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(Vox)   Turns out, 2017 is the worst fall television season in years   ( vox.com) divider line
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2017-09-11 11:53:33 PM  
Seems like there's a lot of 'Merica patriotic shows.
 
2017-09-11 11:53:39 PM  
On NBC alone, both This Is Us and The Good Place were instantly self-assured

Never watched This Is Us, but The Good Place and People of Earth were last year's two most pleasant TV surprises.
 
2017-09-11 11:56:05 PM  
Fox's The Orville, is a bafflingly misconceived Star Trek rip-off that seems to exist only because Seth MacFarlane has made 20th Century Fox billions of dollars.

The consensus in the discussion thread about that one was that it was relatively good/showed promise.
 
2017-09-12 12:39:12 AM  

fusillade762: Fox's The Orville, is a bafflingly misconceived Star Trek rip-off that seems to exist only because Seth MacFarlane has made 20th Century Fox billions of dollars.

The consensus in the discussion thread about that one was that it was relatively good/showed promise.


You'd trust a cadre of Fark bedwetters for what is actually good? This plane tends toward groupthink and narrow entertainment tastes.
 
2017-09-12 12:45:39 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: fusillade762: Fox's The Orville, is a bafflingly misconceived Star Trek rip-off that seems to exist only because Seth MacFarlane has made 20th Century Fox billions of dollars.

The consensus in the discussion thread about that one was that it was relatively good/showed promise.

You'd trust a cadre of Fark bedwetters for what is actually good? This plane tends toward groupthink and narrow entertainment tastes.


Farkers introduced me to Rick and Morty. I'm inclined to give their recommendations some weight.
 
2017-09-12 01:11:56 AM  
I like Maude.
 
2017-09-12 01:12:47 AM  

fusillade762: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: fusillade762: Fox's The Orville, is a bafflingly misconceived Star Trek rip-off that seems to exist only because Seth MacFarlane has made 20th Century Fox billions of dollars.

The consensus in the discussion thread about that one was that it was relatively good/showed promise.

You'd trust a cadre of Fark bedwetters for what is actually good? This plane tends toward groupthink and narrow entertainment tastes.

Farkers introduced me to Rick and Morty. I'm inclined to give their recommendations some weight.


Yesterday's episode was incredible.
 
2017-09-12 01:42:11 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: fusillade762: Fox's The Orville, is a bafflingly misconceived Star Trek rip-off that seems to exist only because Seth MacFarlane has made 20th Century Fox billions of dollars.

The consensus in the discussion thread about that one was that it was relatively good/showed promise.

You'd trust a cadre of Fark bedwetters for what is actually good? This plane tends toward groupthink and narrow entertainment tastes.


I thought it was potentially good, even if not necessarily great.

That means it should be cancelled in 2-3 seasons.
 
2017-09-12 02:00:30 AM  
It's only 9/12. Give it a chance?
 
2017-09-12 02:51:14 AM  

fusillade762: On NBC alone, both This Is Us and The Good Place were instantly self-assured

Never watched This Is Us, but The Good Place and People of Earth were last year's two most pleasant TV surprises.


I'm not a fan of This Is Us, although I recognize that it's a good, well made show. But oh my god, I [heart] People of Earth so much! Jeff! And the bee!
 
2017-09-12 03:01:24 AM  
Working 3rd shift and sleeping every evenings, I only watch TV later via iTunes, so I don't watch anything casually.  When I have to pay for it, I'm a biatchoosy.

I'm just waiting for my shows from last year to return, and those haven't talked a lot about the upcoming seasons much so far.
 
2017-09-12 03:07:11 AM  

BalugaJoe: I like Maude.


I love Lucy.
 
2017-09-12 03:10:34 AM  

davidphogan: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: fusillade762: Fox's The Orville, is a bafflingly misconceived Star Trek rip-off that seems to exist only because Seth MacFarlane has made 20th Century Fox billions of dollars.

The consensus in the discussion thread about that one was that it was relatively good/showed promise.

You'd trust a cadre of Fark bedwetters for what is actually good? This plane tends toward groupthink and narrow entertainment tastes.

I thought it was potentially good, even if not necessarily great.

That means it should be cancelled in 2-3 seasons.


