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(Planet F1)   Robert Kubica, step right up. You're the latest target of the weekly JV hate mail   ( planetf1.com) divider line
    More: Dumbass, severe arm injuries, Renault F1, public relations thing, Jacques Villeneuve, Formula One, BMW Sauber, potential comeback, Scuderia Ferrari  
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2017-09-12 01:27:25 AM  
Sorry, Jacques, but nobody's buying your whine out of those sour grapes.  Veering Vitaly the Rudderless Russian outqualified Kubica only twice.  Don't try and use that as your rationalization for hating the guy who took your seat because he was faster.
 
2017-09-12 03:14:47 AM  
While it's true Kubica is unlikely to win a word title now, he's shown in the testing he's done that's he's comfortably the equal of most of the people that are making up the numbers in F1 right now, and that's after only a few hours in the car.

Williams would be an interesting one, would that mean that Massa finally gets to retire like he tried to last year?

The other big F1 rumour mill story right now is that we're about to get closure on who gets what engines next year. Looks like McClaren swap to Renault, Toro Rosso swap to Honda, and to sweeten the deal for Renault they get to take Carlos Sainz to (most likely) replace Palmer.

In the short term this hurts Red Bull, they'll very likely have Alonso running on the same pace as them next season now, but they're thinking longer term. They've felt screwed because they don't have a dedicated engine supplier like their main rivals, this would give them the option to switch their main team to Honda if Honda ever sort themselves out. All it affects now is Toro Rosso, which is a team that Red Bull have never been too bothered about the results of as they're just a way for them to gauge driver talent from their academy pool.
 
2017-09-12 05:32:27 AM  

Cyrene Valantion: Williams would be an interesting one, would that mean that Massa finally gets to retire like he tried to last year?


Did Massa want to retire, though, or did he just not initially have a seat?

BoringSB: I know a Polish* chap with the surname Kubica. Claimed he was a cousin of Robert. I suspect he was just saying it for the bants, however, because he does enjoy a good wind up. Said he had lots of BMW Sauber merchandise, promised to give me a bunnet or something. Never happened.

* I say Polish, but he did not like being called Polish; preferred Silesian, Silesia being a region that has parts that have been traded around Germany, Poland and Czechoslovakia/Czechia over the years.
 
2017-09-12 05:56:58 AM  
IMHO he felt it was time to retire.

Had a great retirement as well.
 
2017-09-12 08:38:29 AM  

Cyrene Valantion: While it's true Kubica is unlikely to win a word title now, he's shown in the testing he's done that's he's comfortably the equal of most of the people that are making up the numbers in F1 right now, and that's after only a few hours in the car.


Time in testing means less than nothing at all.  You don't know what engines modes anyone is running, you don't know what fuel levels anyone is running, you don't know how hard anyone is pushing.  The Hungary test was basically just a big publicity event, to give rookies and Kubica some time in seats and to generate some buzz.

I don't like to say it, because Kubica was one hell of a driver, and should have done better but for his accident, but this isn't about him as a driver, it's about him as a news story generating eyeballs and a year's worth of feel-good buzz for the sport.  I can think of at least 5 drivers who would be just as fast as Kubica in the car and be a better long-term investment in the team and the sport as the whole, but who don't have a fanbase of raging nostalgia to generate news items.
 
2017-09-12 08:58:14 AM  
Can't say I disagree. I'm probably guilty of wanting him to be back cause I liked him and thought it was terrible that he essentially missed his shot just as it started to look like he might be about to step up.

But you're right in that this is about good publicity for a sport that is, let's be honest, in need of some good PR right now.
 
2017-09-12 09:14:51 AM  
Justin Verlander does hate mail now?
Wow, I guess he really doesn't like it in Houston.
 
2017-09-12 09:51:52 AM  

iron de havilland: Cyrene Valantion: Williams would be an interesting one, would that mean that Massa finally gets to retire like he tried to last year?

Did Massa want to retire, though, or did he just not initially have a seat?


Yeah, my feeling was that Williams wanted to bring in Stroll, and there was no way they were going to let Bottas go, so Phil, be a good chap and take a retirement for the team, stout fellow and all that. Then Rosberg snapquit.

/ And it's looking like Massa may have to take one for the team next year
 
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