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(The New York Times)   When President Trump identified the opioid crisis as "a serious problem the likes of which we have never had" he forgot to add "not that I'm going to do anything about it. I'm just saying"   ( nytimes.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Drug addiction, State of emergency, Mr. Trump, Federal Emergency Management Agency, opioid crisis, President of the United States, Opioid, Emergency management  
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2017-09-11 08:54:14 PM  
Donnie Two Scoops believes his words literally do magic.

He routinely says things like his tax plan is drafted and everyone will love it.  Our nuclear weapons need to upgraded and, viola!, they are upgraded.  And so on.

He's already solved opiods.  Fake news just won't give him credit.
 
2017-09-11 08:57:20 PM  
He just reacts to shiat he sees on TV as if he's a Monday Morning Quarterback. Never mind he's the actual Quarterback.
 
2017-09-11 09:03:37 PM  
He probably thinks it's a pizza topping.
 
2017-09-11 11:59:11 PM  
While the president's opioid commission, led by Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, has urged him to move swiftly

Holy shiat, Trump finally gave Christie a job?? When did that happen?


trying to determine how best to move forward amid warnings from deficit hawks within the administration about the potential costs.

Um, you guys know NOT dealing with this is gonna cost us a lot more in the long run, right? I mean, unless the counter-plan is "Let them all die".
 
2017-09-12 12:01:40 AM  
I think Jeff Sessions should crack a pot smoker's head in.
That oughta do it.
 
2017-09-12 12:01:51 AM  
"The opioid crisis in America is terrible - I mean, the stuff they've been sedating me with just makes me so tired, you know?"
 
2017-09-12 12:02:29 AM  

TsarTom: I think Jeff Sessions should crack a pot smoker's head in.


And feast on the goo inside?
 
2017-09-12 12:03:07 AM  
I'm just waiting for the newest generation of cruddy afterschool specials and propaganda films concerning this new drug problem.
 
2017-09-12 12:05:05 AM  
Didn't everyone assume as much?
 
2017-09-12 12:05:24 AM  
He was never going to do anything.  Republicans are never going to do anything either.

They simply don't care.  They probably see it as a culling of the herd.
 
2017-09-12 12:05:26 AM  

fusillade762: While the president's opioid commission, led by Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, has urged him to move swiftly

Holy shiat, Trump finally gave Christie a job?? When did that happen?


trying to determine how best to move forward amid warnings from deficit hawks within the administration about the potential costs.

Um, you guys know NOT dealing with this is gonna cost us a lot more in the long run, right? I mean, unless the counter-plan is "Let them all die".


It's gonna cost us (the taxpayers, and the victims of opioid addiction and their families) a lot more, but it's not gonna personally cost Trump and Congress a damn thing.
 
2017-09-12 12:06:58 AM  
Of course he's not going to do anything heroin's a huge racket. Why do you think we have soldiers in the poppy fields of Afghanistan? They're sending it all back here.
 
2017-09-12 12:07:11 AM  

Glitchwerks: He was never going to do anything.  Republicans are never going to do anything either.

They simply don't care.  They probably see it as a culling of the herd.


One way to reduce dependency on Obama Care.
They'll lose a lot of their base though
 
2017-09-12 12:15:50 AM  
Why would he do anything about an epidemic that is filling for-profit prisons to the gills and beyond? He is making America great again, for jackbooted fascist thugs that is, not for you and me.

/ask yourself how many white nationalists work the prison industry
 
2017-09-12 12:18:07 AM  

fusillade762: While the president's opioid commission, led by Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, has urged him to move swiftly

Holy shiat, Trump finally gave Christie a job?? When did that happen?


trying to determine how best to move forward amid warnings from deficit hawks within the administration about the potential costs.

Um, you guys know NOT dealing with this is gonna cost us a lot more in the long run, right? I mean, unless the counter-plan is "Let them all die".


Even if the plan is let them all die, it will still cost more to society than finding an effective way to deal with it.
 
2017-09-12 12:21:28 AM  
Have they tried telling them to just say "no"?
 
2017-09-12 12:22:13 AM  

KodosZardoz: I'm just waiting for the newest generation of cruddy afterschool specials and propaganda films concerning this new drug problem.


Time to update
img.fark.net
 
2017-09-12 12:23:47 AM  
I have to admit that I'm having a difficult time motivating myself to care much about this issue. The same demographic that demonized blacks, imprisoned them by the millions, and brutalized their neighborhoods under the banner of the misguided war on drugs suddenly finds itself struggling with its own addiction crisis, yet they persistently elect politicians who couldn't care less about people like them. How the fark do we even begin to try to help people like that? And why should we?
 
2017-09-12 12:24:06 AM  
Putin isn't distributing carfentanil from his chemical agent stockpile anymore, so there's that.
 