ST: TNG had a really rough start.  I'm willing to watch the entire season of The Orville to give it room to grow into its own.  It was entertaining, a bit funny, but not a complete parody.  I think of it as taking people as they are today -- various personalities from co-workers, college friends, etc and throwing them into futuristic scenarios.   The characters were all a bit irreverent, somewhat unprofessional, at times a biatchildish, and flawed...  very... human.  There were some serious issues dealt with along with some humor.  I was hoping more for "Galaxy Quest" like humor, but got a real Star Trek show with some SG: Atlantis type humor instead.   We'll see where it goes.
 
2017-09-12 03:14:45 AM  
Also, happy birthday(yesterday) to Elizabeth Henstridge.
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2017-09-12 03:15:36 AM  
Do people still pay attention to this? I can't remember the last time I got involved in watching network TV on its original run. The only original shows I watch are primarily on Netflix, and occasionally Amazon.
 
2017-09-12 03:20:43 AM  
After 2 farking days
 
2017-09-12 03:35:46 AM  

Alphax: Also, happy birthday(yesterday) to Elizabeth Henstridge.
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Also a 9/11 baby.
 
2017-09-12 03:37:48 AM  

Harry_Seldon: BalugaJoe: I like Maude.

I love Lucy.


Love that Bob.
 
2017-09-12 03:40:38 AM  

fusillade762: Alphax: Also, happy birthday(yesterday) to Elizabeth Henstridge.
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Also a 9/11 baby.


Pretty, but I don't recognize her.
 
2017-09-12 03:52:08 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: fusillade762: Fox's The Orville, is a bafflingly misconceived Star Trek rip-off that seems to exist only because Seth MacFarlane has made 20th Century Fox billions of dollars.

The consensus in the discussion thread about that one was that it was relatively good/showed promise.

You'd trust a cadre of Fark bedwetters for what is actually good? This plane tends toward groupthink and narrow entertainment tastes.


The sheer numbers of them here still furiously masterbating to the Disney Star Wars abortions are proof of that.

Just watch the response to this critizim as proof....
 
2017-09-12 03:55:44 AM  

Sid_6.7: It's only 9/12. Give it a chance?


I fast-forwarded through the CBS preview, I didn't see anything worth remembering. And Fox has moved Gotham to Thursday night, possibly against the sitcom with as big a nerd fan base.
 
2017-09-12 03:58:07 AM  

Alphax: fusillade762: Alphax: Also, happy birthday(yesterday) to Elizabeth Henstridge.
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Also a 9/11 baby.

Pretty, but I don't recognize her.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taraji_P._Henson
 
2017-09-12 04:08:57 AM  

EffervescingElephant: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: fusillade762: Fox's The Orville, is a bafflingly misconceived Star Trek rip-off that seems to exist only because Seth MacFarlane has made 20th Century Fox billions of dollars.

The consensus in the discussion thread about that one was that it was relatively good/showed promise.

You'd trust a cadre of Fark bedwetters for what is actually good? This plane tends toward groupthink and narrow entertainment tastes.

The sheer numbers of them here still furiously masterbating to the Disney Star Wars abortions are proof of that.

Just watch the response to this critizim as proof....


I'm masterbating to your critizim.
 
2017-09-12 04:14:05 AM  

fusillade762: EffervescingElephant: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: fusillade762: Fox's The Orville, is a bafflingly misconceived Star Trek rip-off that seems to exist only because Seth MacFarlane has made 20th Century Fox billions of dollars.

The consensus in the discussion thread about that one was that it was relatively good/showed promise.

You'd trust a cadre of Fark bedwetters for what is actually good? This plane tends toward groupthink and narrow entertainment tastes.

The sheer numbers of them here still furiously masterbating to the Disney Star Wars abortions are proof of that.

Just watch the response to this critizim as proof....

I'm masterbating to your critizim.


Lol...bravo!
 
2017-09-12 05:16:46 AM  

davidphogan: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: fusillade762: Fox's The Orville, is a bafflingly misconceived Star Trek rip-off that seems to exist only because Seth MacFarlane has made 20th Century Fox billions of dollars.

The consensus in the discussion thread about that one was that it was relatively good/showed promise.

You'd trust a cadre of Fark bedwetters for what is actually good? This plane tends toward groupthink and narrow entertainment tastes.

I thought it was potentially good, even if not necessarily great.

That means it should be cancelled in 2-3 seasons.


