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2017-09-10 05:11:05 PM  
Except, by law, the police are not allowed to release the information. The headline is a fishing expedition.

FTFA: NH1.com said that Claremont Police Chief Mark Chase refused to comment on the case, but said the department is investigating the incident, which took place on Aug. 28. He said that because the perpetrators are juveniles, he is prevented from discussing the case publicly.
 
2017-09-10 05:16:22 PM  
Yes, they do

/and also punished for doing a profoundly stupid thing
//and then be left to the rest of their lives
 
2017-09-10 05:20:31 PM  
Charge as adults. Attempted murder. 14 year old knows better.
 
2017-09-10 05:25:58 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Yes, they do

/and also punished for doing a profoundly stupid thing
//and then be left to the rest of their lives


What they did was not done outta stupidity; It was done with malice. They were not joking around. They meant to cause harm to that boy.

These teenagers should have their pictures taken and released to the press along with the names. They did a serious farking thing here. I can tell you this: they will never again do such a thing if that were to happen. The shame would be too much for them.
 
2017-09-10 05:26:00 PM  
Southpark republicans
 
2017-09-10 05:28:14 PM  

cman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Yes, they do

/and also punished for doing a profoundly stupid thing
//and then be left to the rest of their lives

What they did was not done outta stupidity; It was done with malice. They were not joking around. They meant to cause harm to that boy.

These teenagers should have their pictures taken and released to the press along with the names. They did a serious farking thing here. I can tell you this: they will never again do such a thing if that were to happen. The shame would be too much for them.


Can we try them before we string 'em up, or you just wanna fetch a rope?
 
2017-09-10 05:33:32 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: cman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Yes, they do

/and also punished for doing a profoundly stupid thing
//and then be left to the rest of their lives

What they did was not done outta stupidity; It was done with malice. They were not joking around. They meant to cause harm to that boy.

These teenagers should have their pictures taken and released to the press along with the names. They did a serious farking thing here. I can tell you this: they will never again do such a thing if that were to happen. The shame would be too much for them.

Can we try them before we string 'em up, or you just wanna fetch a rope?


Absolutely they should have their day in court. However we should show them the same respect and dignity afforded to Lionel Tate.
 
2017-09-10 05:36:29 PM  
Evil is as evil does.

I say  if found guilty, send them to something like a Haitian or Nigerian reformatory for a few years, until they are 18 or 21. They'll have to learn how to get along with other people who are not white.  Don't allow them the ability to segregate themselves.
 
2017-09-10 05:37:43 PM  

cman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: cman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Yes, they do

/and also punished for doing a profoundly stupid thing
//and then be left to the rest of their lives

What they did was not done outta stupidity; It was done with malice. They were not joking around. They meant to cause harm to that boy.

These teenagers should have their pictures taken and released to the press along with the names. They did a serious farking thing here. I can tell you this: they will never again do such a thing if that were to happen. The shame would be too much for them.

Can we try them before we string 'em up, or you just wanna fetch a rope?

Absolutely they should have their day in court. However we should show them the same respect and dignity afforded to Lionel Tate.


If they're found guilty of a malicious and racist act, I'd agree

/I'm not going to support dialing up the hate level until the evidence is reviewed, though
//Despite appearances, our justice system is still based upon the assumption of innocence
 
2017-09-10 05:37:47 PM  
Yes they do. And they need to be remanded to the proper custody until it can be determined if they will be charged as adults...
 
2017-09-10 05:40:07 PM  
I am not going to get pissed off at the police for following normal guidelines and not releasing the names of alleged juvenile assailants.

I will raise holy hell though if the DA doesn't charge them with attempted murder.
 
2017-09-10 05:58:24 PM  

Loose_Cannon: Except, by law, the police are not allowed to release the information. The headline is a fishing expedition.


TFA does raise an interesting point though.

In defending the rule not to name publicly juvenile arrestees, he describes the teenaged attackers as "little children".