2017-09-12 12:24:12 AM  
If you want to know how Trump will deal with a subject, just remember that everything to Trump is about Trump.
 
2017-09-12 12:30:53 AM  
I don't see Republicans meaningfully doing anything, ever, except tax cuts and military spending. They'll ruin some regulations. Try to solve problems? I don't thing it's even a question of will. I don't think they have any idea how to do anything productive.
 
2017-09-12 12:33:18 AM  
Dammit Kushner, you had ONE job!

Well, that plus peace in the Middle East and a bunch of other shiat that I forget.
 
2017-09-12 12:34:22 AM  
It's funny how he "projects", as the clinicians call it. He is a problem the likes of which we've never seen either.
 
2017-09-12 12:35:04 AM  

fusillade762: I mean, unless the counter-plan is "Let them all die".


That is always the plan.
 
2017-09-12 12:38:37 AM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: I have to admit that I'm having a difficult time motivating myself to care much about this issue. The same demographic that demonized blacks, imprisoned them by the millions, and brutalized their neighborhoods under the banner of the misguided war on drugs suddenly finds itself struggling with its own addiction crisis, yet they persistently elect politicians who couldn't care less about people like them. How the fark do we even begin to try to help people like that? And why should we?


I don't care, as long as it leads in a paradigm shift and we try a new approach.  Once the problem is solved, we can talk about how messed up it was that we couldn't come together and solve it until it became a problem for a certain demographic.  For now, let's work on solving the problem for all demographics.
 
2017-09-12 12:38:54 AM  

TsarTom: KodosZardoz: I'm just waiting for the newest generation of cruddy afterschool specials and propaganda films concerning this new drug problem.

Time to update
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https://www.scholastic.com/teachers/books/dinky-hocker-shoots-smack-b​y​-m-e-kerr/
 
2017-09-12 12:40:39 AM  
Wait, we have a new President? I thought Obama made himself Dictator for Life?
 
2017-09-12 12:45:49 AM  

Glitchwerks: He was never going to do anything.  Republicans are never going to do anything either.

They simply don't care.  They probably see it as a culling of the herd.


Well, in fairness, I would say the reason they'll do nothing is because they've drank their own Kool-Aid on small government/free market ideology. I think they believe that everything will workout in the long run if they remain pure to their ideas, even if it means some people die in the short term.
 
2017-09-12 12:52:11 AM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: I have to admit that I'm having a difficult time motivating myself to care much about this issue. The same demographic that demonized blacks, imprisoned them by the millions, and brutalized their neighborhoods under the banner of the misguided war on drugs suddenly finds itself struggling with its own addiction crisis, yet they persistently elect politicians who couldn't care less about people like them. How the fark do we even begin to try to help people like that? And why should we?


Drug addiction is so horrible that it's one of those things I wouldn't wish on my enemy.

If it helps you, it costs the economy a huge amount of money.

And the media overstates just how much of a red state problem this is - mostly because it's so bad in several rural states, notably West Virginia.
 
2017-09-12 12:55:34 AM  
The purest irony is that this problem is sweeping through Trump territory more than any other demographic.

By ignoring it, they are killing their own support. If they were to address it, it would win favor in their base and beyond.
 
2017-09-12 12:55:55 AM  
It's pretty obvious. Trump had been constipated for nine days, that's what the 'crisis' was.
 
2017-09-12 12:59:29 AM  

NewportBarGuy: He probably thinks it's a pizza topping.


Avoid the Poid?
 
2017-09-12 01:01:29 AM  

HighOnCraic: The Dog Ate My Homework: I have to admit that I'm having a difficult time motivating myself to care much about this issue. The same demographic that demonized blacks, imprisoned them by the millions, and brutalized their neighborhoods under the banner of the misguided war on drugs suddenly finds itself struggling with its own addiction crisis, yet they persistently elect politicians who couldn't care less about people like them. How the fark do we even begin to try to help people like that? And why should we?

I don't care, as long as it leads in a paradigm shift and we try a new approach.  Once the problem is solved, we can talk about how messed up it was that we couldn't come together and solve it until it became a problem for a certain demographic.  For now, let's work on solving the problem for all demographics.


Preach
 
2017-09-12 01:03:25 AM  
Don't worry, Dolt 45 is going to do something. Specifically, he's going to try to slash Medicaid, which pays for most opioid addiction treatment in this country.
 
2017-09-12 01:05:37 AM  

thornhill: The Dog Ate My Homework: I have to admit that I'm having a difficult time motivating myself to care much about this issue. The same demographic that demonized blacks, imprisoned them by the millions, and brutalized their neighborhoods under the banner of the misguided war on drugs suddenly finds itself struggling with its own addiction crisis, yet they persistently elect politicians who couldn't care less about people like them. How the fark do we even begin to try to help people like that? And why should we?

