.


Why did you capitalize raccoon?

Moving on, why would someone care if a sequel to a standalone movie they don't like is good?
 
2017-09-12 03:39:06 AM  

Harry_Seldon: neilbradley: It was a 40 minute film crammed into 2+ hours. Called Blade Crawler by a lot of people for its very slow and uncomfortable pacing. Is a visual masterpiece and iconic regardless.

Did I just say what you said in the comment above, but not quite so elegantly?


Variation on a theme, I guess. Petering out might indicate that it started off strong but fizzled at the end. I'd assert that it was badly paced all the way through. ;-)
 
2017-09-12 03:41:25 AM  

Bootysama: optikeye: It's rather sad that people think that hating something other people like makes them edgy and cool.

fine you don't like a great movie...just keep it to yourself and watch the movie with the talking Raccoon.

Why did you capitalize raccoon?


'Cos that's the critter's name?
 
2017-09-12 03:44:18 AM  
FTA:
" Also, go ahead and throw Deadseriousness a Like on Facebook so that I can keep the lights on around here at HQ. "

No, I'm not going to do that, you dickhead. BR was released in 1982, it was designed, planned and filmed *before* that, so complaining that its visuals are typical of 80s films is not just silly, it moves into the "transparent" realm of cheap, fake critique. Clickbait, in other words. So you're not getting any income from me.

P.S. I use noscript, so while I read your attempt at an opinion piece, you're still not getting any advertising income from my visit to your dungheap of a web page.
 
2017-09-12 03:47:27 AM  
Shouldn't it be the other way around?
 
2017-09-12 03:52:17 AM  

neilbradley: Harry_Seldon: neilbradley: It was a 40 minute film crammed into 2+ hours. Called Blade Crawler by a lot of people for its very slow and uncomfortable pacing. Is a visual masterpiece and iconic regardless.

Did I just say what you said in the comment above, but not quite so elegantly?

Variation on a theme, I guess. Petering out might indicate that it started off strong but fizzled at the end. I'd assert that it was badly paced all the way through. ;-)


SPOILER WARNING FOR THE MILLENIALS WHO HAVEN'T SEEN THE ORIGINAL
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What, slow pacing at the start (Leon suddenly shoots Holden), then in the middle (Deck shoots Zhora after a fast, tense chase through the crowds, and then Rachel shoots Leon just before he gouges out Deck's eyes), then Deck shoots Pris (after an admittedly unconvincing fight), then Roy unexpectedly saves Deck after a chase through an abandoned building. That kind of uneven pacing?

Sheesh, not even The Avengers had fights and action in every scene. Perhaps a story needs a variety of pacing to unfold in its own way.
 
2017-09-12 04:20:15 AM  

optikeye: It's rather sad that people think that hating something other people like makes them edgy and cool.

fine you don't like a great movie...just keep it to yourself and watch the movie with the talking Raccoon.


The director himself obviously sees some flaws, or he wouldn't spend time re-editing it every few years.

I liked it, but it's hardly a regular watch from my movie collection.
 
2017-09-12 04:20:57 AM  
I loved the vistas.

/loved the world it built, but that movie was slow as shiat.
 
2017-09-12 04:30:24 AM  
I rewatched it relatively recently and I think it looked amazing and held up really well.  The film pacing is slow and I like that.  It is not a popcorn sci-fi and I think it takes a few viewings to fully appreciate (a bit like Brazil in the article - just in a different way to that comparison).
 
2017-09-12 04:43:14 AM  
 Let's not forget the superfluous fireball emitting building tops.
 
2017-09-12 04:43:26 AM  
Your blog sucks.
 
2017-09-12 05:00:06 AM  

optikeye: It's rather sad that people think that hating something other people like makes them edgy and cool.

fine you don't like a great movie...just keep it to yourself and watch the movie with the talking Raccoon.


Why not watch both?

/his name is Rocket
 
2017-09-12 05:02:31 AM  

ol' gormsby: FTA:
" Also, go ahead and throw Deadseriousness a Like on Facebook so that I can keep the lights on around here at HQ. "

No, I'm not going to do that, you dickhead. BR was released in 1982, it was designed, planned and filmed *before* that, so complaining that its visuals are typical of 80s films is not just silly, it moves into the "transparent" realm of cheap, fake critique. Clickbait, in other words. So you're not getting any income from me.