Now imagine if the pack of teenage attackers had been black, and ask yourself honestly if you believe he would have infantilized them like that.
 
2017-09-10 06:02:36 PM  

gilgigamesh: Loose_Cannon: Except, by law, the police are not allowed to release the information. The headline is a fishing expedition.

TFA does raise an interesting point though.

In defending the rule not to name publicly juvenile arrestees, he describes the teenaged attackers as "little children".

Now imagine if the pack of teenage attackers had been black, and ask yourself honestly if you believe he would have infantilized them like that.


That makes me wonder if one of the assailants is related to him.
 
2017-09-10 06:08:40 PM  

gilgigamesh: Loose_Cannon: Except, by law, the police are not allowed to release the information. The headline is a fishing expedition.

TFA does raise an interesting point though.

In defending the rule not to name publicly juvenile arrestees, he describes the teenaged attackers as "little children".

Now imagine if the pack of teenage attackers had been black, and ask yourself honestly if you believe he would have infantilized them like that.


Black teenagers are treated like thugs if they're victims of police shootings.

White teenagers are treated like children if they're perpetrators of lynchings.
 
2017-09-10 06:11:50 PM  
I think due process is necessary and ultimately keeping their names private until said process has run its course is the right action.

The problem isn't this reaction. It's how completely different black youth are treated by law enforcement and media reports. It's why BLM is right and frankly completely necessary. Because there's no guarantee that black teens are going to be treated with a fraction of the even-handedness and propriety by the police or the public when they're part of a remotely similar incident, or even if they're the victims of one.
 
2017-09-10 06:54:53 PM  

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Charge as adults. Attempted murder. 14 year old knows better.


This would be the answer if the 14 year old was black.
 
2017-09-10 07:21:19 PM  

Arachnophobe: gilgigamesh: Loose_Cannon: Except, by law, the police are not allowed to release the information. The headline is a fishing expedition.

TFA does raise an interesting point though.

In defending the rule not to name publicly juvenile arrestees, he describes the teenaged attackers as "little children".

Now imagine if the pack of teenage attackers had been black, and ask yourself honestly if you believe he would have infantilized them like that.

That makes me wonder if one of the assailants is related to him.


Yep.  Or has kids that are best buds with the perps, and usually is with them.  Next, we'll be hearing that boys will be boys, all come from good homes, no real harm done,
 
2017-09-10 07:36:38 PM  

Loose_Cannon: Except, by law, the police are not allowed to release the information. The headline is a fishing expedition.

FTFA: NH1.com said that Claremont Police Chief Mark Chase refused to comment on the case, but said the department is investigating the incident, which took place on Aug. 28. He said that because the perpetrators are juveniles, he is prevented from discussing the case publicly.


Yeah I mean the kids are White so they are just kids not like if they were Black, then we would be seeing their mugshots and the conservatives would be searching social media to prove what thugs they are.
 
2017-09-10 07:38:16 PM  
Loose Cannon aren't you one of those Trayvon Martin was a thug and got what he deserved Farkers?
 
2017-09-10 07:49:11 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: cman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Yes, they do

/and also punished for doing a profoundly stupid thing
//and then be left to the rest of their lives

What they did was not done outta stupidity; It was done with malice. They were not joking around. They meant to cause harm to that boy.

These teenagers should have their pictures taken and released to the press along with the names. They did a serious farking thing here. I can tell you this: they will never again do such a thing if that were to happen. The shame would be too much for them.

Can we try them before we string 'em up, or you just wanna fetch a rope?


He said they should be tried as adults, and when adults are tried they are identified.
 
2017-09-10 07:50:55 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Despite appearances, our justice system is still based upon the assumption of innocence


You sound White and Rich.
 
2017-09-10 07:53:56 PM  

spongeboob: MaudlinMutantMollusk: cman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Yes, they do

/and also punished for doing a profoundly stupid thing
//and then be left to the rest of their lives

What they did was not done outta stupidity; It was done with malice. They were not joking around. They meant to cause harm to that boy.

