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(Washington Post)   Other than not trusting Trump, what should republicans have learned?   ( washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2017-09-10 04:45:37 PM  
Not to be Republican
 
2017-09-10 04:50:03 PM  
Morally, you can't be ethical AND a Republican. There's no intersection on those Venn Diagrams. The democrats are iffy enough, and they are the ones somewhat pushing for healthcare for all and feeding hungry children. So really anyone with real morals should long ago have bailed on the political parties.

But what they've actually probably learned is that there's a lot of racists and their vote is basically a stone cold lock if you've got the balls to pander to them, which even if you do still nets you the standard Republican base at least for the nonce. I imagine that will change over time, but it's still true at the moment.

They've also probably learned that gerrymandering and voter suppression? Good times for red ties!
 
2017-09-10 04:50:58 PM  
Don't get involved in a land war in Asia
 
2017-09-10 04:52:22 PM  

daphne: Not to be Republican


If they were smart enough to know not to be republican, they wouldn't be republican to begin with.
 
2017-09-10 04:56:47 PM  

Ambivalence: daphne: Not to be Republican

If they were smart enough to know not to be republican, they wouldn't be republican to begin with.


Indeed, I was hoping for the power of change

/dashed
 
2017-09-10 05:00:20 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Don't get involved in a land war in Asia


Have they tried to match wits with a Sicilian when death was on the line?
 
2017-09-10 05:04:20 PM  

Orion5k: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Don't get involved in a land war in Asia

Have they tried to match wits with a Sicilian when death was on the line?


Wait for it
 
2017-09-10 05:09:10 PM  
s2.quickmeme.com
 
2017-09-10 05:54:15 PM  
They should have learned that their man in the White House is a Liberal and was always going to make an alliance with the Democrats.
 
2017-09-10 05:57:43 PM  
Next time, maybe look to choose "competent" over "popular"...
 
2017-09-10 06:00:07 PM  
Saying "freedom" over and over doesn't make anything freedomy, nor does it make bad policy work as advertised.
 
2017-09-10 06:05:20 PM  
I am sticking to my rule:  A conservative is a person with an idea that has not worked. And has not worked, and has not worked, and has not worked.

Reminds me of the maxim that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting to get different results. Mind you, to be fair, that is essentially how Democrats campaign, so Republicans have that going for the feckers. In fact, campaigning is the only thing that Trump has down pat so it is the only thing he wants to do. Like an idiot who thinks he gives good massages, but really gives shiattty massages. We all know one of those, eh?
 
2017-09-10 06:13:26 PM  

Lucky LaRue: They should have learned that their man in the White House is a Liberal and was always going to make an alliance with the Democrats.


citation added.
 
2017-09-10 06:13:29 PM  
Motherfarker, they haven't even learned that.
 
2017-09-10 06:16:07 PM  

blastoh: Lucky LaRue: They should have learned that their man in the White House is a Liberal and was always going to make an alliance with the Democrats.

citation added.


Seriously. And yet I'm not allowed to call posters dumb bastards.
 
2017-09-10 06:24:31 PM  

Bloody William: Seriously. And yet I'm not allowed to call posters dumb bastards.


You dumb bastard

*runs*
 
2017-09-10 06:26:54 PM  
I think the list is rather a long one.  Here's what it looks like so far-
static.boredpanda.com

/ We can at least hope they might learn the major themes
// Like choosing a  demagogue for your party's nominee, one without any experience in elected office, whose ethics and mental health are questionable and whose only loyalty is to himself, is a very bad plan, and
/// when you lie down with dogs (like Russian kleptocrats, Neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, Christian Dominionists and Mercenaries) you get up with fleas, for example.
 
2017-09-10 06:27:02 PM  
Good campaigners are not necessarily good candidates.  And vice versa.
 
2017-09-10 06:39:15 PM  
A consumer-based economy doesn't work if people can't, you know, consume.
 
2017-09-10 06:51:54 PM  

Lucky LaRue: They should have learned that their man in the White House is a Liberal and was always going to make an alliance with the Democrats.


I don't think he is a liberal or a conservative. I don't think he even has a political philosophy. He just likes seeing his face on TV.
 
2017-09-10 06:54:51 PM  
 
2017-09-10 06:59:15 PM  

daphne: Not to be Republican


Or, very least, not to be a Reagan Republican.

img.fark.net

img.fark.net
 
2017-09-10 07:12:17 PM  
Science
Ethics
Economics
Geography
There's lots of things they should have learned.
 
2017-09-10 07:19:11 PM  
wipe front to back
 
2017-09-10 07:47:39 PM  
if they don't want to raise the debt ceiling they shouldn't vote for more debt-creating tax plans

It's almost as if they don't really care about the debt.
 
2017-09-10 08:46:44 PM  
Nothing. Republicans don't value education of any kind, even from experience. They are doomed to repeat their mistakes over and over.
 
2017-09-10 08:52:08 PM  
68.media.tumblr.com
 
2017-09-10 08:53:03 PM  
Not to lynch 8 year old kids?

Fark you admins for ignoring that. You are now all culpable in my eyes.
 
2017-09-10 08:54:29 PM  
I like Ike.
 
2017-09-10 08:54:55 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Wait for it


...pation?
 
2017-09-10 08:55:15 PM  
No American should trust Trump... not Democrats, Republicans, Independents... no one.  The man only cares about his own interests.
 
2017-09-10 08:55:35 PM  
This hasn't been about policy for them for quite some time.  They just want someone to be belligerent to liberals.
 
2017-09-10 08:57:02 PM  
I hope they learned it's easy to obstruct and hard to govern.