Drug addiction is so horrible that it's one of those things I wouldn't wish on my enemy.

If it helps you, it costs the economy a huge amount of money.

And the media overstates just how much of a red state problem this is - mostly because it's so bad in several rural states, notably West Virginia.


I can only speak to a few states in the south, but the pills, heroin and meth are so bad in small towns and rural areas that you can't go anywhere without seeing farmed up people.  I have a close family member who is a prosecutor; even if you decided to use both, there aren't enough beds in jail and treatment combined to take just the ones they've arrested.
 
2017-09-12 01:07:06 AM  
The opioid problem is partially driven by the failures of the drug war, and short of changing how they address it moving forward its only going to get worse.
 
2017-09-12 01:17:43 AM  
Trump not doing anything is always implied.
 
2017-09-12 01:25:26 AM  

NewportBarGuy: He probably thinks it's a pizza topping.


No, Opioids are a subsection of "The Andy Griffith Show" cosplayers.
 
2017-09-12 01:33:45 AM  

TsarTom: KodosZardoz: I'm just waiting for the newest generation of cruddy afterschool specials and propaganda films concerning this new drug problem.

Time to update
[img.fark.net image 425x297]


Jesus. It's like I'm 14 again.
 
2017-09-12 01:35:10 AM  

BMulligan: TsarTom: KodosZardoz: I'm just waiting for the newest generation of cruddy afterschool specials and propaganda films concerning this new drug problem.

Time to update
[img.fark.net image 425x297]

Jesus. It's like I'm 14 again.


Except ABC would have been channel 2. Channel 6 was NBC.
 
2017-09-12 01:39:40 AM  

Naido: thornhill: The Dog Ate My Homework: I have to admit that I'm having a difficult time motivating myself to care much about this issue. The same demographic that demonized blacks, imprisoned them by the millions, and brutalized their neighborhoods under the banner of the misguided war on drugs suddenly finds itself struggling with its own addiction crisis, yet they persistently elect politicians who couldn't care less about people like them. How the fark do we even begin to try to help people like that? And why should we?

Drug addiction is so horrible that it's one of those things I wouldn't wish on my enemy.

If it helps you, it costs the economy a huge amount of money.

And the media overstates just how much of a red state problem this is - mostly because it's so bad in several rural states, notably West Virginia.

I can only speak to a few states in the south, but the pills, heroin and meth are so bad in small towns and rural areas that you can't go anywhere without seeing farmed up people.  I have a close family member who is a prosecutor; even if you decided to use both, there aren't enough beds in jail and treatment combined to take just the ones they've arrested.


From what I've read, it's pretty bad in areas with state and local restrictions on the sale of alcohol.  It's almost as if there might be a connection...
 
2017-09-12 01:39:47 AM  

KodosZardoz: I'm just waiting for the newest generation of cruddy afterschool specials and propaganda films concerning this new drug problem.


At least this time they'd be demonizing something that actually deserves to be demonized.  It's a shame the government wasted all its credibility demonizing marijuana.  They cried wolf about something harmless and now no one wants to listen to warnings about legitimately bad substances like meth and opioids.
 
2017-09-12 01:42:31 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: KodosZardoz: I'm just waiting for the newest generation of cruddy afterschool specials and propaganda films concerning this new drug problem.

At least this time they'd be demonizing something that actually deserves to be demonized.  It's a shame the government wasted all its credibility demonizing marijuana.  They cried wolf about something harmless and now no one wants to listen to warnings about legitimately bad substances like meth and opioids.


My friend Becky would disagree with you...
 
2017-09-12 01:46:53 AM  

HighOnCraic: HMS_Blinkin: KodosZardoz: I'm just waiting for the newest generation of cruddy afterschool specials and propaganda films concerning this new drug problem.

At least this time they'd be demonizing something that actually deserves to be demonized.  It's a shame the government wasted all its credibility demonizing marijuana.  They cried wolf about something harmless and now no one wants to listen to warnings about legitimately bad substances like meth and opioids.

My friend Becky would disagree with you...


I knew Becky.  I hate to speak ill of the dead, but she had it coming.  When you're huffing that many pots, you're bound to asphyxiate.  People's lungs just can't hold that many pots inside of them without clogging up.

Marijuana is harmless unless you inhale a few cubic feet of it.  And that's what Becky was doing.  I wish it hadn't happened like that, but I hope that at least a few people will learn from her mistakes.
 
2017-09-12 02:16:05 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: HighOnCraic: HMS_Blinkin: KodosZardoz: I'm just waiting for the newest generation of cruddy afterschool specials and propaganda films concerning this new drug problem.