These teenagers should have their pictures taken and released to the press along with the names. They did a serious farking thing here. I can tell you this: they will never again do such a thing if that were to happen. The shame would be too much for them.

Can we try them before we string 'em up, or you just wanna fetch a rope?

He said they should be tried as adults, and when adults are tried they are identified.


Can't we look at the evidence BEFORE we make a determination of whether they should be charged as adults?

/FFS, I didn't say they should be subjected to a severe finger wagging and no supper
//I guess not rushing to judgment is a bad thing
 
2017-09-10 07:54:32 PM  

spongeboob: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Despite appearances, our justice system is still based upon the assumption of innocence

You sound White and Rich.


Holy f*ck. Seriously?
 
2017-09-10 08:01:12 PM  
Are Southern Poverty Law Center Links verboten?
 
2017-09-10 08:04:30 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: spongeboob: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Despite appearances, our justice system is still based upon the assumption of innocence

You sound White and Rich.

Holy f*ck. Seriously?


Yes if you were a minority and/or poor you would know you are guilty to proven innocent

https://m.fark.com/comments/9725514?from_page=politics#new
 
2017-09-10 08:06:55 PM  
Unbelievable
 
2017-09-10 08:09:29 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: spongeboob: MaudlinMutantMollusk: cman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Yes, they do

/and also punished for doing a profoundly stupid thing
//and then be left to the rest of their lives

What they did was not done outta stupidity; It was done with malice. They were not joking around. They meant to cause harm to that boy.

These teenagers should have their pictures taken and released to the press along with the names. They did a serious farking thing here. I can tell you this: they will never again do such a thing if that were to happen. The shame would be too much for them.

Can we try them before we string 'em up, or you just wanna fetch a rope?

He said they should be tried as adults, and when adults are tried they are identified.

Can't we look at the evidence BEFORE we make a determination of whether they should be charged as adults?

/FFS, I didn't say they should be subjected to a severe finger wagging and no supper
//I guess not rushing to judgment is a bad thing


Sorry with the history of Whites skating for lynching Blacks this investigation/trial needs to open to the public.
 
2017-09-10 08:12:12 PM  

spongeboob: MaudlinMutantMollusk: spongeboob: MaudlinMutantMollusk: cman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Yes, they do

/and also punished for doing a profoundly stupid thing
//and then be left to the rest of their lives

What they did was not done outta stupidity; It was done with malice. They were not joking around. They meant to cause harm to that boy.

These teenagers should have their pictures taken and released to the press along with the names. They did a serious farking thing here. I can tell you this: they will never again do such a thing if that were to happen. The shame would be too much for them.

Can we try them before we string 'em up, or you just wanna fetch a rope?

He said they should be tried as adults, and when adults are tried they are identified.

Can't we look at the evidence BEFORE we make a determination of whether they should be charged as adults?

/FFS, I didn't say they should be subjected to a severe finger wagging and no supper
//I guess not rushing to judgment is a bad thing

Sorry with the history of Whites skating for lynching Blacks this investigation/trial needs to open to the public.


I'm guilty of the unforgivable crime of being white

/No further discussion is required
 
2017-09-10 08:25:40 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: spongeboob: MaudlinMutantMollusk: spongeboob: MaudlinMutantMollusk: cman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Yes, they do

/and also punished for doing a profoundly stupid thing
//and then be left to the rest of their lives

What they did was not done outta stupidity; It was done with malice. They were not joking around. They meant to cause harm to that boy.

These teenagers should have their pictures taken and released to the press along with the names. They did a serious farking thing here. I can tell you this: they will never again do such a thing if that were to happen. The shame would be too much for them.

Can we try them before we string 'em up, or you just wanna fetch a rope?

He said they should be tried as adults, and when adults are tried they are identified.

Can't we look at the evidence BEFORE we make a determination of whether they should be charged as adults?