This is Fox.  At least they're airing the first episode first.
 
2017-09-12 05:20:47 AM  

enry: This is Fox.  At least they're airing the first episode first.


Shiny.
 
2017-09-12 05:58:36 AM  

Harry_Seldon: Do people still pay attention to this? I can't remember the last time I got involved in watching network TV on its original run. The only original shows I watch are primarily on Netflix, and occasionally Amazon.


We keep an eye out for new shows that we might like and I set up the DVR to record the season so we watch when it's convenient. I work nights so I rarely watch any live TV anyway.
 
2017-09-12 06:37:57 AM  
The writer seems really bitter and angry. What's their Fark handle?
 
2017-09-12 06:43:55 AM  
*checks calendar*

... it appears to be not even halfway through September.  We aren't even 20 days into fall yet.

fark off.
 
2017-09-12 07:09:49 AM  
That writer is hung up on This is Us.  Talked more about last seasons shows than this ones.  Poor article.
 
2017-09-12 07:10:25 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: After 2 farking days


But, but, but deadlines.

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: You'd trust a cadre of Fark bedwetters for what is actually good? This plane tends toward groupthink and narrow entertainment tastes.


Oh, so true...so true.
 
2017-09-12 07:36:05 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: fusillade762: Fox's The Orville, is a bafflingly misconceived Star Trek rip-off that seems to exist only because Seth MacFarlane has made 20th Century Fox billions of dollars.

The consensus in the discussion thread about that one was that it was relatively good/showed promise.

You'd trust a cadre of Fark bedwetters for what is actually good? This plane tends toward groupthink and narrow entertainment tastes.


Bunch of people > one person.

However, this is Seth MacFarlene we're talking about. He'd take a shiat on a nun's and he'll still find a cavalcade of chuckleheads applauding his genius.
 
2017-09-12 07:37:50 AM  
I think this was a hidden advertisement for the next season of This Is Us. And the author didn't even like the show.
 
2017-09-12 07:54:07 AM  

Jim_Callahan: *checks calendar*

... it appears to be not even halfway through September.  We aren't even 20 days into fall yet.

fark off.


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Critics get screeners of shows before the public does. Film at 11.
 
2017-09-12 08:39:58 AM  

Jim_Callahan: *checks calendar*

... it appears to be not even halfway through September.  We aren't even 20 days into fall yet.

fark off.


We're 10 days away from Fall starting.
 
2017-09-12 08:45:34 AM  
Fail tag for Vox? It's like a low rent Slate or Salon. Not nearly as enragingly stupid, but then they put barely any effort into their rubbish articles.

Of the few concrete things the author babbled about, he was completely wrong about Brooklyn Nine-Nine and Superstore resetting after each episode (I haven't watched the other two mentioned). They have somewhat episode-contained plots, but the stories definitely progress. You can't just drop in anywhere and expect to be fully entertained like in the days of broadcast only TV. I get the impression this guy is like the typical game reviewer--absolutely shiat at playing games but that's okay because he's a "journalist" first.
 
2017-09-12 08:45:55 AM  

EffervescingElephant: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: fusillade762: Fox's The Orville, is a bafflingly misconceived Star Trek rip-off that seems to exist only because Seth MacFarlane has made 20th Century Fox billions of dollars.

The consensus in the discussion thread about that one was that it was relatively good/showed promise.

You'd trust a cadre of Fark bedwetters for what is actually good? This plane tends toward groupthink and narrow entertainment tastes.

The sheer numbers of them here still furiously masterbating to the Disney Star Wars abortions are proof of that.

Just watch the response to this critizim as proof....


87% of movie-goers and 85% of critics liked Rogue One. 89% of movie-goers and 91% of critics liked The Force Awakens. Honestly, if anything, the percentage of people angrily bashing movies that no one has talked about in months is what's oddly out of alignment with the population as a whole.
 
2017-09-12 08:57:24 AM  
Time for Admiral Baby?
 
2017-09-12 09:14:40 AM  

TheManofPA: Time for Admiral Baby?


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It's hard to believe someone that young could have risen to the rank of admiral.
 
2017-09-12 09:15:43 AM  

fusillade762: Fox's The Orville, is a bafflingly misconceived Star Trek rip-off that seems to exist only because Seth MacFarlane has made 20th Century Fox billions of dollars.