P.S. I use noscript, so while I read your attempt at an opinion piece, you're still not getting any advertising income from my visit to your dungheap of a web page.


This, the 2nd paragraph.

The article mentioned not knowing why the replicants came back to earth but I thought that was pretty clear.

The blu ray is flippin' gorgeous btw.  Rare to find SF that looks even passably good 35 years later
 
2017-09-12 05:16:18 AM  
The Thing prequel was better than the original
 
2017-09-12 05:25:22 AM  

Naido: The blu ray is flippin' gorgeous btw. Rare to find SF that looks even passably good 35 years later


They put a LOT of effort into cleaning up the footage.

I'm going to time this carefully - I'll play the blu-ray on the 55" screen about 1 week before the sequel is released - enough time to allow the original to fade to background before seeing the new one. I want the memories fresh, but not distracting.
 
2017-09-12 05:49:38 AM  
Millennial article writing sucks more than Blade Runner.
 
2017-09-12 05:52:59 AM  
Sure, subby, if you are such a worthless person that even your attempts to drunkenly troll on the internet are too obviously half-assed to even get upset about, you indeed are not alone.

Not sure why you feel the need to post an example, we all already knew this.
 
2017-09-12 05:54:56 AM  
The cinematography and acting were great in Blade Runner, but to be honest, it was a bit boring.
 
2017-09-12 05:55:45 AM  
The book was really good.
 
2017-09-12 06:04:03 AM  

Kirablue42: The book was really good.


IIRC, in the book, after he took Rachel home and had sex with her, then he shot her dead.  And he's like 'my buddy is right.. it is easier to kill them after sex'..

I'd rather not keep that part.
 
2017-09-12 06:10:26 AM  

Gubbo: I consider myself quite the nerd. But I've never actually sat down through the whole original. I guess I have a problem with a movie where one of the first questions is 'which version should I watch'


The second ultimate, double deluxe, finale directors cut. It adds 12 seconds which completely change the whole film
 
2017-09-12 06:22:23 AM  

Alphax: Kirablue42: The book was really good.

IIRC, in the book, after he took Rachel home and had sex with her, then he shot her dead.  And he's like 'my buddy is right.. it is easier to kill them after sex'..

I'd rather not keep that part.


Wait, what? The end of the book finds Decker in the wastes of Oregon. After several happenings following the life of Mercer, he has a vision of Mercer who tells him his occupation is immoral. Rushing back to his car, he stumbles across a toad ( an animal thought to be extinct and holy in Mercerism.) Excited, he brings the animal home, where his girlfriend finds that the toad is a robot.
 
2017-09-12 06:24:53 AM  

Cheron: Gubbo: I consider myself quite the nerd. But I've never actually sat down through the whole original. I guess I have a problem with a movie where one of the first questions is 'which version should I watch'

The second ultimate, double deluxe, finale directors cut. It adds 12 seconds which completely change the whole film


Well, Rachel could pass the VK test in 12 seconds of montage.

Deckard could take and fail the VK test, ditto.

Leon could pass the test at the beginning, and there goes your whole movie.

Pris could kill Deck.

Rachel could join Pris in a hot tub........ I'll be in my bunk, don't care about the rest of the film.
 
2017-09-12 06:25:16 AM  

swamp_of_dumb: Alphax: Kirablue42: The book was really good.

IIRC, in the book, after he took Rachel home and had sex with her, then he shot her dead.  And he's like 'my buddy is right.. it is easier to kill them after sex'..

I'd rather not keep that part.

Wait, what? The end of the book finds Decker in the wastes of Oregon. After several happenings following the life of Mercer, he has a vision of Mercer who tells him his occupation is immoral. Rushing back to his car, he stumbles across a toad ( an animal thought to be extinct and holy in Mercerism.) Excited, he brings the animal home, where his girlfriend finds that the toad is a robot.


Meant to add: Book>>>movie, but a replicant rushed in and hit the "add comment button.
 
2017-09-12 06:28:09 AM  

Army dude: The cinematography and acting were great in Blade Runner, but to be honest, it was a bit boring.


Have you only ever seen it on a smallish home TV with TV speakers? Seriously, watch it on a big screen, in the dark, with BIG L+R stereo speakers, or a decent 5.1 audio system.

Watch the "Zhora" chase and shooting, then watch it again. "Boring" is not the adjective I'd use for that sequence.
 