/FFS, I didn't say they should be subjected to a severe finger wagging and no supper
//I guess not rushing to judgment is a bad thing

Sorry with the history of Whites skating for lynching Blacks this investigation/trial needs to open to the public.

I'm guilty of the unforgivable crime of being white

/No further discussion is required


So going to skip the part where I said poor people know what it is like to be presumed guilty and act like I said being White is a get out of jail free card?
 
2017-09-10 08:34:19 PM  

spongeboob: MaudlinMutantMollusk: spongeboob: MaudlinMutantMollusk: spongeboob: MaudlinMutantMollusk: cman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Yes, they do

/and also punished for doing a profoundly stupid thing
//and then be left to the rest of their lives

What they did was not done outta stupidity; It was done with malice. They were not joking around. They meant to cause harm to that boy.

These teenagers should have their pictures taken and released to the press along with the names. They did a serious farking thing here. I can tell you this: they will never again do such a thing if that were to happen. The shame would be too much for them.

Can we try them before we string 'em up, or you just wanna fetch a rope?

He said they should be tried as adults, and when adults are tried they are identified.

Can't we look at the evidence BEFORE we make a determination of whether they should be charged as adults?

/FFS, I didn't say they should be subjected to a severe finger wagging and no supper
//I guess not rushing to judgment is a bad thing

Sorry with the history of Whites skating for lynching Blacks this investigation/trial needs to open to the public.

I'm guilty of the unforgivable crime of being white

/No further discussion is required

So going to skip the part where I said poor people know what it is like to be presumed guilty and act like I said being White is a get out of jail free card?


You use words meant to shut down debate and you're surprised when it works?

/I suppose when I was homeless a few years ago I was just slumming
//Us white folk are funny like that
 
2017-09-10 08:40:13 PM  
I might add that this attitude that minors should automatically be charged as adults and their names made public is precisely WHY they need protection, and I would hope for the same no matter what they were suspected of or what race they were
 
2017-09-10 08:51:15 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I might add that this attitude that minors should automatically be charged as adults and their names made public is precisely WHY they need protection, and I would hope for the same no matter what they were suspected of or what race they were


But it does matter what race they are

African-American youth make up 17% of the overall youth population, 30% of those arrested and 62% of the youth prosecuted in the adult criminal system.
 
2017-09-10 08:57:50 PM  

spongeboob: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I might add that this attitude that minors should automatically be charged as adults and their names made public is precisely WHY they need protection, and I would hope for the same no matter what they were suspected of or what race they were

But it does matter what race they are

African-American youth make up 17% of the overall youth population, 30% of those arrested and 62% of the youth prosecuted in the adult criminal system.


I never claimed the law was applied equally. I said I hoped that it would be. I'm far too old to think we're living in a perfect world, and I know perfectly well there are many problems and inequalities
 
2017-09-10 09:11:54 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I never claimed the law was applied equally. I said I hoped that it would be. I'm far too old to think we're living in a perfect world, and I know perfectly well there are many problems and inequalities


Which is why I want these guys tried as adults, this trial needs to be in public.

If this kids/teens/guys chose your own word are only placed on probation and the reasoning is not made public it will
A. Embolden White Supremacist
B. Reenforce mistrust of the justice system to people of color.
C. Possibly lead to rioting or hate crimes in a tit for tat payback.

Sorry that these juveniles can't be treated as typical juveniles, but let's just call it White Man's Burden.


You didn't ask but I'm White FWIW
 
2017-09-10 09:16:23 PM  

spongeboob: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I never claimed the law was applied equally. I said I hoped that it would be. I'm far too old to think we're living in a perfect world, and I know perfectly well there are many problems and inequalities

Which is why I want these guys tried as adults, this trial needs to be in public.

If this kids/teens/guys chose your own word are only placed on probation and the reasoning is not made public it will
A. Embolden White Supremacist
B. Reenforce mistrust of the justice system to people of color.
C. Possibly lead to rioting or hate crimes in a tit for tat payback.