At least this time they'd be demonizing something that actually deserves to be demonized.  It's a shame the government wasted all its credibility demonizing marijuana.  They cried wolf about something harmless and now no one wants to listen to warnings about legitimately bad substances like meth and opioids.

My friend Becky would disagree with you...

I knew Becky.  I hate to speak ill of the dead, but she had it coming.  When you're huffing that many pots, you're bound to asphyxiate.  People's lungs just can't hold that many pots inside of them without clogging up.

Marijuana is harmless unless you inhale a few cubic feet of it.  And that's what Becky was doing.  I wish it hadn't happened like that, but I hope that at least a few people will learn from her mistakes.


I'm pretty sure she injected it.
 
2017-09-12 02:18:52 AM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: I have to admit that I'm having a difficult time motivating myself to care much about this issue. The same demographic that demonized blacks, imprisoned them by the millions, and brutalized their neighborhoods under the banner of the misguided war on drugs suddenly finds itself struggling with its own addiction crisis, yet they persistently elect politicians who couldn't care less about people like them. How the fark do we even begin to try to help people like that? And why should we?


Are you under the impression that only white republicans get addicted to opioids?

My head is full of fark. I seriously can't even
 
2017-09-12 02:31:53 AM  

Charletron: The Dog Ate My Homework: I have to admit that I'm having a difficult time motivating myself to care much about this issue. The same demographic that demonized blacks, imprisoned them by the millions, and brutalized their neighborhoods under the banner of the misguided war on drugs suddenly finds itself struggling with its own addiction crisis, yet they persistently elect politicians who couldn't care less about people like them. How the fark do we even begin to try to help people like that? And why should we?

Are you under the impression that only white republicans get addicted to opioids?

My head is full of fark. I seriously can't even


How the hell did you get that out of their post?
 
2017-09-12 02:53:56 AM  

megarian: Charletron: The Dog Ate My Homework: I have to admit that I'm having a difficult time motivating myself to care much about this issue. The same demographic that demonized blacks, imprisoned them by the millions, and brutalized their neighborhoods under the banner of the misguided war on drugs suddenly finds itself struggling with its own addiction crisis, yet they persistently elect politicians who couldn't care less about people like them. How the fark do we even begin to try to help people like that? And why should we?

Are you under the impression that only white republicans get addicted to opioids?

My head is full of fark. I seriously can't even

How the hell did you get that out of their post?


Well a "demographic that demonized blacks" etc probably refers to white people, and much of the post seems to back that up. The last bit about "electing politicians that couldn't care less about them" probably refers to Trump voters considering TFA. Hence, white republicans.

Come come now old boy do try to keep up.
 
2017-09-12 02:59:25 AM  

Charletron: megarian: Charletron: The Dog Ate My Homework: I have to admit that I'm having a difficult time motivating myself to care much about this issue. The same demographic that demonized blacks, imprisoned them by the millions, and brutalized their neighborhoods under the banner of the misguided war on drugs suddenly finds itself struggling with its own addiction crisis, yet they persistently elect politicians who couldn't care less about people like them. How the fark do we even begin to try to help people like that? And why should we?

Are you under the impression that only white republicans get addicted to opioids?

My head is full of fark. I seriously can't even

How the hell did you get that out of their post?

Well a "demographic that demonized blacks" etc probably refers to white people, and much of the post seems to back that up. The last bit about "electing politicians that couldn't care less about them" probably refers to Trump voters considering TFA. Hence, white republicans.

Come come now old boy do try to keep up.


It seems like they were referring to Republicans. Their drug policies that they support have been at best regressive and at worst harmful.

I also think the race thing is referring to crack. Crack is a bigger issue legally than cocaine. The only difference between crack and coxaine is users (at the time is was a racial issue....still is) and baking soda.

I believe the point was that Republicans only started to care about this when it impacts their world and people they view as worthy of help.

But it's 3 am and they could have been talking about unicorns for all I remember.
 
2017-09-12 03:09:26 AM  

Glitchwerks: He was never going to do anything.  Republicans are never going to do anything either.

They simply don't care.  They probably see it as a culling of the herd.


Hey, don't sell them short, a lot of them have serious investments in authoritarian overpolicing and lucrative school-to-for-profit-prison-pipeline, and this wave of marijuana legalization threatens the hell out of that. The availability of medical pot has been correlated with a drop in opioid deaths of around 25%... other than putting a bottle of Narcan in every pocket, I don't think there's a more cost-effective improvement that a government anti-drug program has ever shown.

Those raking in the big fat profits from the status quo are not going to go quietly into the night. They will try and do something. Even if it's to try and resurrect the worst parts of the failed drug war like Sessions and Christie want to.
 
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