The consensus in the discussion thread about that one was that it was relatively good/showed promise.


I don't know about the discussion thread but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Best Star Trek series since DS9.
 
2017-09-12 09:21:09 AM  
Just about the only thing I fully agree with TFA on is that The Good Place is abso-forking-lutely amazeballs.

Re-watched the whole series about a week ago after I saw it had popped up on Netflix, and it was even more fun the second time.

Inhumans does look like crap though.  (If I want to see Ramsay Bolton with superpowers, I'll go watch Misfits again)

I'm not usually a fan of Seth MacFarlane, but the first ep of The Orville showed promise.  The humor wasn't overly low-brow, and yes, it's riffing on Star Trek, but that is allowed.  So many of the reviews are filled with bile and hatred for the show, and I can't help but wonder if these reviewers think Star Trek is some sort of sacred cow or something, and they're offended that The Orville is "disrespectful".  Of course, The Orville so far seems to me to be far more respectful to the Trek source material than the Abramsverse movies.

Actually, the humor seems to remind me a bit of Farscape, which allowed Crichton to respond to the absurdity of some of the sci-fi happenings which in other series are presented straight and taken seriously.  There's an element of absurdity in most sci-fi (except perhaps the incredibly dry "hard" sci-fi) and it's not necessarily a bad thing for the characters themselves to be aware of at least some of it.  It can be overdone, of course, but in the pilot the balance was good.

/I've seen some ads for People of Earth and it looked interesting
//On the strength of comments in this thread, I'll check it out.
 
2017-09-12 09:22:57 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: You'd trust a cadre of Fark bedwetters for what is actually good? This plane tends toward groupthink and narrow entertainment tastes.


It certainly does!  That's why every thread about any entertainment offering is short and populated with a few people agreeing with each other on the group-think opinion, and not clogged with arguments and disagreements and squabbles.
 
2017-09-12 09:24:30 AM  

Jim_Callahan: *checks calendar*

... it appears to be not even halfway through September.  We aren't even 20 days into fall yet.

fark off.


Most new non cw network fall shows premiere in the week starting September 25th.  Its almost here
 
2017-09-12 09:37:07 AM  

12349876: Jim_Callahan: *checks calendar*

... it appears to be not even halfway through September.  We aren't even 20 days into fall yet.

fark off.

Most new non cw network fall shows premiere in the week starting September 25th.  Its almost here


But who cares? All of the good stuff is on cable and gets released throughout the year. The "Fall TV season" is a construct of a bygone era and is irrelevant in a world where Game of Thrones gets huge numbers of people tuning in during the middle of summer.
 
2017-09-12 09:42:02 AM  
Also, speaking of TV, I'm so happy that Preacher finally course-corrected this year and finally started bringing in some of the funniest parts of the comic, like Starr and the whole Grail subplot. After a disappointing first season, I feel like it finally has embraced the spirit of the comic, even if it has made some changes (most of which are pretty good, although it is a little weird seeing Jessie so willing to work with Starr, but the TV show Jessie is much more of an asshole than comic Jessie).
 
2017-09-12 09:43:00 AM  
Will and Grace should have gone to Netflix. NBC is going to kill it. Like it did the first time. Also, Trumpler will advise his troops to actively resist GayTV in all of its flavors.
 
2017-09-12 09:51:25 AM  

KingRamze: ST: TNG had a really rough start.


Of the various space series, I think only Farscape had a really cracking start.
 
2017-09-12 09:52:22 AM  
My opinion on the Orville is probably worthless, since I am guessing I am not the intended audience, since I don't fawn over Star Trek shows and movies (although I've seen all the Star Wars movies, and liked Galaxy Quest, for whatever that's worth).     But, I caught about 5 minutes of The Orville, and it seemed extremely bland and boring.
 
2017-09-12 09:53:06 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Will and Grace should have gone to Netflix. NBC is going to kill it. Like it did the first time. Also, Trumpler will advise his troops to actively resist GayTV in all of its flavors.


My guess is the over/under for Trump jokes in the first episode is around 3.5, so, he'll get all in a huff over that regardless.
 
2017-09-12 09:53:58 AM  

TheManofPA: Time for Admiral Baby?


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It's Doogie Howser, filtered through a Magical Autist trope.
 
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