Sorry that these juveniles can't be treated as typical juveniles, but let's just call it White Man's Burden.


You didn't ask but I'm White FWIW


Until the evidence is examined and the scope of the charges determined, the identities of the teenagers should be protected
 
2017-09-10 09:25:05 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: spongeboob: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I never claimed the law was applied equally. I said I hoped that it would be. I'm far too old to think we're living in a perfect world, and I know perfectly well there are many problems and inequalities

Which is why I want these guys tried as adults, this trial needs to be in public.

If this kids/teens/guys chose your own word are only placed on probation and the reasoning is not made public it will
A. Embolden White Supremacist
B. Reenforce mistrust of the justice system to people of color.
C. Possibly lead to rioting or hate crimes in a tit for tat payback.

Sorry that these juveniles can't be treated as typical juveniles, but let's just call it White Man's Burden.


You didn't ask but I'm White FWIW

Until the evidence is examined and the scope of the charges determined, the identities of the teenagers should be protected


The problem is the chief already stepped on his dick with the "these people need to be protected" and calling them little kids.

How hard is it to say I can't comment due to the ages of the accused, we are investigating and will present all the facts to the DA who will decide on what charges to file?
 
2017-09-10 09:39:10 PM  
"Bring Back The Death Penalty. Bring Back Our Police!"

/sarc
 
2017-09-10 11:27:36 PM  
Sounds like the kid's grandma knows who these assholes are and no law prevents HER from naming and shaming on FB Twitter, to the local news, etc
 
2017-09-10 11:46:08 PM  
These little shiat teens sound white.
 
2017-09-11 12:04:51 AM  
So what's the preferred way to identify yourself as an ally to minorities if a race war starts?
 
2017-09-11 12:29:15 AM  
"Very fine people," I'm sure.

/s
 
2017-09-11 01:00:10 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: //Despite appearances, our justice system is still based upon the assumption of innocence


Tell that to the guests at Gitmo.
 
2017-09-11 01:06:27 AM  
This was an 8 year old kid being lynched by a 14 year old.

And you people are arguing how black or white they were.

Can't we call just come together and harness our hatred towards teenagers?
 
2017-09-11 02:35:50 AM  

fusillade762: So what's the preferred way to identify yourself as an ally to minorities if a race war starts?


Not with a god damned safety pin in the lapel.
 
2017-09-11 02:43:24 AM  
Um, if anyone is interested, the kid survived the attack.
 
2017-09-11 02:46:20 AM  
It was a freakin hate crime, and the feds should be involved.
 
2017-09-11 05:51:36 AM  

real_headhoncho: Can't we call just come together and harness our hatred towards teenagers?


They're not all bad.

I mean there's that one. You know the one.
 
2017-09-11 06:26:49 AM  
From another article:

"Chase said in a juvenile investigation 15 years ago, he would simply respond, "no comment" and that would be the end of it. Unfortunately now with social media, the public is looking to blast someone, often without knowing the details of the case, or basing their conclusion on misinformation."

Chief Chase must read Fark.
 
2017-09-11 06:36:58 AM  
a young child

Fark no.  Age of consent in NH is 16.  The "kids" were 14.  2 years away from legally being able to make babbies, 4 years away from being a legal adult, and 7 years away from public drinking.  If these kids haven't learned that it's wrong to lynch someone, then their parents' farked up big time or their farking sociopaths.  You learn that shiat when you're in elementary school.

A "mistake" or "accident" means something that you don't intend to happen.  These kids went out of their way to make this happen.
 
2017-09-11 07:36:16 AM  

holdmybones: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Charge as adults. Attempted murder. 14 year old knows better.

This would be the answer if the 14 year old was black.


The attackers couldn't be black - the black kid from NH was the victim, so unless it was a suicide attempt, we've already used up New Hampshire's supply of black kids.
 
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