I'm not hopeful, but I hope.
 
2017-09-10 08:57:13 PM  
img.fark.net
They learned that we leopards have bottomless stomachs.
 
2017-09-10 08:57:30 PM  

doglover: Morally, you can't be ethical AND a Republican. There's no intersection on those Venn Diagrams. The democrats are iffy enough, and they are the ones somewhat pushing for healthcare for all and feeding hungry children. So really anyone with real morals should long ago have bailed on the political parties.

But what they've actually probably learned is that there's a lot of racists and their vote is basically a stone cold lock if you've got the balls to pander to them, which even if you do still nets you the standard Republican base at least for the nonce. I imagine that will change over time, but it's still true at the moment.

They've also probably learned that gerrymandering and voter suppression? Good times for red ties!


The overall lesson is "cheat to win" and "dig down HARDER" because if you aren't trying to be more villainous than the next repgunantcan over, you're gonna get your ass primaried, and playing by the rules and decorum will only ensure you lose on merit.

Republicans delenda est.  Kill it with fire.
 
2017-09-10 08:58:50 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-09-10 08:58:56 PM  
Don't stick your party funding in the crazy.
 
2017-09-10 08:59:12 PM  
Have they actually learned to not trust Trump? Learning is not exactly something a conservative is familiar with.
 
2017-09-10 09:04:17 PM  

Sin'sHero: Have they actually learned to not trust Trump? Learning is not exactly something a conservative is familiar with.


They never trusted him but they thought they could manipulate and control him. I do think they are learning that does not work.
 
2017-09-10 09:05:07 PM  
There are lots of things they SHOULD have learned. Sadly, they learned none of them. To the contrary, they seem to have come away with precisely the opposite conclusions that they should have reached.
 
2017-09-10 09:08:57 PM  
Not to be evil dicks.
 
2017-09-10 09:15:55 PM  
- Getting in bed with just anybody to win isn't worth it if it means you can't actually use what you've won.

- Integrity matters even if it's inconvenient.  Play the long game politically, not election to election.

- The rich may give you great donations but you are just a pawn to them, keep that in mind.  Don't be a coward.

- Your base is dying.  I mean literally.  If you want to be a politician in a decade you better start listening to younger crowds.
 
2017-09-10 09:22:19 PM  

nijika: - Getting in bed with just anybody to win isn't worth it if it means you can't actually use what you've won.

- Integrity matters even if it's inconvenient.  Play the long game politically, not election to election.

- The rich may give you great donations but you are just a pawn to them, keep that in mind.  Don't be a coward.

- Your base is dying.  I mean literally.  If you want to be a politician in a decade you better start listening to younger crowds.


That last one though. The alt-right isn't particularly old.  I think we err on the side of complacency by just assuming that the republican base is going to die off when their beliefs are being passed down slightly re-packaged.

I can only speak from experience, especially growing up in kentucky, but that's essentially the libertarian party. Same social Darwinism, different justification.
 
2017-09-10 09:25:00 PM  
FTA: We wind up spending far more than the budget says because we have emergencies -- regularly occurring ones...

If it occurs regularly, then it oughta be included in the budget... I don't believe that Republicans are alone in sticking their heads in the sand in this regard.
 
2017-09-10 09:42:13 PM  

Bier Hier: FTA: We wind up spending far more than the budget says because we have emergencies -- regularly occurring ones...

If it occurs regularly, then it oughta be included in the budget... I don't believe that Republicans are alone in sticking their heads in the sand in this regard.


 Aww.  I took away your smart vote with your BSAB last line.
Want too tell us about the good people on both sides?
 
2017-09-10 09:56:09 PM  

Witty_Retort: Bier Hier: FTA: We wind up spending far more than the budget says because we have emergencies -- regularly occurring ones...

If it occurs regularly, then it oughta be included in the budget... I don't believe that Republicans are alone in sticking their heads in the sand in this regard.

 Aww.  I took away your smart vote with your BSAB last line.
Want too tell us about the good people on both sides?


Nah, nobody here is interested in the good people on the other side.
 
2017-09-10 09:56:47 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-09-10 09:58:19 PM  

RulerOfNone: doglover: Morally, you can't be ethical AND a Republican. There's no intersection on those Venn Diagrams. The democrats are iffy enough, and they are the ones somewhat pushing for healthcare for all and feeding hungry children. So really anyone with real morals should long ago have bailed on the political parties.

But what they've actually probably learned is that there's a lot of racists and their vote is basically a stone cold lock if you've got the balls to pander to them, which even if you do still nets you the standard Republican base at least for the nonce. I imagine that will change over time, but it's still true at the moment.

They've also probably learned that gerrymandering and voter suppression? Good times for red ties!

The overall lesson is "cheat to win" and "dig down HARDER" because if you aren't trying to be more villainous than the next repgunantcan over, you're gonna get your ass primaried, and playing by the rules and decorum will only ensure you lose on merit.

Republicans delenda est.  Kill it with fire.


Pretty sure those are all things they already know. "The fewer people vote, the better it is for Republicans" has been well known.  Hell, in Montana a representative argued just that for the Montana special election to elect bodyslam bro. They wanted a mail in ballot to save money, but mail in ballot election would mean more Democrats were likely to vote. Guess what they did.
 
2017-09-10 09:59:05 PM  

Lucky LaRue: They should have learned that their man in the White House is a Liberal and was always going to make an alliance with the Democrats.


I find it funny that the worst thing the republicans can call a person is a Democrat.
 
2017-09-10 10:13:07 PM  
It's time to take a Donald Trump and go to sleep.
 
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