2017-09-12 06:34:48 AM  
And one of the greatest movie sountracks ever recorded

(Link goes to the remastered Esper Edition)
 
2017-09-12 06:44:43 AM  

SuperTramp: And one of the greatest movie sountracks ever recorded

(Link goes to the remastered Esper Edition)


Thanks - I hadn't seen/heard that version. Got the 5-disc 2002 version, but it tends to dissipate after disc 3.
 
2017-09-12 06:51:53 AM  
FTA: blue and grey color filters on the lenses

Well that's a lot better than the farking bullshiat orange and teal post-production colour grading bullshiat that's everywhere these days.
 
2017-09-12 07:03:18 AM  

SuperTramp: And one of the greatest movie sountracks ever recorded

(Link goes to the remastered Esper Edition)


Listening to it on earbuds now - not bad, showing the limits of an MP4 conversion. I'll put it on the big stereo tomorrow, then search Amazon for a proper disc or download.
 
2017-09-12 07:14:44 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: Bootysama: optikeye: It's rather sad that people think that hating something other people like makes them edgy and cool.

fine you don't like a great movie...just keep it to yourself and watch the movie with the talking Raccoon.

Why did you capitalize raccoon?

'Cos that's the critter's name?


I thought it was "Trash Panda"? :)
 
2017-09-12 07:20:06 AM  
"Blade Runner and Brazil are the same shiatty movie"

You just doubly failed my litmus test for one's taste in movies. Your opinion sucks, and you are wrong.
 
2017-09-12 07:27:23 AM  
I sae it in the theater and was floored. Maybe it was youth, maybe it was my fascination with sci-fi, ot Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, or Sean Young, or just all of it. I *still* get fully absorbed into it.

Must suck to hate on a film you were never a part of.
 
2017-09-12 07:32:08 AM  
to tell the complete and total truth, I only haven't seen that movie along with a great many others because I want to watch them in the right setting and with the right person. To get the full experience of the movie.
 
2017-09-12 07:32:34 AM  
Most people prefer fast-paced, CGI 'splosion festivals. News at 11

/BR is my favorite movie in color
 
2017-09-12 07:34:05 AM  
neilbradley:
It was a 40 minute film crammed into 2+ hours. Called Blade Crawler by a lot of people for its very slow and uncomfortable pacing. Is a visual masterpiece and iconic regardless.

It's the only movie so far that I've literally fallen asleep to every single time I've tried to watch it (three times so far; maybe it's because the reruns were all late at night; and maybe the Director's Cut being shown is even longer; or maybe the German dubbing sucks).
So while I can't really give an opinion on its content, I've a suspicion you might be on to something.


/ managed to stay awake through 2001 and Dark Star despite being a child expecting/hoping for something like Star Wars
 
2017-09-12 07:44:37 AM  
If I want a futuristic dystopia, I'll take Metropolis over Blade Runner in a heartbeat.
 
2017-09-12 07:53:19 AM  

The Voice of Doom: neilbradley:
It was a 40 minute film crammed into 2+ hours. Called Blade Crawler by a lot of people for its very slow and uncomfortable pacing. Is a visual masterpiece and iconic regardless.

It's the only movie so far that I've literally fallen asleep to every single time I've tried to watch it (three times so far; maybe it's because the reruns were all late at night; and maybe the Director's Cut being shown is even longer; or maybe the German dubbing sucks).
So while I can't really give an opinion on its content, I've a suspicion you might be on to something.


/ managed to stay awake through 2001 and Dark Star despite being a child expecting/hoping for something like Star Wars


I also can't make it through the movie.  But not from falling asleep but from simply unable to watch the slow meandering plot unfolding that barely makes any sense. I wish I did like it though, I really enjoy sci-fi but for whatever reason I can't bring myself to finish it. I think the furthest I got was when Harrison Ford was at some house that looked like a pyramid. He was sitting there, a plane/car flies in, he's mumbling something... I dunno, I barely remember.
Every time one of these threads come up I tend to try and watch it again because practically everyone sings its praises. Maybe I needed to have had to watch it as a kid.
 
2017-09-12 07:55:04 AM  

optikeye: It's rather sad that people think that hating something other people like makes them edgy and cool.

fine you don't like a great movie...just keep it to yourself and watch the movie with the talking Raccoon.


"People shouldn't express negative opinions!!!"

Jesus, dude.
 
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